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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why is SSM such a big deal? on: Today at 04:09:52 am
He is an angry man with a self destructive streak who knows nothing of love or devotion. Quite frankly he can go f-ck himself.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: May 21, 2015, 03:10:59 pm
A friend and his other half from America staying with us (who was not injured) was involved in a serious road traffic accident. His other half is here and will be here for as long as it takes but our friend has been unconscious for three days and is critical. Things are a little tough right now.

He passed away today.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why is SSM such a big deal? on: May 21, 2015, 07:08:07 am
The idea that marriage is granted by the government doesn't really sit well with me though. It should be a religious sanctum

So non religious people shouldn't be allowed to get married, or religious people shouldn't be allowed to get married if no church wants to marry them?
4  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Northern Ireland: Bakers have no right to free speech on: May 20, 2015, 02:59:36 pm
Actually, all the test cases brought by Christians (almost exclusively against gays I might add) against UK Equality Law on issues from cakes, to marriages to healthcare, counselling and massaging people's feet (seriously) have failed for pretty much the same reasons and have ultimately strengthened case law through precedent.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you a member of a labor union? on: May 20, 2015, 12:03:42 pm
Yes. The Public and Commercial Services Union.
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Mad Men is back on: May 19, 2015, 06:16:29 am
So...?
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: May 19, 2015, 06:14:30 am
I want so badly to be a normal woman.

No you don't. Because then you wouldn't be you. 'Normality' is overrated.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Labour leadership election. on: May 17, 2015, 12:03:51 pm
I note that Murphy even bowed out on that note (classy).

The Herald gave a rundown of what actually happened

He won 17-14. He voted for himself. Under the rules the SEC should include two Labour MP's but there was only one. Harriet Harman sent a letter saying the spot would be taken by life peer Meta Ramsay, a friend of Murphy's who voted for him.

At the meeting, a letter signed by 10 MSPs was handed to the SEC which called on Murphy to quit.

The ten were: Claudia Beamish; Duncan McNeil; Elaine Smith; Margaret McCulloch; Margaret McDougall; Neil Findlay; Cara Hilton; Jayne Baxter; Rhoda Grant; and Alex Rowley.

'After the vote, Murphy failed to tell fellow SEC members that he was planning to announce his resignation at a press conference...Murphy and his allies had spent the previous week trying to shore up support amongst different elements in the party.'

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Boyack might be a good interim.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Breaking News: New forum is up and running - sign up now! on: May 17, 2015, 10:53:06 am
Good luck Smiley
10  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Christian school principal makes racist comments at graduation, blames Satan on: May 17, 2015, 10:33:13 am
This isn't a Christian school?

The woman had taught at a Christian school before, but browsing the school's website, I can't find anything that would indicate that this was a religious institution of any sort. Browsing the course list, which is available online, the only course with any religious content is a "world's religions" class.

The title of the thread should be changed, it's false and inflammatory.

If you read it 'Christian School' then it would be, but it's clearly supposed to read; 'School Principal, who is Christian'
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: May 17, 2015, 09:34:06 am
A friend and his other half from America staying with us (who was not injured) was involved in a serious road traffic accident. His other half is here and will be here for as long as it takes but our friend has been unconscious for three days and is critical. Things are a little tough right now.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Post-Election Analysis on: May 17, 2015, 08:57:49 am
Worth noting that the British voter seems to be far more forgiving of public Labour 'splits' than public Tory ones, so there's less at stake if Labour factionalise.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Labour leadership election. on: May 17, 2015, 08:56:05 am
A small contingent of MPs verbally somewhat open to the notion of Independence would probably have done wonders in preventing the cataclysm of 2015.

That's the key point of the past twelve months if there ever was one. Was Labour really telling the public that despite the fact that anything from 20-35% of their own voters voted 'Yes' that not one sitting MP, MSP or even councillor of note were with them? Not one? Even during the old devolution campaigns you could identify Labourites of note who were against or not particularly warm to the idea of devolution as it waxed and waned as Labour's official policy. And that, even with Labour's extreme centralising tendencies, was okay.

The referendum campaign elevated Labour in Scotland for the first time into a publicly 'Unionist' party despite never being that (and to it's credit, Labour helped keep a lid on potential Ulster style schisms over the past 100 years appealing to the Labour movement which did transcend religious divisions) and essentially 'holed' itself amongst it's core west central Scotland 'Catholic' vote (which it got 50+% of even in 2007) The 'biggest of the big' swings against Labour were in these seats; West Dumbartonshire, Glasgow NE and SW, Coatbridge, Motherwell etc.

If Scottish politics re-orientates itself along civic (rather than religious) Nationalist/Unionist lines, then Labour are going to struggle because it has to pick one of those faces after loosing it's core constituency and mindful that it needs to get them back.

The fact that Scottish Labour's new 'heartlands' are Morningside not Leith and Newton Mearns not Barrhead is damning.
14  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Does Anything Matter? on: May 17, 2015, 03:52:58 am
I can't prove anything outside me exists. But I seem to feel happy or sad in respect to things that happen externally to other people, which whether real or not still 'matters'.
15  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Church of Scotland votes to approve gay ministers in civil partnerships on: May 17, 2015, 03:49:01 am
We may very well be witnessing the Great Falling Away in action.

