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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - VOTE OF CONFIDENCE on: Today at 08:12:54 am
I can't believe Griffin took the time to write a 6 paragraph post decrying the drama in a chat room. So 2003.

Yes, and it's not a very good one either.  I just hope he's ready for the "little IRC chatroom crew" to make comparisons to Napoleon.

Uh, the difference being that Napoleon didn't actually ever frequent the IRC or know anything about it.

In short, yes people do talk about Atlasia on the IRC.  They also talk about how well George Wallace did in Maine, where to go to get the best hookers in DC, Dust in the Wind, how much is too high, whatever hilarious sh*t AdamFitzGerald said today, Snowstalker's pseudointellectual wannabe Marxism, or any seemingly random topic one can think of.  So yes, please go ahead good people, go to #atlasforum and see what horrors await you.  Given the types of denizens who post there, I can almost guarantee the random topic you will run into will be much horrifying and scarier than Griff's attempt at a Bilderberg Conspiracy theory.

I got to say, these are really big words from a guy who organized some of his own voting strategy in #labor (you mean Labor has their own IRC?  The HORRROR!  THE HORROR!) that allowed Labor to re-elect guys to the Senate while giving Deus (?!) first preference.

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The IRC is a cesspool (one that admittedly I still enjoy to a degree, and one that has a lot of good people who hang out there for various reasons)

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It has a consistently negative effect on the game, and yeah, it's one that this party used quite effectively to its advantage for quite some time.

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Like I said, there are also plenty of people who are in there who have nothing to do with this particular issue or the game itself, and it all can be quite fun. Even the people to whom I'm referring now I have no personal beef with, but that doesn't change the dynamic at all, apparently.

Yeah, my post pretty much says all of that. Were you just reiterating it for me?

But really, I shouldn't have to say anything more.  Griff's posts here more than enough illustrate what the problem is with his beloved and persecuted party.  It's the voices in his head conspiring to get rid of him.

Or is it the massive cache of chat logs from god knows when to the present that half the IRC crowd has that say all that needs to be said? Say what you want about me, but at least I didn't shit-talk you every time you'd leave the room.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your actual party affiliations on: Today at 05:00:13 am
The laws of the State of Texas Georgia prevent me or anyone else from having a formal party identification. Below is my "self-reported" identification:

Democrat: 2002-Present
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: Today at 04:35:15 am
Dundee looks off.

Short version of my view on the results: No has not only won, but won by enough to avoid too much dispute. It's a clean with for no, and while it's remarkable that 44.7% of Scots were prepared to leave the Union, it puts the issue to bed for a while in a way that a 52% win would not have.

Oh, wow. I had actually fixed that in the image right after I posted, but apparently I just copied and pasted the URL to the old map again instead of the updated one. It's now fixed.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: Today at 03:22:45 am
So here's a make-shift map with the final results using afleitch's template, with all the wards for each district colored to reflect the district's results.

5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - VOTE OF CONFIDENCE on: Today at 02:16:03 am
I feel like I skipped a half-dozen chapters of a book, or something. What exactly are some people so upset about? I genuinely don't get it. It seems like there are some people that have these nagging issues yet don't publicly elaborate on them and restrict them to more gossipy avenues.

How are issues to be worked out, it that's the case?

I can only speak from my own perspective, but let's lay it all out here.

For starters, this vote was opened as nothing more than a genuine opportunity for the party to re-evaluate the recent climate we've found ourselves in, and decide where to go from here. Several of us had discussed both recently and long ago what we'd do if the party reached a point where it started looking like the Liberals did in 2013. An unreasonably large amount of unreasonable scrutiny of us has been occurring lately and it's been quite effective at poking and prodding discourse against us and within us.

The root of this antagonizing is coming almost exclusively from within The People's Party, and the water to that root is the IRC. People from other parties who jumping in on it are doing so because they see an opportunity, and I have no issue with them because I understand how the game does and should work. Behind the scenes, a number of rank-and-file Laborites are being contacted in one form or another (either through IRC or PM) in an attempt to continue what initially started with the assassination of the President's administration. If I had to put one date on when this obviously became deliberate and expanded beyond the criticism of windjammer, it'd be August 16th. There have been numerous public "justifications" for these recent smears, where a correlation is drawn to one relatively insignificant act or another. "Labor is bad because windjammer is controlling the Senate!" or "OMG, a bad piece of legislation was sponsored: time for revolution" or "Labor's deciding to keep its doors open or not, it's a Soviet plot", or "Labor is run by a dictator, waaaah" sort of drivel.

