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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: November 20, 2014, 06:38:41 am
On it goes...

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2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who do you support in the raging sexism battle in the Absurdity thread? on: November 20, 2014, 05:34:54 am
It should surprise nobody that I voted for Gustaf.

I admit to some reservations about the haughty attitude with which he tends to wage his battles, but his position on feminism is muy righteous (and does not remotely entail any of the pitfalls that HD and memphis imagine).

I am a bit of an asshole, I'll grant you that, but a lot of what people take offense at in my posts is just a form of irony. I'm far from as arrogant as people perceive me.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who do you support in the raging sexism battle in the Absurdity thread? on: November 20, 2014, 05:32:31 am
Support hockeydude/memphis against the patriarchal oppressor Gustaf who doesn't want anyone talking to his women.

While it's true I don't want my women talking to people in general, having them to talk to guys like them actually benefits me, since I look nicer by comparison. Makes my life easier. That of course assumes it is in a public space so I don't have to worry about their safety. I wouldn't inflict a one-on-one conversation with either of them even on a woman I dislike.

This post reeks of sexism, Gustaf.  I wonder how your girlfriend feels that you dont trust her? 

I would feel belittled and untrusted by such a sentiment.

It also gives the impression that you are insecure.

Of course you might be exaggerating your real beliefs here, so I give you the benefit of the doubt.

Not sure what you're referring to here but that post was obviously a joke. Which makes it amusing that Memphis decided to put an out of context quote from it in his signature. Cheesy

Gramps, please elaborate on how I am like the taliban again? They're just as fine with sexual abuse of women as you are, you know!
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How much do you currently weigh? on: November 20, 2014, 05:03:54 am
I think I gained a bit and is probably at 170 in weird American terms.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who do you support in the raging sexism battle in the Absurdity thread? on: November 17, 2014, 06:20:44 pm
God, it's like the Iran-Iraq War between Gustaf and Memphis.

Do I get to be Iraq?
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who do you support in the raging sexism battle in the Absurdity thread? on: November 17, 2014, 03:33:58 pm
I think anyone voting in a poll about it likely cares more than I do. Tongue

Besides, the "discussion" seems over. Maybe next time they will stand up for their sexism in the actual discussion rather then run for the safety of a bad post mine or whatever.

Well it looks like you're winning anyway. I hereby proclaim this forum an evil SJW feminazi land opposed to all enlightened and honest defenders of Men's Rights TM! Congrats

Woho! Soon we shall rule the world, outlawing beer, baseball, porn and nascar.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who do you support in the raging sexism battle in the Absurdity thread? on: November 17, 2014, 03:32:52 pm
Support hockeydude/memphis against the patriarchal oppressor Gustaf who doesn't want anyone talking to his women.

While it's true I don't want my women talking to people in general, having them to talk to guys like them actually benefits me, since I look nicer by comparison. Makes my life easier. That of course assumes it is in a public space so I don't have to worry about their safety. I wouldn't inflict a one-on-one conversation with either of them even on a woman I dislike.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who do you support in the raging sexism battle in the Absurdity thread? on: November 17, 2014, 03:13:14 pm
I think anyone voting in a poll about it likely cares more than I do. Tongue

Besides, the "discussion" seems over. Maybe next time they will stand up for their sexism in the actual discussion rather then run for the safety of a bad post mine or whatever.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - Lowborn Egoism Herrings on: November 17, 2014, 07:13:40 am
My GF was hit by a car earlier today.  Not as serious as it could be– we're still waiting on MRI results but probably nothing broken?– but the whole incident was a shocking display of selfishness and inhumanity on the part of the driver and I have been quaking with rage all day.

Will have much more to say about this later.

This happened to me during the Summer. Scary as hell. Glad to hear she's ok though.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 17, 2014, 07:06:15 am
Petition to rename this thread "The Gustaf-Memphis-Hockeydude Institute of Perpetual Arguing"

Cheesy

I'll probably stop since I'm honestly confused now. If Memphis agrees that it's insane to greet people on the streets of New York then why is he claiming that catcalling in a video from New York is perfectly normal greeting? I don't get it.