Many, if not most, modern churches seem to think it is more important to make people ''feel good'' as opposed to telling them the truths that they need to hear. In reality, confronting people with the hard truth is infinitely more loving and compassionate than coddling them in their sins with sweet-sounding lies - whether the world perceives it that way or not.

Churches that fail to identify sin as what it is (or, worse yet, embrace and encourage it as far too many are now doing; such as the Church of Scotland in this particular instance) are doing their congregants a massive disservice. It is not the church's job to be popular and well-liked. It is the church's job to uncompromisingly preach the truth, in every circumstance, regardless of whether or not it's what the world wants to hear. It is the church's job to teach people about sin, teach them about Hell, and teach them about the fact that there is only one path to salvation. It's far better to bring just one person to the light of Christ by preaching the true Gospel than it is to bring 50 people into the pews by preaching false doctrines designed to appease the modern, secular world.

This is why the world hates American Christianity, not necessarily because of what is preached but the general disinterest, dismissal and ignorance of foreign religious contexts.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Scottish Labour leadership election. on: May 16, 2015, 03:19:54 pm


Who can step into Donald Dewar's (and Henry McLeish, Jack McConnell, Wendy Alexander, Iain Gray, Johann Lamont, Jim Murphy's) shoes?

There are no declared candidates yet, but the PLP is now dominated by the MSP's and affiliate favourite Neil Findlay sounds like he might be in with a good chance if he runs.
17  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Church of Scotland votes to approve gay ministers in civil partnerships on: May 16, 2015, 02:15:47 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-32760416

Agreed at the General Assembly. Events have overtaken the church on this one and they are voting on whether to ordain ministers in same sex marriages (now that they are law)
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party leadership election 2015 on: May 16, 2015, 10:45:03 am
I'm a little annoyed Chuka Umunna has withdrawn as it means I can't sing his name to the tune of 'Chucklevision' Sad
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Boston Bomber sentenced to death on: May 15, 2015, 04:17:24 pm
It's entirely reasonable to think of someone as the scum of the earth but still prefer him to live with that and to be constrained by that rather than being executed.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 (The Official Election Day & Results Thread) on: May 15, 2015, 12:53:32 pm
Look at all that Labour red in central Scotland, Labour must have swept the board there?....











Cheesy
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 (The Official Election Day & Results Thread) on: May 15, 2015, 07:25:31 am
This map uses a colour scheme I used last time (I need to upload this for more elections) It shows levels of support with some indication of who the party in second place actually is. White is used for ĎOthersí namely the SNP in Scotland and Plaid Cymru in Wales. Itís also used to represent the lone Green and UKIP MPís in England as well as the Speaker.

It plainly illustrates not only how far the Lib Dems fell (and Labour in Scotland) but how the number of actual marginal seats as a result has diminished.


22  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Christians declining in raw numbers *and* as share of American population on: May 13, 2015, 11:29:44 am
Wow, an 8 percent drop in 7 years is huge.

The USA's general 'religiousity' (at least in terms of self perception) has been a bit of an exception in the west for the past two decades (even taking into account American exceptionalism in itself...)

I tend to think it's been somewhat overinflated, coupled with general (and deliberate) misunderstanding of what not having faith actually means on a person to person level. I think it's starting to correct itself in survey's like this.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Liberal Democrat leadership election, 2015 on: May 13, 2015, 05:55:13 am
Telegraph is reporting that Tim Farron wants to change the party's name to "the Liberals".

Why not change it to "the Liberal Party", like old?

Because the old Liberal Party still exists.

Does it really - aren't the Liberal Democrats considered the de jure successor to the old Liberal Party, even if there's a tiny splinter group calling itself by the same name?

The Liberal Democrats are a merger between the SDP and the Liberal Party. Both the SDP and the Liberal Party still exist 'in continuity.'
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Parliament election - 2016 on: May 12, 2015, 04:22:50 pm
Much drama within Scottish Labour presently, which is hardly surprising given everything.

Because Chernenko Murphy won't go. And Labour (not Scottish Labour) seems to be insistent on him staying and they all filed into a meeting and told the world they loved him. Except those that said nothing. And those that resigned from the Shadow Cabinet at Holyrood where the power should lie and have always lain. And those who dedicated themselves at Holyrood from 1999-2011 and expected to have another pop in 2016 might now be thrown under the bus so that the MP's that people secretly loved (and this was all just a 'horrendous mistake by the public who don't hate them personally you see') like Magrit and Sarwar can be welcomed back. And the list MSP's who didn't think they'd get in through the back door but have worked there socks off as non career politicians often do, will also have to be thrown under the bus.

That's the perception/fear anyway.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: A fair assessment of the SNP? on: May 12, 2015, 03:48:03 pm
Torie, I promise that whatever point you're making about the SNP, nobody understands it.

If I have an hour I'll dismember it. But I don't.
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