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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to Launch $10 Million Ad Buy For This Week on: Today at 12:14:42 am
So... which part of Trump Inc made the ads?
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to address Detroit Black Church on Saturday on: August 28, 2016, 11:30:55 pm
Good luck getting out of there alive.

This is an extremely racist statement.
Why? There are doubtless plenty of people from all races, creeds, and walks of life who feel a certain impulse to murder the feces-spitting clown; when face to face with TrumpMiller's unique brand of hateful idiocy anyone might very well have trouble controlling their own worse impulses.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to address Detroit Black Church on Saturday on: August 28, 2016, 10:30:12 pm
Good luck getting out of there alive.
Perhaps he's planning on starting a riot and counting on his SS detail to get him out alive.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I just cannot fathom an Obama 12/trump 16 voter. (and they exist) on: August 28, 2016, 09:26:55 pm
They exist in Nevada and in Iowa and probably some in maine and oregon as well.

Who in the world are these folks, and how do they not realize how ideologically different their voting habits are every 4 years?

As others said, they're moderately anti-establishment (and IMHO, not high-information voters).

Thinking of Obama/Trump voter in 2012: things still need to change, we don't need rich capitalist assholes in charge, and I believe Obama will be better for the "guy/gal on the street" than arch-capitalist Mitt Romney.

Thinking of Obama/Trump voter in 2016: things really need to change, Hillary is way too establishment and I believe Trump will be better for the "guy/gal on the street" than 'friend to the 1%' Hillary Clinton.

All it takes is dislike of the 1% and a mix of faith and gullibility. Faith that voting does matter and that the person they're voting for isn't a complete liar, and gullibility to believe their candidate's spiel (and convince themselves that they're right this time).
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Nate Silver: Too early for HRC to run out the clock; Trump seems to be gaining on: August 28, 2016, 05:05:39 pm
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would you like to have both candidates replaced? on: August 28, 2016, 10:10:19 am
Yes, of course. Almost anyone would be better than having the willfully ignorant psychopathic clown with a chance of winning.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Inside Debate Prep: Clinton’s Careful Case vs. Trump’s ‘WrestleMania’ on: August 28, 2016, 09:25:35 am
Trump doesn't have to use a teleprompter. He chooses to to make the RNC happy.

And it "makes the RNC happy" because Trump is a bumbling, incoherent buffoon who sinks in the polls everytime he goes off-script and who'd never complete a spoken sentence without going on 12 different tangents in the absence of a teleprompter.

But of course, Trump doesn't need to use teleprompters, cue cards or anything else. It's not like the dude's been relying on them for years due to his now-canceled, pretend-job-hiring show.

He doesn't need that show any more. People are now paying him to play the same character pretending to run for President.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: Joe and Mika have been dating for years on: August 28, 2016, 09:24:08 am
who the hell cares???
Donald Trump and his immature mind.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Donald Trump's secret identity? on: August 27, 2016, 09:36:52 pm
Donald Trump, hyper-competent successful tycoon, is a fictional character who is running for President. He is played by Donald Trump, reality tv actor and professional celebrity.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GE Wk 4: Who won the week? on: August 27, 2016, 12:02:27 am
Voted "tie" because while I think that he'll be hurting down the road, things like Clinton's speech, his more than usual incoherence on immigration, and the wreck that is Bannon haven't really landed yet. He had a few decent moments, and his polling collapse has been arrested, for now.

Of course a "tie" is still "losing to Clinton".
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Please stop responding to Seriously on: August 26, 2016, 11:48:40 am
He's almost singlehandedly ruined this board. I have no idea how he has the time to post here this much. Dude's entire life consists of doing pro bono damage control for the Trump campaign on a small internet forum.

What makes you certain it's pro bono?
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Post your current prediction based on margin. on: August 26, 2016, 11:17:44 am
I have a feeling NE-2 will almost certainly flip.

It certainly could, but I'd like to see a Nebraska poll before making that conclusion.

I've got a good friend in NE-2 who registered D to caucus for Bernie, and she commented yesterday that she was contacted via phone by a D canvasser who was primarily interested in her position on Hillary. (She's a supporter.)

I don't know how serious the Clinton campaign will be, but it seems that they're definitely thinking of making a strong push for it.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Please stop responding to Seriously on: August 26, 2016, 11:12:35 am
I know this is gonna get moved but I want visibility.

