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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Standing by my prediction that democrats will gain seats in the senate tomorrow on: January 05, 2015, 04:58:42 pm
You're either joking or on something.

Actually, elections have trends. The trend on election day was decidedly Republican. Had it been decidedly Democratic, this prediction would have been, perhaps, only a tad bit optimistic. The predictions that don't make sense are from folks that expect the close races to break 50/50.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: January 04, 2015, 12:18:32 am
BS Bob's capitalization of the word 'truth' is hilarious for reasons I can't quite put my finger on.

Mortimer J Adler wrote of six great ideas: Truth, Goodness, Beauty, Liberty, Equality, Justice.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: January 04, 2015, 12:12:44 am
BS Bob and white southerners have something in common

"You shouldn't pity me for living in a tornado prone tinder box!  What about those living under bridges?"

"I know welfare and good governance might do me some good...but... BLACK PEOPLE!"

As long as you're not on the bottom, you're entitled to act like you're on top...amirite?

First of all, to the extent you wish to compare to Southerners I thank you. To the extent I want Southerners to vote Republican I again thank you for the tone with which you speak of Southerners.

Second, Why should people "pity me for living in a tornado prone tinder box?"  Generally, the economics of trailers are poor. And, as you have noted, they aren't as substantial structures as stick-built structures. On the other hand, they seem to offer more privacy than an apartment. That said, there are people for whom that is what their finances provide. Furthermore, in more remote areas, modular structures make more economic sense. All I have stated is that I find it an odd prejudice to look down on people who live in trailers. One explanation for my objecting to such condescension is that I happen to live in a trailer. Another explanation for my objecting to such condescension is that I find it to be bigoted and wrong. The fact that you jumped to the first conclusion rather than the second says more about you than it does me.

In the most recent election, one of the upset winners for the Republicans was Tom Tillis. He spoke in a dignified manner of growing up in a trailer. I don't judge him for that fact. I don't see why anyone should.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: January 03, 2015, 02:09:23 pm
Bob, my man, just how deep do you want to dig your grave here, as it were? If you want to mix it up with Joe, you need more careful placing of your pieces on the chessboard than this - much more. This is amateur hour. Your end might be worthy here, your means pathetic.

The underlying facts here are that the photo in question is a photo-shop forgery. The inconsistent background color that just happens to curve around the "T" in "Tranny" clearly shows that fact. Since when is Truth not a complete defense? Your statement that my "end might be worthy here" indicates that you seem to agree that the photo in question is a forgery.

You would think that someone taking the position of moderator would attempt to hold themselves to a higher standard to set a better example for all. The message sent by using photo-shopped forgeries that is that in politics winning is what is important. Actually, that does seem to be the tone set by many of those in politics. I see that as unfortunate.

Since you wish to discuss strategy, my answer to you is to note you might want to rethink your strategy. There was a poster here named Dan, I think, who seems, as best I can tell, to represent a viewpoint one might consider conservative talk radio. He was banned from posting here, in part, it seems due to a campaign to have him removed by certain posters here. To the best of my recollection, he stuck to advocating his position. His banishment seemed motivated by a desire to not see his viewpoint expressed rather than any wrongdoing on his part.

We live in a world were there exists widespread attempts by folks on the Left to limit political speech by those on the Right. Tactically, some on the center-Right have saw fit to cooperate with such tactics to punish what they see as their common enemies on the Right. While in the short-run such tactics might seem advantageous, they are in the long run suicidal since the process of censoring "conservative" speech doesn't end with limiting the right to speak by those furthest Right. Once they are excluded, those mostly Right will be targeted next. After they are excluded, those on the near Right will be excluded. Then, those on the center Right will be excluded. At some point the person being excluded will be you. Eventually, even the DLC viewpoint will no longer be  welcome. Censorship has its own internal logic that follows to natural conclusions.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: January 03, 2015, 01:13:47 pm
The sign is a rather obvious work of Photoshop. [The background color changes between the words, which can't be explained by differences in lighting because the shadows, and areas around the shadows are quite uniformly lit.

