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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Adoption is an Alternative Act (Debating) on: September 01, 2014, 11:14:41 am
Aye
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Clean Energy Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: September 01, 2014, 11:05:30 am
Aye
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: August 31, 2014, 09:23:27 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDi1OXJn4Vw

I can't believe this. Horrendous to watch.

Impossible to watch as someone lodged a copyright claim on it.

I can not be the only one to appreciate the irony of Ernest complaining about the zealous implementation of copyright law.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Ukrainian Technical, Economical and Military Aid (Debating) on: August 31, 2014, 09:14:55 am
I condemn the TNF-esque provision to relocate Tatars in a second expulsion. Crimea is Tartar land. The provision is unconscionable.

Allowing people who want to move the option is not the same thing as expelling them. Confusing the two is unconscionable.*


*Albeit not as much as abducting Adolf Eichmann
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Federal Marriage Amendment (Debating) on: August 31, 2014, 09:09:56 am
As I said when the northeast was originally considering group marriages I oppose them, but I'm not convinced this is the senate's job.

A Federal law requiring Regions to make changes to their marriage laws would also be unconstitutional under Article I, Section 6, Clause 7.

It almost certainly wouldn't. Or rather, it might, depending on which way the court was feeling on the morning it decided the case.

As I've said before, the constitution is so poorly worded that the senate can make a case for any law it passes as falling under it's powers, and this is no different.

Perhaps more interestingly, could you not make an argument that there can't be variation between regions on marriage because the point of the senate is to establish uniform ones?

Thankfully JCL is here to solve this dilemma with the catch all solution of devolving the power to the regions, in a similar way to the moderate heroes who proclaim their solution to any problem to be leaving it to the states (I personally feel that legalising murder is morally repugnant but it should be left up to the states Smiley )
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Adoption is an Alternative Act (Debating) on: August 29, 2014, 08:06:59 am
Offering another amendment:

Quote from: Amendment offered
Adoption is an Alternative Act:

The Infant Abandonment Act shall be amended as follows:

1.
i. Any woman who gives birth may hand over their infant to a worker at a medical facility, police station, or fire station, without publicly revealing their identity and without financial or legal penalty up to four weeks after birth.
ii. Furthermore, any woman who gives birth may have the possibility to leave her child anonymously in "baby hatches" to be established in at least one public hospital per 100'000 people. These shall be warm spots under a glass panel, equipped with an alarm going off once the glass panel is closed, so that the child is immediately sought after.
2. Said infants shall be taken to the closest public Hospital, which will take care of the child for a period of four weeks to allow for the mother to recover the child without any legal repercussions, after which the child is immediately declared adoptable and sent to an adoption agency or institution.
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i HospitalsRegional governments will store the personal data of the mother for a period of eighteen years, unless the mother explicitly wishes to have the data kept secret removed after the four-week period has passed.
ii The mother may choose to reveal her personal data at any point.
iii In the case of a mother who wishes to keep her data secret the information shall be revealed 1 year after her death.
4. Personal data that has not been removed kept secret shall be available upon request to the previously adopted child after reaching the age of sixteen.
5. Any Hospital or adoption agency or institution shown to be in violation of this act shall be liable to a maximum fine of $50,000.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: August 28, 2014, 12:13:35 pm
What are you suggesting, bore? That Northern Irish Catholics are an oppressed minority and that the territory should be given to Ireland against the will of the people? Isn't that, uh, undemocratic? And what do you mean by you "thought popular sovereignty would have been abandoned in 1860"? The principle of popular sovereignty is one of the foundations of democracy?  Are you saying the people of Northern Ireland should not have the right to self determination?

Not at all. Like almost all non Northern Irish people, I don't care about it's future political status. Whether Catholics are or are not persecuted there is irrelevant to what I'm saying.

GMB seems to be for unionism because a majority of Northern Ireland is unionist, which is bizarre, because that logic applied to other area leads to views he hates.

The popular sovereignty thing was a (possibly excessively) snarky reference to Douglas.

The problem is not him supporting Northern Ireland being a part of the UK at the moment, because that's what a majority support- everyone agrees on that. The problem is he supports a unionist Northern Ireland in the abstract, because a majority of Northern Ireland supports that at the moment.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Keaton House Polling: October 2014 Presidential on: August 28, 2014, 08:39:34 am
Probably the Fed/DR/TPP person.

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Political Matrix
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Flo   IDS   GA   Labor   0   09-Jan-15

lol
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: August 28, 2014, 08:25:45 am
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OTOH I'd be a Unionist in NI. If only there was a genuinely cross-confessional centre-left party in NI... Sad

SKIP

The majority of the population in Northern Ireland appears to support continued union with the UK. If one supports the idea of popular sovereignty, than unionism is the only correct option. Obviously, this does not justify the discrimination Catholics have suffered in Northern Ireland for several generations.