Every god damn thread only gets a few posts in before Seriously? just starts copy-and-pasting stuff that's posted on r/the_donald and you guys all rush over to respond and argue with him.  It completely derails threads.  If there's one thing I don't need to read any more of it's people trying to argue with the guy.  Sometimes I read on in hopes that some other conversation might pop up later down the thread but it usually doesn't happen.

For heaven's sake, just stop responding.  You're not proving anything to anyone by pointing out that Bill Clinton never raped anybody or that Hillary Clinton isn't dying.  And you're certainly not going to convince him.  All you're doing is giving him what he wants and helping to destroy a thread.  Just stop.

Will do.

It's cathartic to highlight the... problems of archetypical Trump supporters. But you're absolutely right that it doesn't contribute anything to discussing the election.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Pierson: Trump Didn’t Flip-Flop, Just ‘Changed the Words That He Is Saying’ on: August 26, 2016, 09:55:08 am
Sure. He just evolved.

Even if Trump understand that evolution is real, I bet a lot of his supporters would burn him on the cross for saying that.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NYP & Politico: Bannon once charged in domestic violence case on: August 26, 2016, 09:31:02 am
LOL. A domestic violence case thrown out vs. a Presidential candidate's husband who has been accused of sexual assault at least a dozen times....

Gotta love the press.

You should - they've spent far too little time on when your cult leader literally stopped beating his wife.


Your cult leader likes throwing stuff at her husband and belittling the philandering moron.

Remember this oldie, but goodie?

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/clinton-white-house-the-residence-excerpt-116706




"Whaaaaataboutclinton!" Thank you for demonstrating one of the distinctive cries of the Trump cult.


Another prominent (but not exclusive) characteristic of a Trump cultist is the complete ignorance of reality in favored of their chosen fantasy story. I.e. because I correctly point out that TrumpMiller is a stupid, ignorant, bullying, con artist and prostitute-reviewer with a documented history of assaulting women, you assume I'm a Clinton "cultist". (I would prefer seeing Clinton beat TrumpMiller. I would also prefer a mentally disabled orangutang over Trump, because he's that bad a candidate. I've made that all quite clear.)
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary shot the Trump Campaign in Reno, Just to watch it die... on: August 26, 2016, 09:08:42 am
We know a significant share of Republican voters are openly racist and Trump probably did very well in that demographic.

The point with Trump is that there is little to no reason to support him beyond shades of racism and fascism. He's not offering solutions to any problems, no coherent ideology or principled conservatism. He doesn't stand for family values, a secure and strong America, free markets or small government.

Anyone enthusiastically supporting him must care about something other than all those things and it's hard to escape the conclusion that it is the one thing he does champion in a unique way - racial hatred and persecution of non-white minorities.

To be fair to TrumpMiller, he's also doing a good job carrying the anti-science, pro-ignorance banner at the front of the GOP parade. (That's not a completely overlapping set with racism and bigotry.)
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Flashback: Racist Trump Is First To Open Palm Beach Club To Blacks, Jews, Women on: August 26, 2016, 08:52:57 am
Per the Sun-Sentinel in 1995, when Trump opened Mar-a-Lago.

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So at last the Mar-a-Lago Club is officially open. It boasts a staff of more than 100 and a membership of more than 250, who, flouting a sour tradition for Palm Beach clubs, include blacks, Jews and women. All one need be to join is civilized - and rich.

Sourcing: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1995-06-18/features/9506220187_1_mar-a-lago-marjorie-merriweather-post-donald-trump/3

Yep. Definitely a racist.

Trump's Mar-a-Lago hires hundreds of foreign workers
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/
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Here's Donald Trump's dilemma: He is running for president on a platform of bringing jobs back to the U.S. and making America Great again.

But at his private club in south Florida, he has filled his staff almost exclusively with imported foreign workers. And he has been doing it for years.

The U.S. Department of Labor has confirmed to CNN that between 2013 and fall 2015, Trump's Mar-a-Lago club posted 250 seasonal job openings and filled just 4 of those jobs with American workers. The club requested the rest of the staff be temporarily imported through the Federal government's H-2B visa process. Basically, Mar-a-Lago brings in its seasonal staff from overseas.

Mar-a-Lago is a mansion that Donald Trump has turned into a members-only private club in Palm Beach, Florida. The wife of New York stockbroker E.F. Hutton built it in 1927. Mrs. Hutton, who would become Marjorie Merriweather Post, used Mar-a-Lago as a winter retreat for her and her wealthy Wall Street friends. Gilded in tile and other decorations, it reeked of the opulence of the pre-Depression roaring 1920s: Think Great Gatsby, flamboyant parties, poolside waiters.

