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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will the 2016 GOP be as big of a clowncar as 2012? Less? More on: July 06, 2015, 11:56:52 am
Bush is not a clown.

Cruz is not a clown.

Rubio is not a clown.

All three have solid credentials.

Santorum and most of the others should not be classified as clowns, but rather as lightweights and under qualified.

All three are unabashed climate change deniers. All three publicly supported Indiana's Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Bush likes to talk about how much he likes "scientific racist" Charle Murray, and he's tripped all over his clown shoes on the Iraq War. Ted Cruz's public advocacy for theocracy put him in the clown car even before he pulled a Strom Thurmond on Obamacare while reading Green Eggs and Ham. Rubio dog-whistles creationists about how old the Earth is, when he's not busy telling everyone how he thinks ISIS and Iran are on the same team.

They're all evil idiot clowns, and they will all willingly keep doing whatever slapstick they think will get them votes from the right wingnuts, no matter how stupid it is.

Regardless of your personal vehemence towards and your virulent contempt for these public servants, all three are very intelligent, competent, and well educated, and would be capable Chief Executives.

I agree that at least Rubio and Bush have the potential to be competent Presidents. But when it comes to campaigning for the nomination, all three have put on the same silly makeup and are honking the same horns as the decidedly non-serious members of their party. I don't care what they want to be when they grow up. Right now, they're clowns.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If you could predict the Republican nominee who would it be and why? on: July 06, 2015, 11:51:12 am
Bush. Money.

And machine. He's by no means the shoe-in Hillary is, but he's the most likely nominee right now.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The so-called "Demise" of the Republican Party is way overblown on: July 02, 2015, 01:49:28 pm
]As long as the GoP has control of SCOTUS, they will control the House. But, once redistricting or a liberal SCOTUS is in place, whichdever happen first,  the GOP gerrymandering is gottob rid of; thrn they will lose sway.

Latinos and blacks already have sealed up in large part 272 electors with CO, NV and Pa, and alot of social issues have gone the way of Europe.

GOP power is dwindling.

I think you're right. IF Clinton wins and (as is likely) appoints liberal Justices, the GOP is going to  the loss of their gerrymandered edge at the same time as they lose the demographic battle over the next decade.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will Obama be remembered in the top 10 of Presidents? on: July 02, 2015, 01:42:27 pm
I think it depends on how the next 10-15 years go. If the US faces major difficulties that are directly traceable back to his terms, he will likely end up in the bottom quartile. I think Shrub is headed to the same place.

Right now, over a year before his term is done, there's the potential for a major terror attack, a war, or an economic crash. Any of those will be attached to his legacy.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Best running mate for Christie? on: June 30, 2015, 12:17:38 pm
Well?

Serious answers please.

You had to go and qualify it like that. At this point, Christie is a bad candidate, and the fact that he's dumb enough to run only makes it even harder to take him seriously.

But lets pretend that there are some great speeches and he's somehow cleared of all wrongdoing. (Basically, he manages to reset himself to 2012 Christie.)  In such a situation, my first thought is Rubio (younger, southern, minority, pretty scandal-free), a degree of Tea Party appeal. He basically hits a sweet spot between Jeb and Cruz.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Scott Walker still can't answer questions on: June 29, 2015, 11:18:50 pm
So is Walker basically now the middle aged balding male version of Sarah Palin?

I think that's more Trump. Palin would have chastised the kid for giving into lame-stream media propaganda or called it a "gotcha question" and refused to answer point-blank.

Yeah, he didn't do *that* bad.

He really did. He's planning on formally running for President in a few weeks and the best response he can come up with to, "If you were president, what would you do about climate change?" is:

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"Well... you know I was a Boy Scout, and always thought maybe campsistes should be cleaner when we leave than when we found it do I'd try to work with people that care about that issue to make sure that we have a better place when we leave than when we found it."

He ought to have some idea what his position on anthropogenic global warming is going to be, and if the above is it, then he's grossly incapable as a national candidate. If this was an isolated incident, that would be one thing, but it's not. It's part of a pattern: Scott Walker doesn't actually think before speaking, even in interviews. He's going to slam his own campaign right into the ground, the only question is how long it will take and how hard he hits. If the Republicans are somehow really, really unlucky, they'll nominate him before he crashes and burns. But I don't think his campaign makes it to January, unless they give him a brain transplant.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinion of Jindal's campaign slogan: "Tanned. Rested. Ready." on: June 29, 2015, 10:57:50 pm
Surely someone on his staff must have remember this:



They were floating around in the 90s, too.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bold predictions. on: June 29, 2015, 09:56:28 am
Walker is out very early, months before Iowa, possibly even before the first debate.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Scott Walker still can't answer questions on: June 29, 2015, 09:53:13 am
Even when they're from a grade-school kid.

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-7-year-old-makes-scott-walker-crash-and-burn-with-2-questions/
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If you were president, what would you do about climate change?, the young man asked the Republican governor.

Trying to keep his composure, Scott Walker evaded the simple question, giving the boy an unintelligible answer about being a Boy Scout and keeping campsites clean, but the brave young man pressed on:

Do you even care about climate change?

