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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April Senate Election Discussion Thread - ELECTION TRACKER on: Today at 04:41:44 pm
A small update; too lazy to go past the first round at this point.



TOTAL VOTES: 43
LAST VOTER: CATHCON


FIRST ROUND:   
   
ADAM   
10
ALFRED   
8

SHUA   
7
LUMINE   
6
GOLDWATER   
6
JCL   
5
A PERSON   
1

ADAM GRIFFIN & ALFRED JONES ARE ELECTED.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Cold turkey on: Today at 03:43:48 pm
Has anybody tried eCigs?

I'm not a smoker but curious about them.

When they first came out and no one knew about them it was fun to troll restaurants and businesses by using them indoors. Otherwise, useless IMO.

I managed to ditch cigarettes for about six months by using them, but ultimately fell off the bandwagon. There was no real excuse for why I did that. Sad
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hide behind the poll: have you ever taken a picture of your genitals? on: Today at 03:16:14 pm
One of the most innocent things I've done with them!
4  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: challenge to mapmakers - try drawing the wealthiest district on: Today at 04:16:18 am
As in the entire country, or for a state?

I did the latter and looked at Census data where available. I estimate the MHI of this one to be around $95k.

Obama 52.6%, McCain 46.5%

Rep 53.8%, Dem 46.2%

VAP: White 68%, Black 13%, Latino 10%, Asian 8%

5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Adam Griffin for Senate - Campaign Headquarters (GO VOTE FOR ALFRED AND I) on: Today at 03:19:52 am
The election booth is open, so please be sure to vote!

I hope you'll cast a ballot either for my good friend Alfred Jones or myself.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Debate on: Today at 02:56:54 am
QUESTION 3: What is something unique - in terms of expertise, personality, ideology, or any other kind of perspective - that you would bring to the Senate?

I think that many of my opponents would tell you (maybe not publicly) that I've always been capable of working out deals and compromises in smoky back rooms. At the end of the day, there are sometimes basic desires both sides want and deals can be forged under these conditions. Some people are in practice far more partisan or ideological than I have been in various capacities, even if my mouth sometimes must be used in that capacity. With me, you get an ardent leftist who won't bend on our principles, but won't let ideology or partisanship ultimately get in the way of striking a deal that gives us more than we lose. A net victory is a victory indeed.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April Senate Election Discussion Thread on: Today at 02:53:40 am
I guess technically as of right now, there'd be some overflow to consider, but just trying to provide quick and dirty count thus far.

VOTERS: 23
LAST VOTE: OAKVALE

   
   
FIRST ROUND:   
   
ADAM           
7
ALFRED           
4
LUMINE           
4
SHUA           
4

GOLDWATER   
2
JCL                   
2
A PERSON           
0
   
SECOND ROUND:
   
GOLDWATER   
2
JCL                   
2
   
FINAL ROUND:
   
JCL                   
2


ADAM GRIFFIN, ALFRED F. JONES, JCL, LUMINE AND SHUA ARE ELECTED.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: April 17, 2014, 05:13:59 pm
538 has adjusted its rating for the GA Senate race, giving Nunn a better chance of winning than Landrieu, Hagan, Pryor, Grimes or Begich.

Quote
The data miners at Nate Silverís FiveThirtyEight are up with an interesting analysis of what President Obamaís approval rating means for Democratic candidates in key Senate races across the country. The answer: Not as much as early polling suggested.

Michelle Nunn, they reckon, right now has a 44 percent chance of winning, with or without Obamaís overt backing.

9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Cook Report moves GA Senate race to "Toss Up" on: April 17, 2014, 05:12:29 pm
538 has adjusted its rating for the GA Senate race, giving Nunn a better chance of winning than Landrieu, Hagan, Pryor, Grimes or Begich.

Quote
The data miners at Nate Silverís FiveThirtyEight are up with an interesting analysis of what President Obamaís approval rating means for Democratic candidates in key Senate races across the country. The answer: Not as much as early polling suggested.

Michelle Nunn, they reckon, right now has a 44 percent chance of winning, with or without Obamaís overt backing.

10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How do you mow your lawn ? on: April 17, 2014, 05:00:10 pm
Exhibit K:

11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your alignment? on: April 17, 2014, 02:11:48 am
True Neutral

You are 8.3% Good.
You are 2.6% Chaotic.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Debate Discussion Thread on: April 17, 2014, 01:45:30 am

I never said your party was uniform. I said members of a certain organization have a difficult time grasping the concept that just because someone is conservative, it does not mean they are all Paul Broun because of it, Adam.

Then why even make a statement? If you're now diluting it down to, "well, not a significant enough portion of our members think in such a way", then you're saying that an insignificant portion of your party's members either won't support JCL, won't support the legislation in question, or both.  