C/O bore

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The majority of the population in Alabama appears to support Jim Crow. If one supports the idea of popular sovereignty, than Jim Crow is the only correct option. Obviously, this does not justify the discrimination blacks have suffered in Alabama for several generations.

Erhm how is opinion regarding the political status of a certain area remotely comparable to support for racial segregation? Jim Crow by definition is discriminatory, Northern Ireland staying in the UK is not.

The point isn't that Jim Crow is the same as supporting unionism, they're obviously not.

The point is that your logic can apply equally well to Jim Crow as unionism, so is clearly a bad argument.

I'd have thought popular sovereignty would have been abandoned in 1860.

Unless you are opposed to the idea of democracy, however, the default assumption is that political questions will be settled by the popular will excepting when the popular will result in the abridgement of freedoms and liberties for a segment of the population (such as Jim Crow).

The idea that you should respect the opinions of a majority of a population is not the same thing as supporting those opinions just because a majority of people hold them. Your argument seems to be that you support unionism because, and only because, a majority of the northern irish population support it. That is an absurd, ignorant and bad position to hold, and you know this.

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The majority of the Democratic party appears to be pro choice. If one supports the idea of popular sovereignty, than, as I'm a democrat, being pro choice is the only correct option.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Demonstrations Act of 2014 (Voting on Motion to Table) on: August 28, 2014, 08:09:15 am
Aye
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Clean Energy Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 28, 2014, 08:07:16 am
I'd still like to hear just how much of atlasia's energy comes from coal before we pass this bill, but I suppose reinvesting the money in renewables means that this bill won't increase carbon emissions.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Possible Leave of absence (27/7- 2/8) on: August 28, 2014, 08:03:24 am
Scratch that, turns out I do have internet- though my activity will still be slightly more limited.
13  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Official 2014-15 Club Soccer/Football Discussion Thread on: August 27, 2014, 07:26:29 am
Celtic being thumped by both Warsaw and Maribor, as well as by Inverness last week, is both hilarious and well deserved.

Delia Smith is the new Paul le Guen.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: August 27, 2014, 07:22:53 am
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OTOH I'd be a Unionist in NI. If only there was a genuinely cross-confessional centre-left party in NI... Sad

SKIP

The majority of the population in Northern Ireland appears to support continued union with the UK. If one supports the idea of popular sovereignty, than unionism is the only correct option. Obviously, this does not justify the discrimination Catholics have suffered in Northern Ireland for several generations.

C/O bore

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The majority of the population in Alabama appears to support Jim Crow. If one supports the idea of popular sovereignty, than Jim Crow is the only correct option. Obviously, this does not justify the discrimination blacks have suffered in Alabama for several generations.

Erhm how is opinion regarding the political status of a certain area remotely comparable to support for racial segregation? Jim Crow by definition is discriminatory, Northern Ireland staying in the UK is not.

The point isn't that Jim Crow is the same as supporting unionism, they're obviously not.

The point is that your logic can apply equally well to Jim Crow as unionism, so is clearly a bad argument.

I'd have thought popular sovereignty would have been abandoned in 1860.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Demonstrations Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 27, 2014, 05:20:12 am
Motion to table
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Possible Leave of absence (27/7- 2/8) on: August 26, 2014, 06:50:19 pm
More than likely I'll have internet access, but if I don't I thought I'd post this.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: War Powers Amendment (Amendment at vote) on: August 26, 2014, 05:39:31 pm
Aye
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Repeal of the War Powers Resolution Act (Debating) on: August 26, 2014, 09:40:47 am
Aye
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Making what is "bad" not bad? on: August 26, 2014, 08:38:05 am
Ironically, this post is itself bad.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Demonstrations Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 26, 2014, 08:21:05 am
The gun nut argument that if they are made illegal only bad guys will have guns is mostly a bad argument, but it does have a ring of truth about it. Namely, certain laws only affect those who don't need to be affected, and I think this would have been true of this bill as well.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Clean Energy Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 26, 2014, 08:17:19 am
Averroes raised a good point in the previous energy thread about natural gas. Certainly in RL, increasing the percentage of natural gas plants decreases carbon emissions substantially. If things are different in atlasia then this bill is obviously worth supporting - but we need to know things are different.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Adoption is an Alternative Act (Debating) on: August 26, 2014, 08:13:36 am
The point is this bill would not constitute an increase in spending.

Also, 10 000 dollars is chump change to a hospital.

Finally, I'd like to see the information revealed on the mother's death or after 70 years not destroyed permanently.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Polnut for Senate HQ - Experience with Purpose - VICTORY PARTY!! on: August 25, 2014, 08:25:39 am
Well done Smiley
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senator Cynic: Did We Win?! on: August 25, 2014, 08:09:05 am
Congrats.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Deus for At-Large Senator (Go Vote!) on: August 25, 2014, 08:08:38 am
Congrats Smiley

Your election to the senate is well deserved, even though you're wrong on everything Tongue
 
I look forward to a controversial few months.
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