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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: ScotVote - A Scottish Election Series (Master Thread) on: Today at 11:52:32 am
Love it Cheesy
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Scottish Independence Refrendum; Brexit on: Today at 11:50:36 am
Yes/Remain/Yes.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 22, 2017, 02:43:20 pm
I'm starting to think the Tories might actually struggle to get a majority. Something has shifted; May is stuck either repeating herself and her mantra, which brings her down, or making u-turns which makes a mockery of those mantra which also brings her down.

There's an uplift in the Labour vote which isn't coming from UKIP, or from the Tories etc but from a broad base of voters who simply disappeared 20 years ago. That might be enough to fight the Tories to a similar result to 2015, even with the Tory vote share also going up.

This week might just be an electoral fart. Ask me in a week Tongue
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Gym Goers! What Gym do you go to? on: May 22, 2017, 12:56:01 pm
A university gym.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 21, 2017, 12:52:34 pm
I don't feel British...so meh.
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Non alcoholic beer with a craft beer taste. Let's replace alcoholic beer. on: May 21, 2017, 12:04:06 pm
Glasgow is the home of Brewdog, Innis and Gunn and the Drygate. Everyone drinks craft beer. It's not a 'hipster' thing.
7  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Greatest I am on: May 19, 2017, 03:04:19 am
The sadder spectacle is the need for a circle jerk of posters in the RandP board who persistently engage with him. He clearly can't be that much of a problem if they're getting a kick out of it.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 18, 2017, 08:49:07 am
Actually, I wouldn't be suprised if the Tories are overestimated at Labour's expense. Labour seem to be rallying anti-Tory opposition to them. The polarisation is quite something.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 17, 2017, 12:31:15 pm
Slightly off topic, but the Labour Party group on Aberdeen City council have been suspended for going into coalition with the Tories against Labour's wishes. One Lib Dem also defected to join the new independent grouping.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 17, 2017, 12:28:41 pm
Gay or Lesbian Relations: Always morally wrong (if sexual)

In what way isn't a gay or lesbian relationship sexual? Is kissing not sexual? Is cuddling not sexual? Is thought not sexual? Or is it anal penetrative that you have an issue with?
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians on: May 16, 2017, 01:56:18 pm
BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 16, 2017, 01:54:26 pm
Labour did the right thing by putting any old pish in their manifesto. Get's it out of their system.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 16, 2017, 05:50:49 am
There hasn't been a Scotland wide poll all month so far. YouGov's regional poll was their old one. I think people are enjoying the idea of what Scotland is going to do, rather than actually poll it.
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 16, 2017, 05:44:49 am
This is one of those issues where large portions of the left frustrate me. There's such a preoccupation with leveling hierarchies and dismantling the social structures that support those hierarchies that the harm done by leaving no realistic or sustainable replacement that fulfills the same functions is ignored.

I mean let's be clear about this: it's no coincidence that so many sexual abuse scandals occurred in the 1970s and 80s; i.e. after the collapse of various enforced Moral Orders (which had their flaws and faults and trapped many people, but, it must be admitted, protected others) but before certain mostly feminist derived concerns became mainstream.

As someone who worked on these cases at a government level that's not quite true. Reporting of abuse from that era by still living victims is higher because of the collapse of 'moral institutions' (and literal institutions) allowing freedom to talk and to be believed. Equally where those institutions and codes still exist, particularly in the Asian community, reporting levels are in many aspects dangerously low. When it comes to the LGBT community the last 50 years of progress hasn't happened. Far right dog whistling aside it's a real problem and progressive community groups need to be empowered.