There is no problem with my Party's candidates save for the fact that real life has interveened to reduce their activity at a rather unfortunate juncture. Imagine that, real life being more important then this bs. I never denied you the right to run or Talleyrand or Xahar or TNF even as I thought they were embracing bad ideas. People may disagree with Goldwater or JCL, but that doesnt' deny them the right to run and represent their constituencies. That is what strengthen s the game is participation of diverse views. If they both win, we will have four Senators, only one of them will be JCL. I have prided myself on my moderation on variosu economic issues and DC al Fine is likewise, hardly an ideologue and was one of the few pro-Consolidation votes in a region that overwhelmingly rejected the idea.

I didn't realize I was attempting to deny the right of someone to run or imply that you did. So the answer to the original question of "do you think JCL will win a seat?" is yes. That would suggest that a sizable enough portion of your movement is willing to support him, and therefore, it's a valid point. Just as we constantly caught flack for the elections of people like Xahar and TNF, you too will be required to face the same criticisms.

You inferred that we are deceitful. That every Federalist from Scott to Cassius, ranging across the spectrum has one true hidden agenda, that is mouth by the uncowed JCL. That is factually inaccurate, it is dishonest and it is unacceptable.

A+ party unity generation, 9/10 would read again

It doesn't matter Adam, what you are running for. As long as you are Party Chairman, engage in group attacks on the other party, you are acting as your party's chair and not as a candidate. Even setting that aside, I would not deny you the right to interveen were you not a candidate and just chairman, and one of our candidates attacked your whole Party and they (your candidates) were not available to respond right away.  



Again, I'm not sure where I've denied anyone the right to intervene. Huh You've chosen to intervene in a situation that fewer people probably would have noticed had you not made a stink about it, so quite the contrary - I'm grateful that you have highlighted the fact that your party's candidates are unavailable in the run-up to the election. And yeah, you don't have any "right" to stand in for candidates that are missing from a debate, but that has nothing to do with me.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of Federal Elections: Homelycooking, SoFE on: April 17, 2014, 12:54:44 am
Will the ballot be ready for viewing today?
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Debate Discussion Thread on: April 17, 2014, 12:51:18 am
Thank you for hosting this debate Nix.

As many of you know I'm a firm opponent in terms of government ran healthcare in RL. As such Yankees plan is a step in the right direction of restoring the free market.

And this is why I'm always admired JCL to the extent that I do: he says what he means, and details what those in his party think. We are in agreement as to what this bill would ultimately unleash upon our country.

Senators, keep your free market hands off of my Fritzcare!

I had preferred to stay out of this but since you donning your hat as Labor chair here, I will done mine as Fed Chair. Tongue

Unlike certain parties, we don't operate on the basis of their being a magic textbook from which a bog standard approach is to be taken and all must adhere 100% to. Unlike some parties we welcome diversity and the diversity of our membership illustrates that fact and why we can retain the membership of conservatives like JCL and more moderate individuals such as Duke, Scott and sbane. Our myself for instance, I have stated repeatedly that I insist upon adequate coverage for the poor and complete coverage for preventative care (it is cheaper over the long run) and I would prefer you not to infer that myself, Scott, Duke and others who have started their views are liars simply because the concept of diversity of thought is so alien in certain political organizations. Tongue It is not in ours.

Do you believe JCL will win a Senate seat?

Also, to imply that moderates are a majority of the Federalist Party or that Labor has no conservative members is a bit of a stretch.

Do you think you are going to win?

You are the one ascribing to all the views of one, man. I never made any implications of the sort you accuse me of, but you certainly did that which I accused you of.

Much as you can infer that the majority - if not complete bloc - of one party is uniform, I can generalize about another party being of a certain slant due to its majority. I also don't see any rationale behind the obvious fact that you're upset that a candidate for Senate made reference to a political party; I'm not lobbying to become a Supreme Court justice. It makes no sense, especially since you've had as much control over the selection of your candidates as any other party.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Debate Discussion Thread on: April 17, 2014, 12:34:37 am
Thank you for hosting this debate Nix.

As many of you know I'm a firm opponent in terms of government ran healthcare in RL. As such Yankees plan is a step in the right direction of restoring the free market.

And this is why I'm always admired JCL to the extent that I do: he says what he means, and details what those in his party think. We are in agreement as to what this bill would ultimately unleash upon our country.

Senators, keep your free market hands off of my Fritzcare!

I had preferred to stay out of this but since you donning your hat as Labor chair here, I will done mine as Fed Chair. Tongue

Unlike certain parties, we don't operate on the basis of their being a magic textbook from which a bog standard approach is to be taken and all must adhere 100% to. Unlike some parties we welcome diversity and the diversity of our membership illustrates that fact and why we can retain the membership of conservatives like JCL and more moderate individuals such as Duke, Scott and sbane. Our myself for instance, I have stated repeatedly that I insist upon adequate coverage for the poor and complete coverage for preventative care (it is cheaper over the long run) and I would prefer you not to infer that myself, Scott, Duke and others who have started their views are liars simply because the concept of diversity of thought is so alien in certain political organizations. Tongue It is not in ours.

