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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of 49.8% of Austrian voters on: May 25, 2016, 09:14:11 am
Funnily enough despite what clash said about "leftists" I would say the exact same thing about some leftist parties, for example the Communist Party of Greece. I realized a little while back that part of an indication as to why Greece is so messed up now is that over 12.5% of their population are murderous, sociopathic, genocide desiring thugs (combining the vote totals of the KKE and Golden Dawn to get that number.)

Didn't you vote for a communist though?
2  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Hypothetical: God is disproved on: May 21, 2016, 10:26:21 am
I asked how people would feel and how they'd live their lives if somehow there was 100% concrete evidence there was no higher power and no afterlife.

An impossible question for anyone to answer for reasons that should be fairly obvious. However. Why do you think this question is one worth asking? Now that is an interesting question.

Presumably, he wants people to think about how much of their worldview really stands on their beliefs about God.
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is Mormonism... on: May 21, 2016, 10:14:10 am
If Mormonism had continued to grow in the hermetic direction that the late Joseph Smith was leading it towards, there would have been a significant chance that Mormonism would have ended up as different from mainstream Christianity as mainstream Christianity is from Judaism... but with the reformation that began in the late nineteenth century, it's more like a form of Christian primitivism (and if it keeps moving in that direction, it might become a branch of American Protestantism yet).
4  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Hypothetical: God is disproved on: May 20, 2016, 08:37:05 am
I suspect that most people's response would be, "Reject the proof".
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: May 19, 2016, 06:16:42 pm
He's right of course. Most people of both genders in this country are pretty hard to look at.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: If the last three posters were running for POTUS who would you vote for and why? on: May 18, 2016, 12:19:06 pm
TimTurner. Though I don't know much about his political positions, I suspect that he would combine a respect for economic justice with a level-headed approach to social change.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What do our resident members of the Party of Lincoln think of this quote? on: May 16, 2016, 09:05:50 pm
Horace Greeley employed Karl Marx as his newspaper's European correspondent.

NEVER FORGET
8  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: TIL that the Buddha Is a Christian Saint on: May 13, 2016, 10:54:03 am
That the Buddha is a saint to most Christians, rather than all Christians, is a point without relevance.
9  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: TIL that the Buddha Is a Christian Saint on: May 13, 2016, 10:19:07 am
Catholics aren't Christian?
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: TIL that the Buddha Is a Christian Saint on: May 13, 2016, 08:05:06 am
Am I missing the part where it says one of these saints was Buddha?

It's well-know that Christianity spread to India in the lifetime of the 12 Apostles.

The story of "Josaphat" is too similar to the story of the Buddha (son of a king - imprisoned in his palace because astrologers told his father that he would become a holy man - managed to escape anyway, decided to dedicate his life to religion after encountering a mystic along the road) to be coincidence.
11  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / TIL that the Buddha Is a Christian Saint on: May 12, 2016, 08:05:28 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlaam_and_Josaphat

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Barlaam and Josaphat (Latin: Barlamus et Iosaphatus) are two legendary Christian martyrs and saints, their story probably based ultimately on the life of the Buddha.[1] It tells how an Indian king persecuted the Christian Church in his realm. When astrologers predicted that his own son would some day become a Christian, the king imprisoned the young prince Josaphat, who nevertheless met the hermit Saint Barlaam and converted to Christianity. After much tribulation the young prince's father accepted the true faith, turned over his throne to Josaphat, and retired to the desert to become a hermit. Josaphat himself later abdicated and went into seclusion with his old teacher Barlaam.[2] The tale derives from a second to fourth century Sanskrit Mahayana Buddhist text, via a Manichaean version, then the Arabic Kitab Bilawhar wa-Yudasaf (Book of Bilawhar and Yudasaf), current in Baghdad in the eighth century, from where it entered into Middle Eastern Christian circles before appearing in European versions. The two were entered in the Eastern Orthodox calendar with a feast-day on 26 August,[3] and in the Roman Martyrology in the Western Church as "Barlaam and Josaphat" on the date of 27 November.[4]

Interesting.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Rfayette (read quote before answering) on: May 11, 2016, 06:40:39 pm
Here's the thing, though... if you're a person of Mexican descent who lives in the United States, that's obviously because you believe that the United States is a better country the Mexico*;

No, there are many Americans who happen to live in other countries but don't consider the United States inferior to those countries. I find it bizarre that you would assume this.

Why would you immigrate to a country that you consider worse than the one you just left?

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so, why wouldn't you do everything in your power to assimilate to the country that you yourself (implicitly if not explicitly) recognize as superior?

This doesn't even follow, and it's particularly bizarre in the context of the United States, seeing as that its history of immigration is well known and recognized.

If you do believe that the country you live in is better than the one you left, you would want to keep it that way.

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Incidentally, this line of thinking can be employed as a theological argument: If the God that Muhammad preached about really were the author of human history, wouldn't people from Christian countries be begging to immigrate to Muslim countries, not the other way around?

No?

God wouldn't reward the countries that do his will?
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Rfayette (read quote before answering) on: May 11, 2016, 04:51:13 pm
I am not particularly representative of Mexican immigrants but, what I can tell you, is that most Mexican immigrants are not of the opinion that "America is superior". They tend to think that it offers more economic opportunities and, perhaps, a higher quality of life but they do not think that America is superior. Generally speaking, immigration is an economic phenomenon so it's not much of a surprise that immigrants tend to resist assimilation.

