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1  General Politics / Book Reviews and Discussion / Re: Recommendations On "Unrest" on: May 27, 2017, 12:16:20 am
The Political Thought of Sayyid Qutb: The Theory of Jahiliyyah and The Power of Sovereignty: The Political and Ideological Philosophy of Sayyid Qutb. These sequential books trace the movement of Islamism in the post-colonial Middle East, but in so doing, they also explore the influence of colonialism on the political thought of a colonized people, the fundamental features of the Western worldview (as perceived by those outside of it), and the ideal relationship between religion and the state.
2  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What were the most anti-christian regimes ever? on: May 24, 2017, 06:00:29 pm
traditional Western distaste for Orthodoxy)

I've naught heard of this before. How "traditional", exactly, is it?
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What are ALL the afterlife options (Heaven/Hell, Reincarnation, No Afterlife...) on: May 24, 2017, 09:09:11 am
That's like most other afterlife options... the living don't know if the dead are really dead or not, but the dead all appear, well, dead.

Proof that it belongs on your list, no?

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What is "life" like in this? What do you think? What do you do?


I imagine that it will be like our life in the world, except true instead of false.

I also possess the persistent fantasy that when humanity wakes from its collective dream, Adam will again find himself in paradise.

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How can you tell that time is going by, that it's "forever"?

In Catholic theology, "eternity" is said to be an attribute to the mind of God, where all things happen simultaneously. That sounds right.

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Or is it like I originally thought you were describing... you "see the light," it's the last thing you perceive, and then you're dead, that's it.

Nah, that can't possibly be it: if our consciousness were at any point to be erased, life should be to us a memory that we forgot. Which is, of course, no memory at all.

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I'd also like to point out that not all people who are "dead" for a little while and come back actually have near-death-experiences.

If some people aren't cut out to live forever, that hardly invalidates my hypothesis.

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Also, for some people who die, like in an explosion, there's no time for the brain to process what's happening.

There's time enough for the brain to die, isn't there?
4  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What are ALL the afterlife options (Heaven/Hell, Reincarnation, No Afterlife...) on: May 23, 2017, 05:09:36 pm
It's the opposite of clear, it just becomes more and more obscure.

You either survive death, or you don't.

From others' perspective, you die; from your own perspective, you live on.
5  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What are ALL the afterlife options (Heaven/Hell, Reincarnation, No Afterlife...) on: May 23, 2017, 03:39:50 pm
That's not an answer.
1. the human mind literally continues after death and hallucinates for eternity (an afterlife of eternal hallucination)
2. there's a hallucination when dying that makes a person feel like they're going to live forever, then they die (no afterlife, option 10 in my list)

Which one?

A cross between the two.

I don't know how I can make myself any clearer.
6  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What are ALL the afterlife options (Heaven/Hell, Reincarnation, No Afterlife...) on: May 23, 2017, 03:02:29 pm
So are you saying or not saying that the human mind continues forever after death in this explanation?

Yes. Subjectively.
7  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What are ALL the afterlife options (Heaven/Hell, Reincarnation, No Afterlife...) on: May 23, 2017, 12:11:52 am
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. You're saying people eternally "hallucinate" an afterlife after they're brain-dead?

I'm saying that the afterlife is a hallucination, generated before we die, which we perceive to last forever. For proof that we can subjectively prolong the duration of time, ask anyone who's smoked weed or taken psychedelic drugs; for proof that we can subjectively live on even after our brain has died, consult one of the many accounts of man's near-death experiences.
8  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What are ALL the afterlife options (Heaven/Hell, Reincarnation, No Afterlife...) on: May 22, 2017, 11:26:08 am
Well, it's not. It's a list of what actually might happen after you die. Not what might happen as you're dying but not after you're dead.

If the hallucinations of the dying can subjectively persist even when the subject is legally dead, then that counts as an afterlife.
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Tender's megathread on crime in Austria on: May 22, 2017, 12:00:12 am
Do no white Austrians commit crimes for you to report on? Or do you prefer to focus on the minorities?

"Whataboutery in response to gang rape - not a good look!"
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What are ALL the afterlife options (Heaven/Hell, Reincarnation, No Afterlife...) on: May 21, 2017, 11:55:04 pm
And the option above about it being a "hallucination" is not an option.

Rude.
11  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Greatest I am on: May 20, 2017, 09:19:53 am
If you want consistent quality, I suggest that you migrate to AAD.

"Let's keep this forum crappy so we can keep boasting about how much better ours is!"

Did you read the rest of my post? It's not that I want this forum to be crappy, it's just that it serves a different purpose.
12  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Greatest I am on: May 20, 2017, 12:51:09 am
That said, now that I've seen that he can "beaten" (in the same way that one beats a video game, not in the way that one beats an interlocutor), I'm in favor of keeping him around.

But why? Even if we assume he's not trolling, how is the manner in which he posts not spamming? How does his manner of interacting with other posters not constitute personal attack? The persistent refusal to do anything about a poster who behaves like this other than MAYBE deleting a few of his posts OCCASIONALLY is utterly bizarre to contemplate and, to be frank, I very strongly doubt that he'd be shown nearly so much laxity if it were any other board than R&P to which he were doing this.

