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626  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: IDS Drug Legalization Act on: January 14, 2015, 10:38:30 am
Aye guess so
627  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Hate Speech #2 on: January 14, 2015, 02:02:45 am
As far as I can tell, current US law is based on the Brandenburg standard. That's where I'd put the line myself; if the speech is likely to produce imminent violence it shouldn't be legal, but otherwise it shouldn't be banned.
628  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Lion and the Rose: The North on: January 13, 2015, 09:31:18 pm


Stannis Baratheon watched the loitering Watchmen from the King's Tower and ground his teeth. He shouldn't be here. Saving the Watch from the wildlings was well and good, but that was before Tywin had died. Stannis didn't like Tywin (Stannis didn't like many people) but he had respected him. Tywin had been the firm hand holding back chaos, keeping the kingdom from falling apart and now he was gone. Stannis needed to do something.

But for now that had to wait. He would not abandon his duty to the Watch; so he grit his teeth and waited for them to play through their little political show. The rumor was that Janos Slynt was a leading candidate to the next Lord Commander; the very idea was ridiculous. The Watch was full of practical people who weren't stupid enough to find out what "Ours is the Fury" means in practice. And besides, Slynt had less charisma than he did and could be outsmarted by any man with half a brain. No, the Watch would select some old hand from Eastwatch or the Shadow Tower to be their new Lord Commander and he would smile, congratulate them and then tell them what to do. He would inform the Commander that the fighting men of the wildlings were going to be let through the Wall to join Stannis's army. He would also be told to let in as many refugees as he could stomach, to be settled in the Gift. Settling the pacified wildlings would deprive his enemies of manpower, increase tax revenue and be a useful buffer against future attack; useless bias would not stand in the way of a common sense way of stopping the northern menace as long as he was King. As for the "King-Beyond-the-Wall", stubborn to the last, he would be made use of: Melisandre had assured Stannis that R'hllor had a use for the petty king and Stannis wasn't going to disagree. While he waited for the Watch to finish assembling for their vote, Stannis considered the North.

His position was by no means terrible; Roose Bolton controlled the North, but he was a hated usurper who would be violently put in his place the moment his grip slipped. Stannis had been Eddard Stark's choice to succeed Robert and he intended to put a Stark back in Winterfell; the Northmen would surely follow him. He stole a glace at his shadow, the Red Priestess who was always at his side. Already knowing what was on his mind, she smiled and said "Jon Snow is on his way as we speak." That was good. Legitimizing Snow might be the key to toppling Bolton. Already ravens had been sent to any and every Northern lord with a reason to dislike the Boltons and the Freys (all of them) and soon they would also get the news that a Stark had been restored to Winterfell and that the King who had done his duty for the Watch would do his duty for them.

Stannis stood and waited, impatient for the future he had seen in the flames. Westeros was crying out for a firm and just ruler to restore order. Westeros was crying out for Stannis. It just didn't know it yet.
629  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: The Drone Release Act (Debating) on: January 13, 2015, 02:51:23 am
"Invasive" is an awfully squirrely term. Does it mean the same thing for public and private property? Who gets to decide whats invasive? Define it broadly and pretty much anything can be invasive; this would just replace one ban on drone usage with another.
630  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 12, 2015, 01:05:32 am
With a unanimous vote of the legislature, Yelnoc is expelled.

With 4 votes Maxwell is elected Speaker of the Imperial Legislature.
631  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / IDS 2: The Drone Release Act (Debating) on: January 11, 2015, 12:50:51 pm
Quote
The Drone Release Act
1. All IDS laws prohibiting commercial drone usage are hereby repealed.
2. Drones are not to be used in an invasive manner on private property.

Sponsor: Maxwell
632  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Promote Marriage Diversity Act on: January 11, 2015, 12:48:54 pm
With one aye, three nays and one legislator not voting, this bill fails in the IDS legislature.
633  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: IDS Drug Legalization Act on: January 11, 2015, 12:47:56 pm
With two ayes, one nay, one abstention and one not voting this amendment has passed.
634  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 11, 2015, 02:24:20 am
Should Yelnoc be expelled from the Imperial Legislature?

  • Yes
635  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 10, 2015, 03:51:48 pm
There is nothing preventing us from doing both at once; we can choose our own officers so he's only speaker until we elect a new one. I was planning on just getting 4 statements from the legislators in favor of expulsion to go more quickly, but looking at the constitution it seems a proper vote IS required. So I'll start that immediately.

