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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE3: Because You've Earned It Act (Debating) on: Today at 10:57:33 am
I haven't spouted off any ad hominem attacks. I've simply pointed out that your arguments here don't make any sense.

Neither do yours or AdamGriffin's.

By your own admissions ballot placement doesn't affect sh*t in the game, but it affects competition?

Double negative much?

I don't mean to be a pest, but this is really a pot calling the kettle black situation.  Even if Sawx is being a bit of a hack and trumpeting this as a campaign issue (he is), you haven't done as smashing of a job putting down his points as you think you have.  If anything, you've damaged your own credibility, for the argumentative reasons I outlined above.

Nope. I can count on one hand the number of people in this game currently who'd be motivated by the dynamic produced in this bill, it has absolutely nothing to do with their personal casting of votes, and just about every one of them is dormant at the moment. Strong party and movement leaders come and go. That's who we're talking about here when it comes to "competition": the people who move things about, enjoy the mechanics that come with it, organize efforts and compete for the mere sake of competition. I'm one of them. People like this come and go, as do parties, as does the balance of power in a given region. That's why to talk about it in a partisan element is so short-sighted, because just about every ideology and every major party has had a plurality hold on just about every region in just the past two years I've been here.

Everybody else - as in, the uber-uber-vast majority of voters, aren't going to be affected by this in the slightest. Zilch. Nada. And if by some reason they are convinced to vote for a party or person at the top of the ballot against their own will because that party's at the top of the ballot, well, then they're idiots. Again, that's not the purpose of it, and I think very few people get that because very few people operate on the level of what this i
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Abolish The Pacific: a four-region plan that might be crazy enough to work on: Today at 07:13:46 am
And if you look at the voter rolls in the Pacific now, it surely isn't bound to happen these days. Even with a crowdsourced-aggregate map and detailed plan that we spent months on, people couldn't get on board. But anyone who's wanting to continue carrying the torch of consolidation need only finish ratifying FTRA in (2?) of the 3 regions that have yet to ratify it to begin the next phase (consent; Senate). If a majority of a regional legislature is willing to support that, then they can use the 17th Amendment to make it happen (at least that one part of the consolidation)

Which regions haven't passed it? Is there a link to the text of this FTRA because it doesn't look like there's a spot on the Wiki for unsuccessful/yet-to-be-successful amendments to the third constitution

Pacific and Midwest passed it. The amendment votes were at the beginning of the year and had terrible turnout (which is why it got like 38% nationwide despite having majority support in several polls). .
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Abolish The Pacific: a four-region plan that might be crazy enough to work on: Today at 05:43:48 am
I guess this is a proposal I could support, but the great problem would be that we literally tried to abolish us. We (me, DemPGH, a few others) tried, and the Pacific was not in favour. Without approval from the Pacific, the South and the Midwest, this is not going to work; and I doubt the Pacific will now be in favour of this.

And if you look at the voter rolls in the Pacific now, it surely isn't bound to happen these days. Even with a crowdsourced-aggregate map and detailed plan that we spent months on, people couldn't get on board. But anyone who's wanting to continue carrying the torch of consolidation need only finish ratifying FTRA in (2?) of the 3 regions that have yet to ratify it to begin the next phase (consent; Senate). If a majority of a regional legislature is willing to support that, then they can use the 17th Amendment to make it happen (at least that one part of the consolidation), but of course there is the part you mention about actually getting people to support it through a majority region-wide vote - which is part of the consent process. To start over again would be a waste of good legislative effort.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: BREAKING: Stupid tiebreaking laws might affect the Northeast Senate race on: Today at 02:55:22 am
The fact that we're even having to talk about a potential tie in this race (though it happens in every NE Senate race) is pretty telling on the part of the NE electorate, but I have faith in four-term John Borre'w.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: Today at 02:50:06 am
you don't make a 90 year old woman cook and clean for you

Like I said for most of the meals, we will cook together and I will clean up after myself, do my own laundry, and do everything that I would normally do by myself except eating somewhat healthier meals with more frequency, eating less fast food.  I will insist on pitching in on the grocery bill.  She has a very nice yard that I can walk around in so I can start following my doctor's recommendations from my September appointment.  Walmart is just 3 miles away so I will have an indoor place to go walking when it gets too cold outside to walk.  Plus, I can start walking with my pastor again.  I'll live there rent free, because she won't accept my money, but I will pitch in on certain things.  I'll make enough money that I can live a little more comfortably with her and not have to worry about too much except getting up every morning for work.

