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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cabinet Reorganization Act of 2015 on: August 24, 2015, 07:18:42 am
Why specifically a senator? Every office in this game could theoretically cause a conflict of interest, not to mention everyone not in office has some sort of grudge or history with the game that would also create a conflict of interest.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Modern Health Education Act on: August 23, 2015, 03:38:42 pm
Isn't this one of those issues where we know it when we see it? We know fried food is not good for you, and salad is. But we also know that chips every so often is not harmful.

There is nothing wrong with a school having chips, say, once a week on a friday, while having other types of food on different days, in fact that should be applauded, and I think one blanket ban on anything below a certain amount would be a bad idea, because food is neither healthy nor unhealthy on its own, but becomes so based on how often it is had.

     What I am proposing actually lines up pretty well with what you are saying; that is, we can have less healthy food as long as we balance it out with more healthy food.

Well we'd need to clarify that the balancing exists over days and not just for a meal. So the average for a week, or even a term, is 30, but individual meals can be above or below that.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cabinet Reorganization Act of 2015 on: August 23, 2015, 03:37:32 pm
The Attorney General can be a senator at the moment though.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: August 2015 Federal Election - At-Large Senate on: August 23, 2015, 03:34:35 pm

AT-LARGE SENATE

[  ] Altsomn Stmarken (JoMCaR) of Maine
Federalist Party

[3] Cris of Kansas
Civic Renewal

[1] Evergreen of Maine
Northeast National Party

[2] Kalwejt of Ohio
Labor Party

[  ] NC Yankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party

[  ] Write-in:

[  ] None of the above
5  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Why is there such an overlap between the "scene" and evangelical Christianity? on: August 22, 2015, 09:11:19 am
Awful subcultures tend to have a large overlap even if it's not immediately obvious why. Like the scene and hipster christianity, or nazism and being a fan of animes.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cabinet Reorganization Act of 2015 on: August 21, 2015, 07:03:46 pm
This is fine by me. Is it necessary to clarify that you can be both a solicitor general and a senator, say?
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Modern Health Education Act on: August 21, 2015, 07:02:02 pm
Isn't this one of those issues where we know it when we see it? We know fried food is not good for you, and salad is. But we also know that chips every so often is not harmful.

There is nothing wrong with a school having chips, say, once a week on a friday, while having other types of food on different days, in fact that should be applauded, and I think one blanket ban on anything below a certain amount would be a bad idea, because food is neither healthy nor unhealthy on its own, but becomes so based on how often it is had.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Vice Presidential Election Amendment (Debating) on: August 21, 2015, 06:59:17 pm
The President doesn't really have much control over the VP at the moment, as in he can't fire them once they're in office, so I imagine that relationship between the two offices would be kept the same. But I'm not inclined to support this, because I think it's very important, as the job presently is, to keep the executive all on one side. If this went through the president would not only have no control over a successor, but the VP would mainly transform into an extra senator (as the tie breaking vote is the offices main official power) further weakening the separation of powers. If the system changes as Yankee alludes to then obviously this should be thought about more.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cabinet Reorganization Act of 2015 on: August 19, 2015, 02:20:05 pm
The way I look at it, we should only be tinkering with the cabinet now (what with the concon approaching) if it actually reduces the number of offices, which I don't think this would do.

Regarding the cabinet I've opened up applications for numerous vacancies and the only ones which have consistently (even now) received applications has been the RG. The SoFE has also been held for a very long time by homely, and he has done an excellent job. It seems to me that these are the least deserving posts to be merged or reduced. If we do want to do anything with them we should consider lifting the restriction on holding another office at the same time.

10  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Election Coverage on: August 16, 2015, 07:53:56 pm
I almost certainly will never vote tory again ( because I am, after all, scottish) but I think this first election is about creating a game that works not so much the policy, and I think the Conservatives (combined with whoever would be a coalition party) would have the best leadership team to make this thing work.