Almost everyone involved with these deceptive shenanigans doesn't care about policy in reality. The IRC is a cesspool (one that admittedly I still enjoy to a degree, and one that has a lot of good people who hang out there for various reasons), and I know it well enough to feel its presence in-game even when I'm not in there. Dozens of people would tell you that I spent a good year in there daily for extended periods, so this isn't like someone with no experience discussing its effect. It has a consistently negative effect on the game, and yeah, it's one that this party used quite effectively to its advantage for quite some time. Sadly and unsettling for the prospects of this game, you could create a chart with almost near-perfect correlation to the success of Labor and how much time I was willing to spend in IRC on a weekly or monthly basis. As you can tell, I've been virtually MIA from IRC for the past three months. Tongue

A lot of the people in this game who don't go there don't understand it, and it's the biggest "open secret" of the game. A lot of our less-engaged members and players from all over the ideological spectrum don't really get it, but I offer a challenge to them: pick five random times per day over five random days in the next month, and log into what is known as the IRC. Just take a look around and see who all is in there, and you can connect your own dots. Like I said, there are also plenty of people who are in there who have nothing to do with this particular issue or the game itself, and it all can be quite fun. Even the people to whom I'm referring now I have no personal beef with, but that doesn't change the dynamic at all, apparently.

But the IRC runs the game, or at least the part of it that plays the game. That's the other unspoken secret. I'm sure you understand this and many others do, as well. Every single President that has been elected after Napoleon would have not been elected if the IRC had swung in the opposite direction. Its decided probably around 90% of all competitive elections in this game since Ive been in it. IRC is a hive-mind that tends to violently gyrate from one frame of mind to another. And with this sudden shift of seeming allies against us keep in mind, almost all of this happened at a point when party leadership was essentially inactive there too seems to be little genuine justification. I cant be clairvoyant and tell you why its happening (an epic fit of trolling is a perfectly believable assertion considering the source), but its easy to tell both what is happening and what is a bullsh!t explanation of why its supposedly so.

So yeah, this vote is the result of some of us are genuinely asking the question of whether or not we want to continue in the face of this sycophantic bullsh!t, and if we are to do so, then how should we adapt. Its not a way to flush out those who are less likely to toe the party-line, and its not a plan to crack down on anybody (this seems to be a common whisper right now). As for me, Im fine with either option of the original question we're answering about our Party, in so long as our Party makes said decision with an overwhelmingly unified belief that the other option isnt feasible or a choice. What I wouldnt be fine with is watching the sperg cabal and the internal dissent it has sowed rot this Party away slowly and painfully. 
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Sawx for Governor - Our Northeast on: September 18, 2014, 10:23:06 pm
Second of all, I have released a quote from one of Barnes' official press releases on bicameralism that proves that my quote was factually correct. He literally said that the death of bicameralism was rather sad, and no amount of doublespeak can take back what my opponent really feels about it. It is fairly obvious that bicameralism would be a federal takeover of regional rights, and I see it as beyond unacceptable. The beauty of the Atlasian system is that if we want a law passed, and we want to see if it is a good idea, we can simply test it out in one of our five regions. If our test run fails, then the plan is repealed and dies. If it succeeds, then other regions, or even the federal government, can expand it so the entire country can prosper. Taking that away would destroy that potential that we have.

Running a campaign that hedges its fortunes on an essentially 50/50 issue is not smart, especially when it's essentially the only non-copycat stance taken thus far. No wonder the Real People didn't endorse you. Also, in the doomsday scenario you seem to think would manifest, you easily forget that three regions would still exist.

