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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Altsomn Stmarken's Office. (New face! Yay!) on: Today at 11:16:41 pm
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Public Office of the Bore/BK Administration (The Cabinet) on: Today at 11:12:47 pm
I'm perfectly proud to be a goon and a crony, thank you very much!
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris and Windjammer Senate tracker (now a more qualitative analysis of activity) on: Today at 10:49:18 pm
Are we really going to start citing IRC commentary on the forum on a regular basis? Do I need to publish the convo in question so we can all be aware of what was said?

This had all calmed down until you posted a 500-word dissertation (presumably free of any emotional investment), sawx, and now you're going after windjammer (and me again?) by using what I am from here on out going to refer as "windjamming" (where fingers are jammed into the wind in an attempt to discredit someone based on a perceived weakness or character flaw that is not currently applicable; very comparable to gaslighting and/or the tactic that Fox uses to tell perfectly calm guests to "calm down").



Statistics are not controversial by nature. Windjammer has made it clear that he's going to keep posting them along with Cris, as they originally intended. I've advise everyone who doesn't like what a particular set of stats have to say to do what I do and not acknowledge them, rather than getting all up in arms about it each time a new set of them is released showing something that isn't liked.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Oval Office (Lumine/SJoyce Administration) (Au Revoir!) on: Today at 08:07:49 pm
Well, you survived, and I suppose a congratulations is in order for that!
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Winter 2015 National Convention in Buffalo, NY on: Today at 08:05:22 pm
Chair
[ x ] Lief

Vice Chair
[ x ] Barnes
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senator Polnut - Prison Reform Committee. on: March 05, 2015, 11:39:23 pm
I'm not attacking his skills at all. I'm just saying - there are some clear flaws (even on the single metric he used) that I've managed to diagnose that shouldn't be dismissed with juvenile red herrings of "Well why don't you make one?"

Well what else needs to be said? A strawman was basically set up by saying "well this metric doesn't measure everything", which was never the claim in the first place. It stands to reason that if you want a different measurement, then it should be created: I don't know why it falls on windjammer to "correct" his measurements by doing everybody's jobs for them and showing what they wish to be shown.

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several people proceeded to lose their sh!t when Maxwell, of all people, expressed incredulity over that metric.

I'm not sure what this means. lol. But when windjammer showed me, the incredulity left my system.

Uh, it's to say that you're not in the party of the individual who posted it nor the one that seems to be getting so antsy over what was posted, so it should be viewed as more legitimate.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senator Polnut - Prison Reform Committee. on: March 05, 2015, 10:37:03 pm
I'd like to also demonstrate my disappointment with Griffin, and while I understand and sympathize with his instinct to defend his fellow party member, you gotta admit when your friends fyck up - especially when certain members of the Senate simply are there for the "aye" or "nay". I'm disappointed that windjammer has decided to defend his tracker that needed work as accurate, and I'm disappointed that Griffin is going along with it and defending it.

He didn't fyck up - he posted a simple measurement that was an indicator of one thing that on its own is objectively true, and several people proceeded to lose their sh!t when Maxwell, of all people, expressed incredulity over that metric. If people want to create trackers that evaluate how many words of debate by each member has occurred, how many of this or how many of that by each member has been created/missed/issued, then that's fine, but just because any one of those fails to take into account 100% of everything doesn't mean it is inaccurate.

I stand by my statement, which applies in all circumstances, at all times throughout the game and on all occasions. In this particular occasion and with this particular metric, TPP looks bad in the formal process through which legislation is adopted - whether you talk until you're blue in the face while something is being debated is rather irrelevant if you're not there to cast a ballot in favor or against something once it's up for a vote - and that the people associated with the party will likely defend it, and the people who are not will likely attack it. It wasn't that long ago that these roles were literally reversed. Let's please not try to dress this up in some sort of nobility or make it a crusade: it is what it is. Maybe another metric will show a different picture: I say produce it, rather than attacking the one others worked hard to produce.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should Constantinople be returned to the Greeks on: March 05, 2015, 09:15:13 pm
Yes, throw the Turkish bums out
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Harrison Ford seriously injured in plane crash on: March 05, 2015, 08:57:23 pm
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Porcupine: At-Large Senator Special Election Debate on: March 05, 2015, 08:51:14 pm
To all candidates: While this is just a game, none of us run simply for the sake of running (or shouldn't at least). So that being said, how do each of you justify your candidacy in this election? What problem(s) do you seek to ameliorate, and what makes you superlatively qualified for this seat? How do you plan to contribute to the institution that is the Senate of Atlasia?

Thank you very much for holding this forum, and thanks for the question. I believe my candidacy is justified based on the fact that for many Atlasians, there would have been a very limited series of choices otherwise. That, of course, is not why I'm running, but it is worth considering. With that being said, I wanted to be sure that Atlasians had someone to consider who has a tried and tested history of being active in this game and in government, someone who possesses the skills to organize on their behalf, and someone who from day one can be just as engaged in the affairs of the Senate as its most senior Senator.

