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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: Today at 02:37:31 am
And of course...this is actually a couple of months old.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: GM Political Independence Amendment (final vote) on: Today at 01:39:47 am
I agree with Adam's assessment, so I'm surprised to see that he's voted yes on this. If you take away the President's power of appointment and replace it with nothing, and you remove all accountability from the GM. I'm shocked that this seems likely to pass with barely any discussion.

Wow if this was in effect two months ago we would still be stuck with simfan. Maybe I should resign and run for senate if people in this body actually think this is a good idea. Wow.

It wouldn't be quite so bad if this amendment actually put someone in a position of oversight. Allowing two-thirds of the Senate to remove the GM equates to allowing the office carte blanche. The idea that it would work is laughable. If you want to see how well Senate oversight works in practice, look no farther than the Ben Constine impeachment hearing.

OK, so I read that completely wrong because I was distracted earlier - somehow I was convinced that we had changed the text/were striking the part that removed the President's ability in the final bill in a convoluted way. Tongue Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Changing my vote to Nay.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: July 22, 2014, 11:48:50 pm
BK we were so wrong Cry

FOR FUTURE REFERENCE: most of tonight's discussion took place over here



Yeah, that took about 10 seconds to make...


4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win the GOP runoff in Georgia? on: July 22, 2014, 11:39:52 pm
Yeah, that took about 10 seconds to make...

5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win the GOP runoff in Georgia? on: July 22, 2014, 11:36:08 pm
Yes, I give up trying to predict that Georgia's Republicans will do. In my defense, a Kingston win was quite unanimously believed likely by Georgia's politicos as well. Here's what I think happened:

I'd argue that Kingston's negativity, in a rare instance, backfired on him more than anything. In areas where he had no competition on the airwaves, it worked (Kingston ran ads for months in my media market of Chatt/NW GA; Perdue didn't; this is why Kingston won that weird patch of GA), but in ATL, he just sounded like a whiny ass compared to Perdue, who actually did run some positive, issue-based ads.

In the end, though, that two-way map above and tonight's results look pretty dang similar.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 09:44:50 pm

People should really check their equipment more carefully BEFORE election day. In any case, get hand-counting immediately!

I'm at a loss for words here

It's obvious that Sonny is stealing the election for cuz through the Good Ol' Boy/Diebold System
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 09:33:21 pm
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Due to a technical equipment error in Muscogee County, approximately 1,000 ballots will not be able to be officially counted at this time and the county will not show up as completely reporting for several more hours and could extend into Wednesday. Please check back for updates.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 09:31:10 pm
But yeah, I'm out for a bit: this looks over. Sad

I'll leave on this note:

State School Superintendent - REP   

MICHAEL L. 'MIKE' BUCK      
49.99%   190,044
RICHARD L. WOODS      
50.01%   190,144

State School Superintendent - REP   

MICHAEL L. 'MIKE' BUCK      
50.00%   190,654
RICHARD L. WOODS      
50.00%   190,635
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 09:29:22 pm
The best thing Kingston's got is some rural southern Georgia counties that have to fully report. I think its pretty much going to stay close until the end, but Perdue has got this.

On another note, Superintendent is literally 37 votes apart in the republican runoff.

There's really nothing left there in the grand scheme of things. The combined pop of counties not fully reporting below the fall line is probably 250,000 at most
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 09:13:24 pm
But yeah, I'm out for a bit: this looks over. Sad

I'll leave on this note:

State School Superintendent - REP   

MICHAEL L. 'MIKE' BUCK      
49.99%   190,044
RICHARD L. WOODS      
50.01%   190,144
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 09:11:16 pm
AP calls CD10 for Hice. Ugh.

RIP any respect left for our state Cry

>implying michelle nunn can't salvage it if perdue wins

All a Nunn win tells me is that a candidate could somehow win without staking out a firm position on anything and by being the daughter of a good senator. In other words, a Nunn win just means that family names are still important in GA.

Oh come on, you know it'd mean more than that. Refusal to acknowledge things like this is why y'all keep watching states fall.

I like Michelle Nunn as a person, but she doesn't have much substance on policy from what I'm looking at. If candidates can get away with that, fine, but that's really all I can say right now about this race should she win in November. I mean, Pryor and Landrieu still have a chance, but is either state trending Democratic like Georgia could?

I was referring to the bolded part.