Legislators have 48 hours or until all have voted to choose whether or not to expel Yelnoc from the legislature. Please vote yes or no.

Should Yelnoc be expelled from the Imperial Legislature?

[] Yes
[] No
636  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 10, 2015, 03:52:59 am
[1] Maxwell
637  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 09, 2015, 11:11:19 pm
Seeing no more nominations, legislators please vote for your next speaker. This vote will close in 48 hours or when all have voted.

IDS Speaker:

[] Maxwell
638  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Promote Marriage Diversity Act on: January 09, 2015, 01:25:21 am
Nay
639  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: IDS Drug Legalization Act on: January 08, 2015, 08:22:32 pm
Aye
640  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: IDS Drug Legalization Act on: January 08, 2015, 06:28:29 pm
I've incorporated Maxwell's amendments in, so all we need to vote on here is X's amendment. So legislators, please vote on X's amendment to the current text with an aye, nay or abstention. Voting will last 48 hours or until all have voted.


Quote from: X's Amendment
IDS Drug Legalization Act
1. The possession, transportation, and consumption of heroin, methadone, opium, ketamine, and methamphetamine and the substances, plants, or chemicals needed for their processing are hereby legalized throughout the IDS.
2. The sale of substances mentioned in section 1 shall be taxed at an extra 20% of the retail price.
3. Anyone operating a vehicle with a trace of any drug mentioned in Section 1 is an offense that will be considered under the DUI laws, with a minimum fine of $1500 for the first offense and $3000 or 150 Hours of community service for the second offense.
4. Revenue from the taxation and fines of this act must be put towards drug rehabilitation centers in the IDS.
641  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Promote Marriage Diversity Act on: January 08, 2015, 06:21:48 pm
Seeing no further debate, I bring this bill to a final vote. Legislators have 48 hours to vote aye, nay or to abstain.

Quote from: Final Text
Promote Marriage Diversity Act

1. All acts and relevant sections of acts prohibiting the entry of more than two people into a marriage contract shall be repealed.
642  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 08, 2015, 11:22:41 am
While we're doing this there's nothing preventing us from concurrently electing a new speaker. Anyone interested in the position?
643  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: IDS Drug Legalization Act on: January 08, 2015, 03:03:10 am
I've always felt that a government that isn't doing its best to stop the proliferation of something as unambiguously harmful and addictive as some of these drugs is a useless entity. I don't believe markets are able to effectively handle highly addictive materials and that its one of the few areas where the government's intervention actually works out for the better.

That we've already decriminalized these substances is appalling enough; I see no reason to go any further. I don't believe the black market argument works very well; depending on how prices shake out for some of these drugs black market goods could still be cheaper than the now very highly taxed legal product. Especially in a day fine system as we've set up, if you're poor and buy these drugs, you will now go from a very low fine (based on your wages) to a higher tax (based on the drug's base cost). I could see this actually making black markets a bigger issue.

When it comes to a vote, I will support X's amendment.
644  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature on: January 08, 2015, 02:47:30 am
I move to expel Speaker Yelnoc.
645  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Lion and the Rose, the II ASOIAF Game (Sign Up - Rules Thread) on: January 06, 2015, 09:33:45 pm
I guess since the kings are required I'll take Stannis.

Was looking forward to reseizing the Vale as Royce, but maybe that's for the future
646  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Promote Marriage Diversity Act on: December 26, 2014, 08:18:24 pm
Far from supporting this bill, I would support harsher penalties for those polygamists who try to come here from other regions.

Sorry for taking so long, I lost my password and hadn't bothered to fix it till now.
647  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Taxpayer Receipt Act on: December 22, 2014, 10:14:03 am
Aye
648  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS December 2014 Elections on: December 19, 2014, 10:49:16 am
IDS Emperor:
[1] Flo

District 2
[1] Dereich
649  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Protecting people from explosives Amendment on: December 18, 2014, 07:20:35 pm
Nay
650  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Protecting people from explosives Amendment on: December 13, 2014, 09:55:41 pm
I see no reason to add an ambiguous phrase from several hundred years ago to the constitution. The low-potency explosives thing is pretty dumb, but the replacement is even worse. At this point I will be voting nay.
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