If you want consistent quality, I suggest that you migrate to AAD. The reason I don't support the banning of DL, in spite of the fact that his behavior violates the norms of any serious discussion forum, is that I no longer consider this a serious discussion forum: rather, I view it as a place to "take a load off", and trolling Greatest I am has become a routine part of that experience.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Kalwejt Foundation for the Promotion of Atlas Hilarity on: May 19, 2017, 12:14:57 pm
beer without alcohol is like sex without orgasm

no thnx bruh

Forever laughing at people who needlessly waste their Jing by orgasming during sex. Taoism is the final redpill.
14  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Greatest I am on: May 19, 2017, 09:26:29 am
The sadder spectacle is the need for a circle jerk of posters in the RandP board who persistently engage with him. He clearly can't be that much of a problem if they're getting a kick out of it.

It's hard to ignore a poster who makes it a point to reply to every single post in every single thread.

That said, now that I've seen that he can "beaten" (in the same way that one beats a video game, not in the way that one beats an interlocutor), I'm in favor of keeping him around.
15  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Gnosticism, or mainstream Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Protestant Christianity? on: May 18, 2017, 11:12:54 am
The learned explain what they mean and do not just throw labels around, but you have show  that my "Perhaps that was not your intent." was right on the mark.

Perhaps if your intention was to learn, you would read a book (or a Wikipedia article) once in a while, rather than begging someone with authority to spoonfeed you via YouTube video.
16  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Have you fully read a religious text? on: May 18, 2017, 10:39:31 am
I do not see a text that begins with a talking serpent and ends with a seven headed monster as speaking to life, as those fictional characters have none.

Myths have lessons we can use in life but they do not represent life.

Mother Goose is a children's myth, and quite useful, but it also does not represent life.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear you say that.

Nice argument to show why. Oh wait. Not.

I'm sorry to hear that you'd rather enslave yourself to your emanations, than open your mind to life's eternal possibilities.
17  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Gnosticism, or mainstream Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Protestant Christianity? on: May 18, 2017, 10:36:14 am
I have no idea who you refer to with your, "a proto-post-modern disciple of Schopenhauer,"

Of course not: when communicating knowledge, one must employ the symbols of the learned.
18  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Have you fully read a religious text? on: May 18, 2017, 10:10:13 am
I do not see a text that begins with a talking serpent and ends with a seven headed monster as speaking to life, as those fictional characters have none.

Myths have lessons we can use in life but they do not represent life.

Mother Goose is a children's myth, and quite useful, but it also does not represent life.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear you say that.
19  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Gnosticism, or mainstream Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Protestant Christianity? on: May 18, 2017, 10:08:35 am
Sounds a lot like a Gnostic Christian who gains Gnosis.

More accurately, a proto-post-modern disciple of Schopenhauer, who found the one religion that is overbearingly dark, rather than overbearingly light.
20  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Gnosticism, or mainstream Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Protestant Christianity? on: May 18, 2017, 09:48:35 am
As to the opening question... Borges's "Defense of Basilides the False" is good.

I have not read that one. Why do you think it good?

Because its cosmogony is one where the creation of our world is one brief scene in an epochal drama. In this vision, man doesn't endure evil in the hope of becoming good, but endures obscurity in the hope of becoming significant.
21  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Have you fully read a religious text? on: May 18, 2017, 09:26:48 am
The Christian and Jewish Bibles, and the Quran.

Yes, all three of them "spoke" to me.

Did you rate them by your moral standards?

Morality is for philosophers: I read religious texts for their poetical value.

And here I thought morality was for everyone. Oh well.

Regards
DL

There's a time and a place for morality, and it's not when you're reading a religious text. The reason is that morality is an abstraction, an inference, a conjecture, and is thus, like a demiurge, capable of error. By contrast, religion speaks of life directly, in the same way that poetry speaks of life directly, which is why both poetry and religion (properly so-called) are irrefutable.
22  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Gnosticism, or mainstream Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Protestant Christianity? on: May 17, 2017, 09:49:25 pm
As to the opening question... Borges's "Defense of Basilides the False" is good.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which poster is least like the previous poster? on: May 17, 2017, 05:15:16 pm
RR1997
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 17, 2017, 08:52:43 am
I'm not sure why people are so upset that divorce is widely accepted. It's absolutely necessary for relationships that end up being abusive. Even in relationships that aren't abusive, though, sometimes people grow apart. There's no way to predict that, and relationships that feel as though they will last forever can change, since people change. People should try to marry someone that they do feel as though they could spend their life with, but it's really impossible to predict what will happen in the distant future.

Define "grow apart". Does it just mean losing the intense attraction one feels when one is in a young relationship? If so, that can absolutely be predicted, and shouldn't necessarily be fought against: "comfortable" can sometimes be better than "exciting".

I was talking more about the fact that values can change, experiences change people in unpredictable ways. Comfort is a good thing in a relationship, but since life can change people, sometimes two people feel increasingly less comfortable with one another, and might even feel as though they don't know each other anymore.

I thought the point of family was to be a stable port in an unstable world?
25  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Have you fully read a religious text? on: May 17, 2017, 08:47:39 am
The Christian and Jewish Bibles, and the Quran.

Yes, all three of them "spoke" to me.

Did you rate them by your moral standards?

Morality is for philosophers: I read religious texts for their poetical value.
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