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626  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Barack Obama on: August 05, 2013, 02:15:18 pm
I'm just like "Whatever, brah."
627  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: August 05, 2013, 01:52:26 pm
Aye.

Really?

By the way, Dereich, if you are concerned about drug standards, I don't know why don't you suppress the drug clause of the original bill instead of the control board alone.

Nay.

....oh. I'm very sorry, in my edit of the original bill I forgot to keep the beginning of section 3. Thank you very much for catching my mistake, I had INTENDED to do what you're saying the whole time. I'll restart the vote now, to change THIS:

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3. Individuals may possess for personal use up to any quantity of marijuana, hashish, or cannabis oil, 40 pieces of magic mushrooms, 5 plants of peyote, 5 tablets of LSD, 4 tablets of ecstasy, 2 grams of amphetamine, 1 gram of MDMA, 2 grams of methamphetamine, 1.5 grams of heroin, 2 grams of morphine, 10 grams of opium, 0.1 grams of PCP, 0.5 grams of pure THC, 5 plants of coca, and 2 grams of cocaine with no legal punishment. Possession of larger than these amounts for personal use can result in a fine of up to $1000. Possession of higher than 100 times these amounts with intent to distribute can also result in a fine of up to $100,000. This article does not apply to minors and does not legalize illegal activities committed while under the influence of such drugs.
3a. The sale and taxation of the aforementioned drugs shall be the sole responsibility of a control board fully owned and operated by the regional government, to be set up by law after passage of this legislation.
3b. The above clause (3a) does not apply to the sale and use of medical marijuana, which may be prescribed by certified physicians and available, solely with prescription, in pharmacies.
3c. As soon as this legislation is in effect, the Comprehensive Drug Reform Initiative of November 3 2009 shall be repealed.

Same deal, 24 hours to vote. Aye, Nay or Abstain.
628  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is the previous poster a RINO? on: August 05, 2013, 01:42:00 pm
Absolutely not, he would be a true blue Republican if he had the privilege of being born an American Smiley
629  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: August 05, 2013, 12:57:50 pm
Well, as I still have those concerns, I'll proceed with a vote on my amendment to strike clause 3, which Sjoyce did not consider friendly. The effects on the bill would be as follows:

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3a. The sale and taxation of the aforementioned drugs shall be the sole responsibility of a control board fully owned and operated by the regional government, to be set up by law after passage of this legislation.
3b. The above clause (3a) does not apply to the sale and use of medical marijuana, which may be prescribed by certified physicians and available, solely with prescription, in pharmacies.
3c. As soon as this legislation is in effect, the Comprehensive Drug Reform Initiative of November 3 2009 shall be repealed.

Voting will be open for 24 hours or until all have voted.

[] Aye
[] Nay
[] Abstain
630  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Doctor Who 50th Anniversary (and general series discussion) on: August 04, 2013, 04:55:38 pm
If you want to see something sad:

http://i.imgur.com/b6kkCYI.png

These people are definitely not going to be happy. I like the decision though, I understand he's a very good actor.
631  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Campaign of Dereich for Emperor on: August 03, 2013, 09:05:10 pm
In keeping with the theme of my campaign, I want to both ask for public ideas and present a few of my own on a new opportunity. Our wonderful interior secretary, Superique, has opened a thread where each region must decide how to spend the stimulus money allotted to it. We in the wonderful IDS have been handed $15 billion to use and I know many people have interesting new ways on how we should spend it. I want to spend part of it on something I have always cared about: Ports


At an earlier time I had hoped to propose a port expansion bill in the legislature, but money was always short. Now with our stimulus is the perfect opportunity for putting our region in a dominant position for years to come! The Panama Canal's expansion (Panamax) will allow huge new ships to bring cargo to ports on the East Coast that are now forced by the size of their ships to stay in ports in California and Washington. With this new expansion, these huge ships will be able to travel much closer to where their customers are, but NONE of the ports in the IDS are prepared to handle this influx of trade and goods. THIS IS A TRAVESTY THAT MUST BE CORRECTED. A report by the Army Corp of Engineers (http://www.iwr.usace.army.mil/Portals/70/docs/portswaterways/rpt/June_20_U.S._Port_and_Inland_Waterways_Preparing_for_Post_Panamax_Vessels.pdf) put the cost of expansion for Southeast and Gulf ports at between 3 and 5 billion dollars. Much of this goes to dredging ports to allow for large ships to fit into harbors, creating new facilities to handle the expanded trade and buying the huge "super post Panamax" cranes that are in the photo I showed. International trade accounts for almost 30% of Atlasia's GDP and we should have more of that money flowing to us! And for the TNF types, jobs based around foreign imports pay almost $50,000 a year on average; higher than the average wage, and definitely a living wage in the IDS. We could always do with more high paying jobs!

