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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas vs. AAD? on: July 28, 2015, 09:01:12 am
It perplexes me that no one points out the obvious - of course if Atlas was also run as a private forum, inaccessible to the general public, it would also feature fewer socks and superhacks. Then again, if Atlas was run that way AAD probably wouldn't exist in the first place.

It is fundamentally parasitic in nature and reaps some benefits from that state of affairs but that isn't due to any intrinsic advantages.
2  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Atlas Moderation in April - 0.22% Mod Rate. You be the Mod Poll on: July 26, 2015, 11:53:18 am
In number 12 the only moderation was to remove the sentence about how Liberals need to learn how to compromise. Which does come off as trolling in the context (which was about banning people on food stamps from going to movie theatres). I still wouldn't have moderated that, but again just providing some context.
3  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Atlas Moderation in April - 0.22% Mod Rate. You be the Mod Poll on: July 26, 2015, 11:48:15 am
For the record - I see lots of people are in outrage over Nr. 6. The reason for moderation was that it was thread necromancy - someone posting an opinion in a thread that was like a year old. We generally try to discourage that if there isn't a good reason and this was just adding a random opinion to a dead thread. You may still disagree with it of course, but I thought the context should be noted.
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Leip, one of your mods is encouraging people to kill themselves. on: July 25, 2015, 06:05:57 am
People think this is the same as the Teddy thing are being dishonest and/or moronic. Stupid arguments by invalid analogy has really become a plague on this forum.
5  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: WTF is going on on: July 24, 2015, 07:30:03 am
Can't you just ask one of your colleagues to brief you?

It's kind of difficult to know where to turn when it seems like some of them are banned and anyone can be hacked. Tongue

From what I've understood, forum security is fine unless you have an easily guessable security question, so don't worry about that.

The leaks are the results of Tweed manipulating BK (who was in a bad mental shape) into giving him his password.

Yeah, I've caught up now. Remember that I've been gone so long that I also missed the Sawx+Snowstalker stuff so there was a lot all at once for me.

I was briefly concerned about the hack attempts (which btw, from my reading, is still a real issue, just unrelated to the Tweed thing - another AADer seems to have attempted to hack people on here) but then I realized I don't really know my password for AAD myself which means it certainly isn't one I use anywhere else. Tongue
6  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: WTF is going on on: July 24, 2015, 06:16:12 am
Can't you just ask one of your colleagues to brief you?

It's kind of difficult to know where to turn when it seems like some of them are banned and anyone can be hacked. Tongue
7  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / WTF is going on on: July 24, 2015, 05:13:25 am
I can't leave this place for a week without some INSANE SUPER DRAMA of which I understand nothing happening. What is going on?
8  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 13, 2015, 09:17:39 am
This thread really oscillates between rather interesting discussion and pure nonsense. Personally I find prostitution a pretty tricky issue. I find it difficult to argue on principle for not allowing it but it does strike me as a pretty bad thing in a bunch of ways. I tend to end up leaning in favour of something like the Swedish stance on it but I'm not sure. (Btw, I object to the term Scandinavian/Nordic model - the difference between say Sweden and Denmark on this is huge).
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: looks like Tsipras has folded on: July 13, 2015, 07:48:04 am
There is a lot of posturing on both sides that I strongly disagree with.

1. Jfern keep harping on about banks. Little of Greek debt is to any banks so they have no stake in this anymore. This is because we bailed them out and put the debt on tax payers. Which I think was wrong, in agreement with what traindistance posted. However, that means that the ship has sailed on punishing irresponsible creditors. The people who would now be punished by forgiving Greek debt made the mistake of being nice enough to the Greeks to give them a haircut on the debt and move in to guarantee it. So that morality tale has no point now.

2. The Greek people will suffer and that suffering should not be treated in a flippant manner. However, as Ag and others have pointed out, they will suffer under any outcome that isn't just giving them lots of money for free. And that one was never gonna happen.

3. Austerity can be debated back and forth forever but it isn't as clearly useless as some would like to think (see the Baltics for instance).

4. Greece isn't really a classic case of the austerity debate. For starters, the classic Keynesian idea is that a government in a recession should borrow money to prop up demand. Greece can't borrow money because no one will lend them any because they fcked up their finances. Much of the underlying problem is really, really poor political and economic institutions controlled by interest groups who have managed to block any reform. This reform is not some neo-liberal evil. Some of it may well be from the perspective of the far-left but most of it is just plain economic sense. The fact that Greece has not implemented any reforms is why creditors want to impose on their sovereignty. There is no trust left. And the fact that corrupt Greek institutions refuse reform is why the austerity has ended up hurting the poor and powerless so much. That outcome isn't purely the fault of creditors.

