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76  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: What do you find immoral? on: March 11, 2014, 03:16:01 pm
A lot of you fail to realize the existence of a process of thought that weighs various things or, can, in fact be knowingly hypocritical. I can knowingly do or want to do a number of immoral things consciously. That certainly doesn't make me a good person, but fact is that my behavior is not the ultimate determiner of what I judge to be right or wrong. Ridiculous.

I just threw up a little in my mouth, because I agree with most of what Cathcon said.  *shudder*

Just because you personally enjoy doing something doesn't make it moral.

I have to say though whoever said teenage sex is immoral just called Mary mother of Jesus a whore.  Congratulations.  The lack of scientific knowledge in America and the western world in general is amazing.  How can someone not even know that human beings evolved to initiate sexual relations in their teens?!  WTF, Atlas?!

It ties with homosexuality. Given both are evolutionary responses, I wouldn't be surprised if the same people voted for both.
77  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Choose-Your-Own Adventure thread on: March 11, 2014, 11:43:45 am
Fixed Smiley
78  Forum Community / Forum Community / The Choose-Your-Own Adventure thread on: March 11, 2014, 07:46:48 am
CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE! - BUSHOKLAHOMA

1.

Brave adventurer! You are BushOklahoma. It is a new day and the sun is shining bright blue outside!

Do you:

Have Breakfast (turn to 6)
Go to church (turn to 6)
Check to see how many replies you have had on Update (turn to 6)

2.

You decide to forgo looking for work. While out walking you come across a member of the opposite sex sitting outside a café. She looks up from her breakfast and catches your eye. ‘Hi there, my name is ‘Deb-bay, it’s pronounced Deb-bay’

Do you:

Purchase an extensive engagement ring (turn to 8 )
Approach her from the side and give her a non-sexual hug (turn to 5)


3.

You quickly dial. ‘Hi, if you’re calling about the ad in the newspaper’, says the voice ‘please key in your debit and credit card numbers and social security numbers of yourself and the extended family’

Do you:

Have breakfast (turn to 6)
Key in the numbers as requested (turn to 8 )
Get a reference from Russ Powers (turn to 7)

4.

You quickly rush home and log onto the Atlas Forum. You read through pages of impassioned, well meaning advice.

Do you:

Ignore the advice (turn to 8 )
Heed the advice (turn to 9)


5.

‘Hi Deb-bay’, you say ‘For the purposes of this Choose Your Own Adventure, my name is BushOklahoma but you may call me Bushie.’
She smiles. ‘If you would like’, she said ‘I could take you to a social event relevant to your town or state?’

Do you:

Make a pass at Deb-bay (turn to 8 )
Seek the advice of the Forum (turn to 4)


6.

Before you do anything today, you decide to have a hearty breakfast. You pick up the local newspaper and turn to page 17. You sigh while quietly reading ‘Rapture Watch.’ It’s day 725,255 and still no sign. You are soon perked by an ad in the newspaper ‘No experience? Earn $$$$$$$’s today. Call 555-FRAUD’

Do you:

Go back to sleep (turn to 1)
Respond to the ad (turn to 3)

7.

‘This is Russ Powers’, ‘I am sending my reference to you by Harrier jet. You may pick your choice of bombastic entrance music.’ ‘Thanks Russ’, you reply.

Do you:

Respond to the ad (turn to 8 )
Take a walk in the sun (turn to 2)

8.

Your life and the lives of people you care about are ruined. Again. You would think the ADVENTURE ENDS HERE, but for some reason it never does. Return to 1.

9.

You decide to heed the advice of those who mean well. Unfortunately, you are dreaming and you bolt upright, fully awake. Return to 1.
79  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Would Pontius Pilate be a Republican today? on: March 11, 2014, 07:06:26 am
This election as 2016:

John the Baptist: Bill Clinton

Mary Magdalene: Bill Clinton


Corrected Wink
80  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey on: March 11, 2014, 06:45:59 am
I managed to catch it. I thought that it suited the audience it was appealing to. America, in it's exceptionalism, still has a sizeable proportion who do not believe the fundamentals of science. NDT to me didn't sound condescending as such, but he did lay it down clearly; 'this is what we know, this is what we understand it to be.'