As for that specific issue, I'd like to point out Barnes' party's support of the Ratification Process Alteration Resolution, which, in simpler terms, would allow state assemblies to ratify constitutional amendments by a simple majority vote. I had to mull over time to think about it, but this simply seems like a terrible idea. While Senator Deus raises very valid concerns about taking power from the people and putting it in the hands of politicians, I believe that the RPAR is a scheme to revive the dead idea of bicameralism and take away our rights. Electing Barnes to the governor's mansion would leave him as the last line of defense between the people and an overreaching government, and considering he supports this issue, keeping him in charge would be dangerous.

You should check out the 17th Amendment. Executives can't veto an amendment ratified by a region by popular vote, and the powers allocated in the 17th Amendment do not treat either of the potential methods of ratification (popular vote or legislature) differently. The executives of each region have no power based on the wording of the 17th to sign or veto either a change in the method of ratification, or individual amendments themselves.

But as Barnes requested, I will outline my issues. Personally, I believe that we do not need a constitutional convention in fact, I consider it yet another scheme for Labor to circumvent the rules and subvert the will of our people. My opponent even said that the Northeast was the most active region, and because of that, we should keep our current constitution instead of scrapping the entire thing.

He probably requested that because everything thus far from this campaign has either been a knee-jerk reaction to CJO Barnes' stances on issues, or discussion on issues that Barnes already has articulated. Where's the originality? Also, considering a constitutionally-defined procedure for cleaning up inconsistencies, duplicities and other shortcomings in our governing documents is a scheme? Do you personally intend to go through the entire Constitution, locate each potential flaw and address them one at a time? I can flatly tell you that will never happen.

As for housing, I believe that housing the poor is a very noble cause, and that we should end homelessness. The group that I want to focus on first, however, is Atlasia's veterans. They have risked life and limb to preserve our freedom, and they deserve better than being abandoned by our country. I would sponsor a bill for free housing for our veterans, administered by our Veterans' Affairs program. Also, should a veteran want to further their education, I support their fully subsidized college education, and I would support a job training program if they wanted to go in that field. The men and women who fought for our country deserve to fight it's time to give them a fighting chance.

Which is why the Labor Party was ecstatic after Bore's Northeast Anti-Homelessness Act went into effect. It not only ensures that no one has to sleep on the streets, but it significantly reduces the cost to taxpayers associated with incarceration and emergency care (and of course, helps these individuals avoid said fates). I'm curious as to where you would get the money to support such a boondoggle of giving literally every single veteran a free home, especially when the potentially justified cost savings have already been addressed. You're talking about potentially tens of billions of dollars here.

In conclusion, it is clear why my opponent is engaging in attacks against me instead of debating the issue. While I have created a specific alternative to help bring back true, meaningful reform while preserving our region's ideals of freedom, CJO Barnes continues to try and resuscitate a plan that he admits is dead. While I have shown my willingness to go against Labor in the past and was punished for it, Barnes' only plan is to game the system so he can help pass a government takeover of our Northeast. So to answer your question, Barnes why am I running? I'm running because I want to serve the pPeople's Party. You're running because you want to serve your party.

There's not much to attack thus far, and frankly, Barnes has been far more committing to discussing policy in so much as I see it. You also were literally never punished for going against Labor, not only because there is no enforcement mechanism in a voluntary game for such measures, but also because you've never actually even engaged in the game until just a couple of days ago - good politics, though. You shouldn't be upset that you came out swinging and are now going to face criticism for your poorly-thought-out proposals, empty rhetoric and essential campaign slogan of "boo Labor", which is of course why I'm here. Smiley
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Olive Garden takes triumphant stance against Wall Street on: September 18, 2014, 04:19:12 am
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8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - VOTE OF CONFIDENCE on: September 17, 2014, 06:51:42 pm

Hello comrades,

With a scheduled convention quickly approaching, we have some business that should be addressed beforehand.

For the past two years, the Labor Party has been the only party that has maintained a consistent upward trajectory in all aspects of this game. Its amazing to think that we are now the only dissolution party to remain in existence, and possibly second only to the JCP in combination of size, amount of influence and duration of said influence. Many of us can remember back to 2012, when we were a distant third-place party in this game. How far we have managed to go since then.
 