That's my idea for how to spend part of the money, but it shouldn't just be the legislature and the Emperor who decide how the money is spent! I'd like to know how everyone in the public thinks we should spend our windfall; tax cuts, checks in the mail, infrastructure improvements all ideas are welcome! I feel like there are many opportunities for public involvement like this that we usually let pass us by; getting everyone involved is what I believe in and will work for if you elect me as your next Emperor.
632  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: August 03, 2013, 06:00:47 pm
Hey! I know! Let's build more nuclear power plants!!!!

It was a joke, don't kill me Zanas
633  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: August 03, 2013, 04:29:09 pm
Hey, as per Superique's thread the IDS is due 15 billion in stimulus money. I know its up to the Emperor to come up with the final plan, but I think its also a good idea for us to suggest things to spend it on if we have any ideas; after all, it can't hurt. So, any ideas?
634  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Italian Election Series - 1990 General Elections on: August 03, 2013, 12:15:49 pm
PDP moderating another Communist led government is better than see DN and the Northern league in power, so I vote for them.
635  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: August 02, 2013, 11:10:25 pm
Personally, I still don't think I can vote for a bill with such liberal drug standards. Its problematic to encourage that kind of substance abuse.
636  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Truman Building: SoEA Talleyrand on: August 02, 2013, 05:03:22 pm
Are we a member of the World Trade Organization? If we are, do the restrictions in place with partial or full status comply with our international obligations?
637  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: August 01, 2013, 01:20:43 pm
With a vote of 4-0 with one not voting the amendment passes.
638  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Campaign of Dereich for Emperor on: July 31, 2013, 06:27:02 pm
Welcome to the race homeslice how bout a debate?

Let's do it Lincoln-Douglas style, no moderator, just you n me and questions from the audience too

Sure, sounds great.
639  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: South East Militia Dissolution Act (Debating) on: July 31, 2013, 03:32:58 pm
Well, I'm not going to run for re election. Hopefully I will be replaced by Zanas, but I don't have a clue about his thoughts on this subject. I'd like to discuss on issues like: have this region the right to act unilaterally in events like the Pacific crisis or the proposed invasion of Coahuila and Tamaulipas? Why do we need so different types of militia? What's the reason to maintain regional laws where such militias are described as "paramilitary" forces? Why don't we have a regional emergency plan coordinated by civil authorities instead of by a commander of a paramilitary unit? I have a bunch of questions like these. It's just for fun, as our speaker says in his campaign's opening speech.

Its sad to hear that you're leaving the legislature. Sad  You've always been a very thorough and engaging legislator and though we've often disagreed you've brought a lot of intellectualism and great debate to the legislature.

As for your questions; even without the Militia in its current form, the same bill would have been proposed. The Northeast had no problems trying to do the same thing with their National Guard and the Midwest would have presumably used their National Guard if annexing the Pacific as well. The name doesn't really encourage or discourage odd actions from the legislature, its nothing more than a reflection of what created it. The South has always been a very individualistic and government-distrusting region. The creation of the less centrally organized Milita is just a reflection of this. Calling them paramilitary was probably a mistake on the part of those long ago who wrote the bill, but it still reflects the idea that the government isn't the only armed group out there. Its all very tied in to American gun culture.
640  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: July 31, 2013, 02:33:13 pm

Voting will last 24 hours or until all have voted

[] Aye
[] Nay
[] Abstain

Which amemendment are we voting?

The part of Hash's amendments not accepted by Sjoyce. That would change this
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11. Individuals under the age of 12 in all seats and under the age of 18 in front seats must wear seatbelts when traveling in a motor vehicle. Violations of this law carry a fine of $100, but a law enforcement officer cannot stop or ticket an individual solely for not wearing a seatbelt, but only when the driver has committed another primary violation.
12. Nobody shall be compelled to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle; however, in a lawsuit after an accident, a person may have their damages reduced if they were not wearing a helmet. This law does not affect riders of scooters, mopeds, and other small motorcycles.

to this

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11. All individuals, either as drivers or passengers, travelling in any motor vehicle with the exception of public transportation vehicles (such as buses), must wear seatbelts. Violations of this law carry a fine of $100.

Your amendments were adopted.
641  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: July 31, 2013, 01:41:58 pm
Aye to my amendment

So were my amendments re: the age of consent at 16 accepted as friendly?

Yes. I've updated the bill's wording in the original post to reflect that.

