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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Capitals of states on: June 24, 2016, 09:54:13 am
Several state capitals were chosen exactly because they aren't the largest city; the goal was to stop political dominance by one city leading to neglect for everywhere else.

There were also cases where there were several cities that could have qualified as the capital and the choice was a compromise. Florida, for example, chose Tallahassee because it was the halfway point between the two biggest cities of the day, St. Augustine and Pensacola.
77  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 24, 2016, 09:27:58 am
And it begins:

Sources at Morgan Stanley tell BBC it's already begun process of moving 2,000 London based investment banking staff to Dublin or Frankfurt.


RIP The City
78  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 24, 2016, 01:02:48 am
Lol.....

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746216684596297729

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Financial Times reports Standard & Poor's says the UK is likely to lose its AAA credit rating

No consequences at all...

Much of the elite is feeling angry and spiteful right now.  They're lashing out.  Downgrading the UKs credit rating would be a spiteful move.

S&P isn't in the business of "lashing out." They're a respected credit agency because they make objective (well, as objective as humanly possible) observations on creditworthiness. "Lashing out" like children would ruin them; this is all business. Just like the markets aren't "being spiteful" by mass selling the pound and selling shares associated with Britain. This is a damning indictment that virtually everyone with money believes that Britain has made itself a worse investment and economically worse-off.
79  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK leaves the EU... will Scotland get another referendum? on: June 24, 2016, 12:41:19 am
If I were a Scot living in England, or an English living in Scotland, facing the prospect of a hard national border, this would be a very sad day for me.

There are now 1.2 million Britons and 3 million EU residents now facing the prospect of hard national borders between the EU and the UK so it's sad days all around.
80  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:41:24 pm
SCOTLAND VOTES REMAIN
More than 50% of voters have voted for Remain

Congrats, hopefully the next vote is for independence.
Want to make Scotland a third world country? because that's how you make Scotland a third world country

The "obvious economic downside" argument didn't work for this referendum, why should they work for an independence referendum?
81  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:23:55 pm
RIP the pound, RIP the City of London.

They were good while they lasted.

I am not sure a leave decision is negative on the long run.  I agree on the short run there will be economic dislocation. 

I have yet to see a good rationale as to why London will remain a major financial center if trade and service barriers are reimposed on England as most of the European heads of state have said they would be.
82  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 06:59:50 pm
RIP the pound, RIP the City of London.

They were good while they lasted.
83  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-Sen: Rubio vs. Beruff vs. Wilcox vs. Murphy vs. Grayson on: June 23, 2016, 04:18:19 pm
^We'll see on election day whose posts were more ridiculous. Smiley

Okay, so who would a sane, logical person trust more? The myriad of posters who live in or near FL who know for a fact that your inane accusations are false, or a Tennessean who has never been to Florida and just enjoys sharing his conspiracy theories?

Also applicable.

It's pretty sad that despite not living in Florida TNVolunteer still knows more about Florida politics than most of you!

If that was true it would be sad! Luckily it's an absurd suggestion.
84  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-Sen: Rubio vs. Beruff vs. Wilcox vs. Murphy vs. Grayson on: June 23, 2016, 02:44:47 pm
^We'll see on election day whose posts were more ridiculous. Smiley

Okay, so who would a sane, logical person trust more? The myriad of posters who live in or near FL who know for a fact that your inane accusations are false, or a Tennessean who has never been to Florida and just enjoys sharing his conspiracy theories?

Also applicable.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sabato Crystal Ball Megathread: Latest NH to Likely D on: June 23, 2016, 10:33:27 am
No tossups? Really Sabato? Not even North Carolina?

Sabato isn't doing toss-ups.
86  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-Sen: Rubio vs. Beruff vs. Wilcox vs. Murphy vs. Grayson on: June 22, 2016, 08:56:39 pm
TN Volunteer, please quit posting about Florida politics until you manage to sit outside one of the top Florida politicos office for eight months. Then you'll know what is going on.

Good god, this so much. TNVolunteer nearly all of your Florida posts have been wildly wrong and completely baseless.
87  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump's Campaign to End Early on: June 21, 2016, 07:42:13 pm
Trump appears to be under pressure.

But although I do not want to suggest it, we now have mentally ill members of the community trying to shoot him.

In my experience, I have found that for every person trying to kill you publically, there are 10 times that amount who are planning it.

If you are out there, and want to kill Trump, please do not use this thread as an inspiration to shoot him.

But my question is "Can he possibly be dumped at the Convention?", especially now that he has a majority of delegates.

Surely if the Republicans dump him, it will be the end of the party.

Why do you have experience with multiple people trying to assassinate you?
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which ticket is more palatable? on: June 18, 2016, 10:49:17 am
Just based on personality and ideology I'd want Trump/Christie. But thinking about it further, Christie has demeaned himself so much to cater to Trump's whims that I have to go Trump/Gingrich. At least Gingrich has shown a backbone and willingness to stand up for himself when he disagrees with Trump.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: "Must Win" Trump States on: June 17, 2016, 10:47:41 am
Only Ohio. I've seen maps of Trump winning without FL, PA, and the others but every map assumes Trump wins Ohio. It's not likely that he wins without FL or PA, but paths do exist. Without OH? Nah.
90  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Will Marco Rubio re-enter the Florida Senate Election on: June 16, 2016, 07:22:20 am
There is way too much in motion at this point for him not to. Getting CLC to say he'll drop out if Rubio runs was a big coup.