Leading on from that it's probably a mistake to assume that voting patterns are set in stone from this election, which hopefully means the next election will be just as if not more interesting.
11  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: 1st South American General Election - August 14th, 2015 on: August 16, 2015, 07:43:52 pm
Conservative
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cabinet Reorganization Act of 2015 on: August 15, 2015, 05:54:32 pm
If the president can remove the SoIA whenever he wants, and he also appoints them, doesn't it make sense that he should directly have the power to appoint a prosecutor?

It's also true that the president can dismiss the AG whenever he wants, so there isn't much difference between my proposal and the current situation, except mine would trim one permanent office.

OK, that's a fair point. Although I'm not sure whether President is more qualified to initiate a prosecution than a prospective Secretary of Home Affairs.

Here's an alternative proposal: abolish the Department of Justice and replace the AG with a non-cabinet rank of Solicitor General, whose job would be to initiate court cases and represent the government. Wiki duties (as well as overseeing the federal law enforcement, etc.) would be transferred to the SoIA.

What do you think?

Does non cabinet rank mean not voted on by the senate?
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Parliament election - 2016 on: August 15, 2015, 02:59:14 pm
Some of the largest swings in 2015 were found in seats that Labour held in 2011. The SNP's 'base' has shifted somewhat.

Maybe the SNP base has shifted (although I'm not so sure shifted is the right word, as it's more that they've added more supporters as opposed to lost some and gained some others), but I don't think larger swings in the 2011 labour seats show that.

Those seats, at westminster, tend to be areas where labour previously racked up huge majorities, so for the SNP to win them there had to be a massive swing, whereas in seats labour got less in a swing on the level of glasgow northeast would have led to banana republic level of SNP support, which just couldn't happen because while (current) support for the SNP and independence is fairly well distributed so is opposition.

14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Black mom is horrified with the confederate flag T-shirts on: August 14, 2015, 02:49:30 pm
You know what? I think we should ban all flags. Toss them all into the sea, as far as I'm concerned. Unless they're a cool flag with dragons on it.

Flags with dragons on them are nothing less than the sign of satan, imo.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Kids Shouldn't Die from Preventable Diseases... Act on: August 13, 2015, 08:07:43 pm

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Kids Shouldn't Die from Preventable Diseases Because of Stupid Yuppies and Religious Nuts Act of 2015

Henceforth, any and all funding transferred from the federal government to regional government for the express purpose of providing access to vaccination shall be transferred only on the condition that the region receiving the funds in question amend any and all laws governing vaccination exemptions for public school attendance providing for 'personal' or 'religious' reasons for exemption.
The amendments to regional laws should make clear that the only exceptions provided for should be those on medical grounds, where a doctor has certified that a specific mandatory vaccination would lead to serious negative physical and medical outcomes.


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16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cabinet Reorganization Act of 2015 on: August 13, 2015, 08:05:55 pm
If the president can remove the SoIA whenever he wants, and he also appoints them, doesn't it make sense that he should directly have the power to appoint a prosecutor?

It's also true that the president can dismiss the AG whenever he wants, so there isn't much difference between my proposal and the current situation, except mine would trim one permanent office.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cabinet Reorganization Act of 2015 on: August 13, 2015, 08:39:31 am
I think it makes sense to abolish the Attorney General, rather than combine it with the SoIA which has a very different remit, so you'll get people suited to one job but not the other and then whenever prosecutions are needed the President can just appoint a temporary prosecutor.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Protection of Atlasians from Arbitrary Forum Administration Act on: August 10, 2015, 04:41:08 pm

Quote from: Amendment offered

A Bill
To protect Atlasians from  the in-game consequences of being unfairly banned

Bill Title: This Bill shall be entitled the “Protection of Unfairly Banned Atlasians Act”.

