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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Parliamentary by-elections, 2015-2020 on: February 24, 2017, 05:25:29 pm
Nice to see the left-wing commie biased BBC ignoring Copeland and focusing almost entirely on Nuttall going down in Stoke...oh wait, they are focusing on Copeland.

This is the correct angle, though. The Official Opposition to a second term government is completely unraveling and has just lost a seat they've held for 80 years on a massive swing. There is no bigger story.

2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Italy 1994! on: February 24, 2017, 03:56:52 pm
How did my grandfather's comune (Montefalcione, in Campania 2, which is mentioned above) vote, I hear you ask? Well, the answer is, as usual, overwhelmingly for moderate heroism (I say as usual because in 2013, for example, it gave 50% of the vote to Mario Monti)



(For anyone interested who doesn't already know in this level of detail, it is worth saying that, shockingly, italy has a world class election results website, available here: http://elezionistorico.interno.it/ )
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CPAC: Milo as keynote speaker on: February 18, 2017, 04:15:46 pm
It's impressive just how intellectually bankrupt the American Right is.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: February 2017 Federal Election on: February 17, 2017, 08:50:14 pm


PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF ATLASIA


[ 3 ] dfwlibertylover/Goldwater
Federalist Party



[ 1 ] Maxwell/smilo
Vermont Communist Party/Harambe is a Free Gorilla Party



[ 2 ] NeverAgain/Southern Gothic
Labor Party



[ 4 ] Winfield/Poirot
Independent



[  ] Write-in:______________________________
-__________________



[  ] None of the above



HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - NINE SEATS



[ 1 ] 1184AZ of Washington
Labor Party



[ 4 ] Cashew of California
Labor Party



[  ] Enduro of Pennsylvania
Federalist Party



[  ] lwp2004 of Connecticut
United Alternative



[ ] North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party



[ 2] OneJ_ of Mississippi
Labor Party



[ 3 ] Peebs of North Carolina
Labor Party



[ 6 ] Potus2036 of West Virginia
Federalist Party



[  ] SecureAmerica/Heisenberg of New Mexico
Federalist Party



[5  ] simossad of Minnesota
Labor Party



[  ] tedbessell of California
Federalist Party



[  ] Write-in:______________________________
-__________________



[  ] None of the above
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northern Voting Booth - February 2017 Regional Election + Referendums on: February 17, 2017, 08:42:12 pm
FOR CLASS I SENATE
ONE (1) Senator to be elected.

[1 ] R2D2/20RP12
Labor Party

[] Write-In: __________


FOR GOVERNOR
ONE (1) Governor to be elected.

[1] Mike Wells
Labor Party

[2] Kingpoleon
United Alternative


FOR ASSEMBLY
FIVE (5) Assemblymen to be elected

[6 ] Spark498
Federalist Party

[  5 ] JGibson
Democratic Party

[ 1  ] DrewMike87
Labor Party

[ 2 ] Lok1999
Labor Party

[3 ] CXSmith
Labor Party

[  4 ] Wolverine22
Labor Party

[ ] Write-In: __________

[ ] Write-In: __________


REGIONAL NAME CHANGE

Question: Should the name of the Northern Region be changed?

[   ] Yes

[X] No

If you voted "YES", please read the following passage and select a new name for the Northern Region, should the first question pass. If you voted "NO", you may still preference a new name for the region, should the first question pass.


NAME CHANGE SUGGESTIONS

In accordance with the Regional Name Act of 2017, the citizens of the Northern Region proposed a variety of names to replace "North" as the name of the region. These proposals were debated by the Assembly, and the following three (3) names were chosen. Ppreferentially vote for the name suggestions as you would for a group of candidates for office.

[   ] FRANKLIN

[   ] LINCOLN

[1] ATLANTIC UNION


CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS

Please read the following proposed amendments to the Northern Constitution thoroughly!

"EXECUTIVE TIEBREAKING" AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE ONE OF THE NORTHERN CONSTITUTION

Quote
AN AMENDMENT TO THE NORTHERN REGIONAL CONSTITUTION

I. Article I of the Northern Constitution shall be amended to include the following:

Quote
9. In the event of a tie in a legislative vote, the Governor shall have the power to break the tie.

[] AYE
[ X ] NAY


"VOTER INTEGRITY" AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE ONE OF THE NORTHERN CONSTITUTION

Quote
Voter Integrity Act

I. One must be a citizen in the North for ten days before becoming eligible to vote in the elections of that region.

[  X ] AYE
[] NAY
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Maxwell for President - Vermont Style Communism on: February 15, 2017, 06:16:31 pm
A ban on homeschooling? That's probably the stupidest idea I've ever heard suggested on this board.

Newbies are funny

Failed presidents who think veterans are newbies are funny.

I see the discredited alternative fact that I was a failed president is still doing the rounds.

Anyway I don't really know who you are, so I made the charitable assumption that you were a newbie because the alternative is that you've spent all your time in the game not paying attention.