I credit this in large part due to the fact that we had something that no other party truly enjoyed: a combination of close-knit camaraderie and ideological zeal. Both of these elements have been present and potent throughout our rise; every other party weve come across has either only possessed one of these elements, or a weak concentration of both. The organizing of our party into something more deliberate also lifted us from the annals of insignificance, but the bonds of friendship and the agreement to show a united front on most policy gave us the ability to dispatch with every opponent along the way.

But as of late, these elements seem to be fading. It saddens me that some of our newer players and members may have missed out on the Glorious Era That Was, as it makes them more susceptible and less aware of the shenanigans that many use in this game currently with much success against our own party. Because Ive also made it no secret to many members that this will be my final term as your Party Chair (for good, this time), Im distressed that Ill be leaving office at such a tumultuous time given the historical success during my tenure over the past couple of years. It does provide a sense of liberation and introspection, however, in regards to mistakes made and successes won.

We see a wide variety of disagreements on policy in public among members, with no regard whatsoever for what that does to party morale or long-term vision. We see members being influenced by outside forces that have no concern for the future of this party - and lets be real: were talking about the IRC/TPP bloc, which has always been just as content at conspiring against any faction in this game as they are being allied with them; there isnt a single other entity that has spent more time on both sides of this fence with them than Labor, so please withhold the inevitable rebuttals. We see consistent defections at the ballot box more than at any point since I joined the party leadership - and in many cases from people who expect to use our party to get elected, but will then refuse to vote for its candidates.

Labor more than anything has been a great experiment: to show that there was no need to be a generic, left-center party in Atlasia in order to rise to power. We didn't get to JCP levels in that regard, but I don't think any of us expected that given the goals. We've done great things, both on the policy front and the partisan front. To be a left-center bloc is to take the easy way forward: yawn, we all know what happens. Anyone who has seen the full rise of Labor knows that practically everyone has always sought to deter us, implicitly or explicitly; we should never expect allies in exchange for selling our party out. We hold our future in our hands, but we must stop giving others the power to exploit us, like the left-center once had over us so long ago.

We must pick one path of the two.

1) I maintain that this Party can still succeed, can still be strong and can still do everything it has and more, but not with all of the fractures and flaws currently present. I blame myself considerably for being lax lately with whipping votes, creating new opportunities for players, recruiting fresh faces, paying appeasement tribute to the IRC precincts and engaging with members like I once did, but the end of my era is quickly approaching. Almost anyone with some semblance of normalcy should burn out after running the Atlasian show for two years (ideally sooner). But if you want to save it, then we must first save ourselves from ourselves, and others must be capable of taking the reins. The attacks against us that are supposedly related to extreme policies are not valid; many of us have been around long enough to know that weve always been considerably to the left of the rest, and that this line of attack is almost always a suit of armor to shield the attacker from displaying their true personal, ambitious or trollish motivations.

2) But choosing to act like we have been acting, a party cannot stand, and will not stand. We fought against dying, zombie parties and non-ideological cliques and cults because they have no purpose in this game. If our party, too, has reached that point, then it should be accepted. Were not the Liberal Party. Were not the Whig-Communitarian Party. Were not the Imperial Bloc. Were not The Peoples Party. Were not the Progressive Union. We're not any of the others. Were the goddamned Labor Party of Atlasia, and if were to go down, then well do it with dignity and on our own terms.



As such, you now have a choice, and we will choose which path to take by holding a vote of confidence on the continued existence of the Labor Party.

Only Labor Party members at the time of this publication (43 in all) shall be eligible to vote.

This vote will last for 96 hours.

If there is at least 60% turnout (26 voters) with 75% or more of the voters voting to continue, we will lay this to rest.

If there is at least 60% turnout (26 voters) with less than 75% of voters voting to continue, an additional discussion and vote will be held.


OFFICIAL BALLOT:

Should the Labor Party of Atlasia continue to exist, or should it dissolve?

[  ] Continuation
[  ] Dissolution
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 17, 2014, 05:00:48 am
This all seems fairly straightforward enough, and I rarely reply to anything because Bushie always goes into meltdown mode when I do, but Bushie has an extreme propensity to abdicate responsibility if an "authority figure" tells him it's OK.

