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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What are Donald Trump's qualifications? on: March 03, 2015, 11:52:28 am
Up on the stage next to candidates like Santorum, Huckabee, and Fiorina, he'll bring a much needed sense of sanity and competence to the proceedings.

Rofl. (It's funny because its true!)
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules on: March 03, 2015, 11:50:04 am
Regardless of the rules in place, I'd say it is rather stupid to use a personal e-mail account as such a high ranking figure. Moreover, as is mentioned in the text, this means hardly any of her e-mails have been retained for official records.

Which is possibly why she did it. Remember the Bush email controversy back in 2007 with the "loss" of tons of emails because they weren't sent via official accounts? Same deal.

Those who think this isn't worthy of attention are sort-of right. It is wrong, but no one will care. Concepts like 'rules' and 'best practices' only apply to little people, not the ruling elites.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: People from either party you would support and why on: March 02, 2015, 06:53:19 pm
Democrats: Almost any potential nominee.
Reason: Walker as Republican nominee. He frightens me. And not because I don't like his politics, but because he seems like an immoral, unscrupulous, power-grabbing, law-breaking authoritarian. And that's in comparison to his fellow likely Republican nominees.

The rest of them, Republicans and Dems alike, are all quite awful, but Walker rises above the rest, the way toxic gas rises above a tank of pig sh**t.




4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What are Fiorina's Qualifications? on: March 02, 2015, 06:44:40 pm
Making Barbara Boxer slightly flinch, equivalent to getting out of a fight with a torn sleeve and maybe a broken finger? Is that really it?

I suspect her qualifications are, "We don't want a stage with nothing but old, mostly white men on it."
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CPAC 2015: February 25-28 on: March 01, 2015, 03:34:57 am
MSNBC article:

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As a governor, Walker’s portfolio has been light on foreign policy compared to the senators in the race, and he offered little in specifics when asked how he’d confront the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria while generally pledging to protect America from attacks. But he did suggest that his battles with unions over collective bargaining rights might help prepare him for the job.

If I can take on 100,000 protesters, I can do the same across the world,” he said.

That line drew a swift response from Democratic National Committee spokesman Mo Elleithee.

If Scott Walker thinks that it’s appropriate to compare working people speaking up for their rights to brutal terrorists, then he is even less qualified to be president than I thought,” Elleithee said. “Maybe he should go back to punting.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cpac-tests-gop-2016-field
I don't agree with Mo Elleithee on much but Walker went over the line in my opinion comparing protesters to terrorists. He probably is just pandering the crowd but for us  Moderates we think twice about for voting somebody  that says that. That along with Planned Parenthood and Walker defunding it in his state brings up red flags about Walker in my opinion. He also said in his recall election in 2011 he wouldn't do right-to-work laws in his state for private sector workers now he says he is gonna do it. I am having my doubts about Walker right now. I'm not saying I wouldn't vote for him but like I said its red flags and enough red flags that are put up like Romney in 2012 I just can't vote for you.

I don't think he's "just pandering to the crowd". There have been other, similar slips - Mr. Walker seems like he would really love to be in charge of a nationwide police state. I've gone from disliking him to fearing him. I normally vote green, or don't vote, but I'm now at the point where I'd suck it up and vote Democrat just to keep Walker out of office, should he end up as Republican nominee.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BOOM! Trump seriously preparing, starts hiring staffers on: February 25, 2015, 06:44:45 pm
It's actually happening - the Republican nomination process really is going to turn into a clown car full of parasites who will wreck the party well before the election. I suppose this is their just desserts for coddling their nutjobs for the last 6+ years.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Walker on gay rights issues: a primer on: February 25, 2015, 06:42:34 pm
Another arrow in the "Walker is the candidate who doesn't answer questions" quiver...
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Another Scenario on: February 25, 2015, 06:41:05 pm
The Tea Party splits, and a majority of the TP along with the Social Conservatives bolt party and nominate a Real Conservative (TM) under the Constitution Party. Reporters covering the election rejoice. Lawsuits fly. The Democrats quietly support getting the Constitution Party on the ballot in as many states as possible. Other minor party candidates act as spoliers in a few elections. National Popular Vote gets a boost, but is ultimately irrelevant (at least for this election). The phrase "ballot access" gets an order of magnitude more coverage than "hanging chad".