The sign seems to be bent.

An explanation that simply doesn't make sense. Presumably, the variations in shading would be fairly uniform left to right, while in the Photoshopped image the transition from gray to a whiter background color magically circles around the top of the "T" before dropping up and down.


Take it up with the moderators. If you're going to whine about having to deal with political views different from your own, go hang out in the comments section at TownHall.

But, I am not "whining about" dealing with political views different from mine. I am complaining about an obvious use of photo-shopped forgeries to pursue a political point of view. If a conservative poster were using photo-shopped forgeries to belittle a liberal I still would complain. Political discourse ought to occur in the context of Truth, and the Truth is that this photo is a photo-shop forgery.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Who will be the LEAST popular new governor? on: January 02, 2015, 12:39:37 pm
Rauner. He has opted to captain the Titantic Illinois as it moves inexorably towards the fiscal iceberg.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: IL Gov- Is Rauner completely cooked, or is there any hope? on: December 06, 2014, 11:32:22 am
He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.

Disgusting.


Disgusting that it isnt higher?



The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.

You're delusional if you think lame-duck Bruce Rauner will bring the Illinois economy back singlehandedly Roll Eyes

RIP Illinois


If he wasnt cockblocked by a democrat controlled legislature beholden to the unions and leftist environmentalist groups, Illinois's economy would of been able to do the reforms it needs.

Growth in government spending ends in one of two ways: either, the government will not, or cannot spend any more. Once you understand some limit will be reached some day, opting for the former makes more sense. The politicians in Illinois have rigged the system in favor of the latter. The fiscal situation in Illinois is unsustainable, untenable and highly resistant to reform.

The real question is how soon Illinois' death spiral begins, and, how quickly that death spiral accelerates. As businesses realize taxes in Illinois will only go up, they will flee, leaving the remaining businesses in an even more untenable position. The economy of Illinois will be hollowed out well before the state goes bankrupt.

As a number of Republican gubernatorial candidates fell behind in the fall, Quinn's passing Rauner in the polls troubled me the least. I was completely comfortable letting the Democrats "own" what's next for Illinois.
8  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Robotics on: November 16, 2014, 03:12:37 pm
Alternative: a party that favors massive welfare programs and/or something like a guaranteed minimum income becomes massively popular in the face of widespread and growing unemployment

I heard the politics of "job training" programs explained like this:

Imagine placing 100 dogs in a room with 95 bones. Result: after the fighting is over, 95 dogs have a bone and five are licking their wounds.

As a solution imagine taking each dog aside and training him about how to compete more vigorously for a bone. Result: after the fighting is over 95 dogs have a bone, five dogs are licking their wounds, and 100 dog trainers have drawn a paycheck.

The real problem is a lack of jobs, not a lack of "training."

This applies as well to the current obsession with "education." The result isn't more jobs. It is more debt.
9  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Maps of Current State Houses and Senates on: November 16, 2014, 02:29:26 pm
In addition, the GOP took the New Hampshire House.
10  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Robotics on: November 16, 2014, 02:09:55 pm
Robotics will be a chief driver of demographics in the near future. Basically, soon jobs will be automated out of existence even faster than they are created. That will transforms our demographics and our politics. Immigration will be reduced, perhaps dramatically as the demand for labor drops. Unemployment, and underemployment will continue to lower the birthrate. Our politics eventually transform from one that favors the party of immigrates to one that favors the party of family formation.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: What do Governors do when the opposite party holds veto-proof majorities? on: November 16, 2014, 01:12:06 pm
Nixon, Baker and Rauner will be in that situation.