I'm well aware that people in rural villages say hi to each other in the street and that there are cultural differences. But we weren't talking about that scenario here.

Okay if someone says "How are you doing?", it's a greeting. If someone says "Hey sexy, nice tits." it's sexual harassment.

Sometimes the context of the former statement implies the message of the latter. It obviously depends on the situation.

Of course, but it's not a good idea to assume that everyone who says that latter statement is implying the former.

Is that actually happening here though? If so, perhaps I missed a crucial point. As far as I can tell, Gustaf is referring to the extreme examples in the video... which I haven't watched because it seemed like clickbait garbage but of which I am familiar with and have observed in person.

Obviously like at least 90% of the time (note: completely arbitrary percentage I just came up with) it's fine to say "hi, how are you?" to a stranger - although I think it's a bit weird to do so while passing in the street, unless you make some kind of previous acknowledgement of each other's presence (eye contact, etc.). As someone who is in NYC on an almost weekly basis, I could probably count on one hand the amount of times I've talked to a complete stranger while walking in the street. Admittedly, I rarely have an interest in talking to people I don't know and just like to do my own thing.

Yeah I'm not referring to two people greeting each other in the street since that never happens in the example that was discussed. If a man ogles a passing woman in the street and says "how are you doin'?" he obviously isn't "greeting" her. Some people are just deliberately obtuse in order to rail against feminism.

As I noted in my first response I have nothing against discussing it in the thread but the Atlas sexists were too cowardly to do that. Either way, I never had much respect for this thread anyway though. It's used mostly for stuff like this, people trying to put down those they disagree with while avoiding actual argumentation.
11  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Sweden Considering Sexism Labels For Video Games on: November 16, 2014, 05:55:43 pm
Stupid... All video games are sexist (and we love them for it)

Eh. You should probably keep to posting stupid links, buddy.

This seems a bit pointless, but also seems very harmless.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Romania 2014 - 2/16 November 2014 on: November 16, 2014, 04:23:27 pm
Romanian friends tell me parties do parallell counts that are usually faster than the official ones due to some bureaucratic rules around the system.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Romania 2014 - 2/16 November 2014 on: November 16, 2014, 04:17:39 pm
I think there is something fishy. All exit polls are tied and not a single result has been made public. This makes no sense to me.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Romania 2014 - 2/16 November 2014 on: November 16, 2014, 03:40:45 pm
Here is a website where supposedly results will turn up eventually.

http://www.gandul.info/rezultate-alegeri-prezidentiale-2014-primele-exit-polluri-publicate-diferente-mici-intre-iohannis-si-ponta-13558244.html

One of my friends queued for 4 hours to vote. Another friend has been in line for hours and might not get to. Some people had to wait for 10 hours. Voters who got turned away rioted in Paris and Torino apparently and got dispersed by local police with water cannons and stuff. Rumours about election fraud, of course. There is fear this might get ugly.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: November 2014 Special At-large Senate Election on: November 16, 2014, 02:13:31 pm



AT-LARGE SENATE (to fill one vacancy)


[ 1 ] Bacon King of Oceania
The People's Party



[ 2 ] Cris of Kansas
Federalist Party



[ 3 ] Poirot of New York
Independent



[ 4 ] rpryor03 of New Jersey
National Party



[ 5 ] SomebodyWhoExists of Quebec
Labor Party



16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 16, 2014, 01:05:04 pm
Petition to rename this thread "The Gustaf-Memphis-Hockeydude Institute of Perpetual Arguing"

Cheesy

I'll probably stop since I'm honestly confused now. If Memphis agrees that it's insane to greet people on the streets of New York then why is he claiming that catcalling in a video from New York is perfectly normal greeting? I don't get it.

I'm well aware that people in rural villages say hi to each other in the street and that there are cultural differences. But we weren't talking about that scenario here.
17  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Hello on: November 15, 2014, 08:08:08 am
Just do keep in mind that is a very right-leaning forum. And do yourself a favor and go ahead and delete any posts you might have ever made on any separate forums devoted to prostitution enthusiasts.