Ultimately, the result is never in doubt. The Democratic nominee wins in a massive landslide, although only with a plurality of the vote in many states.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jeb Bush or Scott Walker on: February 24, 2015, 05:13:48 pm
Judging from their nascent campaigns to date: neither.

We haven't seen much, but from what we have seen, Jeb hasn't campaigned in over a decade, ad it shows. Not just personally, but with his organization, likely advisers, and approach.  Meanwhile, Walked looks very close to either getting Quayle'd as "The man who can't answer questions" or just flat out having a Palin moment from which he'll never recover.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Challenge: Describe a potential Obama 2012/Walker 2016 voter on: February 24, 2015, 05:10:09 pm
Angry left-wingers who bought Obama's spiel twice and won't buy whatever Hillary is selling, who will vote Republican out of either sheer spite at being fooled by Obama, or out of a desire to teach the Democrats not to take their base for granted. (The latter are far more likely to stay home, or just not vote on the big up-ballot races.)

I don't know how many such voters there are, but after years of watching both Obama and Hickenlooper govern as technocratic moderate Republicans, there are certainly some.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Christie Run? on: February 24, 2015, 05:01:09 pm
Voted no. Scandals tainting his administration + pretty far left for a Republican = no chance at winning. I do think there's a chance he'll run, but <50%.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Walker on if Obama loves America: "I don't really know" on: February 22, 2015, 05:24:15 pm
Walker seems to have a 'punting' problem. Bush, Rubio, Paul and Graham have all come out and said something to the effect of they "don't question Obama's motives just his policies." What is so hard about that?

He wouldnt talk about evolution, he wouldn't take a position on if the president loves america, he won't say if he supports ground troops against ISIS, he wont say what he would do with the undocumented (except 'no amnesty').  He can't keep dodging questions like this

EDIT: Walker is also unsure if Obama is a Christian
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/walker-says-he-is-unaware-whether-obama-is-a-christian/2015/02/21/6fde0bd0-ba17-11e4-bc30-a4e75503948a_story.html

Expect Walker to also not be able to weigh in on if Obama is straight, black, a father, good at basketball, or even a homo sapien

Walker needs to step up his game very rapidly. Otherwise he's going to be out as "not ready for a national campaign" before the formal campaign starts.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Walker on if Obama loves America: "I don't really know" on: February 22, 2015, 05:20:06 pm
Oh no.

Please don't tell me the Republicans are fielding another batch of wing nut candidates again, a la Santorum.

Oh, judging by what we've seen so far, the 2016 crop of wingnuttery is going to make 2012 look positively tame. Candidates like Huckabee are going to be like viruses: hijacking the Republican primary process to boost their book sales and Fox News careers. And while doing that, they'll pull the whole rest of the field towards raving wingnut territory. Naked Capitalism has been calling the Republican primary candidates "the clown car" and they're absolutely right. I'm sure the Dems will be laughing all the way to election day.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NJ: Academics and Model-makers on Hillary Clinton's chances on: February 20, 2015, 01:32:55 pm
President Romney is sure glad the "models" were correct in 2012.

^This. Also, never doubt the chances that the Republican candidate, probably Jeb or Walker at this point (more so Walker) will end up pushing social issues or generally gaffing it up right until November. Add in the fact that the GOP owns both houses in Congress and it makes oppo far easier for Hillary's team: just ran against the do-nothing regressivists and tie their candidate to D.C.

And don't neglect that even if the nominee or vp nominee don't gaffe it up, some Republican somewhere will make an incredibly offensive statement regarding women, which the party will then refuse to clearly condemn.
They managed to avoid this in the 2014 cycle.

No, they didn't.
http://www.dayswithoutagoprapemention.com/


15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NJ: Academics and Model-makers on Hillary Clinton's chances on: February 19, 2015, 03:17:26 pm
President Romney is sure glad the "models" were correct in 2012.

^This. Also, never doubt the chances that the Republican candidate, probably Jeb or Walker at this point (more so Walker) will end up pushing social issues or generally gaffing it up right until November. Add in the fact that the GOP owns both houses in Congress and it makes oppo far easier for Hillary's team: just ran against the do-nothing regressivists and tie their candidate to D.C.

And don't neglect that even if the nominee or vp nominee don't gaffe it up, some Republican somewhere will make an incredibly offensive statement regarding women, which the party will then refuse to clearly condemn.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jeb Bush says he wants to ignore the past on: February 17, 2015, 02:23:02 pm
To be fair, we all know there are things about the Clintons' past that Hillary will want to ignore.