In my day I've seen flame wars about legalising incest, jomcar and his split-before-it-was-a-film performance, classic conservative swearing under oath that he's never had sex with JCL, talleyrand going from 0 votes to a comfortable special election victories on a trump inspired campaign, every conceivable feud, every possible scandal, hundreds if not thousands half baked legislative proposals, some of which I probably voted for, and the career of Lebron Fitzgerald.

So yes I do find you describing a fairly conventional, if to you disagreeable, political opinion the stupidest thing you've seen on the board pretty funny.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Maxwell for President - Vermont Style Communism on: February 15, 2017, 12:07:04 pm
A ban on homeschooling? That's probably the stupidest idea I've ever heard suggested on this board.

Newbies are funny
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of billionaires on: February 12, 2017, 05:30:12 pm
Quote from: Thomas Aquinas
Now, according to the natural order instituted by divine providence, material goods are provided for the satisfaction of human needs. Therefore the division and appropriation of property, which proceeds from human law, must not hinder the satisfaction of man's necessity from such goods. Equally, whatever a man has in superabundance is owed, of natural right, to the poor for their sustenance. So Ambrosius says, and it is also to be found in the Decretum Gratiani: "The bread which you withhold belongs to the hungry; the clothing you shut away, to the naked; and the money you bury in the earth is the redemption and freedom of the penniless.
9  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is a person that hears God insane or really hearing it? on: February 12, 2017, 03:22:22 pm
Delusional is a better descriptor than insane. Insane is probably to found a cult or to deny that the square root of four is two because God told you something different, so to speak.

2 is a square root of 4 but the square root of 4 is not 2
You must be either an idiot or a mathematician (Is there really a difference?) to be that pedantic about someone referring to the principal square root as "the square root" instead of "a square root".

If you want to sacrifice rigour for something ghastly like usefulness then by all means do, but I have no desire to become an engineer.
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is a person that hears God insane or really hearing it? on: February 12, 2017, 07:33:35 am
Delusional is a better descriptor than insane. Insane is probably to found a cult or to deny that the square root of four is two because God told you something different, so to speak.

2 is a square root of 4 but the square root of 4 is not 2
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Trump/Hitler comparisons? on: February 07, 2017, 06:25:16 pm
There are occasions when they're appropriate (there is no better parallel to the way the White House is being run, with a multitude of factions who all hate each other, very little clear direction from on high and a leader who specifically wants a darwinian system of overlapping responsibilities than the Third Reich), and people of all sides need to drop the annoying tendency of lapel clutching at every comparison to anything as if the act of comparing is the same thing as equating. But mostly they're lazy and can be downright offensive as well.

But there is a wider point here. Historical comparison only works if the audience gets the history. It may well be that King Michael the Obscure of Belgium is the best comparison to Trump, but if no one has heard of him then comparing the two is rhetorically useless. A large part of the reason that everyone jumps for Hitler comparisons is the Second World War is one of the very few historical events that everyone has in common both through school and through films and TV. If you want a better standard of comparison then you need to teach better history.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pelosi: "We're capitalists, and that's just the way it is." on: February 05, 2017, 06:20:31 pm
Nancy is right.  Get over it.  We're not going back

Going back to what? Huh

Why is it always "forwards" and "backwards" with these people?

Going back to regressive, oppressive economic systems.  We're moving forward.

Why is one ahead of us and the other behind, is what I'm getting it. The metaphor doesn't make sense.

We must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinions of Tom Cotton on: January 28, 2017, 07:58:43 am
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In February 2015 Obama renominated Cassandra Butts, a former White House lawyer, to be United States Ambassador to the Bahamas. However, Butts' nomination was blocked by several Republican senators. First, Sen. Ted Cruz placed a blanket hold on all U.S. State Department nominees.[83] Then, Cotton specifically blocked the nominations of Butts and ambassador nominees to Sweden and Norway after the Secret Service had leaked private information about a fellow member of Congress, even though that issue was unrelated to those nominees.[83] Cotton eventually released his holds on the nominees to Sweden and Norway, but kept his hold on Butts' nomination.[83] Butts told New York Times columnist Frank Bruni that she had gone to see Cotton about his objections to her nomination, and Cotton explained to her that because he knew that the president and Butts were friends, it was a way to "inflict special pain on the president," Bruni wrote.[83] Cotton's spokeswoman did not dispute Butts' characterization.[83] Butts died on May 26, 2016, still awaiting a Senate vote.[83]

He's pretty clearly scum.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What if the Democrats moderated on abortion? on: January 20, 2017, 06:00:01 pm
That's exactly my point.  Abortion as an issue is far less politicised in Europe in large part because the laws are stricter than in America.

i don't think so.

otherwise the states who are able to regulate it wouldn't go waaaaaaay further than that limit.

imho it's more of a religious question.

