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76  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, 2017 - Election Day and Results Thread on: June 09, 2017, 02:09:36 pm
Ashcrofts 'exit poll'

Striking; Labour led age groups 18-44 and were one point behind the Tories from 45-54. Tories ahead with Boomers.
77  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, 2017 - Election Day and Results Thread on: June 08, 2017, 04:40:35 pm
Actual Exit Poll seat projections:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40104373
78  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Scottish Episcopal Church votes in favour of allowing same sex couples to marry on: June 08, 2017, 12:15:24 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-40190204

It is expected that the Church of Scotland may do the same.
79  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: June 07, 2017, 05:10:21 pm
Apparently Survation's release has been delayed due to a fracas in the stats room!

Worth noting Survation nailed 2015, but didn't release the poll because they didn't believe it.
80  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Half a goodbye on: June 07, 2017, 05:06:13 pm
I will forever remember you in the dark Brown years cheering about Labour gains from the Lib Dems in Liverpool as authority after authority fell nationwide. Sad to see that optimism diminish Smiley
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: June 04, 2017, 08:42:45 am
Thinking of starting a family Smiley Exploring options.
82  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: June 03, 2017, 03:27:41 pm
So either a hung parliament or a Tory landslide. Something for everyone Cheesy
83  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: June 03, 2017, 02:54:42 pm
Survation

CON 40
LAB 39
LIB 8
UKIP 5
84  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: June 02, 2017, 04:42:23 pm
If I lived in 1983 I'd be concerned.
85  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do left-liberals neglect the importance of families? on: June 02, 2017, 03:43:18 pm
I'm of the opinion that gay couples should be able to create their own families, and they should also have a right for a biological family. So yeah, while we should regulate this business to make sure there's no exploitation, we need to help gay couples if they want to establishb a family. Right now, it's a privilege for rich couples.

Rich couples, gay or straight, should not be allowed to buy children out of some unfortunate woman's womb either. You cannot regulate that which is inherently exploitive into not being so.

This is the first time that I've ever heard someone claim a "right to a biological family." The idea perplexes me.

What's with this idea that women could never be okay with having a baby for others who can't have one themselves?

Sure, they might.  But keep out the pressure placed on them to do so by contracts or getting paid to do it.

On what basis should a surrogate be 'compensated' for the inherent risk, as mitigated as it is these days, in carrying a child? Why is there an issue with 'contracts', ensuring that the potential parent and the surrogate understand each others position?
86  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: ScotVote - A Scottish Election Series (Master Thread) on: May 24, 2017, 11:52:32 am
Love it Cheesy
87  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Scottish Independence Refrendum; Brexit on: May 24, 2017, 11:50:36 am
Yes/Remain/Yes.
88  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 22, 2017, 02:43:20 pm
I'm starting to think the Tories might actually struggle to get a majority. Something has shifted; May is stuck either repeating herself and her mantra, which brings her down, or making u-turns which makes a mockery of those mantra which also brings her down.

There's an uplift in the Labour vote which isn't coming from UKIP, or from the Tories etc but from a broad base of voters who simply disappeared 20 years ago. That might be enough to fight the Tories to a similar result to 2015, even with the Tory vote share also going up.

This week might just be an electoral fart. Ask me in a week Tongue
89  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Gym Goers! What Gym do you go to? on: May 22, 2017, 12:56:01 pm
A university gym.
90  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 21, 2017, 12:52:34 pm
I don't feel British...so meh.
91  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Non alcoholic beer with a craft beer taste. Let's replace alcoholic beer. on: May 21, 2017, 12:04:06 pm
Glasgow is the home of Brewdog, Innis and Gunn and the Drygate. Everyone drinks craft beer. It's not a 'hipster' thing.
92  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Greatest I am on: May 19, 2017, 03:04:19 am
The sadder spectacle is the need for a circle jerk of posters in the RandP board who persistently engage with him. He clearly can't be that much of a problem if they're getting a kick out of it.
93  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 18, 2017, 08:49:07 am
Actually, I wouldn't be suprised if the Tories are overestimated at Labour's expense. Labour seem to be rallying anti-Tory opposition to them. The polarisation is quite something.
94  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 17, 2017, 12:31:15 pm
Slightly off topic, but the Labour Party group on Aberdeen City council have been suspended for going into coalition with the Tories against Labour's wishes. One Lib Dem also defected to join the new independent grouping.
95  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 17, 2017, 12:28:41 pm
Gay or Lesbian Relations: Always morally wrong (if sexual)

In what way isn't a gay or lesbian relationship sexual? Is kissing not sexual? Is cuddling not sexual? Is thought not sexual? Or is it anal penetrative that you have an issue with?
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians on: May 16, 2017, 01:56:18 pm
BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS
97  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 16, 2017, 01:54:26 pm
Labour did the right thing by putting any old pish in their manifesto. Get's it out of their system.
98  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 16, 2017, 05:50:49 am
There hasn't been a Scotland wide poll all month so far. YouGov's regional poll was their old one. I think people are enjoying the idea of what Scotland is going to do, rather than actually poll it.
99  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Opinion of Moral Issues on: May 16, 2017, 05:44:49 am
This is one of those issues where large portions of the left frustrate me. There's such a preoccupation with leveling hierarchies and dismantling the social structures that support those hierarchies that the harm done by leaving no realistic or sustainable replacement that fulfills the same functions is ignored.

I mean let's be clear about this: it's no coincidence that so many sexual abuse scandals occurred in the 1970s and 80s; i.e. after the collapse of various enforced Moral Orders (which had their flaws and faults and trapped many people, but, it must be admitted, protected others) but before certain mostly feminist derived concerns became mainstream.

As someone who worked on these cases at a government level that's not quite true. Reporting of abuse from that era by still living victims is higher because of the collapse of 'moral institutions' (and literal institutions) allowing freedom to talk and to be believed. Equally where those institutions and codes still exist, particularly in the Asian community, reporting levels are in many aspects dangerously low. When it comes to the LGBT community the last 50 years of progress hasn't happened. Far right dog whistling aside it's a real problem and progressive community groups need to be empowered.

Unchecked authority is the key indicator of where abuse can be allowed to exist (elder abuse in care homes lacking state intervention is one worrying development) As such you can only really 'model' historical records of institutuonal abuse and from what I know that's been on a downward trend. Abuse in the family home is a different beast.
100  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Amish? Should they be forced to integrate? on: May 15, 2017, 02:47:42 pm
Given the structure of Amish school education an additional two or three years probably isn't going to 'expand' anything. Bear in mind as recently as my parents generation, finishing education at around 14 and then learning a trade/craft was common. Unless the Amish restructure their economy as we have done (which of course they won't) I can't see why it should be imposed on them.
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