Why? CLC is in the mid single digits in the polls and would lose most if not all of that to Rubio if he joined the race. CLC is a nonentity.
91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you own a car? on: June 15, 2016, 03:30:41 pm
My workplace is a 40 minute drive by car from where I live. The only homes in walking distance are either in the ghetto or are several hundred thousand dollars above my paygrade. If you live in a Florida city you have a car, a guaranteed ride, or you're unemployed.

Sounds like Jacksonville

It IS, but it could just as easily be describing Orlando, Tampa, or (especially) Miami. The Miami commuting situation is legendarily bad.

I probably could live closer, but it's worth the drive to stay at a cheap place a block from the beach. Jacksonville is a great place if you're willing and able to drive a few minute to go anywhere.
92  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-Sen: Rubio schedule indicates he's not running on: June 15, 2016, 03:16:24 pm
First David Rivera, then Jeb Bush...will Rubio throw yet another "friend" other the bus for political gain? Yikes!

Ah, yes, because Hillary Clinton is such a majestic and loving human being. Roll Eyes

1. Rivera was a corrupt sleaz, no one has an obligation to defend a corrupt sleaz in politics.
2. Bush failed to understand the number one rule of anything: Those who have "proteges" will eventually get replaced by them. (EX: Bibi defeating Moshe Arens, President Santos abandoning Alvaro Uribe's agenda, etc...etc.. I can cite examples all day)
3. In the case of CLC, I agree, however.


Also, this is a good article about mythical nature of Rubio's apprenticeship under Bush:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/marco-rubio-slew-jeb-bush-mentor-2016-213652

"It’s certainly true that Bush and Rubio admire and support one another....but “mentor” in the traditional sense of working closely with a younger colleague? That did not really happen.

...Rubio describes Bush in his 2012 memoir An American Son as the man he admires most in Florida politics, calling him a “one-man idea factory.” But Rubio uses neither “mentor” nor “protégé” in his discussions of the governor. "


EDIT: Forgot to mention...Bush, Arens and Uribe all have something else in common...they tried to fight back and lost more to their so-called ex-proteges then they ever could've gained.

The view of Rubio as Bush's protege doesn't really come from his book. Bush was a powerful governor and Marco (as Speaker of the House) was perceived by the political class as being inconsequential and little more than an extension of the Governor's office. Bush was seen as encouraging and helping Rubio's career along; is it that much of a stretch to call him Rubio's mentor? Even if they weren't personally close, Bush was both Rubio's superior while they were in Florida office and someone who seriously influenced Rubio's politics and career. Isn't that what a mentor is?

Also, that article is full of crap tangential to this topic. Rubio was always a rising star? He left office practically unknown! The short term limits on Florida legislators doesn't lend itself to establishing name recognition. He says himself that half his neighbors didn't know him when he started his senate run. He was a guy who caught lucky breaks in a lucky year who just happened to have the charisma to take advantage.
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you own a car? on: June 15, 2016, 02:56:32 pm
My workplace is a 40 minute drive by car from where I live. The only homes in walking distance are either in the ghetto or are several hundred thousand dollars above my paygrade. If you live in a Florida city you have a car, a guaranteed ride, or you're unemployed.
94  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump an undercover Russian agent? on: June 15, 2016, 02:43:31 pm
No. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

But yeah, he's certainly got some advising him.
95  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Sword of Damocles - (Sign Up/Rules/Commentary Thread) on: June 14, 2016, 06:07:33 pm
I need to know how my secret invasion on Tonga went Sad

So THAT'S the secret of the "Japanese trade mission"! I knew it!
96  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Sword of Damocles - (Sign Up/Rules/Commentary Thread) on: June 13, 2016, 09:01:54 pm
Wow! Your timing there was really really good.
97  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Sword of Damocles - (Sign Up/Rules/Commentary Thread) on: June 13, 2016, 08:59:20 pm
*bursting with anticipation*

I am too. It would be sad if this game petered out when it was starting to heat up.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump suggests “sports stars” night at the Republican National Convention on: June 11, 2016, 03:28:11 pm
College sports no doubt, which seems to be a growing trend based on people wanting to see white people compete before they all get cut.

The more passionate, genuine, and rapidly growing sport vs the soulless, corrupt, and rigidly corporate NFL machine? I'm not sure Trump fans would dislike the comparision of the two in relation to the candidates, especially since college football rules supreme in Trump country in the South and Midwest.
99  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: So I went to a Trump rally last night ... on: June 11, 2016, 07:27:25 am
One thing I noticed when I went to a Trump rally was that he really lets the crowd influence his speech. So if you had yelled "TALK ABOUT THE WALL" he probably would have gone off on a five minute rant about it. If you've got an obedient and boring crowd you'll have a (relatively) boring Trump.

And yeah, when I went I didn't see many minorities either. I counted 5 blacks out of seven or eight thousand and 2 were removed as protestors.
100  General Politics / Economics / Re: Know the Signs: Obama Derangement Syndrome on: June 09, 2016, 06:23:09 pm
The unemployment poll I could justify as a genuine misunderstanding about the extent of decline in the labor force participation rate. The stock market being lower? I've got nothing.
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