Do you believe JCL will win a Senate seat?

Also, to imply that moderates are a majority of the Federalist Party or that Labor has no conservative members is a bit of a stretch.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study: Marijuana use dangerous to young peoples' brains on: April 16, 2014, 11:27:33 pm
The biggest surprise here is that Simfan supports tenured faculty.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Martinez exposť shows nasty side on: April 16, 2014, 11:24:46 pm
Well...now I understand why Hagrid likes her so much. Tongue
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: April 16, 2014, 11:21:33 pm
Fritz
Labor
Minnesota

Time to come home (in more ways than one)

Welcome home!
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Maxwell for IDS Legislator - A New Face on: April 16, 2014, 09:47:51 pm
What should the region do with the Pentagram?

I assume you are referring to The Pentagram Creation Act, and my feeling is it probably shouldn't be Government owned and operated. I would be in favor of complete privatization of the Pentagram, should someone want ownership of it.

Sorry, but the correct answer is "burn it to the goddamn ground". Cheesy

Best of luck in the race/endorsed, but what is it with all of these carpetbaggers heading south lately?
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Debate on: April 16, 2014, 09:45:34 pm
QUESTION 2: The Senate has repealed over fifty laws since last fall. What federal laws would you repeal?

Just to name a few:

Contempt of Court Act
Roll Out the Barrel Act
Don't Cry for Me Atlasia Act
Medicare Reform Act
Corporate Benevolent Fund Act

Most of these are simply unneeded or conflict with more recent statutes. I, however, want to know that if the time arises, I can be sassy in front of the Supreme Court without worry of being held in contempt of court.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Debate on: April 16, 2014, 09:33:40 pm
Thank you for hosting this debate Nix.

As many of you know I'm a firm opponent in terms of government ran healthcare in RL. As such Yankees plan is a step in the right direction of restoring the free market.

And this is why I'm always admired JCL to the extent that I do: he says what he means, and details what those in his party think. We are in agreement as to what this bill would ultimately unleash upon our country.

Senators, keep your free market hands off of my Fritzcare!
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I may run for Newberry City Commission on: April 16, 2014, 04:17:50 pm
Do they not have a pauper's affidavit in Florida?
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Debate on: April 16, 2014, 03:57:54 pm
Everyone knows me.



Under any system in which the ANHS is not the exclusive provider of health coverage in the country, the future will be one in which the public costs associated with healthcare will continue to increase. As more and more people live longer and longer lives, this is a given.

I'm not supportive of this measure because it doesn't address that, but rather is a first step toward unraveling the progress that we've already made. The gist of the reforms in Section 1 is "less coverage for fewer people". Secs 2-4 appears to be a shell game that diverts general funds away from vital services by allowing people to withhold their payroll taxes, so that they may pay for the coverage that will be denied to them due to changes in Sec 1. That's before we even get to the tinkering with high risk pools and chronic care.

I care far more about the actual cost of healthcare than I do the cost of healthcare to the federal government. If I thought the reforms proposed here would actually address the former instead of the latter, then I might be more open to dialogue. Unfortunately, this not only doesn't address long-term healthcare costs as a whole, but places the burden of solving such a problem on the back of the insured, instead of healthcare providers themselves. Rolling back Fritzcare bit-by-bit is something I will not support. I will support this:

Quote from: The New Atlasian Healthcare Act
1. All individuals residing in Atlasia are eligible covered under the Atlasian National Health Care Program entitling them to a universal, best high quality standard of care..
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: April 16, 2014, 01:08:19 pm
Pennington will make a 'major announcement' tomorrow:

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David Pennington, the only Conservative running for Governor of Georgia, will be making a major campaign announcement outside of the Governorís Office at the State Capitol tomorrow.

This comes on the heels of the recent court ruling regarding Nathan Dealís near constant ethics scandals over campaign funds and private, personal business dealings.

Any thoughts, Adam?


Please let him run as a 3rd party

Running as a third party candidate is almost impossible in GA; we have some of the most ridiculous ballot access laws

Pennington challenged Deal to a debate but the whole thing turned into a spectacle.

Sorry I missed all of this until now. Pennington...not the sharpest knife, for sure. I'll look for video somewhere - he has a tick that makes him blink constantly; I'd love to see how this all played out.

And yeah, it looks like Pennington would need around 60k signatures by June to gain ballot access as an independent (he wouldn't qualify under a political party or org), and I'm not even sure he could qualify as an indy since he's already qualified for the same office as a Republican in this cycle (even if he dropped out).
25  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: April 15, 2014, 08:47:06 pm
Meursault - Unbanned after an appeal (permitted new account for Einzige).

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