Yes, but how voters remember the end of her husbands time in office won't be one of them. Jeb, on the other hand, will really, really want to avoid making voters think about the end of his brother's term as president.

She can ask voters whether they want 2024 to look more like 2000, or 2008?
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jeb Bush says he wants to ignore the past on: February 15, 2015, 01:01:12 am
If we "ignore the past" then what does Bush have to run on? That he's a rich guy who really wants to be President?
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jeb Bush leaked his former constituents' emails, Social Security numbers on: February 11, 2015, 06:27:46 pm
Data security is an issue of growing importance not only for personal financial security for national security.

That Bush is so nonchalant about it suggests he's not ready for prime time. The response of his flacks that this stuff was public record is absurd. The personal information was not public record and there's a difference between an enterprising and accountable journalist having access to the records and to making them freely available online for phishing and hacks.

*Face palm*

It's a small blip in the overall carnival that is the pre-primary, but it does hint that neither Bush nor his staff are up to speed on the state of communication in the internet age, which in turn bodes ill for his campaign.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Huckabee: "everything Obama does 'is against what Christians stand for' on: February 10, 2015, 10:38:36 pm
Huckabee is trying to out-santorum Santorum.

This. It seems Huckabee isn't running to be elected president so much as for prominence in the Fox News consultant/book sales/speaking tour circuit.

The big problem for the Republicans here is that candidates like Huckabee are going to be spending the primaries promoting their own brand, at the expense of the Republicans' national brand.

20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Huckabee: "everything Obama does 'is against what Christians stand for' on: February 09, 2015, 02:51:27 pm
More hilarity from "candidate" Huckabee.

http://www.businessinsider.com/huckabee-everything-obama-does-is-against-what-christians-stand-for-2015-2
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Huckabee, a likely 2016 presidential candidate, even accused Obama on Monday of supporting radical Islam by refusing to specifically condemn it in his speech.

"Everything he does is against what Christians stand for, and he's against the Jews in Israel," Huckabee said on Fox News, according to video posted by Mediaite. "The one group of people that can know they have his undying, unfailing support would be the Muslim community. And it doesn't matter if it's the radical Muslim community

For bonus yuks, Huckabee managed to squeeze in some climate change denial in the same interview:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/huckabee-tears-into-obamas-prayer-speech-his-high-horse-is-the-teleprompter/

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“He said our greatest threat was climate change!” Huckabee continued. “I assure you that a beheading is much worse than a sunburn. This president couldn’t watch a western from the ’50s and know the difference between the good guys and the bad guys, even if John Wayne was starring in the film.”
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Huckabee complains about "trashy" language from women at Fox News on: February 06, 2015, 12:00:21 pm
Huckabee is not a remotely serious candidate at this point.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Wall Street's Dark secret on: February 06, 2015, 12:51:22 am
This thread lowers my opinion of HRC, and increases my opinion of Walker/Paul/Biden/Warren/Sanders.  I don't see why anyone would want a Wall Street stooge in the White House. 

Nonetheless, I'm not very trustworthy of the source.

We're going to be getting Wall Street stooges in the White House (and Treasury, and the Fed, and anywhere else that matters) no matter who we vote for.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Christie under criminal investigation on: February 06, 2015, 12:49:56 am

This is past the point where Christie's actual guilt or innocence ultimately matter. It may not be fair, but he's dead meat walking when in comes to the nomination.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I feel like the Republicans should sacrifice Paul this election on: February 06, 2015, 12:46:21 am
Like Goldwater and McGovern before him, just throw him out and get ready for the next election.

Given where the party is headed, I won't be surprised to see them start advocating witch-burnings. Or are you talking about more of a "sacrifice to dark gods" thing?

If its the latter, may I suggest you check out the Elder Party instead?
http://meatees.myshopify.com/pages/cthulhu-fhtagn
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gamergate on: February 03, 2015, 04:00:10 pm
I'm surprised that there hasn't been a discussion about all this, considering that it combines two recurring Atlas interests, nerd culture and (anti-)feminism. Anyway, this is the latest horrifying development.

Anyway, Gamergate is reason #1,000,000 why MRAs are horrible.

They're basically the Westboro Baptist Church of the Internet, and should be treated like the trolls they are: ignored whenever possible.
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