Unchecked authority is the key indicator of where abuse can be allowed to exist (elder abuse in care homes lacking state intervention is one worrying development) As such you can only really 'model' historical records of institutuonal abuse and from what I know that's been on a downward trend. Abuse in the family home is a different beast.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Amish? Should they be forced to integrate? on: May 15, 2017, 02:47:42 pm
Given the structure of Amish school education an additional two or three years probably isn't going to 'expand' anything. Bear in mind as recently as my parents generation, finishing education at around 14 and then learning a trade/craft was common. Unless the Amish restructure their economy as we have done (which of course they won't) I can't see why it should be imposed on them.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 15, 2017, 06:31:57 am
The point is that "it happens" is a terrible argument for claiming that anything is morally justified, regardless of what particular thing you're trying to justify. Bad things happen. If they didn't, we wouldn't need morality.

I don't think consensual sex is a moral issue. Functions of the body including self and mutual pleasure are amoral. Age of consent laws are in place to protect teenagers from adults. If teenagers under the age of consent who are 'physically adult' have sex it's also an amoral issue and not really something I care too much to police. You can only educate.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Local Elections, 4th May 2017 on: May 14, 2017, 04:29:22 pm
The pattern of Labour won wards is pretty striking isn't it lol.

Isn't it Smiley



Also need a picture of a pithead, but...

Worth noting that council party loyalties in Monklands remained untouched. Which was a actually a surprise given the oft overheard murmurs that the 'SNP are for Catholics'

18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 14, 2017, 03:45:32 pm
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

I had sex when I was 16, with another 16 year old when the age of consent was still 18. If you want to feign outrage go ahead. It happens. I don't feel the need to police the sex lives of teenagers.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Local Elections, 4th May 2017 on: May 14, 2017, 02:50:46 pm
It'd be interesting to see a comparison between that map and the map in the last set of local elections in which the Tories did comparably well.  I'm not sure when that would have been though: probably one of the last set of the two-tier council elections but the smaller wards and different voting systems would skew things

1982 regionals probably, in which they also took 25% of the vote. It was FPTP and not all wards were the same size, wards in Glasgow were 6 times larger than those in the Highlands

20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 14, 2017, 02:18:49 pm
Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Unacceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Not really a moral issue. I'm not going to wear a fur coat, but I'm not going to throw blood over tribal dress
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Acceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.
Pornography (36%): Acceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable
Suicide (18%): Not a moral issue
Polygamy (17%): Generally Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Only within the grounds of embryological research. We've not yet had a cloned post natal human. Ask me then.
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Acceptable in hindsight if the couple explain their reasons with each other
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Local Elections, 4th May 2017 on: May 14, 2017, 02:11:37 pm
The pattern of Labour won wards is pretty striking isn't it lol.

Isn't it Smiley

22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Local Elections, 4th May 2017 on: May 14, 2017, 12:07:39 pm
Scottish results.

My map is a little different from others as I don't treat independents like a bloc. They only 'win the ward' if one independent outpolls all other parties.

23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 13, 2017, 03:09:47 pm
Problem is Labour would rather have the Tories rule until the sun expands than have a Blairite lead them to victory.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 13, 2017, 03:01:57 pm
Meanwhile in Scotland
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gallup: Americans Hold Record Liberal Views on Most Moral Issues on: May 13, 2017, 02:29:54 pm
You're still reading an intimation into what I said that I clarified, or attempted to clarify, wasn't intended.

The fact that you remember that "issue" from eighteen months ago and I don't says way more about your attitude towards me than I could.

I haven't been "reading up in" a socialist Catholic theological "persona"; I've developed it myself and I'll have you know that in my actual relationships with other people it's made me more forgiving and allowed me to develop more sympathy for people who aren't like me. I'm sorry that doesn't come across in discussions on a political forum almost completely abstracted from what admittedly little ~adult life experience~ I do have, but I'm going to go ahead and say here and now that I'm not "better than this", I don't wish to be "better than this", and you're not going to make me "better than this" with your constant armchair criticisms of my personality or beliefs, which I "retreat" from because there is no point to engaging, BECAUSE WE HAVE ORTHOGONAL RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. So stop, please.

No. If you can't engage with what makes you uncomfortable, even where it pisses you the world off, then there's no point in you being here.

Welcome to ignore, jackass.

Just proving my point sadly Sad
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