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1  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: will the Roman Catholic Church 'accept LGBT' on/before August 15, 2067? on: Today at 05:49:59 am

That website is hilarious.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Real Life Picture Thread (PAPOY Creepfest 2015) on: July 05, 2015, 04:29:32 am


Sun. At last.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Leave of Absence - Getting Married on: July 02, 2015, 05:34:14 am
Congratulations. It's a great day Smiley
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / CCSF: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 05:28:33 pm
And yet you talk about gay people in the third person again.

I do not feel comfortable being out on that forum.

So you use words like homo fascist, homo reich etc, all forms of hyperbole in a bombastic inflammatory style entirely in keeping with the tone of that forum and suggesting to the posters there that you are in fact 'not gay'. You use some of the most vitriolic, abusive homophobic language you could ever use against gay people, their rights and their loved ones. You try and explain all this away.

But on here you say you are openly gay and grace 'gay conservative circles' but try to be polite and use completely different language (in keeping with the tone of this forum) while claiming you are somehow victimised by us on here.

So two completely different people then?

5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / CCSF: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 05:18:50 pm
And yet you talk about gay people in the third person again.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / CCSF: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 05:08:26 pm
Sometimes, like many, I can use inartful words to describe things - words that were not used in Atlas forum.  Dan Savage, for example, used a homophobic slur to describe Christians once, and he's an anti-bullying advocate. Human beings can use inartful words from time to time.

A three year posting history peppered with 'inartful' words on Free Republic is not, to put it mildly 'time to time.'
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / CCSF: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 04:49:43 pm
That term is used widely amongst gay conservatives. It was actually  coined by Tammy Bruce in "The New Thought Police".

The intolerance is those like the link I showed you last night from TIME magazine, who wants to breach the wall between separation of church and state and end tax exemptions.

If a gay activist was on DU, talking about the "Christian gestapo" (for example), that's not the same as trying to restrict religious freedom.

And yeah, I certainly didn't mean "our marriages" since I myself am not married. So there's no our.

I know gay conservatives who are out, as you say you are. There are a few on here actually. They don't use;

HOMOFASCIST
HOMO-TERRORISM
HOMO MARXISTS
HOMO REICH
(those two are amazing - both fascist and communist)
GAY GESTAPO

Why do you? Why do you use them?

8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / CCSF: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 04:41:15 pm
Yep, you've mentioned those posts thrice.  They weren't my threads though.

So when I click on 'SCOTUS Decision: Gay Marriage Constitutional right and it says:

To: C19fan
Homofascist Gay Gestapo will take away OUR marriages next


20 posted on 6/26/2015, 3:04:28 PM by CountryClassSF
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Then you aren't posting 'Homofascist Gay Gestapo will take away OUR marriages next' to someone called C19fan?

My post, yes. My thread, no. OUR=YOUR. Can't fix typos on FR.

Didn't say it was your thread. I said they were your posts. So you used the language 'Homofascist Gay Gestapo' despite complaining about 'intolerance' from gays.

Now you're saying OUR was actually just a typo and was supposed to say YOUR...
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / CCSF: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 04:35:18 pm
Yep, you've mentioned those posts thrice.  They weren't my threads though.

So when I click on 'SCOTUS Decision: Gay Marriage Constitutional right and it says:

To: C19fan
Homofascist Gay Gestapo will take away OUR marriages next


20 posted on 6/26/2015, 3:04:28 PM by CountryClassSF
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Then you aren't posting 'Homofascist Gay Gestapo will take away OUR marriages next' to someone called C19fan?
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / CCSF: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 04:25:38 pm
Instead, we see mock crucifixes at gay pride parades, extreme hatred directed at Christians, endless smirking and boastfulness about the court ruling -- all on a message of tolerance and love.

11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: July 01, 2015, 03:32:24 am
Special rights are not equal rights.

The gay activists now will go after churches next. Their goal is not only what they label equality under the law, in which legitimate objective observers can see is not equality, but actually discrimination against heterosexuals.. Particularly Christian heterosexuals.

the same people that claim to be anti bullying are perfectly fine with it when it's someone else on the receiving end.

That's the gay agenda folks that I see with my own eyes. It is discussed openly in homosexual circles. Conservatives need to vote. Band together and vote.

I have not been able to sleep for days. These are sad times for our country.

Really?
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mississippi not taking gay marriage ruling well on: June 30, 2015, 05:44:20 am
If God has a gender, what does he use His/Her's genitals for BTW?

He routinely compares its size against other faiths' gods'.

Which is why he can't stand next to Ganesh in the stalls...
13  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 29, 2015, 08:41:27 am
Can we have some words from the mods on this?