I would recommend people watch Brian Cox's Wonders of the Universe by the BBC. Similar stuff but aimed just a little bit higher.
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Good morning, Atlas Forum! on: March 10, 2014, 04:34:44 pm
I hope you are well Smiley
82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Books that every Atlas member should read on: March 10, 2014, 04:32:26 pm


The entire collection of Tintin albums will give you a finer insight into the human existence that most books will.
83  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: British Elections 1918-1945 on: March 10, 2014, 02:29:33 pm
I have a map of the 1945 result by 1950 boundaries kicking about somewhere.
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mass. lawmakers quickly reban upskirt photos after court ruled they were legal on: March 10, 2014, 02:18:48 pm
I wonder how far things would have gotten if the complainant was a man wearing a kilt Smiley

If one went by stereotypes, no true Scotsman would have complained unless the camera had the same optics found on passenger-side mirrors.

True that.
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mass. lawmakers quickly reban upskirt photos after court ruled they were legal on: March 10, 2014, 01:12:16 pm
I wonder how far things would have gotten if the complainant was a man wearing a kilt Smiley
86  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey on: March 10, 2014, 06:59:43 am
I'll need to look out for it. I think Tyson is one of the most eloquent speakers I've had the joy of listening to.
87  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favourite latest post by previous poster on: March 10, 2014, 06:47:38 am
On Dick Swett

His name makes him an automatic FF
88  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of The Amazing Atheist on: March 10, 2014, 05:36:48 am
He stuck a banana up his ass. Enough said.

Shocked

Yeah, and he poured coffee on himself naked for some "porn" video he made for someone.  Not that I particularly care what people do in their spare time.

So why bring it up? If you think his online self important ramblings are tough to swallow you haven't been subjected to Scott Sunday Wink
89  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of The Amazing Atheist on: March 09, 2014, 06:12:49 pm
One of the strange creations of the internet. Though, I'd take a million of him over a VenomFangX any day.
90  General Politics / International General Discussion / International Architecture Thread on: March 09, 2014, 05:09:12 pm
I've stared this after quite a good forum chat about architecture. Come in here and dump the old, new, good, bad and ugly.

The Reid Building has crash landed in Glasgow. An extension of the Glasgow School of Art and facing onto Mackintosh's 'iconic' building it seems to be met with little criticism








Like it's counterpart, it's out of place in Glasgow in comparison to it's neighbours. Or is it? Behind the new building is a building I know very well; it's my old school




In 1998 they constructed a controversial but award winning Junior School



Then this;


And then the Jesuit's got in on the act and constructed this new residency


The two competing campuses in a battle for land

They are all within two blocks of each other.

As for me? I'm so used and so in love with this style in this part of the of the city, I just love it Smiley
91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: So I'll be leaving the forum for two years starting May 2nd. on: March 09, 2014, 03:09:53 pm
I would hope someone helping people with family history would have access to the internet at least now and then Smiley Anyway; enjoy yourself.
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is the population of your city/town? on: March 09, 2014, 12:59:53 pm
As a settlement 1.2 million, though only half of that is actually administered by it's namesake.
93  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Pope Francis: Church could support civil unions on: March 09, 2014, 12:30:22 pm
Someone gets it Sad

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/09/rick-santorum-to-gop-sell-the-anti-lgbt-far-right-agenda-by-talking-like-the-pope/
94  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Pope Francis: Church could support civil unions on: March 09, 2014, 12:12:25 pm
While what Afleitch says is true, I think he's being a bit too negative. A change in tone is often the first step and I'd say it marks a clear shift. Francis is shaking things up on several fronts and this may pave the way for the real changes later down the line.

