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1  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 27, 2015, 09:44:33 am
BRIEFING - Today's manoeuvres.

Capitan Afleitch will today personally escort the Speaker of the House of the Atlasian Republic to the border/border authorities and ensure his protection from xenophobic government forces.

Didn't realize that I was going on a trip - let me pack my bags!

My understanding is that Speaker Cris is Speaker of Atlasia.

From not knowing that Armed Forces constitute an air force and navy to forgetting what country people are in does not fill the Armed Forces with confidence, despite attempts to undermine the integrity of this force Wink
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion: Cameron 2.0 on: August 27, 2015, 08:25:10 am
It's 'Better Together's' payday.
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Paraguay successful at denying 11-year old incest victim abortion on: August 27, 2015, 06:52:24 am
Depends on the 11-year old whether a pregnancy would be a danger.  For most it would be, but the doctors were of the opinion it wasn't in this case. At some point you have to trust experts, or does that only apply to global warming?  The pregnancy was well past the point where I think abortion on demand must be an option and close to the point where I think it should not be an option, so despite that not being in Paraguayan law, it didn't have much of an effect.

This is a hard case, but it looks like other than they should have caught on to what was happening sooner, I can't say that I fault the Paraguayan authorities here. The fetus was close to viability, the female was not at immediate risk, and I don't believe rape or incest should make abortions easier to obtain.  The sole valid justification for restricting abortion is to protect what is considered to be a human life and no matter how vile the biological father is, that vileness has no bearing on whether it is a human life.

So astoundingly disconnected.

‘Depends of the 11 year old’ Depends on her what Ernest? Her pelvis, her vagina? I mean is that what’s important here when it comes to identify what qualifies as a danger to women; their physicality. Is it that base? You’re not stupid, so are you that ‘wicked’ to think that a woman’s mental health doesn’t matter? Are you 6 years old? I mean I ask that really; are you 6? Do you think a ‘seed get’s planted in mommy’s tummy’. Do you know what a pregnancy does to a woman? Obviously you’ll be thinking about the physical, but do you know what it does to a women psychologically? Even when it’s her partners and she wants it. Now imagine you’re 11. 11 years old and you’re raped, actually no, in this case she was 10. 10/11; doesn’t matter. It’s all about how roomy her gooch is I get it. You’re raped which is all sex can be at that age, not by a stranger but by someone you know. A relation. Who doesn’t even have the decency to wear any form of protection because, maybe he’s being a good Catholic. Maybe he think’s (because there’s good theological ground to interpret it this way) that it’s more of a crime than actually raping her.

But no, doesn’t matter. ‘Depends on the 11 year old’ No it doesn’t Not in a million years does it ‘depend’ on and 11 year old. NO ELEVEN YEAR OLD IS ‘READY’ TO DEAL WITH BEING RAPED AND FORCED TO GIVE BIRTH. NONE. PERIOD. GOT IT? GOOD.

Right, ‘the doctors didn’t think it was a danger’. Physically or mentally? Obviously only one is important enough to you, so let’s look at that one. Do you think doctors in a country with legal force against abortion, social stigma, stigma amongst some in the medical practice, do you think with their jobs at risk, or subtle threats to their professional status for ‘facilitating abortion’ (Go look it up. Take five minutes. On me), how often do you think they’re going to say ‘she can’t have the child’? Because I think the answer is going to be pretty f-cking low. Don’t you think? Even if you don’t take the position I do in that no 11 year old child rape victim is in anyway ‘ready’ to carry a child.

No one gives a damn about human life. Not really. If they did they’d have dealt with this from the get go. No. She was a football. A willing little modern day ‘Maria’ dragged out to full term so that they could simply say ‘no’ and show the braying crowd that they were hardliners on ‘protecting life’ while f-cking with hers.
4  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 27, 2015, 06:46:51 am
BRIEFING - Today's manoeuvres.

Capitan Afleitch will today personally escort the Speaker of the House of the Atlasian Republic to the border/border authorities and ensure his protection from xenophobic government forces.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Two TV journalists shot dead live on air on: August 27, 2015, 06:40:57 am
Has no-one ever heard of Dunblane?

I was a school kid in Aberdeen during Dunblane. I remember it and the aftermath very well. What's your point?

Loner/man who felt slighted by own community + gun = easy carnage.
6  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Nature May Have A Profound Effect On Our Religiosity on: August 27, 2015, 12:08:15 am
Are you all just reading what you want to read?
7  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 26, 2015, 03:53:19 pm
BRIEFING - Today's manoeuvres.