It doesn't matter if that person truly knows better when it comes to what Bushie needs for personal development or whether they actually know better about a particular subject: he's taking that advice, by God, and you better not dare question him nor the person who advised him's qualifications to do so (because then you're viciously attacking both him and them by insinuating they're stupid, ignoring good ol'-fashioned tradition for elitism, and most importantly, taking away from Bushie his guilt-free cop-outs).

More often than not, these authority figures seem to provide him with advice that allows him to cop-out of making the right decision in his personal, financial, occupational and educational backgrounds. The biggest question is why so many around him are willing to not only condone his bad behavior, but also seem to provide objectively-bad advice. I would say that undiagnosed mental illness in Southern culture is much more pronounced and often hereditary in general, but Bushie won't have any of that, so perhaps Bushie is just so great at convincing people to tell him what he wants to hear and then, hey, "I made the right decision - that's a fact" or whatever.

He'll go home early from school or work if his teacher or boss tells him it's OK - even if he's not feeling that bad and even if he needs to be present for his own sake of sticking to an actual schedule, instead of just planning schedules. He'll quit a job if mom and dad tell him it's alright, because he should literally spend all of his free time looking for a better job - even though the job-hunts never, ever take enough time to justify calling the task itself your "full-time job". He'll suddenly change his life goals if he believes a religious adviser has sensed he was called to do something, but when that gets difficult, an amazing change in his purpose is handed down from on high. He goes on a diet and promises to keep it, but each and every opportunity at which even the slightest amount of resistance presents itself - whether grandma cooks unhealthy, mom cooks unhealthy, the McDonald's is closer than the supermarket, or the regular Coca-Cola is simply too precious to waste by pouring out for Diet Coke - he'll explain that it'd just be too rude or difficult to adapt to the situation positively.

But there really is a common theme to all of these bad decisions, and summarized below is an easy-to-remember system.

The B.U.S.H.I.E. System:

Step 1: Bluntly Decide What You'll Ultimately Do
Step 2: Use Authority Figures After Convincing or Reassuring
Step 3: Sell the Excuse to Others
Step 4: Hold Others Who Criticize in Contempt
Step 5: Ignore Additional Advice
Step 6: Exit Conversation
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NC: PPP confirms that the race is Lean D on: September 17, 2014, 03:45:51 am
Hagan has definitely been perceived by me as the safest bet in terms of RSDs - incumbent or not - for most of the year. It seems the trend is now really reflecting that. Of course even a small swing could upset this, but for now, this is her's to lose. She may even be in a better situation currently than someone like Braley ("but muh funduhmentals").
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NH-ARG: Shaheen+5 on: September 17, 2014, 03:36:06 am
Fool's gold for Republicans as long as Shaheen continues to seek re-election, but this poll probably is closer to the truth than the ones that were showing her up by 8-10 a couple of months ago.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA: AJC/SRBI: Perdue leading by 4 on: September 17, 2014, 03:32:40 am
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA: InsiderAdvantage/Fox5: Perdue +10 on: September 17, 2014, 03:32:02 am
Someone please add to database (even though this one is garbage).
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA: WSB/Landmark: Nunn +3 on: September 17, 2014, 03:31:31 am
Someone please add to database.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Most iconic sig in Atlas history? on: September 17, 2014, 02:34:23 am
This one of Naso's, but the variation that had Obama saying "YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT" was even better (can't find it now):

16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are gas prices where you're at? on: September 17, 2014, 02:20:56 am
$3.05-$3.15
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Predict Margin (%) for KY-Senate on: September 17, 2014, 01:29:27 am
51 McConnell
47 Grimes
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 538 Model Debut: 64% Chance of Republican Majority; R+7 Most Likely on: September 17, 2014, 01:18:26 am
Barring some big changes in several different races, 2014 may be the year when Silver loses his shine. Looking back, each national cycle he has covered has been relatively one-sided and not as many individual races were truly close; his "none here and one there" track-record of inaccuracies may fall apart. As it stands and as it has stood for many months, there's a good chance that:

  • several Senate races could be very close to 50/50 (two-way model)
  • the national PV could be very close to 50/50
  • the composition of the Senate may end up being 50/50

That makes his whole probability angle risky in terms of correctly identifying who will win (I don't care if the method provides a technical cop-out for him: people listen to him because they expect his probabilities are going to be the result).

