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1476  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 13, 2013, 07:02:19 pm
Can I get any support for 3 and 3, halving both rates with some spending cuts?
1477  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Ids elections on: January 13, 2013, 02:03:38 am
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Duke is on the side of The People. Mess with The People, Ben, and you're messing with Duke.

Good thing Duke never comes early. Wink
1478  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Ids elections on: January 13, 2013, 01:59:15 am
He's like Triple H. You never know what side he's on. *Hint, it's not yours.*
1479  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Ids elections on: January 13, 2013, 01:42:27 am
Senator Duke is not Fed. He is PPP.
1480  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 13, 2013, 01:38:03 am
Speaker vote is over, Duke.
1481  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 13, 2013, 12:32:30 am
:zzz:
1482  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Winfield/Simfan Platform on: January 12, 2013, 03:23:02 pm
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The commemoration of any official, organization, or institution associated with the Confederate States of America (CSA) by state or regional holiday or any other law is prohibited.

Does this extend to Juneteenth?
1483  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jindal: Out, corporate & income tax. In, increased sales tax. on: January 12, 2013, 03:18:18 pm
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Sure, the rich buy luxuries, but they aren't spending every last cent that they get to survive.

If the rich buy luxuries doesn't that mean that they are contributing that much more to the public coffers? Also - how does income tax affect tourists? Sales tax means that everyone who purchases anything in Louisiana pays the tax. Instead of having the residents contribute 100 percent, now you have the tourists contributing a significant proportion - so you're effectively shifting the burden away from residents.

2, there already exists a sales tax in Louisiana. The argument isn't 100 percent income taxes vs 100 percent sales tax. Sales tax isn't going away. So instead of poor people having their paychecks withheld before they even see that money - they are getting to keep their money and only have to pay money when they choose to buy things. The less you spend - the more you save - and the more money you have sitting in your bank account.
1484  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party of Atlasia on: January 12, 2013, 02:52:06 pm
I concur with Goldwater here. Our endorsement should mean something.
1485  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 02:48:26 pm
AYE!
1486  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 02:35:37 pm
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Bill 1.2

IDS Tax Abolition Act of 2013

1. All taxes on individual or corporate income in the Imperial Dominion of the South are repealed, excluding those established in this legislation, for a period of 1 year until January of 2014.
2. A 6% tax on interest and dividends income is established.
3. A 10% tax on any and all gambling winnings, including but not limited to winnings from lotteries, sweepstakes, and games of chance including, but not limited to, bingo, slot machines, keno, and poker is established.
1487  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 02:33:47 pm
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I think that we should just do it for one year and if it doesn't work, then repeal it.

Deal. I'm bringing it up for a vote.
1488  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 02:26:33 pm
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Anyway, so hypothetically speaking, if we eliminate both corporate and income taxes, how do we pay for it? As far as I can tell, no state has a policy like that. We'd have to switch to a consumption tax, and that is inherently something I cannot support. You said a 5% cut across the board. Would that even be possible without upsetting something?

Look at the numbers from Texas. The increased spending and better economy pays for it. Instead of people paying money into income taxes, the same money gets collected in sales taxes.

One year. Give it a chance. If it doesn't work, we can always go back to the way it was.

Revenue, rather then going down - after Texas cut spending, revenue went up. Dramatically. This is despite the fact that Texas has no income tax. Revenue went up, and Texas went from having a deficit to a ten percent budget surplus.

Why? Because more money was collected from the sales tax. Why? Because there were more people spending money. Why? Because they had jobs and could afford to do so. The government gets the same take. We don't lose anything. We do, however, gain a competitive advantage on every other region in atlasia.
1489  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 01:47:43 pm
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See, this is where you are mistaken I think. From what I read, Texas has a franchise tax on corporations.

I'd be fine with that - that effectively acts as a tax on larger businesses while not taxing smaller ones. As worded, our corporate tax hit everyone exactly in the same way - from the small one person business to, say McDonalds. I'm not sure how much the franchise tax generates, but it's small change when compared to what the sales tax generates. Most of the Texas revenues come from sales taxes alone.

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I don't see how doing that would help grow businesses.

You tax them when they get big enough, but you let them grow to the point where they can actually be taxed this much. Most businesses are quite small, under 50 employees.

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I know Texas has seen a boom in business, yes, but it is inconclusive as to whether its all due to the tax policies of things like cheap labor, land, capital, etc.

Texas has relatively cheap labor and land and capital because of their tax policies. Also - in game, we have Texas. So the things that apply to Texas would also apply to us. From what I'm seeing the majority of our boom has come from a large jump in the sales tax receipts, despite the sales tax not increasing. So Texas has successfully transitioned from an income tax tax base to a sales tax tax base.

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But I'm not one to favor eliminating income taxes while keeping our corporate and business rates at 5.8%, which is actually high, to compensate.

Neither am I. I'd like to see both gone. And we wouldn't be eliminating taxes, far from it. We'd simply be shifting how taxes are collected. It would also eliminate much of the reporting requirements on businesses and individuals by eliminating our income tax - less red tape means less overhead needed for compliance.
1490  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: PMRC: Hypothetical Presidential matchups (can't summarise this) on: January 12, 2013, 01:35:50 pm
Cath beats everybody but Marokai. Cath and Marokai are dominant over the second tier. Winfield helps Cath, while Kal helps Marokai.
1491  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 01:16:07 pm
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What will we cut from our budget though? And what effect would it have on our economy to have such a big cut all at once?

We could do across the board cuts.

Given that Texas alone is about a third, we could cut, say 5 percent everywhere else and 20 in Texas. That, plus the 1 percent sales tax rise will bring us level for the year (I expect that we will see a surplus).

The effect would mean that we spend less this year, but we'll have a surplus (and a much larger one), in the next. Everything we cut this year will get put back next year.
1492  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jindal: Out, corporate & income tax. In, increased sales tax. on: January 12, 2013, 11:30:24 am
Germany has eliminated their income tax?
1493  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Jerry for IDS Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 11:19:40 am
Endorsed :b:
1494  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jindal: Out, corporate & income tax. In, increased sales tax. on: January 12, 2013, 11:15:53 am
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That has nothing to do with it and everything to do with LA's terrible roads, terrible public schools and a population that can't handle anything more complicated than boiling crawfish. The only time the rest of the country sets foot there is to get drunk or gamble.

LA changing their laws hurts TX so I can see why you're opposed to it. We can't mug LA residents as much anymore. Sad
1495  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Office of IDS Emperor PiT on: January 12, 2013, 11:02:08 am
So on total revenue of close to 400 billion dollars a year, we'd need to cut about 10 percent and raise the sales tax by a couple percent to eliminate income tax altogether.
1496  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 11:00:14 am
Ok, given that we make nearly 400 billion, spending cuts of 10 percent and a raise in the sales tax of 1 percent will allow us to eliminate income + corporate taxes altogether.
1497  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jindal: Out, corporate & income tax. In, increased sales tax. on: January 12, 2013, 12:09:42 am
Sales tax only is awesome. LA's been getting their lunch eaten by TX.
1498  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2013, 12:06:39 am
If it's only 6 percent right now, we might as well just eliminate it.
1499  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jindal: Out, corporate & income tax. In, increased sales tax. on: January 11, 2013, 07:29:30 pm
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It's as if the different Republican 2016 hopefuls are trying to outdo each other in the evil olympics.

Ooh, that's a new idea. /scribbles down. 
1500  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Dereich for the IDS on: January 11, 2013, 08:50:54 am
Endorsed! Smiley
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