Really, the benefits of this stay with her far outweigh the negative.  She will drive me up the wall on occasion and I may drive her up the other wall, but I can work and get a head start on the next bill that I hope to pay off in 13 months.  I can also look after her and make sure she's doing okay and be there to alert Mom if things go south with her.

I love how Bushie is using this as a defense here.  I will walk and walk some more. 

Please do, Jeff, because just walking should not be a chore. 



Notice all the subconscious conditional indicators that tell us he's not going to walk or help out, as if prior history weren't a guide?
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Northeast State Representation Act (At Final Vote) on: Today at 02:43:19 am
I didn't catch this in time and I'm sorry for not being in here more, but Dallasfan is right: we can't restrict their federal voting rights. I'll have to ABSTAIN on this one as well.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: October 24, 2014, 08:28:51 pm
It's my money and if I want to be "financially wasteful", I should be allowed to.  I should not be subjected to hours of insults and character assassinations because of it.  I'm seeing clearly what kind of people some of these posters are, and frankly, it is disturbing.

It'll be "your money" when you hold down a stable job for more than a few months, stop mooching off of your relatives on a constant basis and pay them back the thousands (tens of thousands?) of dollars that you owe them, you selfish brat.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: October 24, 2014, 08:22:31 pm
I suggest you sublet your Tulsa apartment and use the money from that to find temporary accommodations in Oklahoma City. If the job lasts, then you'll be abandoning your apartment anyway. And if it doesn't, you won't have thrown away what is likely $800 a month on an apartment that sits empty with an extravagant cable package that won't be watched.

Also, keeping an apartment there so you can put 212 miles round trip on your car on weekends to have a church picnic and watch football alone is utterly ridiculous. As if you weren't throwing enough money away by sitting on an empty apartment 100 miles away, you decide to rack up miles on your car and gas by making a meaningless trip.

Again, I'm not doing anything wrong.  I'm a different duck.  I'm not a wrong duck.

It's not "wrong," Jeff. It's financially wasteful. And the fact that you've become so irritated and keep reiterating how right you are is revealing. You know you're holding onto an apartment you're not living in, an expensive cable package you're not watching and will try to justify that all by wasting gas and mileage to have a weekly confab with a church group you've known for all of a few months. At this point, you're not facing the reality of that foolishness and are too proud to admit otherwise.

I'm not irritated at the forum being perplexed, but I'm irritated by the viciousness of the attacks.  I thought we could talk about things cordially and calmly, not insulting someone because they don't like what they're doing, but apparently chivalry is dead.  You yourself are not being mean, but there are posters here this evening that are engaging in very vicious and vile attacks and insults over something they really shouldn't even care about.

Yep, me included, because you need to snap out of it. You want things your way all the time - we all get it - but talking nicely just doesn't seem to break through that thick head of yours. Your parents are too nice to you, your family is too nice to you, and probably most others in your life as as well - and that's what reinforces your ability to walk around acting like you are never in the wrong whatsoever. The only people who are honest with you are the people on this forum and some of your in-laws according to Facebook reports (and neither are blood-related, which is why they don't put up with your crap). You needed more yelling at as a child, but since you still act like one today, I suppose it's not too late.

And if we're not supposed to care, then please quit fycking telling us about every aspect of your life, kthx. Seriously: shut up and go do some CADD practice with your time or something (and more than 45 MINUTES MAX).
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: N1: Freedom of Thought Act (At Final Vote) on: October 24, 2014, 08:19:47 pm
Aye
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: GRIFFGRAPH ELECTION CENTER on: October 24, 2014, 08:06:01 pm
I'll re-neg on my previous statement, and post an update. These may be inaccurate because I haven't redone the count, so feel free to chime in with anything you notice.

PRESIDENT:

Lumine - 22
Marokai - 15
Poirot - 10
Al - 9

Lumine - 34
Marokai - 23


MIDEAST:

Windjammer - 11
Cassius - 5
MadmanMotley - 4

Windjammer - 11
Cassius - 7

(Bmotley is eliminated)

MIDWEST:
TNF - 3
Cris - 3

NORTHEAST:

Matt - 7
Bore - 6
Lief - 6
Bore - 9
Matt - 9

(Lief and bore are tied at the moment; assuming bore amassed more [1]s at the moment)
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is Bushie the most selfish Atlas poster? on: October 24, 2014, 07:59:11 pm
Well, the rest of the forum doesn't broadcast their life story to everyone, so we don't know for sure. But I'm sure he'd at least be in the top 10.