The 1st Army of Uruguay is still patrolling our nations undetermined capital region.

The 4th Army of Colombia is patrolling our land border with Panama. There have been reports of people trying to cross the border.
8  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How often do you read the Bible? on: August 26, 2015, 11:30:18 am
Resolved 1900 years ago?  You mean before many books were formally  written down, declared canon and before most of the ecumenical councils declared what was doctrine or heresy?
9  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 25, 2015, 06:02:31 am
Mr. afleitch, does the armed forces have to be approved by Parliament before it is activated?

Perhaps the Minister of Foreign Affairs would like to comment on this as well.

The armed forces exist irrespective of Parliament. The armed forces exist to protect the Workers.

But Captain Afleitch, loosely speaking, our society consists of the upper, middle, and lower classes, not simply what you refer to as the Workers, or, what may be referred to as the working class.

Does this armed forces, or this militia, not have the responsibility to protect all in society, not simply one group in society?  And if not, these armed forces or this militia are surely not performing their full and proper function in society, i.e. to serve and protect all members of our society.

We can assume that the new parliament will be enacting legislation to protect the rights of workers and others in society.

And not to be difficult, but simply for matters of clarification, please explain from where, or from which authority, the rank of Captain has been bestowed upon you.


This type of bourgeois thinking is in danger of stifling this country. This is South America, a developing continent. This is not Atlasia where everyone from the billionaire to the unemployed thinks of themselves as 'middle class'.

All who struggle against the ruling class are the Workers. The Armed Forces support the Workers and will continue to do so. We will watch keenly as a Conservative administration takes it upon itself to determine the constitutional make-up of this nation and the rights that people are entitled to, constrained as it may be with ideological baggage.

The Armed Forces determines it's organisational structure

Sincerely,

Capitan Afleitch
10  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 24, 2015, 02:34:40 pm
Do we have a Navy???

And what about an Air Force?

Armed Forces usually covers such defenses Smiley
11  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How often do you read the Bible? on: August 24, 2015, 05:53:52 am
Sigh....you can find good solid theological resources explaining those verses in their proper context, but I guess you just want to be annoying about it.

When reading stories of gathering 200 foreskins for Saul to marry Michal, female bears killing children for mocking a bald man, Noah exiling his previously unmentioned grandson after Noah got drunk, god saying to Moses that the blind, lame, deformed, crippled, people with eye defects or damaged testicles cannot offer at the temple, Ezekiel being commanded to lie on his left side then right side and eat bread baked over a fire of cow sh!t (after bartering it down from his own sh!t), Jesus cursing fig trees and magicking coins out of a fishes mouth…

Then I don't think pointing out the absurdity of these is 'being annoying' about it. Perhaps the issue isn’t ‘proper context’ but that there perhaps is no context. It’s just an assemblage of stories.  If it’s all about context and metaphor and interpretation then it’s not worth anything.

I'll bite on one.

The bible is very clear on slavery. ‘You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners.’ ‘You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance’ (Lev 25:44-46)

Exodus 21:2-6 gives specific instructions as to how Hebrew slaves are to be treated; freed after 7 years but his wife and children belong to the master. The slave, if he loves his wife and children may elect to remain a slave forever. He is to be publically branded as such with the piercing of his ear by and awl. By holding a slaves wife (which the same passage says is a wife ‘given’ to him by his master) and their children hostage by law, a master can effectively own his Hebrew slave forever.

The truth about these passages is inconveniently uncomfortable for Christians; the instructions are straightforward. We happen to know now that owning a person is morally impermissible. So when faced with what is clearly a straightforward passage, apologists assume that there must be something unknown, some ‘context’ that justifies them. If you read these in any other document it would be very straightforward for a Christian to declare them immoral. If they were found in any other holy text they would no doubt be used to discredit the text and the religion. There would not be the search for the context or the subtext of what is being said.

Considering this, I struggle to understand in what context, even if one was to be entertained, that the purchase of slaves as a permanent and inheritable property is ever justified. Whether you own another person for 50 years or 5 minutes it is still an immoral proposition no matter how 'well' they are treated or however you wish to categorise bondage. The Bible endorses human ownership. You can own a person. You can beat them as a punishment as long as it doesn’t cause their immediate death. If it takes them a few days to finally die, then their master can go unpunished. That is morally reprehensible.