5. So, yes, the EU is being undemocratic (omg shocker), the euro is a disaster and Greece should leave. But that doesn't change any of the above. This outcome is probably the worst one because it will continue this meaningless austerity and continue to prop up the euro. Let's revisit the situation in a year or something.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Eurozone citizens: Did any one of you already withdraw cash from your accounts ? on: July 01, 2015, 08:00:22 am
Yeah, I don't get it. Why would your money be more secure in cash than in an account? If the euro collapses (which isn't very likely) you'll take a hit either way.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: July 01, 2015, 07:58:58 am
DISCLAIMER: I'm making this post more as an apologetic for certain members of my extended family than anything else.

It's possible, probable even, that at some point in the relatively near future the principle that couples should have access to civil marriage regardless of the combination of their sexes will be widely understood to be grounded on first principles in such a way that nobody can argue otherwise in good faith. At that point we'll indeed be able to say that people who oppose same-sex marriage are a distasteful fringe and can't possibly hold their position for well-intentioned reasons. I don't think we've yet reached the point where that grounding on first principles is self-evident or self-explanatory. I kind of hope we do (mostly because I think that if opposition to same-sex marriage becomes completely socially unacceptable then there are people whose opinions and morals I otherwise respect who will feel obliged to come around on it), but I don't think we have. It's still possible for somebody to oppose same-sex marriage and not be a generally bad person.

This is hardly a "one-liner" Tongue
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: What makes a country support/oppose nuclear? on: June 29, 2015, 05:38:34 am
Hysteria over nuclear power kills a lot more people than nuclear power itself.
13  General Politics / Economics / Re: Greece to Leave the Euro Zone on: June 29, 2015, 04:11:49 am
Sorry, but can someone explain…if there is default, does that mean a literal "Grexit", both from the Eurozone and the EU itself the next day?  Or will some kind of legal fiction be created for an interim period, to smooth things over?  For example, with strict capital controls, could the Euros in Greek banks still be considered "Euros" in some fake legal sense, while TPTB figure out what to do, even though it's understood by all that that "Greek Euros" are treated differently from "real Euros"?

Or are we really going to see Greece formally leave the Eurozone (and the EU?) as early as this week?  Huh


With capital controls already in place they kind of are separate right now anyway. Assuming we don't delve into civil war or something ( Tongue ) I expect there will be some time of setting up the new currency.
14  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 29, 2015, 03:54:30 am
Yeah the fact that this guy is still posting and has not been banned just speaks to the utter incompetence of the moderator team on here. You guys are increasingly a bad joke and have to be held responsible for a lot of the decline in quality at this forum.

You are all over the map on bannings Lief.

I'm really not. I support banning people who are obvious trolls who consistently degrade the quality of discussion on this forum and drag threads off topic with their single-issue nonsense rants. I don't support banning people because they waste the moderator's precious times by making a second account or because they say naughty words sometimes. Not that complicated.

Kindly take your fascist attitude to banning posters to your own forum, Lief.

PS: I know that truth does not matter to the whiner faction but I can't recall anyone ever being banned for using naughty words.

On the other hand, both BRTD and Opebo would be obvious candidates for banning under his stated policy.

Dude I know you think you sound sooo intelligent and witty but you're really just embarrassing yourself at this point. Jesus christ.

You think inserting the word fascism into every post about moderation is tedious? I'd be inclined to agree.

Fortunately, having a coherent thinking process I'm not as reliant on a cool image as you are so I'm fine with your little crowd feeling embarrassed. If you ever come up with a substantial argument for anything you posit it'd be interesting to hear though. It's amazing how someone can be so opinionated for years and never go beyond ad hominems on any issue.
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: June 29, 2015, 03:42:10 am
It's a sad indictment of the competence of European politicians (within and outside of Greece) that THIS fcking mess is what we ended up with.

An orderly Grexit 4 years ago would have been infinitely better.
16  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 05:35:49 pm
Yeah the fact that this guy is still posting and has not been banned just speaks to the utter incompetence of the moderator team on here. You guys are increasingly a bad joke and have to be held responsible for a lot of the decline in quality at this forum.

You are all over the map on bannings Lief.

I'm really not. I support banning people who are obvious trolls who consistently degrade the quality of discussion on this forum and drag threads off topic with their single-issue nonsense rants. I don't support banning people because they waste the moderator's precious times by making a second account or because they say naughty words sometimes. Not that complicated.