That's more or less an indicator in and of itself.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: October 24, 2014, 07:49:44 pm
Listen, guys, I know my decisions are rarely popular, but this one is no worse than any of the previous decisions.  You are trying to get me to admit guilt.

"I make horrible, terrible, stupid decisions all the time while mooching off of my family, so why should anyone be upset about this one?"

I can't find where I should admit guilt, because my conscience is completely clear.

Of course you can't and of course it is, because you are delusional, as you've clearly demonstrated for years.

If you were here in Oklahoma with me you would understand where I'm coming from a lot of times.  If you sat in on the family meetings you would understand.  As it is, you are all arm-chair quarterbacking and pointing fingers. You did know that every time you point a finger you have three pointing back at you, right?

Don't try to exclusively blame your environment for the bad decisions you make. It is a huge problem, and mostly because you perpetuate it - "family meetings" - you're a grown-ass man who should be making grown-ass decisions. No doubt the only reason anyone would continue to help you out at this point is because they either already know what you're unwilling to admit, or have an unnatural desire to keep you close to their bosoms instead of making you do what's best for your long-term sustainability. Either you're making bad, selfish, stupid decisions on your own, or this so-called advice is terrible (hint: likely both). People removed from the situation are able to provide more objective advice than anyone who's trying to justify every single bad decision they've made, or the people who continue to reinforce the behavior.

Hint: if all of the decisions you make invariably wind up leading you back to mooching off of your family and quitting jobs to chase pipedreams, then maybe you shouldn't be taking advice from them. I have a strung-out relatives who can't be trusted with money and others who can't give the slightest bit of helpful advice: I don't go have pow-wows with them because they're "family".

Do not judge me.  I'm not a horrible person.  None of you are any better than me.  You're not any worse, but none of you are any better.

Who are you trying to convince, us or you? I always love this type of commentary from you, because I always imagine you screaming it at yourself in the mirror to reassure yourself of the lies that you continue to try to trick the rest of us into believing.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: October 24, 2014, 07:12:58 pm
Where do you suggest I live while I work?  Under a bridge?  At the homeless shelter?

Yes. At some point in your life, you need/are going to have to learn the consequences of your stupid and selfish decisions, so it might as well be right now.

No guilt here.  I'm just annoyed.  The only thing I'm guilty of is continuing the Update.  I am very comfortable with my decisions while I work this job.

You shouldn't be, because they're either fycking stupid decisions or selfish decisions. How you can say "you're not wrong", "I feel no guilt", "I'm different" with a straight face is laughable. YOU'RE SPENDING $1000+ PER MONTH ON A STORAGE BIN AND CABLE, AND YOUR RECOURSE FOR SAID STUPID DECISION IS TO GO MOOCHING OFF OF YOUR 90 YEAR-OLD GRANDMOTHER. You shouldn't be "comfortable" with the decisions you're making. You should in fact be made to feel very uncomfortable, so that maybe you'll snap out of this permanent rut you've been in where everyone around you lets you get away with acting like a child because they most likely think you're semi-handicapped. You shouldn't be comfortable; you should be flensed.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: October 24, 2014, 06:20:47 pm
Bushie, will you at least cancel the cable package when you don't live there at all?

Realize every month that one entire week of your work will be spent on the rent and utilities at a place you don't live in at all. Perhaps more than a week when factoring in gas.



I thought about cancelling the cable package, but that would incur a huge disconnect fee that it wouldn't be worth it.  I called today about downgrading, but the agent spoke to me honestly and said I currently have $175 in discounts and if I take items away, I lose the discounts and that could likely cause my bill to actually skyrocket.  So, it's more cost effective to keep it as is.  That's okay with me because I will be come up here every other Friday after work and spend the night and watch some football and go back to Grandma's Saturday evening.

This clarifies everything.

I'm mainly coming up here to check on things and pay rent.  Football is a nice additive.

As if you're in the position to be "checking on" anything. Go home and leave your poor grandma alone.

Okay, that makes no sense whatsoever, so I'll dismiss it.

You're a burden. I'm sure she's cooking for you and cleaning up after you, ugh.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: October 24, 2014, 06:10:14 pm
Bushie, will you at least cancel the cable package when you don't live there at all?

Realize every month that one entire week of your work will be spent on the rent and utilities at a place you don't live in at all. Perhaps more than a week when factoring in gas.



