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76  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 28, 2014, 06:20:25 pm
In Gainesville I've seen one Scott sign...and that's it. Nothing else for Governor.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Let's Not Invade Other Regions Act on: October 28, 2014, 10:07:21 am
I don't think the IDS has ever invaded another region. Instead, we have acted in those region's best interests to help enforce the law. I certainly don't want to see our right to do that go away.
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Non controversial Act on: October 26, 2014, 10:16:26 pm
Because of the IDS Fine Act this would mean, I guess, that only the richest billionaire in the IDS would ever have to pay $500 if he littered; anyone else would get a fine of a few dollars or possibly even cents.

EDIT: Ok, working this outusing the highest IDS daily income I could find, you would pay $500 for littering if your daily disposable income was $19,301. If you made $100,000 a year, your daily disposable income would be $139, making your littering fine (unless I've messed the math up, which is probable) $0.27.
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Environmental Act on: October 26, 2014, 10:13:42 pm
Nay; I'm against most regional environmental standards
80  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Will Charlie Crist underperform or outperform Obama? on: October 25, 2014, 10:47:31 am
Underperform. I'd still be very very surprised if this race was decided by more than a point.
81  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Soouth Florida to become its own state? on: October 24, 2014, 11:26:16 pm
Orlando has more in common with North Florida than South Florida; that applies to pretty much everywhere in the state, to be fair. I'd just break apart everything in the Miami orbit, so everywhere that supports Miami over any other Florida team. That would mean West Palm Beach and down. No reason to stick Tampa and Orlando in a Miami-based state.

Just Broward, Dade, PB and maybe Monroe? Nah... Orange/Osceola is definitely not part of N. Florida. Though the North Orlando metro definitely is. Even East Orlando even feels like S. Florida. Its a looong story how I got to know the area. You could probably take in Tampa without having to take in Pasco, I think. There's NPR, but that's the only metro feeling place in Pasco.

Orlando is my blind spot; I admit don't know that area very well.  However, I do know the Tampa suburbs, Clearwater and to a lesser degree St. Pete and they are MUCH more culturally similar to North Florida than South Florida. I know it doesn't make a very pretty map, but unless there's some measure I'm missing I don't see the justification for grouping Miami with pretty much anywhere else in the state but West Palm Beach.

Orlando, at this point, certainly isn't the south. Maybe a few decades ago, but not now. As for the Bay area, we are home to the largest rebel flag in the world, admittedly, but the area is a better example of a melting pot of both cultures than probably any other in Florida. I'd be hard-pressed to call the area Southern, especially St. Pete.

Where exactly is NOT a melting pot in Florida? NOWHERE in Florida is like the South as people here seem to see it, at least not east of Leon. Tallahassee, Gainesville, Daytona, and Jacksonville are mostly bland middle class suburbs you'd find anywhere in the country, just with more blacks. If you were dropped in a Jacksonville suburb you'd find zero cultural differences from one in Tampa, Northern Orlando (the only part of the city I know) or St. Pete.

I agree that Central Florida does have its differences, but if you're only splitting the state into 2 parts I cannot see where anyone could possibly put them with the South over the North; from everything I've seen of it Miami is just a completely different creature from anything else in the state.
82  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: College Football Pick'em- 2014 style on: October 24, 2014, 12:06:56 pm
BYU
Oregon
Kansas State
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Pitt
Stanford
Michigan State
Oklahoma State
TCU
Mississippi State
UCF
Ole Miss
Auburn
Ohio State
Arizona State
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: October 2014 General Election - President and Regional Senators on: October 24, 2014, 11:52:45 am
President/Vice-President:
1. Lumine/Sjoyce
2. Al/Hashemite
3. Marokai/Antonio
4. WI: Seatown/Ben Kenobi

IDS Senator:
1. North Carolina Yankee
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Soouth Florida to become its own state? on: October 24, 2014, 11:28:27 am
Orlando has more in common with North Florida than South Florida; that applies to pretty much everywhere in the state, to be fair. I'd just break apart everything in the Miami orbit, so everywhere that supports Miami over any other Florida team. That would mean West Palm Beach and down. No reason to stick Tampa and Orlando in a Miami-based state.

Just Broward, Dade, PB and maybe Monroe? Nah... Orange/Osceola is definitely not part of N. Florida. Though the North Orlando metro definitely is. Even East Orlando even feels like S. Florida. Its a looong story how I got to know the area. You could probably take in Tampa without having to take in Pasco, I think. There's NPR, but that's the only metro feeling place in Pasco.