Good point, lest you be cast to the wolves.  I'd go further and say that you would do well to not even hint at the idea that you find a woman attractive, or that you would ever be interested in courting one, you domineering, misogynist swine.
Isn't it funny that virgin neckbeards have embraced a pseudo-feminist culture? I guess they think it'll get them laid one day.
Pro tip: Don't join a forum and then insult and attack one of its best members as something they are clearly not while completely missing the joke.

This is a bit illogical since being a virgin neckbeard correlates positively with misogyny.

cite?

Common prejudice of course. Wink
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 15, 2014, 06:02:08 am
Yeah, and as for HockeyDude I guess he just said that a brute can't be expected to talk to a woman but rather needs to rape them to reproduce. Or a slightly dressed up version of that sentiment. Either way, I don't think I'll bother responding to it...

How do you equate using pickup lines with rape? 

I said that you can treat women as human beings and you said we can't expect a brute to get laid doing that. I thought that was an appropriate time to point out one of the underlying issues of this whole discussion, since you made it a bit more explicit.

See, in the real world the brutes you talk about often do move on to other means when their pickup line failed to work. But, hey, it's all about reproduction right?
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 15, 2014, 06:00:15 am
I have never watched Friends, but I do caution you against trying to create reality around tv. Tv is not reality. I had no intention of being condescending. As I said, your English is excellent. I don't even come close to it in a second language, and I'm sincerely very impressed by your language skills. As it happens though, I don't "holler" at anybody. I'm not a hillbilly, and I don't shout at people. I am quite aware that how one says anything has a great effect on the meaning. Perhaps you're imagining a sinister tone where none exists. I do greet men from time to time in passing as well. And people greet me too. As I said, it's merely customary, usually as two people walking in opposite directions pass one another, and primarily exists to acknowledge the other person because walking right by like somebody else doesn't exist at all feels slightly rude.  Perhaps you are unaware that minor issues of etiquette vary from place to place? I'm sorry you live in a county where people (apparently) assume that a cursory greeting implies something underhanded.  And, frankly, I'm sorry other people have to live in the same country as you because you feel the same way. What an awful way to go through life.

Ok, I'll have to assume that you're trolling now. I actually have been to NYC as well as (I suspect) way more countries than you have. You sound completely disconnected from reality but I can assure you that the normal thing is not for people to do this. At least not in actual cities.

If you honestly think what's going on in that video is people greeting each other in passing so as to acknowledge each other's existence, well...I don't know what to say. I guess if you travel more you'll realize this to be untrue?
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 14, 2014, 10:52:51 pm
Yeah, and as for HockeyDude I guess he just said that a brute can't be expected to talk to a woman but rather needs to rape them to reproduce. Or a slightly dressed up version of that sentiment. Either way, I don't think I'll bother responding to it...
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 14, 2014, 10:30:01 pm
Oh, lord. Where to begin?

Well, Memphis, thanks for the attempt to be condescending about the only thing where you can claim superiority over me - English is indeed not my native language. In spite of this, I'm aware that the phrase "how are you doing" can be a form of greeting. I do use it myself with my international friends on a weekly basis.

Even though you are a native speaker you seem to not know much about how to interact with women in English. This is not surprising given the rest of your posts. It may surprise you to know that the phrase in question, far from being a mere harmless greeting, typically carries sexually suggestive connotations. For a classic pop culture example see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wkqM27z2E

Not sure if you caught that show in Tennessee, but I'm not a native speaker.

Also, I'm disappointed you did not respond to my other link. How often do you casually holler at dudes passing you by in the street asking how they're doin'?
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 14, 2014, 08:57:16 am
memphis, you misogynist pig, quit arguing with the holy one - Gustaf, Champion of women everywhere.  Roll Eyes

I wouldn't exactly call that 'arguing', it's more delusional non sequiturs. I'll grant that in comparison to your non-contributions it at least approaches an argument though.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 14, 2014, 08:56:16 am
Saying how are you doing to a woman on the street is not flirting. It's not a flirting type of situation. It's an assertion of power in allowing yourself to invade someone's private space without having to care about their opinion on it.

