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626  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS Voting Booth: Because the Senators Are Really that Stupid Amendment on: June 24, 2013, 07:33:56 pm
Aye
627  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: SE House legislation introduction Thread on: June 24, 2013, 02:19:48 pm
We can deal with that when it comes. What would you suggest, imprisonment?

Withdraw our presence form the region, as per the orders of the Emperor. They are the fed's problem. We can only commit the assistance of our militia to the feds, and even then, that is with the approval of the Emperor.

Does the Emperor get to just ignore IDS law? The Restoration of Pacific Order act was passed in a perfectly legal way and the fact that the Emperor disagrees with it doesn't give him the right to not enforce it.
628  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should a new Pacific government be established? on: June 24, 2013, 02:13:18 pm
Why doesn't the "Imperialists" in the IDS go ahead and claim the Pacific and fight for it? If we are forever going to keep these names, we should embrace our destiny. Spread our seed all over the pacific!

That's the spirit!

629  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Should a new Pacific government be established? on: June 24, 2013, 02:01:01 pm
I just realized; nobody has yet actually asked this question. I know there are conflicting beliefs among the No side on what should happen if a new government is not formed, such as IDS annexation or other inferior options, so that question is left for a different poll.

630  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Office of IDS Emperor SJoyce on: June 24, 2013, 01:51:37 pm
Things were going so well too Sad

Why must you stand in the way of the representatives of the southern people? We have passed the law, it is your responsibility to enforce it!
631  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Promoting Education Act of 2013 on: June 24, 2013, 01:50:19 pm
Aye
632  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of IDS Legislator Jbrase: Statement on Pacific Crisis on: June 24, 2013, 01:48:30 pm
How very disappointing. I had hoped you'd be a supporter of our efforts to bring order and southern hospitality to our friends in the Pacific Sad
633  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: June 24, 2013, 01:45:04 pm
Considering the Pacific now belongs to the South by way of annexation, I hereby register as follows:

Big Wiggly Style
Ya'll Muthafudgers Need Jesus Party
Texas

We're happy to have you! I hope you enjoy your stay in the greatest region to ever grace Atlasia Smiley
634  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: SE House legislation introduction Thread on: June 24, 2013, 01:43:51 pm
Restoring Order in the Acquired States Act

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1. WHEREAS several persons in the western part of the Imperial Dominion of the South (formerly known as the Pacific Region) have attempted to rebel against their lawful government,

2. WHEREAS their rebellion is an attempt to secede from the Imperial Dominion of the South (henceforth referred to as the IDS),

3. WHEREAS only two citizens have even participated in the secessionist effort,

4. The government of the IDS recognizes their attempt to create a new "Pacific Region" is founded on blatantly and openly undemocratic principles, and that it is an affront to the region of the IDS itself.

5. WHEREAS the IDS is a shining beacon of representative democracy,

6. The IDS Militia is hereby authorized by the government of the IDS to terminate with extreme prejudice all citizens who have participated in any efforts to create  new "Pacific Region" and/or impugn upon the ability of the IDS government to govern its constituent states.

Forgive them Alfred, they know not what they do.

As this is again an emergency matter I'll introduce it immediately after the last bill is officially done this afternoon.
635  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Battle of the East European Communist Dictators, 1972 on: June 24, 2013, 01:16:33 pm
I voted Tito, but in 1972 Ceausescu might have still qualified as a (relative) FF. After all, the beginning of his regime started with condemnation of Soviet atrocities and a loosening of censorship. Some time around then though was when he began qualifying as super HP.

Hoxha is obviously the best if you think pillboxes are the height of architecture.
636  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: There are now four regions on: June 24, 2013, 12:11:01 am
To answer President Marokai's order: we are fully willing to allow the Federal government to act as our partner in taming and controlling the lawless Pacific and we will do our best to work with them. The President's assistance in this is greatly appreciated and I hope he will fully work with us to keep other regions from acting against the Pacific's integrity in its time of weakness. And to Pacific residents, remember that we're here to help Smiley
637  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: There are now four regions on: June 23, 2013, 11:55:02 pm
My view on this speaker is that its the senate's job until the Pacific's rightful leadership (Spamage) chooses to do something about it like stand up to the perps of Pacific Rimjob. We should work together rather than one region going at it alone.

Has the senate actually assumed responsibility for the Pacific's future? The new constitution did say that the senate do that, but it doesn't seem very constitutional for regions to force something on the Federal government. When the Federal government does act of course we'll give way, but until then someone needs to fill the lawless power vacuum and we'll work with the government to do so.
638  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: There are now four regions on: June 23, 2013, 11:43:48 pm
The rest of Atlasia does not recgonize the IDS's unlawful attempt to annex another region.