In regards to problems facing the country, I keep being reminded of the nature of terrorism that threatens us. This was not an issue that was heavily on my mind upon entering the race, but I can clearly see now that it is of dire concern. The same - in terms of lack of attention paid to it - could be said about our current government, which seems to be doing all of zilch in regards to taking proactive steps against its occurrence. As Senator, I will introduce legislation that ensures cross-regional cooperation on the matter can occur, that regions and the federal government have access to the intelligence resources that they need, and will do so in a libertarian-friendly way that ensures our civil liberties are not encroached upon.

One other issue that troubles me - from a game mechanics standpoint more than anything else - is the nature of activity. I cannot say with absolute certainty that any reforms that further ensure activity is maintained by our elected officers will pass in the coming term, but I can at the very least be a part of the solution by occupying 10% of the Senate.

Having served one term prior and electing more than a dozen different Senators/watching their progression and interaction carefully over four terms as Chair makes me qualified to return to the body I once inhabited. While I was never the micro-manager like some people made me out to be with respect to the Senate and how individual members of my party voted, it would be safe to say that I have occasionally been involved with the body's affairs when I felt it absolutely justified and therefore have had a consistent presence of sorts in its workings.
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Harrison Ford seriously injured in plane crash on: March 05, 2015, 07:11:55 pm
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Actor Harrison Ford was seriously injured Thursday when a vintage World War II training plane he was piloting crash landed on a Mar Vista, California, golf course.

The actor was stabilized and taken to a hospital. Sources said he sustained cuts to his head. There was no word on other injuries or what caused the plane to crash. It appeared he was flying solo.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/harrison-ford-injured-plane-crash-n318301

12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris and Windjammer Senate tracker on: March 05, 2015, 05:40:38 pm
Look, this isn't anything new...whichever party or group has inactive officeholders is going to duck and dodge claims that it matters, attempt to splice any data-points provided by claiming exceptions and disagreements in how it is presented, and even ultimately try to portray themselves as victims who are being unfairly criticized; everyone else is going to have a problem with it. Get over it.

Don't try to dress inactivity up as some sort of noble achievement or otherwise excuse it because you like the person, and surely don't try to paint yourself as a victim. This game doesn't work when people don't show up - period. The notion that if you call this sort of stuff out that people won't want to play anymore is akin to saying that a tree will die if a strong storm blows through and knocks off all the dead branches. There will always be others who are willing to do the job diligence waiting in the wings.

I wonder how my campaign would go if I promised to vote just half the time - would that be an issue for anyone? Huh It's really embarrassing to watch people get up-in-arms about a simple set of scores being posted to the forum.

You're the last person in Atlasia who should be accusing people of trying to make themselves out to be victims. 

I know you've been wanting to argue with me as of late, but I'm simply going to have to forfeit the opportunity like you did multiple Senate tenures, seeing as how I wouldn't possibly know which X I'd be debating beforehand!
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris and Windjammer Senate tracker on: March 05, 2015, 05:04:51 pm
Look, this isn't anything new...whichever party or group has inactive officeholders is going to duck and dodge claims that it matters, attempt to splice any data-points provided by claiming exceptions and disagreements in how it is presented, and even ultimately try to portray themselves as victims who are being unfairly criticized; everyone else is going to have a problem with it. Get over it.

Don't try to dress inactivity up as some sort of noble achievement or otherwise excuse it because you like the person, and surely don't try to paint yourself as a victim. This game doesn't work when people don't show up - period. The notion that if you call this sort of stuff out that people won't want to play anymore is akin to saying that a tree will die if a strong storm blows through and knocks off all the dead branches. There will always be others who are willing to do the job diligence waiting in the wings.

I wonder how my campaign would go if I promised to vote just half the time - would that be an issue for anyone? Huh It's really embarrassing to watch people get up-in-arms about a simple set of scores being posted to the forum.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Griffin's Third Annual "Let's Run in a Feb/Mar At-Large Sen. Special Election"! on: March 05, 2015, 03:41:19 pm
Thank you. Now, if I may ask, what is your view on what Atlasia should do or shouldn't do regarding deepening crisis in Iraq, as well as threat of Russia and Iran unilatery increasing their oil production?

First, Iraq. This came up the last time I was in the Senate. I am a non-interventionist with respect to ground troops or a permanent presence in the Iraqi quagmire. We have wasted too many lives and too much money on a part of the world that has no inclination to help itself out of its current situation. At the very best, we can only guarantee stability for the length of time that we remain in the region sacrificing our men and women in uniform, and I have no interest in doing so. While the players in each of the three fragments at the moment are not ideal, the fragmentation of the country long-term is probably better for peace than maintaining a colonial series of boundaries that keep sectarian strife amplified within the confines of an unnatural territory.

In regards to the oil situation, it is my understanding the RL sanctions that exist on Iranian and Russian oil are not present here (correct me if I'm wrong?). As such, I do not expect much trouble in the coming months in so far as the Saudis do not decide to jump into the foray in an attempt to cripple the North American energy market (which would likewise harm not only us, but the Russians and Iranians as well). Long-term and has already been the focus of Atlasian policy for some time, we must further seek to insulate ourselves from this reckless substance by aiming for complete energy independence. I would be very interesting in seeing what the current figures in terms of percentage of energy derived domestically and the sources for that energy look like before I can provide a more detailed response. Obviously and even with total energy independence, the oil markets can have auxiliary economic effects for us and the situation will need to be carefully monitored day by day for any new developments on that front.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I want a debate on: March 05, 2015, 02:56:18 pm
If I win in TPP's primary, then I would take part as well. I would even let a Labour member moderate the debate if you want to!