Which states are you referring to here? American? European?

If I understand your position correctly, and I may not because it's not quite clear, your argument is that I'm wrong because Republicans push for far stronger anti abortion legislation than is operative in europe. But this is just my point. The Democratic Party is at this point, at the officeholding level, pretty much universally in favour of unrestricted abortion access. The Republican party is at this point, at the officeholding level, pretty much universally in favour of no access to abortion at all, save for maybe the usual 3 exceptions of rape, incest and life of the mother. The population as a whole are strongly in favour of legal abortion, but also strongly in favour of restrictions based on the stage of the pregnancy. In other words, the legal situation in most of europe. Legal abortion, but not in every case.

If the legal situation in the US, nationwide, was like that of, say, France, then I find it difficult to believe that either Republicans or Democrats would be able to make quite as much hay out of the issue, given that any change, either towards or away from liberalisation, would go against a fairly large majority of the electorate.

As to your repeated vague allusions to religion, I take your point that abortion as an issue in the US is very strongly correlated to religious belief. But then so are things like gun control, and support for raising or lowering income taxes. There is no necessary link between atheism and being pro choice, especially when it comes to late stage pregnancies, where abortion is actually a live political issue. And if you're right, it would raise the question as to why there has been no real push towards further liberalisation in rapidly secularising europe.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What if the Democrats moderated on abortion? on: January 20, 2017, 06:56:06 am
The triumphalist social liberals in this thread invoking Europe as a pro abortion nirvana really need to look at the actual abortion laws in Europe.

Basically it comes up far less as a political issue in large part because the laws are a messy compromise which satisfy neither activist pro choicers or activist pro lifers (although because of when the majority of abortions occur the arrangement obviously favours pro choicers)




usually, afaik, there are restrictions regarding the timeline......but there is no major party in western europe which is able to make a winning topic out of outlawing abortions.

Err...

That's exactly my point.  Abortion as an issue is far less politicised in Europe in large part because the laws are stricter than in America.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What if the Democrats moderated on abortion? on: January 18, 2017, 05:51:08 pm
The triumphalist social liberals in this thread invoking Europe as a pro abortion nirvana really need to look at the actual abortion laws in Europe.

Basically it comes up far less as a political issue in large part because the laws are a messy compromise which satisfy neither activist pro choicers or activist pro lifers (although because of when the majority of abortions occur the arrangement obviously favours pro choicers)


17  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: So I got Ticket from a Speed Camera... on: January 17, 2017, 05:03:37 pm
http://www.theonion.com/article/legal-dream-team-of-coworkers-counsel-woman-on-str-36424
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MA-08: Brianna Wu running against Lynch in 2018 Democratic primary on: January 10, 2017, 09:41:58 am
Funny, I get far more triggered by Lynch's district than her. In fact I'd say he represents one of the worst places in the country that voted for Hillary by far.

I have absolutely no idea what your reasoning is here. None whatsoever.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: If Marine Le Pen loses the 2017 French election, how will it affect Trump? on: January 04, 2017, 08:34:48 pm
I'm not convinced Trump even knows who Marine Le Pen is.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Counties that swung anti-Obama in 2008 and pro-HRC in 2016 on: January 02, 2017, 12:24:11 pm
Given the rate of Atlanta's growth, I wouldn't be surprised if Dawson swung to McCain as a rural county then swung to Clinton (though not by very much, it should be pointed out, Trump increased his vote on romney by 1000, whereas clinton increased on Obama by 200 raw votes) as an exurban Atlanta county. Habersham seems like a dead cat bounce, although I guess that could be just becoming exurban as well, given the sheer size of the atlanta metro area.
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinions of Heinz-Christian Strache on: December 31, 2016, 01:06:35 pm
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: France vs. Russia on: December 23, 2016, 04:18:34 pm
Russia, because it has the best literature in the world and, even more importantly, the best jokes.
23  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Why are the "WOW" counties in Wisconsin conservative? on: December 17, 2016, 02:57:34 pm
In 2016,

Clinton carried the city of Milwaukee: 188,687:45,422 (81%:19%, of two way vote)
She carried the remainder of the county: 100,134:80,676 (55%:45%)
Trump carried Waukesha County: 79,224:142,543 (36%:64%), Ozaukee (40%:60%), and Washington (29%:71%).

So it is simply a pattern of the city of Milwaukee being extremely leftwing, and the remainder of the county moderating that somewhat (the city had about 56% of the county vote).

Were Milwaukee more centrally located, rather than on the shoreline the metropolitan area would not be as bipolar.


I don't see how this follows at all.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: December 2016 House Election on: December 11, 2016, 08:32:11 pm
1. NeverAgain
2. Southern Gothic
3. Cashew
4. Siren
5. Peebs
6. Goldwater
25  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What religion are you in your heart and in your head? on: December 11, 2016, 10:12:55 am
Fiscally conservative in my head, socially conservative in my heart
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