Rauner's situation is different in kind than that of Nixon's and Baker's, while Nixon's is different in degree from Baker's.  Massachusetts' Democrat could do as they please. Republican in Missouri will need some degree of party discipline to govern. If the GOP members of the Illinois House hold together, an override will pass by one vote. That will make each and every Democratic member of the House "the decisive vote for [fill in the blank.]"  That is a politically untenable position in swing districts. It will also grants tremendous leverage to holdouts. I doubt Chicago will be able to work its will in such a situation.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win the Louisiana Runoff? on: November 07, 2014, 01:46:56 am
DSCC cancels all reserved ads for the runoff.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Congrats, Phil on: November 07, 2014, 01:40:51 am
Why congratulate Phil?

He now has a Democratic governor. It is one of a few states where the GOP is worse off next year than this year [OR].
14  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: what year would be the last that this seat would have been won by a... on: October 19, 2014, 11:33:05 pm
lets play a game and start drawing hypothetical districts. I'll start with a D+8 district


I'm guessing 1994 would be the last year an R would have won this, since Ackerman nearly lost that year and this is a point or two right to the 90s 5th.

1980?
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: October 11, 2014, 07:44:09 pm
So, you live in a trailer park. We got it. My condolences.

That is exactly the prejudice that I wonder is acceptable.

You would think that the partisans here would consider it counter-productive to gratuitously insult entire classes of people for reasons of expediency if nothing else. My point is that there are folks here who simply don't seem to care. Had a sign with misspellings been taken in front of a homeless encampment folks here would be outraged to be mocking these poor unfortunate souls. By all accounts mobile homes are more substantial shelter than cardboard boxes. My condolences would be for the folks who live under bridges or over steam grates.

Nobody cares. Stop whining.

If "nobody cares" then why don't they just admit that the image is Photoshopped?
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: October 11, 2014, 07:38:54 pm
The sign is a rather obvious work of Photoshop. [The background color changes between the words, which can't be explained by differences in lighting because the shadows, and areas around the shadows are quite uniformly lit.

The sign seems to be bent.

An explanation that simply doesn't make sense. Presumably, the variations in shading would be fairly uniform left to right, while in the Photoshopped image the transition from gray to a whiter background color magically circles around the top of the "T" before dropping up and down.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: October 11, 2014, 07:35:18 pm
So, you live in a trailer park. We got it. My condolences.

That is exactly the prejudice that I wonder is acceptable.

You would think that the partisans here would consider it counter-productive to gratuitously insult entire classes of people for reasons of expediency if nothing else. My point is that there are folks here who simply don't seem to care. Had a sign with misspellings been taken in front of a homeless encampment folks here would be outraged to be mocking these poor unfortunate souls. By all accounts mobile homes are more substantial shelter than cardboard boxes. My condolences would be for the folks who live under bridges or over steam grates.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: October 11, 2014, 12:07:51 am
There is a moderator here who has as his .sig a photograph of a sign that allegedly reads,

"Libety or Tranny?"

In the background is a trailer park.

The sign is a rather obvious work of Photoshop. [The background color changes between the words, which can't be explained by differences in lighting because the shadows, and areas around the shadows are quite uniformly lit. The handwriting is quite different for "T's" and "R's." And, the coloring for Libety is in the patriotic scheme of alternating red and blue letters on a white background while Tranny is in Black lettering.]

Is presenting Photoshopped images without labeling them as such acceptable behavior here?

Does the fake quote appeal to bigoted prejudices against folks who live in trailer parks? Would the same technique of assigning embarrassing quotes by use of Photoshop be deemed acceptable if the neighborhood featured homes with Menorahs in the windows, or such?

19  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Premilinary 2013 Birth Report Released on: July 05, 2014, 02:36:02 pm
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_02.pdf

Compared to 2012, the number of absolute births was almost flat, with the decline of fertility almost offsetting the growth of population among child-bearing aged women.  What was striking is the absolute decline in the number of births to Asian/Pacific Islander women. Immigration ought to have driven an increase in the absolute number of births. Hispanic women saw almost no increase in births, which, again, must indicate another fall in fertility.

