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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: Today at 07:30:52 pm
Aye, principally for cost issues
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Recall Amendment (Debating) on: Today at 07:25:55 pm
Quote from: Amendment offered
Recall Amendment

1. All elected offices are subject to revocation. Once 1/2 of the term of office to which an official has been elected has elapsed, a number of voters representing at least 25 100 percent of the registered voters in the affected constituency may petition for the calling of a referendum to revoke that official's mandate.
2. When a number of voters equal to or greater than the number of those who elected the official vote in favor of the recall, provided that a number of voters equal to or greater than 25100% of the total number of registered voters vote in the recall referendum, the official's mandate shall be deemed revoked and immediate action shall be taken to fill the vacancy as provided by law.
3. Recall elections shall begin between 0000 Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the penultimate Friday of the election month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the penultimate Friday itself, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning, following the certification of signatures on recall petitions by the Secretary of Federal Elections.
4. The Secretary of Federal Elections shall administer all recall elections, regardless of whether or not the official in question was elected by a ballot administered or opened by the Secretary of Federal Elections.

Proposed by: Windjammer

Senators have 36 hours to object to this amendment
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Collective Bargaining Modernization Act of 2014 (Voting) on: Today at 10:39:19 am
Aye

4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: Today at 10:37:17 am
Oh crap, sorry about that.

I completely misread that, that vote is suspended and I'll open a vote on the hostile one:

Quote from: Amendment Offerred
3. The right of all persons to speak whichever language they choose shall be respected by the Republic of Atlasia, but knowledge of English shall be encouraged in order to promote greater discourse and communication amongst the diverse populations of Atlasia. The Republic shall establish English as a working language (that is, it shall establish English as the language of political debate and discussion within the halls of the federal government) and shall print all official documents in English. It shall, however, also recognize Spanish, Chinese languages, Tagalog (and other Phillippine languages), French, Vietnamese, German, Korean, Russian, Arabic, Hebrew, Italian, Portugese, French Creole, Polish, and Hindi as co-equal languages and shall print all official documents in these languages as well. Language groups are eligible for co-equal status if there are at least 500,000 speakers of said language as documented by the census bureau and shall be granted it as such by the Department of Internal Affairs.

Senators a vote is now open on this amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sanity in Foreign Policy Act (Voting on Amendment) on: Today at 10:34:46 am
From the rules:
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3. When debate on legislation has halted for longer than 36 hours and the legislation has been on the floor for more than 72 hours, any Senator may call for a vote on said legislation. The Speaker shall open a vote if no other Senator objects within 24 hours of the call for a vote.

If a final vote is still wanted this would need to be done:
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5. At any time after the first 72 hours of debate, any Senator may motion for cloture. Upon the concurrence of two-thirds of the Senate, the Senate shall end debate and the Speaker slot shall open a vote on the legislation.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: Today at 09:33:38 am
In the future Patronising Better Together Woman will be seen as a prophet.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Motion for Christmas Recess on: Today at 08:04:19 am
If people want to continue I'm happy to do so, and if they don't I'm happy to do that as well.

8  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Atheists' Ten Commandments Revealed. on: Today at 07:56:26 am
Much like with Eazy-E's last verse in 'Appetite for Destruction', not all of these are actually commandments. 1, 2, 6, 7, and 10 clearly are, and 4 and 8 imply imperatives, but 3, 5, and 9 are just observations.

Imperatives and observations are actually preferable to 'commandments.'

What's the difference between an imperative and a commandment?

The definitions on the internet are:
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4.
a command.
5.
something that demands attention or action; an unavoidable obligation or requirement; necessity:
It is an imperative that we help defend friendly nations.
6.
Grammar.
the imperative mood.
a verb in this mood.
7.
an obligatory statement, principle, or the like.

So I can't see the difference.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Collective Bargaining Modernization Act of 2014 (Voting) on: Today at 07:43:41 am
This closes in about 30 hours
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Atlasian Universal Education Bill (Debating) on: Today at 07:42:40 am
Just so we all know what's happening here
 
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Whensoever the Senate shall pass a bill and present it to the President, he shall have the option to redraft the bill and return it to the Senate in redrafted form. The President shall have this option once with each particular bill presented to him. The original sponsor of the bill, as so defined in Senate rules, shall either file a motion to approve the Presidentís redraft by a simple majority vote, and return it to the President for his signature or veto, or withdraw the bill from the Senate. If the Senate approves the President's redraft by a simple majority vote, the redrafted bill shall be returned to the President for his signature or veto. If the Senate rejects the President's redraft, the original sponsor shall either file a motion to send the original draft of the bill back to the President for his signature or veto, or shall direct the Senate to resume debate on the bill as presented to the President.