Please, tell me again how he's looking out for the little guy and supports American jobs. I wouldn't mind another laugh this morning.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NYP & Politico: Bannon once charged in domestic violence case on: August 26, 2016, 02:28:22 am
LOL. A domestic violence case thrown out vs. a Presidential candidate's husband who has been accused of sexual assault at least a dozen times....

Gotta love the press.

You should - they've spent far too little time on when your cult leader literally stopped beating his wife.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Pierson: Trump Didn’t Flip-Flop, Just ‘Changed the Words That He Is Saying’ on: August 26, 2016, 02:24:30 am
What's really scary is that if he somehow actually gets elected, this kind of 1984-style reality denial is going to be coming from the White House. And not just for spin, but for actual policy, law enforcement, wars, and foreign relations.

"There never was an EPA."
"The Civil Rights Act doesn't exist, and neither does Roe v. Wade."
"We've always been at war with Turkey."
"The President can't be impeached."

20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump responds to Clinton Alt-Right Speech Megathread on: August 26, 2016, 02:19:13 am
I think this forum should be more tolerant of Trump supporters. Imo.

Trump is a con-artist and actor who is running a reality tv character who acts like a B-movie villian for President of the United States. That he's managed to sucker the ignorance-celebrating and reality-challenged Republican Party into nominating him does not make him a better candidate at all.

The overwhelming majority of Trump supporters I encounter online and face to face are low information zealots with critical thinking skills absent or willingly amputated. People who cannot even acknowledge what their candidate actually says and does, and who babble an endless mess of talking points and conspiracy theories and seem to get more tolerance here than they deserve.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary killed the Trump Campaign in Reno, Just to watch it die... on: August 25, 2016, 07:45:51 pm
As someone who worked in Immigration, I can tell you, a lot of the issues with immigration is race-based. People aren't really concerned about Canadian, British or Australian overstayers. You might be, but a lot aren't. Plus, the issue isn't also the issue, but the rhetoric used to get people excited. Opposing illegal immigration doesn't make you racist, but using inflammatory rhetoric that IS very much racially charged, does. It gets especially bad when you single out specific races/religions and flame stereotypes and permit hatred toward those people.

How about a little intellectual honesty on that front too?

I can understand that with the whole "they're taking our jobs" thing towards Mexican immigrants. I just think both sides get out of hand with rhetoric whether it's nationalists getting mad at Mexicans or sjws getting mad at people just for opposing illegal immigration or calling people who illegally immigrate 'illegal immigrants.'


If TrumpMiller supporters are sincere in their honest desire to have a law-abiding and law-enforcing regime on immigration, their decision to back documented serial illegal-employer Trump only serves to make them look fools.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump responds to Clinton Alt-Right Speech Megathread on: August 25, 2016, 04:44:43 pm
Edit to add: Although this is what Trump has said, I am asking these questions of Seriously? and all other Trump supporters on this forum. I assume you concur with him, so then defend his remarks. Validate and substantiate them.

Hillary Clinton sports an actual terrorist as a supporter. Should we paint all Hillary supporters as terrorists? Of course not.

Trump may be a fascist, but he's not actually a terrorist, yet.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump responds to Clinton Alt-Right Speech Megathread on: August 25, 2016, 04:39:32 pm
Trumps going to be on Anderson Cooper tonight at 8

Will he stay muzzled, or rip it off and start frothing again?
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Kellyanne can keep Trump on a short leash, can he win? on: August 25, 2016, 01:53:50 pm
This was the way Trump was back in late May or so, before the whole thing with Curiel occurred. Then he got impatient with his polling and went back to the way he was.

It's not the polling. It's the adrenaline hit he gets from the crowd.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump's campaign the biggest scam of all time? on: August 25, 2016, 12:06:01 pm
 Of course not.   If Trump's campaign was a scam he would have rejected the nomination at the convention.  

are you kidding? he's now raking in donor dollars. winning the nomination was the first step, friends.

  So what if Trump is receiving donations from supporters? What about all the money Clinton receives through the Clinton Foundation from countries that treat women like s**t?

I know he's fat and saying that he  "treats women like s**t" is accurate, but calling Trump "a country" is just wrong.
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