Aye
642  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Campaign of Dereich for Emperor on: July 31, 2013, 01:02:02 pm
All suggestions are welcome! I'm happy people want to participate!
643  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Campaign of Dereich for Emperor on: July 31, 2013, 12:30:57 pm
Thank you Maxwell and Jack Enderman for your endorsements Smiley

Our current capital is Memphis, TN. A lovely city, of course, but I know that not everyone is happy with it being where it is now and Charleston is the previous capital. This is exactly the kind of activity I'm hoping to foster! Getting people out from the sidelines and into discussion is where we need to go!
644  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Campaign of Dereich for Emperor on: July 31, 2013, 12:28:15 pm
Does this mean there is going to be an open seat in the legislature or are you going to run again, but for both offices?

I'm up in the class A seats while that is the class B election. If I win I would appoint my successor in the legislature. The tradition in the past has been to try and find someone of similar ideological opinion the replace the departing legislator. If BaconKing wins I will remain in my current position.
645  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Good Ol' Southern Polling on: July 31, 2013, 12:21:11 pm
646  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Dereich for Emperor: Endorsement of PiT on: July 31, 2013, 12:11:32 pm


Hey y'all, it's your beloved and all knowing speaker! I will be running for the Emperor of our fair Southern lands. While you can expect more detail out of me later, I can pledge this right now.

Activity. I have been the most active member of the legislature for much of my tenure and pledge to continue this as Emperor. We need an active and engaged Emperor who will work with the legislature as Sjoyce and PiT did to prevent the region from falling into boring decay and inactivity. I am the candidate of activity. I will not let the region get to the state the Pacific ended up in.

Bipartisanship. In my time as speaker only one bill ever passed without support from at least two parties. As Emperor my job will not be to reject anything Labor or NM-AM creates out of hand, but to see if we can make anything and everything better. I also believe you can compromise and still have fun as well. In Zanas and SJoyce's battle across the forum on nuclear power while they both took up the extreme positions I worked with other legislature members to change the bill to something that finally passed. I'll work to preserve both fun and bipartisanship in a game that is lacking in both at the moment.

A Plan. Recently I have been writing a revision to our fair Constitution to change our name to The South, move our capital to Charleston, SC, and change our flag to anything that isn't this:

Do I believe in it all? Not 100%, but I think that arguing over it will be fun. THAT is what I want for the region, us to all enjoy ourselves. I hope to involve the public as well; with each part of the revision public ideas will be solicited on the main board to involve non-legislators as well as those already elected. I tried this earlier in the year and it went well; with a solid framework to work on I think we can get lots of public involvement in the decision for a better region.

Thank you, and God bless the South.
647  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: July 31, 2013, 11:17:46 am
I will be a candidate for Emperor of the Imperial Dominion of the South next month.
648  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: July 31, 2013, 11:14:44 am
All amendments (excluding Dereich's amendment to Clauses 4 and 8 and Hash's amendments to clauses 8 and 9) are friendly.

We made the age of consent 12?

So what of my striking of clause 3? Is that friendly as well or does accepting Hash's revision count as rejecting it?

And Velasco, I wasn't really thinking too hard about it; I just noticed that the changes to 8 didn't really effect 9 and glossed over it.

I accept Hash's revision to Clause 3.

Do you accept my striking of clause 6? Its always nice to say we don't support child pornography, but its pretty redundant when we already have a law about it.

I've edited the bill to what I believe is the current form and I'll also open up voting on Hash's amendments about seat-belts and helmets now. This is a vote on changing this:

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11. Individuals under the age of 12 in all seats and under the age of 18 in front seats must wear seatbelts when traveling in a motor vehicle. Violations of this law carry a fine of $100, but a law enforcement officer cannot stop or ticket an individual solely for not wearing a seatbelt, but only when the driver has committed another primary violation.
12. Nobody shall be compelled to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle; however, in a lawsuit after an accident, a person may have their damages reduced if they were not wearing a helmet. This law does not affect riders of scooters, mopeds, and other small motorcycles.

to this:

Quote
11. All individuals, either as drivers or passengers, travelling in any motor vehicle with the exception of public transportation vehicles (such as buses), must wear seatbelts. Violations of this law carry a fine of $100.

Voting will last 24 hours or until all have voted

[] Aye
[] Nay
[] Abstain
649  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Liberalization Act of 2013 on: July 31, 2013, 10:54:33 am
All amendments (excluding Dereich's amendment to Clauses 4 and 8 and Hash's amendments to clauses 8 and 9) are friendly.

We made the age of consent 12?

So what of my striking of clause 3? Is that friendly as well or does accepting Hash's revision count as rejecting it?

And Velasco, I wasn't really thinking too hard about it; I just noticed that the changes to 8 didn't really effect 9 and glossed over it.
650  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: South East Militia Dissolution Act (Debating) on: July 30, 2013, 02:35:29 pm
No, it's been handled. Thanks though.

What are you trying to say here?
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