The problem for the Church is that if nothing happens, then Francis will be a greater disappointment than a more conservative pope would have been for those who wish to see a greater degree of humanism within the Church. That in itself would be extraordinarily damaging. If the pope seeks change but is 'blocked' by the inert institutions of the Church then that too will be damaging. He's therefore left himself with no real choice but to follow through.
95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: On a scale of 0 to 10... on: March 08, 2014, 06:16:57 pm
7.5
96  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Pope Francis: Church could support civil unions on: March 08, 2014, 03:12:04 pm
And one day there will be. Me, what I see, it's a pope who is much less conservative on this issue than the last, it's a big improvement and the Catholic Church is going much more "opened" towards homosexuals. That's why I'm happy to be Catholic! I

And if it actually happens, given how helpful that would be to LGBT people in the developing world I will fly to Rome and kiss his ring Smiley But it hasn't happened yet and it doesn't help getting carried away.
Be careful Afleicht, I will remember your post :p

I'm not joking Smiley The difficulties in Africa are close to my heart.
97  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Ernest on: March 08, 2014, 02:46:08 pm
I think recently he's showing a degree of social awkwardness; genuinely having difficulties in understanding real life personal and interpersonal interactions. This is coupled with a need to diffuse situations that he doesn't like by resorting to bad puns and non-sequiturs (at times of quite a probing or insensitive nature) which has become increasingly grating.


And as expected, the mods begin to eat their own.

You do know that outside of the specific Thread for moderators, moderators simply engage with other mods like posters do with posters? Smiley
98  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Pope Francis: Church could support civil unions on: March 08, 2014, 02:44:28 pm
And one day there will be. Me, what I see, it's a pope who is much less conservative on this issue than the last, it's a big improvement and the Catholic Church is going much more "opened" towards homosexuals. That's why I'm happy to be Catholic! I

And if it actually happens, given how helpful that would be to LGBT people in the developing world I will fly to Rome and kiss his ring Smiley But it hasn't happened yet and it doesn't help getting carried away.
99  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do Single People Deserve equal protection that Married couples have? on: March 08, 2014, 02:42:31 pm

So your idea that "sex has to come with a automatically marriage license" is idiotic.

I'll leave you with this to start off with;

Do you know what marriage, in the strictest sense is? Do you know why we have it? Why do we have marriage defined as a legal act either in canon or civil law? It's not exclusively conducive to sex, which we can all do. Nor is it exclusively conducive to interpersonal sexual relationships. People can have life long relationships of value without being married. Marriage is entirely about property. It is to ensure that property is managed and inherited because that is conducive to a civil society. Marriage up until very recently in the west was exclusively about property. Yes it was about love and 'Jesus' and everything else in it's ceremonial form but strictly it was about property. Now luckily men and women today, broadly speaking are equal in law. They are equal in law when they are born, when they are children and when they get married. If that marriage is dissolved then there is a fair hearing (one should hope) concerning that dissolution. However that, as I explained wasn't always the case.

You however have the cart leading the horse. You are suggesting that there is marriage which is not about property and then there are 'rights' which are not about marriage but may inform the nature of that marriage; i.e men having chattel rights over women and exclusive rights over the children basically during her entire lifetime. But marriage didn't come first. Women's subordination to men at all stages in her life; from her fathers dominion over her as a child and as an asset to be traded, adult males sexual dominion over her in adulthood and so on was the catalyst for establishing marriage as a contractual binding societal agreement. That is why there is marriage. Religions and customs born in cultures of exclusive patriarchy informed those cultural and religious laws that defined marriage. That is why justification in the Christian West for 'erunt animae duae in carne una'; the very words spoken in the marriage vow was intertwined in the set definition of women being subordinate in deed, mind and body to menfolk. Definitions have now changed and evolved, as has marriage but do not think for a second that marriage; an institution in civil and canon law enacted by men alone had nothing to do the subordination of women.

So that's what it was. Marriage was inextricably linked with carnal matters. Now we understand that the bonded attraction between 'mates' (to use a more neutral term) extends to those who have same sex attraction and it seems strange to bar them from forming similar unions. That's the only change to marriage in terms of participants that has happened. If you want to be radical and allow mothers to marry sons/daughters, and brothers to marry brothers and so forth, then that's very 'right on' of you you daring social liberal Cheesy
100  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Ernest on: March 08, 2014, 02:28:07 pm
I think recently he's showing a degree of social awkwardness; genuinely having difficulties in understanding real life personal and interpersonal interactions. This is coupled with a need to diffuse situations that he doesn't like by resorting to bad puns and non-sequiturs (at times of quite a probing or insensitive nature) which has become increasingly grating.
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