Nate has said himself that he doubts he (or anyone else) is likely to get every race (or all but 1) race correct. That isn't (or at least shouldn't) be a knock on him. He's not a wizard, he can only work with the information available. If a race is a true tossup according to all available data then he can't read people's minds.

I didn't think it sounded like that's what I was saying. Hopefully this description will be acceptable to Harry since he is right: Silver's model has missed the mark several times when it comes to associating which candidate has a majority chance of winning with actual victory, and that's fine. It has been no biggie up until now when compared to how often his model does associate who has a better chance of winning with who actually wins.

Basically, I'm saying it's possible that there are 6, 7 or 8 of those exceptions with his model in this election, instead of 1, 2 or 3. I think this could happen due to how uniformly close many individual races are, and the national sentiment/likely turnout. Maybe a lot of these races clearly solidify with a final trend before Election Day, and then his model would likely perform as usual.

If there are a lot of upsets, then people are going to start doubting him. It doesn't matter what his calculations actually reflect - people's perceptions do. Even among political nerds (who aren't statistics majors/the most data-driven of the data-driven), there'll be a lot of people who suddenly don't have as much faith in Nate Silver as they once did. And I'm fine with that (Silver should be, too), because incorrect perceptions of his line of work are what made him notable in the first place.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: October Presidential Race - North Star Polls on: September 16, 2014, 08:07:37 pm
The smear campaign has worked. It's ridiculous that DemPGH's numbers are where they are; you'd think he's Napoleon in his second term. When he's been far more engaged and willing to get things done than almost any other President in the past two years, I have to ask if the people talking about "sanity" and the "future of the game" really know what the hell they're talking about (or if they're saying it with a straight face).
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: AR: Gravis: Clinton trailing on: September 16, 2014, 06:30:12 am
>Gravis
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Carson: ISIL is like Political Correctness on: September 16, 2014, 06:29:04 am
America's not going to elect two black men in a row. He's wasting his time unless he wants more cushy commentator jobs with Fox, WND, etc.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 538 Model Debut: 64% Chance of Republican Majority; R+7 Most Likely on: September 16, 2014, 03:54:50 am
Barring some big changes in several different races, 2014 may be the year when Silver loses his shine. Looking back, each national cycle he has covered has been relatively one-sided and not as many individual races were truly close; his "none here and one there" track-record of inaccuracies may fall apart. As it stands and as it has stood for many months, there's a good chance that:

  • several Senate races could be very close to 50/50 (two-way model)
  • the national PV could be very close to 50/50
  • the composition of the Senate may end up being 50/50

That makes his whole probability angle risky in terms of correctly identifying who will win (I don't care if the method provides a technical cop-out for him: people listen to him because they expect his probabilities are going to be the result).
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alison likes Skeet Shooting on: September 16, 2014, 03:45:21 am
Alison for Kentucky TV Ad "Skeet Shooting":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Pa16JPUlY

This is a pretty good ad - simply because of the photo of McConnell awkwardly holding a gun.

It comes across as desperate to me, even though she is either actually shooting those skeets or they've got a body-double/someone else shooting them.

"I'M NOT OBAMA YOU SEE I LOVE GUNS, THE NRA AND COAL"

The only way it could have gotten even better is if they used coal-mercury composite skeets. Though she's definitely the better one to be seen with a gun; I doubt McConnell will go into that territory (but of course, he isn't losing right now).
24  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: 58% on: September 15, 2014, 09:03:12 pm
Adam, if elected, what do you propose to do about awful spread of whatever this thing is?

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Also, now more prudent than ever, as we're getting multiple variations of threads described for individual posters.
25  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 15, 2014, 09:01:25 pm
The thing about KCDem is that I'm starting to think he might be a Republican trying to give Democrats a bad name, perhaps as a "Democrats are the real racists" kind of ploy.

But more likely, KCDem is just someone who needs a LOT of help.

I have long suspected that KC is a parody account.

This is why I like him!
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