Again, the number of births continued to hover around four million a year.  With net immigration, age-peer groups should be in the order of five to six million. Unless the trends towards lower fertility, and lower net immigration, reverse themselves, or life expectancy dramatically increases, the population of the US rising to four-hundred million is still decades away, and five-hundred million is no longer a certainty.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 - Results on: May 17, 2014, 11:17:49 pm
It's hardly a slur to call Modi a fascist. He is one. Parts of India have also had democratically elected Communist governments.

Technically, a "fascist" is a person who advocates nationalizing the goals and direction of the means of production while leaving them in private hands is? Clearly, the term "fascist" has been bandied about here as a subjective slur as opposed to an objective technical description of his economic policies.

Technically, 'fascist' is a term debased of all meaning by common usage.

Your statement, if True, leads to the immediate conclusion that it is just as accurate to say that Modi is not a "fascist" than to say that he is.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 - Results on: May 17, 2014, 11:16:15 pm
oh my god you're back

Quick tip: Modi's economic policies are generally not what people who point out that he is a fascist murderer are focused on. That's kind of the point.

The fact that many people incorrectly use the term "fascist" doesn't make their ignorance of its technical meaning any less acceptable.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 - Results on: May 17, 2014, 10:23:43 pm
It's hardly a slur to call Modi a fascist. He is one. Parts of India have also had democratically elected Communist governments.

Technically, a "fascist" is a person who advocates nationalizing the goals and direction of the means of production while leaving them in private hands is? Clearly, the term "fascist" has been bandied about here as a subjective slur as opposed to an objective technical description of his economic policies.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 - Results on: May 17, 2014, 10:08:00 pm
Sbane, could you please stop hijacking this thread? This isn't the Indian equivalent of RedState: socialism isn't a slur and privatization is objectionable from the standpoint of many academic economists. We get it, you like Modi and hate the Indian left. You've made your point.

Privatization may very well be "objectionable from the standpoint of many academic economists," but, isn't the real issue here whether, or not, it is objectionable from the standpoint of the Truth? And, more to the point, since this is an Indian election the question is whether, or not, it is objectionable from the perspective of the Indian electorate.

Seems it isn't based on the most recent election.

Aside from the fact that Sbane seems more in line with reason.com than readstate.com, I find it odd that in a thread that seems dominated with poster after poster issuing content-less ad hominem slurs about Modi being a "murderer" and a "fascist,"  [A quick lesson. A communist is a person who believes in nationalizing the means of production without compensation. A socialist is a person who believes in nationalizing the means of production with compensation. A fascist is a person who believes in nationalizing the goals of the means of production while allowing it to remain in private hands. A market liberal believes that the owners of the means of production should set their own goals.] one poster has the audacity to take the side of the governing plurality in India, and question the validity of the ad hominems and is accused of "hijacking" the thread as a result.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Tasmania 2014 on: March 27, 2014, 12:07:53 am
Looks like 15-7-3


3  4 2 3 3
1  1 2 1 2
1  0 1 1 0

http://www.tec.tas.gov.au/StateElection/Results.html
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Crimean status referendum: March 16, 2014 on: March 16, 2014, 04:27:41 pm
Look here for info and results (First exit polls at 20pm local time, results at 22.30pm):

http://en.c-inform.info

BTW: Fabrizio Bertot, a member of the European Parliament from the EPP (Conservatives), who observes the elections in Crimea, told media that the election looks like elections in Italy and that he has seen no irregularities.

(some Western media outfits have reported on the glass boxes where voters throw their ballots into as being "not fair").

I don't see much of a problem with this, because people can vote in voting booths, then fold their ballots once or twice and nobody sees who they voted.

Then, again, because the ballot boxes are glass everybody can see who folded their ballots once or twice.
This is common in many European countries, ...

True, but, is not common in most European countries to have overwhelming military forces stationed in their country.

I'm surprised the ballot isn't printed with options "YES" and "no" mimicking another famous referendum.
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