At this point, the governor continued to crash and burn, giving a second unintelligible answer about securing natural resources for everyone, completely evading the boys question and exposing himself as the intellectual lightweight and political fraud that he is.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rand Paul: Government Should Get Out of the Marriage Business Altogether on: June 29, 2015, 09:46:05 am
Is this just meant to appeal to dumb libertarians?

That could be a description of Rand Paul's entire political career.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: From a macro level, what is the GOP's "platform" now? on: June 29, 2015, 09:43:02 am
Since same-sex marriage is now "the law of the land", I think it's pretty clear that Republicans will be pushing some variation of change the Constitution, or ignore the law.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Walker doesn't jump in, where will his support go to? on: June 29, 2015, 09:40:48 am
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I'm sure the Kochs will eventually end up funding whoever gets the nomination, both directly and indirectly. But up until that point, idk. It looks like what they want from a candidate is a balance of presumed electability, their traditional anti-regulation and anti-global warming stance, and ready subservience. Rand Paul gives them the first two, but seems a little shaky and independent-minded, so idk. Cruz maybe?
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Can Hillary Clinton win? on: June 24, 2015, 11:56:00 am
What would need to happen for this to occur?

First, the Republican party needs to fail at nominating a competent and/or nationally viable candidate. Second, the last year and change of the Obama administration needs to not be a complete and utter disaster. Fortunately for Hillary Clinton's presidential aspirations, both of these scenarios presently appear quite likely.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What's the probability that the GOP pres. nominee is not Bush, Rubio, or Walker? on: June 24, 2015, 10:45:42 am
VERY VERY little....it will end up eventually being one of the three, my money tho is on Bush or Rubio over walker.

I agree. The chances of it not being any of those three is 5% or less. (And I don't think Walker is a viable national candidate, solely because of how he handles interviews. He's close to Palin-level already.) Perry, Jindal, Pataki, and Christie could theoretically be serious candidates, but are extremely unlikely to gain any traction, mainly due to their own flaws.

Rand is a "kook" and rejected by a good swathe of the establishment. Kasich might have an outside shot... there's the real dark horse. (Idk if his Lehman Bros. experience kills his shot at the nomination or not - it could certainly be used to finish him in the general.)

Carson, Cruz, Fiorina, Graham, Huckabee, Santorum, and Trump are not serious candidates, any more than Vermin Supreme, even if the media likes to pretend that they are. (If any of them do get them nomination, it will only be a sign of the Republican Party's decay.)


 
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which of the 2016 candidates are Satan-worshipping, reptillian shapeshifters? on: June 23, 2015, 10:52:20 pm
It's really not nice to insult demonic lizard-people by comparing them to Republican presidential candidates.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who would be weakest against Clinton? on: June 23, 2015, 12:11:39 pm
Jeb is no prize; he takes all possibility of 'dynasty' or 'previous administration' criticism off the table. But I voted Walker, in the unlikely even he actually gets the nomination he will have shoved his foot so far into his mouth by then that he'll be chewing on his hip when he tries to talk.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Do Republicans want to lose? on: June 22, 2015, 12:54:56 am
Rand Paul has no chance of getting the nomination, so talking about his electability is pointless.


No Chance is overkill - if he just drops a little in the polls, and then the first debate is hit by a meteor that wipes out all the participants, he'll be the frontrunner! (And that's about what I think it would take for him to win the nomination. At best, he puts up a Santorum-style fight.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Hillary win a single precinct in Colorado? on: June 22, 2015, 12:51:54 am
She'll win the 1st Congressional District even if she's caught sacrificing infants to Baalzebub on video in front of an unimpeachable studio audience. Idk if she can carry the state though.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sander's Chances on: June 21, 2015, 10:05:22 am
Neither. If he gets the nomination, he's the next George McGovern.
^^^^^ Much as I like his ideas myself, the country hasn't shifted that far yet.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who will be the first Republican Candidate to drop out? on: June 19, 2015, 10:54:28 pm
I'll go out on a limb and predict it will be Walker, the flubmeister, who isn't in technically "in" yet.

So you're projecting the fastest drop in primary history? I'd be surprised if he falls that far that quickly.

It's by no means certain that his campaign will flame out so quickly, but I think it's possible, even likely. A handful of prominent interview flubs immediately post-announcement could cause his backers abandon him in search of someone smarter than Quayle. Or the long-simmering campaign finance case could finally result in an indictment.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who will be the first Republican Candidate to drop out? on: June 17, 2015, 04:37:02 pm
I'll go out on a limb and predict it will be Walker, the flubmeister, who isn't in technically "in" yet.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Dirt on Mario Rubio -- a "Scarlet Letter" law in 2001 on: June 14, 2015, 10:27:06 pm
Bush and Rubio are no different than the Taliban.

The Taliban are bad guys, and our enemies, but its still not nice to insult them like that.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Brit PM Cameron calls Walker a liar on: June 13, 2015, 08:08:30 am
Walker OTOH shows once again that he is woefully unprepared, to say the least, for the national spotlight.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: IA Straw Poll has been cancelled on: June 13, 2015, 01:00:09 am
RIP FF.

Carson and the others like him will be sorely disappointed.

Maybe he can whine about how it's discrimination?
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Better chance to be comeback kid 2016 - Christie or Perry? on: June 13, 2015, 12:58:37 am
Perry. The voters believe he's stupid. While that's not a great starting point, it's better than having the voters believe you're a criminal.
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