Anyway, I largely agree with polnut and cranberry. The redraft is not something I'd have done, but it doesn't fundamentally change the bill to make it something I won't support.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Recall Amendment (Debating) on: Today at 07:38:20 am
Perhaps we could have a recall for regional senators and the president/ vice president, but only if a majority of the voters in the last election want one.

So say Polnut won a regional seat against Deus, like this:

Polnut: A, B, C, D

Deus: E,F,G

then for polnut to be recalled a majority of the people A, B, C, D, E, F, G would have to want it.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Article of Impeachment Against Associate Justice Torie (Part II) on: Today at 07:34:58 am
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=39557.msg4422114#msg4422114

Problem solved Tongue
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: Today at 07:33:51 am
I'll third this
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Fix the Senate Rules Resolution (Debating) on: Today at 07:32:29 am
Senators have 36 hours to object to bore's amendment

I guess that one's more clear.

Just this one I guess is still a bit tricky?

Quote from: amendment offered
Article II of Senate rules shall be amended to read:
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1. The Speaker and the President of the Senate shall be the presiding officer of the Senate and shall be responsible for upholding the provisions of these rules.

Is it just intended that the Speaker would be, or both?

The president of the Senate would be the presiding officer for confirmation hearings so that can be left as it is.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: Today at 07:30:46 am
This is on the bathroom amendment

Also, Aye
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Article of Impeachment Against President Lumine on: December 20, 2014, 07:17:30 pm
Nay
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Improving Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: December 20, 2014, 05:58:52 pm
Senators a vote is now open on TNF's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Improving Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: December 20, 2014, 05:06:00 pm

Quote from: amendment offered
Improving Support for Carers Bill 2014

1. The Federal Government will create a new support supplement for those who are guardians or other-wise full-time carers for those who qualify for support under the Atlasian Social Security Act.

2. An individual will be eligible to receive a support supplement of $250500 per monthweek.

3. To be considered a full-time carer they must satisfy the following criteria;
3a. The individual must be recognised by regional and Federal authorities as a carer.
3b. The individual cannot work more than 1530 hours per week

4. The supplement will be provided for by an increase in the social security levy of 0.25%


Sorry about missing this

Senators have 36 hours to object to this amendment
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 20, 2014, 05:05:08 pm

Quote from: Amendment Offered
5. No gendered restroom shall be constructed with the use of federal funds effective upon the passage of this legislation. All restrooms within the confines of the Republic of Atlasia must be equally accessible to transgendered or non-gender conforming persons; no person shall be prosecuted for using the restroom of their choice as is reflected in their gender identity upon the passage of this legislation. All gendered restrooms within the Republic of Atlasia shall be replaced with equally accessible, unisex restrooms no later than five years from the date of the passage of this Act.

Senators a vote is now open on this amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Fix the Senate Rules Resolution (Debating) on: December 20, 2014, 04:56:48 pm
I realised my original amendment wasn't particularly clear, so I'm offering another one:
Quote from: amendment offered
Fix the Senate Rules Resolution

Clause 2 of Article I of Senate Rules shall be amended to read:

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2. Definitions
  Legislation - any bill, Constitutional amendment, or resolution
    Speaker - the Senate's presiding officer for regular bills and senate resolutions
 President of the Senate- the Senate's presiding officer for confirmation threads
    Sponsor - the Senator who introduces a piece of legislation to the Legislation Introduction Thread or the Senator who assumes sponsorship when the original sponsor of a piece of legislation leaves the Senate or withdraws his or her sponsorship
    Senate Floor - the threads open for Senate debate and voting on legislation on the Fantasy Government board

Article II of Senate rules shall be amended to read:
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1. The Speaker and the President of the Senate shall be the presiding officers of the Senate and  shall be responsible for upholding the provisions of these rules. Concerning legislations, no Senator other than the Speaker or the acting President of the Senate may open a thread  on the Fantasy Government board unless authorized by the Speaker or by Senate resolution.

2. The most senior Senator shall convene the Senate to elect a Speaker and a President Pro Tempore on the first day of each legislative session. The Senate shall elect a Speaker and a President pro Tempore from among its members by majority consent. If the Senate fails to reach majority consent within one week, the Vice President may serve as Speaker until agreement is reached. The most senior Senator shall retain the powers and prerogatives as Speaker until the election of the Speaker.

