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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: IDS Save our Utilites Act (Amending) on: August 16, 2014, 05:30:07 pm
Why not expand cooperative opportunities to provide competition to utilities and utilize that Smart Grid Act we passed two years ago or so as a means to facilitate it. That will eliminate any justification for nationalization.

The justification for nationalization is that a group of dogmatic ideologists want to do so as a stepping stone for total control of the economy; if the current Senate proposal was based on any kind of need or practicality we wouldn't need to be discussing this here. Your suggestion might make practical sense and could be added as an additional amendment or in another bill, but even if it was implemented nationwide it wouldn't stop the radicals in the Senate from pursuing total nationalization, necessitating our own response.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: IDS Save our Utilites Act (Amending) on: August 15, 2014, 11:17:28 pm
As for redrafting, I'd be fine just adopting SJoyce's amendment, but I'd also be open to expanding from just acting as a counter to the senate bill to include other utilities or businesses that might be targeted.
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS Voting Booth: The Candidacy Withdrawal Amendment on: August 15, 2014, 10:48:10 pm
Aye
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: IDS Save our Utilites Act (Final Vote) on: August 15, 2014, 06:49:55 pm
With three votes in favor and one legislator not voting, this bill passes the IDS Legislature and is sent to the Emperor for signature or veto.

To be honest, this was a rushed bill meant more than anything else to be passed and ready before the nationalization occurred. Now that it looks like we have a bit more time I definitely agree that this bill could and should be amended. SJoyce's wording is more concise and relevant; I agree with his suggestion that this bill be vetoed and we adopt something along those lines.
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: August 13, 2014, 10:17:00 pm
I'll run for reelection to the legislature in my district
81  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 300 AL (3) - The Black Dragon) on: August 13, 2014, 07:36:58 pm
What makes you so sure that Littlefinger is the guilty party?
82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: IDS Save our Utilites Act (Final Vote) on: August 13, 2014, 07:13:07 pm
Aye
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: IDS Save our Utilites Act (Debating) on: August 13, 2014, 06:49:16 pm
With unanimous consent I move this bill to a final vote; legislators have 48 hours or until all have voted to vote aye, nay or to abstain.

Quote from: Final Text
IDS Save our Utilites Act

1. All power and fuel companies within the IDS as described by the Public Fuel and Power Act of 2014 will be immediately nationalized by the Imperial Government. These companies will be returned to their former owners one minute after said bill goes into effect or fails.
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / IDS 1: IDS Save our Utilites Act (Passed) on: August 12, 2014, 06:42:59 pm
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IDS Save our Utilites Act

1. All power and fuel companies within the IDS as described by the Public Fuel and Power Act of 2014 will be immediately nationalized by the Imperial Government. These companies will be returned to their former owners one minute after said bill goes into effect or fails
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1. All power and fuel companies within the IDS (defined as any for-profit entity deriving 75 percent or more of its profit from the production, maintenance, or distribution of any form of energy, but excluding gas stations and the extraction of natural resources) will be immediately nationalized by the Imperial Government upon any attempt (constituting the entry into force of legislation or an executive order) by the federal government to bring those corporations into public ownership. During their time under regional control, the operations of these companies will not be affected in any way. These companies will be returned to their former owners one minute after the federal attempt goes into effect.

Sponsor: Speaker Dereich


I ask unanimous consent to move this bill to a final vote.
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: SE House legislation introduction Thread on: August 12, 2014, 06:40:05 pm
IDS Save our Utilites Act

1. All power and fuel companies within the IDS as described by the Public Fuel and Power Act of 2014 will be immediately nationalized by the Imperial Government. These companies will be returned to their former owners one minute after said bill goes into effect or fails.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (LEADERSHIP DECLARATIONS!) on: August 12, 2014, 01:05:16 pm
Chairman:

[X] Senator North Carolina Yankee

Vice-Chairman

[X] Assemblyman JCL
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: IDS Fine Act (Debating) on: August 12, 2014, 06:51:45 am
Well we've got to choose something; I think I've made where I stand clear, do any other legislators have an opinion on how we should amend this?
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (LEADERSHIP DECLARATIONS!) on: August 11, 2014, 03:44:25 pm
Well, the two days allotted for leadership nominations have passed and Yankee has asked me to open the vote in his stead. Federalists have 72 hours to vote for Chair and Vice-Chair.


Chairman:

[] Senator North Carolina Yankee

Vice-Chairman

[] Assemblyman JCL
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: IDS Fine Act (Debating) on: August 07, 2014, 07:06:41 pm
How about having the money redistributed to local governments by population size? I'm of the opinion that the money should end up with the local governments; they have too few good ways for raising revenue as it is.