The South has always fought against the countless injustices imposed on it by the rest of the regions. We only have the Pacific's best interest at heart, unlike the vultures in the Midwest and the listless copycats in the North East.
639  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / There are now four regions on: June 23, 2013, 11:35:32 pm
Hi, sorry to interrupt this exciting election night but I'd just like to inform everyone that there are now only four de facto regions as we in the IDS now have enough votes to override the Emperor's veto on this bill to temporarily take control of the Pacific! We would greatly appreciate it if you'd update Atlasia maps to something like this This thread will be open to address the needs and concerns of our new Pacific subjects. Remember we're here to help! Smiley
640  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Averroės & DemPGH: 2.5 HOURS TO GO - AVERROĖS = TRUMAN?!? on: June 23, 2013, 11:04:14 pm
The one whose closest political equivalent is Lyndon LaRouche should probably not throw stones while in a glass house.

You ought to know all about Lyndon LaRouche, as you are the very embodiment of such.

That is the oddest thing I've ever been accused of. Are you sure you know who I am? I don't share similar views on foreign policy, economics, religion....really anything with that man. I think you must be mistaken.
641  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Promoting Education Act of 2013 on: June 23, 2013, 10:30:55 pm
Well ok then! Lets bring this to a vote, shall we? Voting will last either 48 hours or until all legislators have voted. Please vote either aye, nay, or abstain.

[ ] Aye
[ ] Nay
[ ] Abstain
642  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Averroës & DemPGH: 2.5 HOURS TO GO - AVERROËS = TRUMAN?!? on: June 23, 2013, 10:28:03 pm
The one whose closest political equivalent is Lyndon LaRouche should probably not throw stones while in a glass house.
643  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Restoration of Pacific Order Act on: June 23, 2013, 08:27:29 pm
Aye.
644  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2013 IDS Regional Election on: June 23, 2013, 08:21:34 pm
Official Ballot:

Please vote for the candidates in your preferred order:

Imperial Legislature:
[4] Velasco (LAB-TX) (i)
[1] Jerryarkansas (FED-AR) (i)
[2] Jbrase (SNP-TX)
[3] write-in: Seatown
645  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2013 Federal Election - President, VP and Regional Senators on: June 23, 2013, 08:14:37 pm
PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT

[3] Averroės Nix of New York and DemPGH of Pennsylvania
Labor Party - Liberal Party

[1] Matt from VT of New York and Maxwell of Kansas
Federalist Party

[5] Xahar of California and Hashemite of Florida
National Movement "Aliya Mustafina"

[2] Write-in:Oakvale/Baconking

[4] Write-in:Seatown/Opebo


IDS SENATOR

[2] Hashemite of Florida
National Movement "Aliya Mustafina"

[1] NCYankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party
646  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Restoration of Pacific Order Act on: June 22, 2013, 03:35:26 pm
I will now move to override the Emperor's veto.
Same deal, 48 hours or until all have voted.

Please vote on whether to override the veto:
[] Aye
[] Nay
[] Abstain
647  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: June 22, 2013, 09:21:29 am
Reminder that Rick Scott is a scumbag: http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17952-felon-disenfranchisement-the-new-jim-crow

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"Florida is one of only four states that permanently disenfranchise individuals who have been convicted of felonies. (Most states permit immediate or eventual re-enfranchisement.) As incarceration rates have soared, both in Florida and elsewhere, the number of people affected by this restriction has grown very large (about 6 million in the U.S.). Florida accounts for 1.5 million, 1.3 million of whom have completed their sentences (NAACP 2012). Although Florida comprises only 6% of the U.S. population, 25% of disenfranchised felons and ex-felons reside in the state."

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"Felon disenfranchisement has direct links to post Civil War 'Black Codes' in Florida and many other Southern states as laws were enacted to prevent African Americans from voting. Other measures followed; poll taxes, literacy tests, grandfather clauses, etc. The Voting Rights Act outlawed most of these practices, but voting restrictions for felons have survived numerous court challenges. Felon disenfranchisement currently affects nearly one quarter of Florida's black voting age population -- the highest rate in the nation."

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"The right to vote can be restored only by individual considerations of the Florida Board of Executive Clemency, an excruciatingly slow and unpredictable process. In early 2007, then Gov. Charlie Crist, eased rules to provide automatic restoration for lesser felonies, with review for more serious cases. Although still a very small fraction, in three years more than 150,000 ex-felons had their rights restored. Almost immediately upon entering office, Gov. Rick Scott repealed Crist's changes and added new restrictions, resulting in fewer than 300 individuals' rights restored during his tenure. Applicants must wait at least 5 years before commencing a process that, if successful, will take another 7 years or longer. In effect, they currently have no path to restoration."

Felon disenfranchisement didn't begin under Scott and won't end under his successor. It's a very popular policy.
648  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Restoration of Pacific Order Act on: June 21, 2013, 11:02:01 pm
48 hours having passed this bill is passed 3-1 with one not voting. It is now sent to the Emperor for signature or veto.
649  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: June 21, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
So George LeMieux might be Scott's pick for VP...
I heard Allen West was also a contender a few months back.

The big thing with West was that he declared he'd be open to being LG when Scott said he wouldn't be a bad choice when directly asked about it and then there was a big outpouring of base support for him. There was never any real move for West from the top.
650  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Promoting Education Act of 2013 on: June 21, 2013, 04:40:17 pm
Anyone interested in debating this?
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