3. The President Pro-Tempore Speaker shall retain the powers and prerogatives as the President of the Senate under the following circumstances:
a. A publicly announced absence by the President of the Senate from the Atlas Forum.
b. If the President of the Senate has been inactive from the Atlas Forum for seven (7) days.
c. In any case where the President of the Senate has failed to uphold the provisions of this Procedural Resolution when it is in his power to do so individually.
d. During any period of time when no person is presently holding the office of President of the Senate.
e. the President of the Senate should be absent by reason of exercising responsibility as Acting President of the Republic of Atlasia under the Constitution.
f. A publicly announced conferral of such powers by the President of the Senate.


4. If the Speaker fails to post on the Fantasy Government Board for a period exceeding 5 days, i.e. 120 hours, then the most senior Senator shall immediately convene the Senate to elect a new Speaker. The Speaker may appoint another Senator as Acting Speaker during announced periods of absence. If the Speaker has done so, it shall not be necessary to elect a new Speaker unless the Acting Speaker is also for 5 days, i.e. 120 hours.

Article VI shall be amended to read:

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Article VI: Presidential Nominees

1. The President of the Senate (i.e. the Vice President) shall open a confirmation hearing for presidential nominees immediately following the president's announcement of the nomination.

2. Each hearing shall last at least for 3 days (i.e. 72 hours). The hearing may be abbreviated according to the unanimous consent rules outlined in Article IV: Rules on Senate Debate. Voting shall take place in the same fashion as votes on legislation would otherwise, according to the rules outlined in Article V: Rules on Voting.

Article I, Section 1, Subsection 4 of the 3rd Constitution is also amended to read:
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The Senate shall choose their other officers, and also a President pro tempore Speaker, who shall act as President of the Senate in the absence of the Vice President.

Article I, Section 2, Subsection 4 of the 3rd Constitution is also amended to read:
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In the event that less than 80% but at least a 60% majority of the Senate votes to impeach,14 The People shall have sole power to try such impeachments. The Chief Justice shall administer a public poll to try the impeachment, unless it is the Chief Justice who shall have been impeached, in which case the Senate President pro tempore Speaker shall administer the public poll. The public poll shall be held for seventy-two hours and shall require the consent of a majority voting to convict. Citizens shall make their vote publicly known in the form of a post.
Article II, Section 3, of the 3rd Constitution is also amended to read:
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1.If the Presidency shall ever fall vacant, the Vice President shall become President. If the Vice Presidency is also vacant, then the Senate Speaker President pro tempore shall become President. The Senate may provide by Law for the vacancy of the Senate Speaker President pro tempore also.
2.If there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President, who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of the Senate.
3.No person shall be elected to the office of either President or Vice President more than twice consecutively.
4.Whenever the President transmits to the Senate Speaker President pro tempore his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

The Presidential Succession Amendment is hereby amended to read:
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If the Presidency shall ever fall vacant, the Vice President shall become President. If the Vice Presidency is also vacant, the Secretary of External Affairs shall become President. If the office of Secretary of External Affairs is also vacant, the Attorney General shall become President. If both these offices are vacant, the Secretary of Internal Affairs shall become President. If the offices of Vice-President, Secretary of External Affairs, Attorney General and Secretary of Internal Affairs are vacant, the President pro tempore Speaker of the Senate will become President.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sanity in Foreign Policy Act (Voting on Amendment) on: December 20, 2014, 04:18:24 pm
Are we ready for a final vote?
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: FY 2015 Budget (Voting on Amendment) on: December 20, 2014, 04:16:36 pm
Aye: TNF

Nay: Bore, Yankee, Polnut, JCL, Cranberry, windjammer

Not voting: Bacon King, Deus

By a vote of 6-1 the amendment has failed
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: UPDATE-OPOLY on: December 19, 2014, 01:35:19 pm
Jerry and SWE are you guys even playing anymore I'm tryna trade you monopolies but you guys aren't even reading my PMs

I've also tried, to no effect. All that's left to do is pray that they go bankrupt on my property.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 19, 2014, 01:18:06 pm
Nay on JCL's amendment

JCL's amendment has enough votes to fail, senators have 24 hours to change their votes

Senators also have 36 hours to object to Yankee's second amendment, I'll open a vote on the first one once the JCL one is finished.

Finally, BK's amendment has passed
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Article of Impeachment against Vice President SJoyce on: December 19, 2014, 01:16:03 pm
Nay
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