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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Freedom Act (Debating) on: September 19, 2014, 08:31:09 am
Nay
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 19, 2014, 12:51:17 am
Firstly, why do you think it has that name? Second, they had a problem with getting some of the boxes to the counting centre: there was a crash on the road they were being brought on, delaying things by a couple of hours.

The Guardian website lists it as "Highland," in fairness.

I think the point is that it's hardly surprising that it's difficult and takes a long time to transport ballots around an area called highlands, due to, you know, the hills.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 18, 2014, 10:41:44 pm
BBC Scotland is better than BBC London.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Freedom Act (Debating) on: September 18, 2014, 02:52:16 pm
...I do hate capitalism. I want to see it destroyed.

Spoken like someone who hates capitalism.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 18, 2014, 01:21:18 pm
This is exciting. It must be strange for our Scottish members that half the forum is more emotionally invested in the outcome than they are, though.

How many Forum posters are actually from Scotland ?

afleitch, bore, ... ?

Yeah, me and afleitch are the only Scots on the forum.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 18, 2014, 01:16:12 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixville_Notch,_New_Hampshire
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Freedom Act (Debating) on: September 18, 2014, 08:55:39 am
I don't know why either of you are bothering. This won't pass and if it does, it's going to get vetoed. Why continue this charade?

This isn't a charade. I'm gonna ask you this.  Why should our labor policies universally be unbalanced so much in favor of the big labor unions and that management has no power for recourse? As I've said in the past, I'm a great-grandson of a steel union leader. I believe in some of what the unions have done towards the rights of the individual worker. However when big union, big labor, and government collude together, how can management hope to have due recourse to petition their grievances? Shouldn't an individual also be able to advocate on their own for a mutually beneficial contract. The current Atlasian arrangement is totally out of balance with regards to labor issues. As you know I'm more in favor of the Austrian Free Market view. The intent of this bill is to correct recent government overreach into economic matters. I know you and the president disagree but to dismiss the merits of my proposal without cause is unwise.

I think you've missed TNF's point. I could be (and am) totally convinced that atlasia would be better if we had an NHS, but I know that it wouldn't pass, so I'm not going to introduce it. You should do the same for your own views that simply won't pass the senate. Especially as you are completely unwilling to compromise.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum prediction thread on: September 18, 2014, 08:35:32 am
No 52.7
Yes 47.3

Turnout 93.2
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 18, 2014, 08:33:40 am
Just voted. There is going to be enormous turn out. There was a very steady stream of people at 2 o clock, so I can only imagine what it will be like at 6 or 7.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: TyriontheImperialist for Vice President (Questioning) on: September 17, 2014, 04:56:39 pm
Aye
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 17, 2014, 04:31:25 pm
Remarkable levels of activity today. I haven't seen anything even close to the level of political activity that's happening today. Almost every conversation I hear in the street today is about independence.

So today's Yes shares are 47, 48 and 49 - exactly the same average as yesterday's. Quite amazing, really.

Sorry if I asked this already.  But what time will the polls close? And will there be exit polling allowed?

10PM over here, 3AM (I think) over there. No exit polling.

It's 5PM Eastern Time, so you won't even have to have a late night in the US.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Caption Competition thread on: September 16, 2014, 05:04:14 pm
A bunch of tools..........


And some spades.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Voting on Amendment) on: September 16, 2014, 04:45:22 pm
This ABAC is not binding, correct? Is there a timespan on that process? ABAC approval to strike, for example, would not be acceptable to me.

Also, do we have laws that prohibit management from interfering in the voting and debating process leading to a strike? This is a major RL problem. Major. At least in the USA.

ABAC is just a conciliation service. It just provides a place for both sides to talk with each other and helps them to reach a settlement.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 03:38:59 pm
Aye
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What would be opebo's position on Scottish independence? on: September 16, 2014, 01:50:15 pm
Speaking as an actual scottish person, rest assured there is nothing, nothing, that interests me less than what opebo thinks about the referendum.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Energy for the Future Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 01:42:14 pm
Nay
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Voting on Amendment) on: September 16, 2014, 01:41:32 pm
Aye
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The GM Assistance/Keeping Things Moving Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 01:39:15 pm
I'm not sure I understand what section 4 is saying.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 07:34:37 am
Never mind then.

I think we're ready for a final vote.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 07:13:40 am
Why not make it so there is a general way of quickly repealing all useless laws and not just regulations?

What would you have in mind? Changing statute requires an act of the legislative branch.



I was thinking that people could propose any legislation passed by the senate for repeal in the same way as outlined for regulations. Although I'm to sure whether that would be legal. It would also have to be clear to senators that this was for repealing useless laws, not laws which are still in effect but have consequences people disagree with, though I think that's doable.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum IRC Channel, Thread 2 on: September 15, 2014, 02:39:01 pm
Get in.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: September 15, 2014, 10:42:40 am
Oh my God, is that chart real?

Behold
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Debating) on: September 15, 2014, 07:42:53 am
Proposing another amendment to follow through the implications of the last amendment on section 2, and to clarify the role of ACAS. I know many senators have a problem with the idea of the government intervening in private sector labor disputes, but this amendment makes clear that companies will only use ACAS if they want to.
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The Public Sector Strike Regulation Act

1. Henceforth, strikes (defined here as refusal to perform the task that the striker is employed to do) shall be prohibited on the part of all public employees, except when the following conditions are met:
 1a. A ballot must have been called by the union that represents said employees, who must be members of a recognised labor union.
 1b. No union member must find him or herself compelled to strike by the union in question.
 1c. Intended strike action must be announced to the relevant authorities within in a period of at least one week before the proposed date of the strike.
 1d. The above four conditions are to be deemed irrelevant with regards to the Army of the Republic of Atlasia, the Navy of the Republic of Atlasia, the Air Force of the Republic of Atlasia, the Marine Corps of the Republic of Atlasia, the Coast Guard of the Republic of Atlasia, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and doctors, nurses and other employees where striking would threaten the health and life of atlasian citizens. Strikes in these sectors will be prohibited under any circumstances.

2. Should any employee or group of employees break the law and partake in an illegal strike, then certain penalties, at the relevant departments discretion may be imposed upon them, as listed below.
 2a. Upon partaking in their first illegal strike (as defined in Section 1), the offender shall may be given a pay cut of 25% of their salary for a period of six months.
 2b. Upon partaking in their second illegal strike, the offender shall may be given a pay cut of 25% of their salary for a period of twelve months.
 2c. Upon partaking in their third illegal strike, the offender shall may be dismissed from their job, but will be permitted to re-apply for that job within one year. During that time, they shall may also be prohibited from applying for another job in public service.
 2d. Should an three-time offender be re-hired in public service, then another (fourth) act of participation in an illegal strike will may see the offender dismissed from their job, and given a life-time ban on working in public services.

3a.This bill will make provision for the establishment of the Atlasian Board of Arbitration and Conciliation (ABAC), a public service designed to help arbitrate industrial disputes in order to lessen the possibility of strike action.
3b. ABAC shall be an independent non departmental government body which shall help to arbitrate in industrial disputes, by mediating between the relevant departments, and by resolving industrial disputes before they lead to strikes
3c. ABAC shall also be a free public service open to all private sector companies who wish to use its services.



4,. This legislation shall take effect upon its passage.

24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: September 14, 2014, 06:51:00 pm
Why not make it so there is a general way of quickly repealing all useless laws and not just regulations?
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 14, 2014, 12:19:58 pm
Was question how well are they doing their jobs or do you like them?
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