Orlando is my blind spot; I admit don't know that area very well.  However, I do know the Tampa suburbs, Clearwater and to a lesser degree St. Pete and they are MUCH more culturally similar to North Florida than South Florida. I know it doesn't make a very pretty map, but unless there's some measure I'm missing I don't see the justification for grouping Miami with pretty much anywhere else in the state but West Palm Beach.
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Soouth Florida to become its own state? on: October 23, 2014, 10:06:25 pm
Orlando has more in common with North Florida than South Florida; that applies to pretty much everywhere in the state, to be fair. I'd just break apart everything in the Miami orbit, so everywhere that supports Miami over any other Florida team. That would mean West Palm Beach and down. No reason to stick Tampa and Orlando in a Miami-based state.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Non controversial Act on: October 23, 2014, 02:39:49 pm
Define littering, tree, yard, and newly constructed.
87  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1944 Presidential Election on: October 22, 2014, 01:12:56 pm
Sinclair, very unfortunately
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: State Representation Act on: October 21, 2014, 08:56:18 pm
Aye
89  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Predict Margin (%) for FL-Gov on: October 20, 2014, 08:49:02 pm
Scott: 48.2%
Crist: 48.0%
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: State Representation Act on: October 17, 2014, 10:11:26 pm
The idea behind this came from the recent crisis; in other regions several Atlasians decided to unilaterally secede their states from Atlasia. Looking back in IDS history, we had a legislator here try to secede speaking for a state which he decided he had power over. I doubt this would change much in practice, but I think the principle that only the elected legislature represents the states should be emphasized in statute.
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS October 2014 Elections on: October 17, 2014, 01:33:46 pm
District 2:
[1] Dereich
92  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1944 Primaries on: October 15, 2014, 08:59:49 pm
Willkie.

Anyone but Taft, really.
93  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you rather have as a Governor? on: October 15, 2014, 07:14:18 pm
If Scott was a criminal, he'd be in jail.

Uh...are you implying that criminals don't get away with crimes? Or get penalties other than jail time?
You can't call Scott a criminal if he wasn't convicted. Unlike some cases (OJ, Zimmerman) where guilt is not in doubt and the verdict was rendered by a technicality, Scott was never in any serious danger. Call him what you want, but he is not a "criminal."

I want to know why you care so much, IceSpear? Your Republican Governor actually may be a criminal who helped cover up a serious scandal. My Governor has no national ambition or presence (unlike his opponent) and will likely not be heard of again after 2019, when his term ends Tongue.

It's a fact that his company engaged in massive Medicare fraud. If that's not a criminal act, then what do you call it?

I've hated him for a very long time now. In fact, I remember being appalled on election day 2010 that Florida, a state known for its retirees, would vote for a Medicare fraudster just because of a national political tide. I'd imagine a good example would be how Republicans felt in 2006 when Rod Blagojevich won despite his 5% approval rating just because it happened to be a pro-Dem year. Since then, his attempts to suppress Democratic votes, rejecting Medicaid expansion, and general right-wing excess intensified my dislike of him. And one of the biggest reasons of all: the fact that he's still competitive in a race where he was supposed to be crushed. If he actually manages to win again just by bankrolling his own campaign and crushing his opponent in tens of millions of negative ads, it will prove that money can buy elections regardless of any other factors, and that's a very scary thing.

As for Corbett, Kane cleared him on the Sandusky charges. There's plenty of reasons to hate him, but that isn't one. The fact that he's more a profile in incompetence as opposed to a criminal or far right ideologue, combined with the fact that he's so obviously been a lame duck for the past year, somewhat mellows my dislike for him. At least relatively. Though I will still be thrilled when Gov.-elect Wolf is given his win, needless to say.


Wow, there is a LOT wrong with your post. Starting with the most obvious:
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his attempts to suppress Democratic votes, rejecting Medicaid expansion, and general right-wing excess intensified my dislike of him

I assume you're talking about voter id laws; in Florida if you vote without an id your vote still counts if you're voting in the right precinct.  Rick Scott supports Medicaid expansion, so that charge makes no sense. "General right-wing excess" is a meaningless statement; if applicable at all it would be more to the legislature than Scott. I can't put a number on it but I believe he's blocked more bills or plans from the right than he has proposed.