I thought about cancelling the cable package, but that would incur a huge disconnect fee that it wouldn't be worth it.  I called today about downgrading, but the agent spoke to me honestly and said I currently have $175 in discounts and if I take items away, I lose the discounts and that could likely cause my bill to actually skyrocket.  So, it's more cost effective to keep it as is.  That's okay with me because I will be come up here every other Friday after work and spend the night and watch some football and go back to Grandma's Saturday evening.

This clarifies everything.

I'm mainly coming up here to check on things and pay rent.  Football is a nice additive.

As if you're in the position to be "checking on" anything. Go home and leave your poor grandma alone.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: will bushie actually practice with autocadd? on: October 24, 2014, 06:08:02 pm
Once or twice for about 10 minutes.

MAX
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: GRIFFGRAPH ELECTION CENTER on: October 24, 2014, 05:46:57 pm
I've updated my counts, but I'm not going to post them until I can see a second set of results to compare against. I noticed a couple of things that seem off, so until I can confirm the results as they stand, I'll be abstaining from an update.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA-AJC: Perdue +2 on: October 24, 2014, 11:10:09 am
This reminds me of the Civitas NC poll from yesterday.

More than anything, I'm just infuriated that GA's going to lose its pink status in the USE poll aggregate over this nonsense. Angry
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA-AJC: Perdue +2 on: October 24, 2014, 11:05:46 am
Furthermore, the poll's showing 50/50 male/female; was 45/55 in 2010. Perdue's leading by 15 among males and Nunn 13 among females.

20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA: Landmark: Tie at 47% on: October 24, 2014, 10:59:31 am
Much better than the last one; realistic.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA-AJC: Perdue +2 on: October 24, 2014, 10:56:58 am
I think you (and the AJC) mean Swafford, and not Hunt? No way she gets 6%. Even Hunt himself will be doing good to get 5, and probably can due to ethics.

The high percentage of people voting L + the high number of undecideds = garbage.

Don't like the result = garbage?

Come on dude.

All the polls are basically in the same ballpark, given MOE. And the libertarian has been polling 4-6% almost uniformly. They likely will NOT get there on Election Day.

It's garbage (also known as an outlier). We have a clear trend here from (five?) polls, and this is showing the complete opposite. 7% of the electorate didn't suddenly re-neg on their choice overnight, with an additional 3-5% flipping from one candidate to another. Swafford isn't getting anywhere near 6%; that's patently ridiculous for a race like this and she'll be lucky to pull 2% when the dust settles. Hunt won't even get that, and there's a lot more at work in that race to make such a thing possible.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA-AJC: Perdue +2 on: October 24, 2014, 10:49:03 am
I think you (and the AJC) mean Swafford, and not Hunt? No way she gets 6%. Even Hunt himself will be doing good to get 5, and probably can due to ethics.

The high percentage of people voting L + the high number of undecideds = garbage.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / GA-AJC: Deal +5 on: October 24, 2014, 10:45:49 am
Nonsense; too many undecideds.

Deal 46
Carter 41
Hunt 5

Link
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Official Obama 2.0 Approval Ratings Thread on: October 24, 2014, 10:22:45 am
Quote
“The Georgia electorate appears to be the most pro-Obama group of likely voters in the 11 states CNN has surveyed this fall,” [CNN Director Keating]Holland said. “That’s not saying much — Obama’s approval rating among Georgia likely voters is only 44%. But that’s still better than the high-30s he gets in states like Iowa and new Hampshire, not to mention the low 30s in Kansas and Alaska.”

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/politics/cnn-poll-georgia/index.html

Despite it falling dramatically in almost all battleground states and most others as well, Obama's approval rating remains virtually untouched in Georgia, of all places. Thanks, growing black electorate! If Georgia weren't so inelastic, I bet Obama would be down here campaigning for Nunn and Carter. He's literally been phoning it in though, by calling into black radio stations in ATL to support them.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: GA: CNN/ORC: Nunn leads general & runoff on: October 24, 2014, 09:03:08 am
I really don't see the Libertarian doing all that well in this race. It's possible that the Libertarian in the Governor's race hits 5%, but here...she's underwhelming, not impressive, ideologically-divided (not a Rand Paul Libertarian), and this contest is increasingly becoming known as one that's coming down to the wire. Fewer people will waste their votes here, I believe. She might hit 2%, but we'll see.

It's also worth noting that we're almost out of undecideds at this point, and a good chunk - a majority - have been breaking in Nunn's direction according to the polls. Yes, this defies the trends and playing field we usually see in Georgia, but so does this entire campaign and election cycle. I don't see why she can't keep up the momentum with the ones that are left at this point.
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