If Sam Nunn weren't Michelle's father, would she really have much of a chance? She doesn't come from a career path that produces very many politicians.

Maybe not, because Georgia is horribly inelastic. What I meant is that the changes that are coming to the state are being projected a cycle or two early in this race because of who she is, but that the changes are coming nonetheless. Republicans ignore demographics; that's kind of what it sounded like you were saying ("Georgia's only competitive because Nunn/it's still our state"). Yeah, for the immediate future. She makes the race more elastic than it otherwise could be and can build a coalition of voters to bridge the gap in 2014. Come 2016, 2018, 2020 and on, you'll be able to do it without a legacy candidate.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 09:06:55 pm
AP calls CD10 for Hice. Ugh.

RIP any respect left for our state Cry

>implying michelle nunn can't salvage it if perdue wins

All a Nunn win tells me is that a candidate could somehow win without staking out a firm position on anything and by being the daughter of a good senator. In other words, a Nunn win just means that family names are still important in GA.

Oh come on, you know it'd mean more than that. Refusal to acknowledge things like this is why y'all keep watching states fall.

I like Michelle Nunn as a person, but she doesn't have much substance on policy from what I'm looking at. If candidates can get away with that, fine, but that's really all I can say right now about this race should she win in November. I mean, Pryor and Landrieu still have a chance, but is either state trending Democratic like Georgia could?

I was referring to the bolded part.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:54:31 pm
AP calls CD10 for Hice. Ugh.

RIP any respect left for our state Cry

>implying michelle nunn can't salvage it if perdue wins

All a Nunn win tells me is that a candidate could somehow win without staking out a firm position on anything and by being the daughter of a good senator. In other words, a Nunn win just means that family names are still important in GA.

Oh come on, you know it'd mean more than that. Refusal to acknowledge things like this is why y'all keep watching states fall.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:51:23 pm
Georgia stations are starting to call it for perdue

Which ones?

I'm pretty skeptical they are, since Perdue is only leading by 0.4% and there are a lot of outstanding counties.

No tickers on WSB or Chattanooga stations, but that's all I've been able to check (as in actual TV)
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:50:45 pm
Vote dump - Perdue up by 5k

AP calls CD10 for Hice. Ugh.

RIP any respect left for our state Cry

>implying michelle nunn can't salvage it if perdue wins

Perdue's the tougher candidate to face
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:45:22 pm
AP calls CD10 for Hice. Ugh.

RIP any respect left for our state Cry
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:36:01 pm
I think the rest of Chatham just dumped? Kingston ahead by 100. Cheesy
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:34:42 pm
Perdue's leading by 2,400. I'm disappointed, I'm sure the Chamber is, too, and we're all going to be having discussions in Georgia about how on God's green earth Jack Kingston managed to fumble right at the finish line.

Chatham County still has half to report and the margin is huge for Kingston. I don't think this should be called yet.

There's already been twice the turnout compared to the 2010 primary. Maybe half the precincts, but GASOS always delays displaying precincts are reporting; there are a lot of precincts that have fully reported but online system won't reflect it accurately for an hour or two after it's happened.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:31:02 pm

Ohhh yeah.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:26:47 pm
Kingston winning Clarke County
Perdue wins Dougherty County

21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:24:58 pm
Am I the only one who is familiar with Kingston from Maher and really wanted him to win?

Yes, and that's why I wanted him to win, too: I know he's got the crazy deep down in him somewhere.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:24:09 pm
SOS has every county except for Dade (in NW Georgia) reporting something.

Dade is reporting; that's the shade for tie. Wink
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:21:48 pm
Bibb might have some votes remaining; a few possible in Augusta, Columbus and Albany. It's hard to say because turnout appears to be quite varied between counties...like a lot.

It's actually even more surprising to see Perdue ahead in those cities/counties right now than the race as a whole.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:19:23 pm
It's over. Nunn is smiling ear to ear. Perdue has a shady business history.

Pretty sure Kingston would have been better. A record to attack, not seen as a moderate, did worse in polling against Nunn, etc. Perdue is essentially the Democratic Michelle Nunn; there's not going to be as much room for contrast.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (July 22: The GA-runoff) on: July 22, 2014, 08:16:23 pm
Perdue's lead is widening. 1,600 votes now. Haven't looked at all the southern metros yet to see if there's really any outstanding votes left.
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