Section 1. Definitions
1. Accidentally Banned - Any poster whose account was banned unintentionally as a result of trying to ban another poster.
2. Mistakenly Banned - Any poster whose account was banned under the incorrect belief that said person had committed a violation warranting such a ban.

Section 2. Registration
The following clause shall be inserted as clauses 4 and 5 of the Deregistration of Banned Members Act:
“4.  Any forum member shall have their registration immediately restored when a member of the Forum administration or moderator team announces that the ban was mistaken or accidental."

“5. The Registrar General, shall wait 72 hours, following the announcement by the forum administration, of a poster having been banned before removing said banned Atlasians from the rolls.”

Section 3: Offices
1. Any poster who was accidentally or mistakenly banned by the forum administration shall be immediately restored to the offices which they held, unless the restoration is subsequent to next regularly scheduled election to that office.

2. No appointments shall be made, nor special elections called for vacancies arising from the deregistration of a banned member until the Registrar General.

Section 4: Effectiveness
This bill shall go into effect immediately.

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19  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Socialist Party - August 2015 Convention on: August 10, 2015, 01:41:52 pm
It would not ban people who merely hold citizenship in our northern neighbour from holding office, Comrade General Secretary, but it would ban people who happen to hold office in our northern neighbour from also holding office here. We must protect the integrity of national institutions at this critical moment in our history.

Does the inverse hold? I'm interested in joining the party but I have no desire to hold an office here (at least until my term in atlasia ends)
20  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Sign-in Thread on: August 10, 2015, 01:36:41 pm
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21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A Modest Proposal on: August 10, 2015, 08:29:05 am
My thinking is that we can always add but we can't subtract (well we can but that's much less hassle)

We have to ask ourselves what the regions do, why it is we want them. The first thing is, it's not because the regions interact with each other because they don't, we could have 1 or 1080 but they still wouldn't interact, so that doesn't necessitate 3 or more. I think the answer is we want somewhere where new players can get a feeling for the game, we want there to be multiple legislatures with different cultures (there would be 3 under my proposal which I thin is enough) and we also want someone to interact with the federal government. I think 2 is enough for all of those things.

My view is we need to remove all the offices that we can while still preserving the essential features of the game (that is, the american style system) and two regions preserves those regions.

If there comes a point where the federal government and both regions are flourishing with competitive elections and active bodies we can easily add a region (which should be a lot easier than removing one because the establishment aren't hurt by it) or a few senate seats or a full time AG or whatever else. But I think we need to start from the very bottom to be able to get back to the top.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Improve Our Wiki Act of 2015 (Debating) on: August 10, 2015, 08:16:39 am
This bill does do precisely nothing, but I suppose that's better than something actively harmful, like setting up a legally binding wiki position.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Amendment to the Constitutions on: August 10, 2015, 08:12:46 am
I think people will see the simple majority vote as what it is, basically a vote on holding a concon now, and not as a technical change for one in the future, so I think it is safe to proceed.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Improve Our Wiki Act of 2015 (Debating) on: August 09, 2015, 06:54:19 am

Quote from: How Does This Look?
A Bill
To give the President greater resources and flexibility to bring the wiki up to date.

Bill Title: Improve Our Wiki Act of 2015

1. The President shall have the ability to select a "National Archivist" for the purpose of updating the wiki, including the statute page, main page, as well as all info on federal institutions.

2. This position shall not be fixed or permenent and shall serve as long as the President deems it necessary.

3. No confirmation shall be required, nor shall there by any restrictions placed on other officerholders from serving concurrently in this position.

VETO


It's not so much that I oppose this bill (I, too, like kittens and happiness) but this seems supremely pointless as a bill.

Why? This is just a tool to be used in case of wiki again sliding into a decline. It doesn't create any permanent post.

Well for one thing I think such a post would be very hard to fill, but the other thing is, as this bill is written, there is nothing stopping me creating that post without it.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: August 2015 Federal Special Election - At-large Senate on: August 08, 2015, 06:31:27 pm

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