Kindly take your fascist attitude to banning posters to your own forum, Lief.

PS: I know that truth does not matter to the whiner faction but I can't recall anyone ever being banned for using naughty words.

On the other hand, both BRTD and Opebo would be obvious candidates for banning under his stated policy.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do a majority of white posters on here have any idea what poverty is like? on: June 28, 2015, 10:17:47 am
We have more than a handful of non-white posters? In any case poverty is a curious thing; you and I may well disagree on what it means and in what context, and I myself might disagree with myself on what it means intellectually and personally. Surely you can't have been poor if people weren't out picking coal off slag heaps to survive, right? I maintain, of course, that you have no right to think such thoughts unless they do directly relate to personal experience in some way.

What I will note is that there is a significant difference between short-term problems caused by having no money (which is bitter but usually resolves itself fairly quickly) and the grinding horror of having not quite enough over an extended (and quite possibly permanent) period of time. The two things can be related but are ultimately not the same thing. I would also note that having been poor (no matter how defined) does not confer nobility of spirit or make you a better person.

Just wanted to express agreement with all of the above.
18  General Politics / Economics / Re: How economists think differently from other humans on: June 28, 2015, 10:12:23 am
It's a bit dishonest. Firstly, behavioural economics is not a one-man crusade it's a large field in economics.

Secondly, no economist ever believed everyone was a perfectly rational machine or whatever. The question, which is still an open one, is to what extent these individual idiosyncracies must be taken into account in order for aggregate predictions to work.

1.Richard Thaler said exactly that.  They said he founded the field, not that he's the only person in it.

2.There were all sorts of economic theory that came out of the 'rational person' hypothesis though that behavioral economists are showing don't stand up to scrutiny. This piece mentions a couple of them, especially the 'sunk cost' one.

I'm doing a PhD mostly about behavioural econ - I'm well aware. Tongue


Here may go our anonymity Smiley Our profession is far too small a town for this to be preserved on any forum less inane than the econjobrumors Smiley  

Still, just out of curiosity, are you doing it in Europe or in the US?

Haha, I've stayed away from that one, because every time a friend referenced it, it sounded awful.

I'm in Europe, not the US.
19  General Politics / Economics / Re: How economists think differently from other humans on: June 27, 2015, 03:30:19 am
It's a bit dishonest. Firstly, behavioural economics is not a one-man crusade it's a large field in economics.

Secondly, no economist ever believed everyone was a perfectly rational machine or whatever. The question, which is still an open one, is to what extent these individual idiosyncracies must be taken into account in order for aggregate predictions to work.

1.Richard Thaler said exactly that.  They said he founded the field, not that he's the only person in it.

2.There were all sorts of economic theory that came out of the 'rational person' hypothesis though that behavioral economists are showing don't stand up to scrutiny. This piece mentions a couple of them, especially the 'sunk cost' one.

I'm doing a PhD mostly about behavioural econ - I'm well aware. Tongue

My point is that there is a difference between the behavioural lab experiments and transferring that to aggregate macro variables.

And as AG points out I think Thaler's importance is being a bit inflated in this video.
20  General Politics / Economics / Re: How economists think differently from other humans on: June 26, 2015, 05:08:30 pm
It's a bit dishonest. Firstly, behavioural economics is not a one-man crusade it's a large field in economics.

Secondly, no economist ever believed everyone was a perfectly rational machine or whatever. The question, which is still an open one, is to what extent these individual idiosyncracies must be taken into account in order for aggregate predictions to work.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 11:25:05 am
I encourage everyone to read Scalia's dissent. Hilarious stuff.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 09:17:15 am
Where can one see the actual decision?
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you more Liberal or Conservative then your parents and grandparents on: June 25, 2015, 06:43:37 pm
I'm a bit to the left of my parents on social issues, although that is more in rhetoric and attitudes than in substance.

My grandparents I don't really know. They were probably all more socially conservative.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do a majority of white posters on here have any idea what poverty is like? on: June 25, 2015, 06:39:57 pm
Knowing what it's like is not particularly difficult if one has empathy and isn't ignorant. Of course, experiencing something is a different thing but I don't that is required for basic understanding.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The polls getting it wrong - post notable examples on: June 25, 2015, 05:57:55 pm
In the Swedish euro referendum a couple of polls showed a tie right before it happened. The actual result was a 14% landslide for no. I suspect those polls were basically bought though. Tongue
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