You could go ahead and join in now, seeing as how you entered the race as an independent...
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Democratic-Republican Party Convention, February 2015 on: March 05, 2015, 02:55:25 pm
I'm not sure if this is still open, but I'd like to ask for the Democratic-Republican Party's nomination in the upcoming at-large Senate special election and to be given the time to speak to the convention.

I am in no actual position of authority, but I would like to extend the invitation to Adam to speak at this convention.

I appreciate the invitation, and I suppose I'll wait until the party speaks on it one way or another.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Izvestia Survey: Regions on: March 05, 2015, 02:30:28 pm
Wow look at the change we've seen!

     Public opinion on this issue has changed quite a bit over the years. I remember before consolidation, there was the efforts to eliminate the regional Senate seats and the universalist movement in 2008/2009.

They've returned to the general 65/35 against that they were before the push and public narrative for consolidation began in 2013. It's always amazed me how malleable and transient public opinion on important matters truly is in this game. Tongue
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Griffin's Third Annual "Let's Run in a Feb/Mar At-Large Sen. Special Election"! on: March 05, 2015, 02:24:37 pm
What are your views on the external political situation?



Could you be more specific? Are you referring to foreign affairs and if so, a specific situation or conflict; or perhaps the recent round of terrorist activity?

Terrorist activity was of external nature Tongue

Yeah, I see someone is not reading official paper carefully...

No, I've been keeping up on affairs quite diligently, but the term "external political situation" is a rather strange and broad phrase that made me unsure as to the question being asked of me, especially when there are so many different news-worthy events as of late (with the hefty sum of them being "external" either in a domestic terrorist sense or a foreign sense - Iraq, PMA, foreign leaders' responses to the new administration, etc). Those are all "external" and "political" in one sense or another.

Assuming you mean the domestic terrorism we're facing and not ISIS, it seems that we are losing control of the situation bit-by-bit, which is worrisome to me. I think the death tolls speak for themselves. By last count, I saw we had apprehended 12 of these individuals, yet the attacks keep coming. Deeply disturbing, if you ask me, and it speaks to a trend that they are more organized than perhaps was previously thought. As I told IBDD privately in recent days, I applaud Governor Simfan's insistence on not negotiating with terrorists. I do, however, worry about the precedent that is set by cutting off an entire state from the rest of the Union as he did with Idaho.

Ultimately, I do not think we as a government were ready for such an series of attacks from within, which might be as easily classified as internal. Tongue I would highly recommend that regional governments collaborate with one another more to handle these situations, as there have been instances of violence occurring in a generally-cohesive region along the Pacific-Midwest border. In addition, our federal government needs to be prepared to enact emergency funding mechanisms to authorize additional on-the-ground law enforcement, intelligence/counter-intelligence and proactive responses (however, we must be careful not to violate the basic rights of the citizens within these areas). If such legislation is not introduced and on the floor by the time this special election ends (to my knowledge, there has not been), I will sponsor the needed actions if elected.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Griffin's Third Annual "Let's Run in a Feb/Mar At-Large Sen. Special Election"! on: March 05, 2015, 12:40:06 pm
What are your views on the external political situation?



Could you be more specific? Are you referring to foreign affairs and if so, a specific situation or conflict; or perhaps the recent round of terrorist activity?
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Griffin's Third Annual "Let's Run in a Feb/Mar At-Large Sen. Special Election"! on: March 05, 2015, 12:33:59 pm
CLARENCE APPRECIATION WEEK

I would like to take a moment and recognize Atlasian Citizen Clarence's receipt of the The Order of the Silver Star of Atlasia for his continued service to the country over the years. In addition, Atlasia should move to recognize this week as Clarence Appreciation Week; as such, I have changed my avatar in a show of solidarity with Clarence and the idea.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I want a debate on: March 05, 2015, 11:47:24 am
I could do it.

I would be amenable to that.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Izvestia Survey: Vice Presidency on: March 04, 2015, 07:24:48 pm
No, because how else would unity tickets be possible?
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Getting old........ on: March 04, 2015, 05:16:47 pm
Clarence, I hope you don't leave us. Sad The others are right, though: Dragon Dictate is a great piece of software for using a microphone to type everything you say. I've used it a lot as a writer and while I don't use it regularly now (because I usually speak faster than I think Wink ), it's very accurate and actually learns from you. And if you need help getting a free copy of it, just send me a PM...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXXvJ-4Abbc
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Madeleine's stay in a mental hospital, by the numbers (attention whoring) on: March 04, 2015, 05:14:38 pm
I'm terribly sorry to hear about this, but I hope everything goes well going forward.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I want a debate on: March 04, 2015, 05:07:33 pm
I'm in for a debate.

Glorious news! Now we'll see about the others.
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