Except that's the issue Nix raises - then it goes directly to the treasury of the people who pay the salaries of most law enforcement officials. I support the charity option, though I worry about the possibility of it going to a corrupt charity (ex: I give it to a 501(c)(3) backing my re-election).

I don't think it'd cause the same problem; if you redistributed the money by population any individual area being extra aggressive would only get a tiny fraction of the extra revenue.
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: IDS Fine Act (Debating) on: August 07, 2014, 05:40:45 pm
How about having the money redistributed to local governments by population size? I'm of the opinion that the money should end up with the local governments; they have too few good ways for raising revenue as it is.
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: IDS Fine Act (Debating) on: August 06, 2014, 04:12:19 am
Something similar came before the senate a couple years ago. I didn't support it because I was afraid that police officers would unfairly target rich people in order to "meet quota." For example, it would likely be more worthwhile to pull over someone who is speeding in a Jaguar than someone who's speeding in a 15-year-old Toyota. Since fines have the dual purpose of punishing misdemeanors as well as generating revenue, I have a hard time supporting something that will force certain people to pay more for the same offense.

That's true; I hadn't even considered the revenue implications. Still, I think this is the best solution to the problem of fines not being anywhere near large enough to be an effective deterrent. Thinking about it, the additional revenue could be a very good thing for local governments and would probably lead to lower property taxes or more spending in most area.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: IDS Fine Act (Debating) on: August 05, 2014, 01:01:58 am
This is fine with me. Often times, the wealthy are not hurt by criminal or civil fines, whereas the poor take a larger hit. A $100 fine may not be much to someone, but it is to a poor.

How would we determine income though? Tax returns?

That's right. I'd assume we'd do what Finland does and use the monthly income from the previous year's tax returns to determine the fee.
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Recognizing Excellence in Leadership Resolution (Final Vote) on: August 04, 2014, 02:50:34 pm
A bit late, but aye

With 4 ayes and one not voting, this bill passes the IDS legislature and is sent to the Emperor for signature or veto
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: July 2014 Federal Special Election - At-Large Senate on: August 03, 2014, 10:50:03 pm
1. JCL
2. Matt from VT
3. Spiral
4. Mechaman
5. Wrath of the Gods
6. Poirot
7. Dr. Cynic
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Recognizing Excellence in Leadership Resolution (Debating) on: August 02, 2014, 09:21:48 am
Seeing no further debate, I bring this resolution to a final vote. Legislators have 48 hours to vote aye, nay or to abstain.

Quote from: final text
A RESOLUTION


To recognize the career and accomplishments of native IDS resident and 31st President Duke, as well as those of IDS Senator North Carolina Yankee, Attorney General PiT and prominent statesman Jbrase


Be it enacted by the Legislature of the Imperial Dominion of the South assembled


SECTION 1. TITLE

This legislation may be cited as the Recognizing Excellence in Leadership Resolution.

SECTION 2. COMMEMORATION

IDS citizen AHDuke99 of South Carolina, commonly referred to as Duke, 31st President of the Republic of Atlasia, is hereby recognized for his leadership, both to his home region of the Imperial Dominion of the South and to the Republic of Atlasia, throughout his service as both legislator and executive.

IDS citizen North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina, current Senator of the Imperial Dominion of the South, is hereby recognized for his long and continuing record of leadership to the Region as our delegate to the Atlasian Senate.

Longtime statesmen PiT and Jbrase are hereby recognized for their long times of service in multiple positions, including that of Emperor, throughout their residencies in the Imperial Dominion of the South.

Upon enactment of this legislation, it shall be incumbent upon Scott of North Carolina, current Emperor of the Imperial Dominion of the South, to formally commemorate the honorees at the East Room of the Imperial Mansion in Memphis, TN.
96  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 300 AL (2) - The Winds of Winter) on: July 30, 2014, 11:09:44 pm
Oh, isn't Shireen Baratheon around as well? I don't think she was ever killed off.
97  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 300 AL (2) - The Winds of Winter) on: July 30, 2014, 09:23:28 pm
Arya Stark is still around, right? Anyway, if you're looking for potential matches, there are always Freys around.
98  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 300 AL (1) - A Time for Wolves) on: July 30, 2014, 03:16:52 pm
Would whoever has the dragons kindly send them north of the Wall? We have some "friends" in our former home that could really use a dragon or three.
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (48 HR VOTE STARTED, VOTE NOW!!!) on: July 29, 2014, 09:00:22 pm
Aye
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: IDS Fine Act (Debating) on: July 29, 2014, 07:50:11 pm
Its meant for all offenses; if pressed I'd say it could actually be a better policy for non-violent rather than violent crimes, just because of how prison focused violent crime sentencing is.

As for Deadprez, who said he doesn't know he's still in the legislature? Citizens have been active in commenting on what we do in the past, its not like its discouraged or anything.
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