CCSF has posted here since January 2013. His post history suggests that for most of this period, after some initial activity when he joined, he tended to post on LGBT themed threads and then drop away again. His activity has recently been greater.

Thereís been quite a lot of goings on since then, but hereís where we stand now. He claims to be openly gay. Thatís the key here; he claims to be openly gay, but feels that he is victimised by the LGBT community on matters where they think they should have rights and he thinks they should not. Whether he is, or isnít gay is of no matter and indeed would not matter if he didnít post under exactly the same username on Free Republic where he is not openly gay and say this:


In this post from FreeRepublic, CountyClassSF said this

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3304515/posts?page=20#20

Quote
Homofascist Gay Gestapo will take away OUR marriages next

That doesn't seem like something a gay person would say.


Using that language and indeed talking about taking ĎOUR marriagesí (as in opposite sex marriages) doesnít indeed seem like something a gay person would say. When I have asked him why he is not Ďoutí on Free Republic, he claims he would be banned.

So he is either gay and pretending to be straight on Free Republic or heís straight and pretending to be gay on Atlas Forum. Or basically, screwing with both forums. In either venue, heís homophobic. On here, he is disruptive and to me thatís what matters.

The issue was raised in the Mod Cave a year ago when Ďbrahí noticed he kept referring to gays in the third person on FP (Ďthe degeneratesí etc) and we took that up. But it didnít go anywhere. Itís now been raised again and put to a vote. Weíve had 10 votes for some sort of ban (permanent, year, three month) to 5 for No ban (2 other). He currently sits at 93 points in infractions.

I am not going to say who is in support of what. I have made the case against him to the point at which Iíve nothing left to say.

For a poster on 93 points, with over half the mods voting for some sort of a ban and three petitions started by Forum members on this board, heís never even been cautioned. And that is quite astounding. It is, in my opinion clear that he is trolling, but many people equate trolling with naughty words, bad links, or spam attacks. Trolling at such a level, where every subject is turned neatly around to be about him and his Ďissuesí which, based on the other information we have on him may in fact just be a troll pretending to be gay who is deliberately trying to de-rail LGBT topics so that they cannot be discussed without going off in a tangent. To me that is the very definition of a troll. However CCSF has been very successful in making people sympathise with his ĎIím really gay and itís hard amongst the other gays, why donít you believe me?í schtick. Which again, would be fine. If he didnít act completely differently on the only other forum where he has an online presence!
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Taking a break. on: June 28, 2015, 06:32:33 pm
I'm pretty much done dealing with inaction over one of the most obvious trolls we've ever had who won't stop PMing me and another poster's transphobia effectively being shrugged off.

For the moment, I'm done having to wade through a pity party in every thread. You've a right to fire away at a mod but I do care about this place and want discussion to be seamless and on track.

I've been bested and beaten down by a Free Republic troll and the fact I've given up sickens me.
15  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 06:12:19 pm
I'm trying to get something done. But it's unlikely action will be taken.
16  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 03:35:59 pm
Out of fear of the same type of villification that you are giving to me, I do not discuss my opinions on the gay marriage issue with gay people. Simply announcing that I am involved in conservative activism is enough to be villified.

Why is villification against me OK, but objecting to SSM not? Tolerance has to be a two way street.

I don't villify you. You villify yourself every day. Which is immensely sad. If I actually ever met you, I'd hug you.
17  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 03:26:02 pm


Why lash out at people who are happy?  Why call them Homofascist? Why imitate vile homophobes and use their language? No one is going to date you or support you; it's like a self loathing jew who is anti semitic wondering why a jew won't date them.

I'd ask them, why lash out at people because they advocate for conservative causes? That's what I'm saying, my being gay has caused me personal pain.  Naysayers might want to do an experiment sometime on what happens when you reveal your conservative political affiliation to gays.

I think I said before, but maybe didn't explicitly say, that I don't reveal my opinions on SSM to my gay friends, or to dates.  Jews by nature cannot be anti-semitic because your religious faith is chosen, as opposed to sexuality, which is not.  I see nothing abnormal about disliking what has caused me personal grief.  If judaism caused  personal grief, they can just leave the faith - sexuality, one doesn't have that luxury

You call gay people and causes 'homofascists' and the 'gestapo'.

You do realise, gay people have a rightnot to like you? The simple fact is, you're not happy, so you don't want anyone else to be. Yet when people call you out on that, you whine and call them 'intolerant'. You wonder why when you sh-t on peoples choices; or to be personal for a second, my happiness, my husband, our family, our friends, our neighbours that people don't want to be associated with you? But then you run along to another forum, which would ban you for being gay (and probably thinks you're more of a faggot for being so goddam gutless about it) and then spew absolute filth?