Yet we are told that this is the most perfectly moral book ever written and inspired by the most loving and perfect being conceivable. Perhaps in fact, there is no divine, compassionate subtext or context beneath the slavery and the genocide commanded in scripture. Perhaps it is what it is.
12  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 23, 2015, 04:40:35 pm
BRIEFING - Today's manoeuvres.

The 1st Army of Uruguay is currently patrolling our nations undetermined capital region. Smiling faces greet our soldiers on street corners. There is some confusion amongst civilians who are not sure what to do, and whether it is sanctioned by parliament. We are re-assuring civilians that they can continue with their daily lives and that salaries will be paid.

The newly installed 'PARLIAMENT WILL DETERMINE ALL' signs have been subject to graffiti. We have yet to determine what the law is on graffiti, or on public assembly so have been reluctant to take any action against civilians.

The changing of the guard, now playing orchestral remixes of slightly out of date but culturally relevant songs has proven a popular attraction for tourists as we raise our glorious flag of still to be determined design.
13  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 23, 2015, 04:17:43 pm
Mr. afleitch, does the armed forces have to be approved by Parliament before it is activated?

Perhaps the Minister of Foreign Affairs would like to comment on this as well.

The armed forces exist irrespective of Parliament. The armed forces exist to protect the Workers.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: All about yourself! on: August 23, 2015, 02:31:31 pm
If you could pick a nationality: hmmm...Scottish, maybe?

Good choice Smiley
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: "Cathcon" just sent me a gay porn on: August 23, 2015, 02:01:10 pm
I got it too. Why send gay porn as 'spam' to gay posters? Terrible spamming skills on show there.
16  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: National Congress of Labour (NCL) on: August 23, 2015, 11:35:13 am
The Army supports the Workers.
17  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 23, 2015, 06:35:50 am
Sure, but can they fight?

The core principle of the gendarme is to maintain order in the lawless vacuum in which citizens currently exist. Order need not require force.

My men and women can however fight. But why on earth would they need to?
18  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Capitan Afleitch of the Armed Forces of South America. on: August 23, 2015, 06:13:13 am
I am chief general of the Armed Forces of South America because reasons. I am very approachable. My office is directly opposite Parliament House. It's so close you could almost shoot into it! The increased military presence around Parliament is purely coincidental and citizens have nothing to fear.

The Guardia Civil are pleased to assist you in all matters from petty crime to traffic regulations.

Curfew will not be in place today.

PS  Our soldiers are hot.

19  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: There shouldn't be a stigma against rules simply to avoid being like Atlasia on: August 23, 2015, 06:03:24 am
Yeah. This is getting ridiculous.
20  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Christian values on: August 23, 2015, 04:07:53 am
Don't you think that our liberal way we are following now is a way to nowhere? More and more people turn into gays because it's cool and trendy now, our birth rates are lowering day and the morals are almost no existent. Maybe we should turn back to the past and remember about Christianity? I don't mean that we need to become religious, Christianity just makes us better people. Everything just went too far. Now we have transgenders and tomorrow we will have transanimal people. It's not a society I want to live in.

Gay couples show more 'family values' and 'Christian values' than most Christians do because they know real suffering. They know what it means to actually have to try against adversity.

Oh and if Christian values are those old values which devalued women and children then f-ck them. I don't want them back.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Was jmfcst a better poster than Einzige? on: August 22, 2015, 10:33:05 am
A fifty something man with a family 'owning' people on the internet is not a particularly admirable trait.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Illinois bill banning conversion therapy for minors signed. on: August 22, 2015, 10:30:16 am
You guys don't own the person in question nor has he ever publicly sided with you, so while you retain the right to be annoyed also remember to take a more pragmatic approach to his actions.

He's a politician. I expect weasel positions from politicians so I'm not actually that fussed Smiley
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Illinois bill banning conversion therapy for minors signed. on: August 21, 2015, 05:29:24 pm
Heterosexuality isn't 100% genetic. What's your point?
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Josh Duggar had paid Ashley Madison account on: August 21, 2015, 03:43:11 pm
Wife 'partly blames' herself for refusing sex. Also ass hat Sam Rader also got busted. Aren't Christian family values wonderful.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Illinois bill banning conversion therapy for minors signed. on: August 21, 2015, 12:56:42 pm
Baby steps are still steps Smiley Though still annoyed at the vote of our resident insider.

That is quite unfortunate. Was it for political expediency or genuinely held beliefs?

I doubt supporting the mental abuse of children contrary to psychological good practice is a 'genuinely held belief ' so probably the other one.
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