What?

The pearl-clutching Gustaf strikes again.

His views on reproduction are, frankly, horrifying and omnicidal.  

My views on reproduction? What on Earth are you talking about?

I understand you guys don't get it but I was pointing out the difference between flirting with someone at a bar, for example, and hollering at women in the street.

It never ceases to entertain me that so many American men seem to think that the only working and reasonable way of interacting with women is some sort of borderline sexual harassment. I do just fine acting like a normal human being. Maybe you should try it sometimes.

It's just a hyperbolic joke, Pearl, that if we all followed your guidelines when it came to flirting that the birth rate would drop to extinction levels.  Most forms of socially acceptable flirting certainly seem to horrify you.  

That literally makes no sense. You think most babies are born because men yell sexual abuse at women in streets?

I haven't gone more than a week or so without having sex in the last couple of years and I've never engaged in any of the type of sexual harassment you think is so important to defend.

See, it's actually perfectly possible to engage with women as human beings and then have sex with them. You should give it a try just once. Smiley
Because saying "How are you doing" to a woman is sexual harassment. Roll Eyes Frankly, there is nothing in the world more demeaning and less like treating women as human beings than putting them in a carbonite box with a fragile label on it. People are allowed to greet other people. It's a simple courtesy, and usually doesn't have any implied sexual undertones whatsoever.  Is everybody in Scandinavia so impersonal and unfriendly?

Lol. Yeah, men are constantly yelling "how are you doing!" to other men walking by their construction sites. Your MRA nonsense isn't convincing anyone Memphis.

What's happening in that video is not greeting. If you didn't hate women and their rights so much it'd be pretty obvious to you.

I'll admit I usually don't shout random comments at strangers in the street and many non-Swedish women I've talked to greatly appreciate that they can feel safer and more comfortable walking the streets of Stockholm compared to their home countries. If you had any empathy, maybe you'd understand that.

(I'll also note, before complaints start coming in, that yes, it'd make more sense to have this discussion in the actual thread. But you might notice that in their typical cowardly fashion none of these guys actually engaged with responding to any of the analysis in the thread in question)

HockeyDude, you're not making much sense. If it's such a great thing to catcall then what is your reason for not doing it? I also notice that you apparently abandoned your line of argument altogether. You seemed to think that I was opposed to standard flirting to the point where it'd (hyperbolically, yes) threaten human reproduction, yet you don't yourself do any of the things I oppose? Are you saying you're a prude? Shocked
You didn't say shout. You said say. There is an enormous difference in those two words. People do greet each other frequently in passing where I live. Not doing so is a little bit awkward. Making such a big deal about it is completely insane.

Lol what. You realize the woman isn't greeting any of these people? And it's not a fricking greeting even in a unilateral sense. Then again, you think men are discriminated against in the workplace and have a hard time getting high-paying jobs compared to women so maybe in your alternate reality men frequently say "how are you doin'" in suggestive voices to other dudes walking past them. As a little friendly greeting.

Memphis must be one of few people on whom this joke is completely lost since he thinks this is perfectly normal behaviour: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/dudes-greeting-dudes
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is Mark Corrigan an Atlas poster? on: November 14, 2014, 06:21:32 am
I once picked up a girl by talking about Tony Abbott. Very Atlas moment.
25  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sexual harassment? on: November 14, 2014, 05:22:37 am
This thread was hard for me to understand.  I once had my car overheat and I pulled over... And no less than 10 people pulled over asking if I needed help... Including a young woman that was alone. She was maybe 18.

People greet each other on the sidewalks here... Or at least smile.  You can always chat with people.

The thought that this would be harassment is foreign.  No wonder people here fear New York.

How is that comparable? If someone pull over because there is an issue with their car it actually is friendly (or can be at least) to ask what's up. That's different from catcalling.
The point is the young woman felt safe and comfortable,enough to offer assistance to an unknown male stranger much bigger than her, at night, on the side of the road.

So yeah... It is relevant here.

Um. But she may have looked at you and decided you were not dangerous. This isn't about how women in New York do not dare to approach any strange men. It's about men harassing women.
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