So if immigrants' only interest is to use their host countries' economies, with little to no interest in bettering or improving them... can you see why some natives might be hostile to immigration?
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Rfayette (read quote before answering) on: May 11, 2016, 02:33:19 pm
Your kind promotes a deeply disturbed worldview in which it is perfectly acceptable to demean and debase immigrants and their children for having the deeply discourteous desire to maintain cultural traditions or to fly the flag of their native country.

Here's the thing, though... if you're a person of Mexican descent who lives in the United States, that's obviously because you believe that the United States is a better country the Mexico*; so, why wouldn't you do everything in your power to assimilate to the country that you yourself (implicitly if not explicitly) recognize as superior?

I don't ask this in a snarky or condescending manner, by the way: as someone whose last immigrant ancestors came to this country around the turn of the twentieth century, I'm interested in seeing the outlook of those more in-touch with the immigrant experience.

*Incidentally, this line of thinking can be employed as a theological argument: If the God that Muhammad preached about really were the author of human history, wouldn't people from Christian countries be begging to immigrate to Muslim countries, not the other way around?
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Bangladesh hangs former Jamaat leader Nizami on: May 11, 2016, 02:04:16 pm
What a ridiculous show trial. As viscerally satisfying as this might be, Bangladesh is rapidly going into the sh**tter.

You mean... the street?

Lips sealed
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Obama's visit to Hiroshima on: May 10, 2016, 06:54:34 pm
It would make more sense for them to visit Bataan.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Post the map of an election between the two preceding posters on: May 09, 2016, 05:49:50 pm
When the Democrats nominated an avowed socialist and active tumblr user at their July convention, most observers were convinced that the Republican Party stood no chance of winning in hostile media coverage; however, not to give up without a fight, the Grand Old Party involuntarily drafts a 14-year-old Democrat.



Addendum: After the courts realized that neither candidate was ever actually eligible to President, the highest office in the land is handed over to a reluctant Paul Ryan.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Quiz: Which state best fits you? on: May 06, 2016, 01:30:43 pm
Let's see how things have changed since I last took this quiz...



1. Colorado (100%)
2. Utah (99%)
3. New Hampshire (96%)
4. Vermont (90%)
5. Iowa (89%)

...

47. North Carolina (54%)
48. District of Columbia (50%)
49. West Virginia (45%)
50. Kentucky (43%)
51. Tennessee (39%)

I actually don't hate Appalachia, for the record.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Does this forum completely fail to understand working class whites? on: May 06, 2016, 12:45:53 pm
I don't know many white working class people, and try to avoid them when I can, but it wouldn't surprise me if Atlas were as clueless about them as they are about my people.

In Atlas's defense, at least weeaboos are a small enough demographic that most people can succeed in life without knowing a whole lot about them.

20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: NJ - Monmouth: Clinton +28 on: May 05, 2016, 04:25:54 pm
New Jersey doesn't count because it's a confederate state.

You jest, yet New Jersey was one of just three states to vote against Lincoln's reelection.
21  General Politics / Economics / Re: Solve Income Inequality on: May 05, 2016, 08:03:20 am
If this hasn't been made clear already, I want to explicitly point out that I do not favor dumping trillions of dollars into third world countries without having any idea of how that money will be spent, or what long-term impact it will have. What I do favor is the exact kind of institutional and economic investment that went into Europe following World War II, or, to a different extent, that has gone into China since the 1970s... just done in a less exploitative way.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Harris Wofford's incredible (love) story on: April 26, 2016, 01:22:28 pm
In all seriousness it's kind of heartwarming that we're at the point where elderly gay men can now, too, marry creepily below the acceptable age range.

That was my reaction too. I think true LGBT equality is admitting that there's something kind of off about marrying someone who could be your grandchild, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex.

I'd argue that it i'ts a lot more concerning in heterosexual couples due to the inherent power imbalance between genders, but I know this kind of argument won't go over well here.

Yes, I think the historical prevalence of pederasty weakens this argument considerably.

A 40-year-old = a child?

I meant that the history of pederasty in patriarchal societies shows that homosexual relationships aren't necessarily more egalitarian.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Harris Wofford's incredible (love) story on: April 26, 2016, 12:25:22 pm
In all seriousness it's kind of heartwarming that we're at the point where elderly gay men can now, too, marry creepily below the acceptable age range.

That was my reaction too. I think true LGBT equality is admitting that there's something kind of off about marrying someone who could be your grandchild, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex.

I'd argue that it i'ts a lot more concerning in heterosexual couples due to the inherent power imbalance between genders, but I know this kind of argument won't go over well here.

Yes, I think the historical prevalence of pederasty weakens this argument considerably.
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Nationalism? on: April 25, 2016, 06:22:33 pm
...BRTD thinks ISIS is nationalist?!

They sure aren't being kind to the Kurds or Assyrians.

This surprises you? The Kurds and the Assyrians represent the forces of nationalism; the Islamic State represents the forces of globalization. The two factions are bound to have their quarrels.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: opinion of anti-Nationalism on: April 25, 2016, 02:51:31 pm
Not a big fan of the Islamic State, so Horrible Ideology.
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