Be a man and actually take control of your waste of a life.
18  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 03:12:57 pm

You're still here aren't you? After what, a year. We mustn't be that extreme...

What is it that you think the 40% lgbt posters on here need you to enlighten them on? What wisdom do you bring?

Two and a half. I'm talking about the mob of people who obviously cannot handle disagreement on social issues, and are quick to say things like "I'm hijacking a thread" because I state an opinion and then 40 people start attacking me, and I dare to respond to a few.  Things like that. That's what I think is unreasonable.

So what I'm saying is, those people, would prefer this forum become DU.

I don't know the 40% of people and I'm not a preacher.  I would advise particularly gay men, that their superficiality and image focused mentality causes pain to others.  

When otherwise nice dates end when they find out you're a Republican activist. Just a random example.  I guess it doesn't "get better" for me huh? -- when you have to hide who you are within that community, just to maintain friendships at a minimum.

When one gets attacked and maligned for not wishing to participate in Pride, for starters. Maybe it doesn't get better for that person.

Maybe it doesn't get better for me, for when I picked up my laundry Friday evening at gay owned laundromat I've been going to for a decade, and answered "I'm doing okay, thanks" to a "How are you?" question, and the response is "How can you not be ecstatic after today? I dont know anyone who's not celebrating right now!" (Not to mention I just got over the worst bronchitis of my life).  Doesn't get better.

Why lash out at people who are happy?  Why call them Homofascist? Why imitate vile homophobes and use their language? No one is going to date you or support you; it's like a self loathing jew who is anti semitic wondering why a jew won't date them.
19  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 02:34:04 pm


Then why aren't you out on Free Republic? You call us intolerant. If the company you keep there are the 'real' tolerant people they surely won't mind.

Because you know I would be zotted from FR if I mentioned that I was gay there.  It's the same mentality by some here, if someone presents an opinion that others derive as "Extreme," they must be a troll. Many would prefer this forum just be a satellite of DU--or at minimum, the "socially liberal underground."

You're still here aren't you? After what, a year. We mustn't be that extreme...

What is it that you think the 40% lgbt posters on here need you to enlighten them on? What wisdom do you bring?
20  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 02:23:12 pm

Second question. Do you say these things on Freep so they don't suspect you are gay?

Who knew what other people post on a completely different forum was so important?

 Debate is okay, you know.

FR would have no reason to suspect I'm gay.

Liberals simply choose to end debate by silencing their opposition - just like Alinsky taught.

Then why aren't you out on Free Republic? You call us intolerant. If the company you keep there are the 'real' tolerant people they surely won't mind.
21  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 02:13:21 pm

Do you think it respectful to use that language given the Gestapo actually rounded up Homosexuals and suspected Homosexuals into camps and ovens?

Considering the tactics used are fairly similar, such as shutting down businesses that do not support the agenda, intimidating people into submission/silence, that is what happened in the Weimar Republic prior to the Third.

No. They are not similar. Not in a million years.

Second question. Do you say these things on Freep so they don't suspect you are gay?
22  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 02:03:59 pm


Why am I the Gestapo? Why am I a fascist? Please explain.

I didn't call you either of those things. The term Gay Gestapo was coined by lesbian conservative Tammy Bruce - there's a clear distinction between that and every gay person being labeled that

Do you think it respectful to use that language given the Gestapo actually rounded up Homosexuals and suspected Homosexuals into camps and ovens?
23  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban CountryClassSF on: June 28, 2015, 01:56:14 pm
I'd say you're trolling Free Republic if you're needing to go through discussions on other forums to argue for my banning here.

I've highlighted my posts on FR supporting conservative gays in other threads on here, since many seem obsessed with FR. Interesting how you didn't post those since you had enough time on your hands to search for posts in a different forum.

Why am I the Gestapo? Why am I a fascist? Please explain.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should churches that don't perform gay marriages lose their tax-exempt status? on: June 28, 2015, 06:42:57 am
They shouldn't have tax exempt status.

However I have a feeling that people (even young evangelicals) will eventually walk with their feet in the next ten years or so if an LGBT church member is refused marriage within their shared church.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 28, 2015, 06:40:14 am
CCSF, have you ever considered getting on the "gay to straight conversion" speaking circuit?  You might find it to be a lucrative venture, and you seem to have the skillset for it.

I don't believe in conversion being a possibility - but if I could, I would

I just can't believe you are actually gay. Like, have you ever had a gay experience? I assume not because I doubt you'd want to change after.
Not all people who have been subjected to useless conversion therapy were forced to by others.

Not directly, but being in a bad situation socially, communally or religiously can feck people up and make them hate themselves.
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