As for the Medicaid fraud thing: Scott, as head of the company, was responsible for the culture which caused people to commit fraud to cut costs. Which is to say he had some responsibility for it, but nothing he did could really be called "criminal".

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And one of the biggest reasons of all: the fact that he's still competitive in a race where he was supposed to be crushed.

Nobody who knew anything about Florida politics thought Scott would end up crushed.  Florida is a Republican state; its spread out populace and older demographics make it even more prone to midterm swings to Republicans than others. Scott was never very well liked, but he's done at very least an adequate job as governor:polling in the 30s was NEVER going to last, ESPECIALLY against Charlie Crist.

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If he actually manages to win again just by bankrolling his own campaign and crushing his opponent in tens of millions of negative ads

If Scott manages to win, this will be the least significant of reasons. Last I saw, ad spending was something like ~$35 million for Scott to ~25 for Crist, which is a significant difference but nowhere near enough to overcome polls that were something like 65 Crist 35 Scott. If the Democrats lose it will be because of their candidate, their ridiculous state organization and Republican voters coming home. I said it all last year and I'll say it now: Alex Sink would easily be winning this race. Charlie Crist is a creepy weirdo who won't be able to get the apathetic President-only Democratic voters to go vote. He only inspires confidence in Democratic fanboys (already voting), teachers (should be already voting) and St. Pete politicos. A real Democrat, such as Sink or one of the I-4 mayors, would be favored at this point. The state Democratic party is a joke, for reasons which have been long laid out.

The best charge against Rick Scott is incompetence. The legislature ran rings around him for a few years and even now he's bad at spinning his decisions or getting the legislature to act on them. If I could pick anyone to be governor he'd be FAR FAR from the top of the list. He's still better than Crist though.

There, that's my long Florida post for this election.
94  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: College Football Pick'em- 2014 style on: October 15, 2014, 01:44:05 am
Utah
Boise State
Iowa
Oklahoma
Baylor
Duke
Bowling Green
Louisville
Clemson
UAB
Texas A&M
Ohio State
UCLA
TCU
Ole Miss
Florida
Colorado State
Kentucky
Oregon
Florida State Florida State Florida State Whooo!
Stanford
95  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1940 Presidential Election on: October 13, 2014, 02:33:37 pm
I could never vote for Taft in the 40s and Wallace's platform is too radical. Abstain.
96  Election Archive / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: IA-Sen, Rasmussen: Ernst in the lead on: October 13, 2014, 08:52:50 am
Obligatory >Rasmussen
97  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: College Football Pick'em- 2014 style on: October 12, 2014, 12:47:47 am
I'm sure FSU will stay number one

I feel pretty confident Mississippi State will be #1 tomorrow. Auburn was just a few points behind FSU this past week. Mississippi State will gain all of those votes, and since some voters had us down at 5 or 6, we'll gain a lot on some ballots.

The question is whether FSU or Ole Miss is #2. Ole Miss has the more recent flash, but they were kinda shaky against Boise State and Memphis if any of the voters remember/ever knew/care.

Will they though? I don't think its at all clear. Ole Miss has its Alabama win and a lead in the old computer polls for those who still look at those. FSU will get a huge share of the votes until it loses under the "still the champion until defeated" theory and nothing that happened this week will hurt it. Mississippi State's win over LSU looks less impressive now, and Ole Miss's similar win at A&M mean all State REALLY has going for it that nobody else has is the Auburn win and the voters were never really sold on Auburn anyway; Auburn only got as high as #2 because of goodwill from last year and Oklahoma, Alabama and Oregon losing, not on anything convincing on the field.
98  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: College Football Pick'em- 2014 style on: October 12, 2014, 12:14:49 am
Ok, I give up. I will no longer pick against the state of Mississippi. That Florida game was devastating to see live; the 4th quarter was hope and heartbreak in rapid succession. I'm sure FSU will stay number one; you can make a good argument for both Mississippis, Baylor and FSU as #1. Inertia and SEC vote splitting will keep us there for a while, especially if the Notre Dame game goes well next week.
99  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: College Football Pick'em- 2014 style on: October 11, 2014, 11:09:29 am
Oops, I'm pretty late on this one.

Michigan State
Notre Dame
Baylor
NC State
Clemson
Auburn
Oregon
Northern Illinois
California
Alabama
East Carolina
Penn State
LSU
Ole Miss
Colorado Statw
USC
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: October 08, 2014, 12:27:13 am
I will be running for reelection to the Imperial Legislature
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