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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Gut feeling about the Hillary campaign on: May 27, 2016, 10:40:09 pm
My gut feeling is that we're going to see the Clinton campaign do an imitation of a failed Space-X landing over the next 2-3 months. Like a bad driver sliding on ice, they're going to over-correct and otherwise do the exact opposite of what they need to. It'll be a flaming wreck moving at high speed by the end of August.

My gut on Trump (which hasn't exactly been reliable so far) is that something (tax records, mafia connection, prostitutes, his mental illness) is eventually going to give, and he will publicly implode into the failed joke he really already is. (But might still win against the wreckage of the HMS Hillary Clinton.)
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: "There is No Drought" in California on: May 27, 2016, 10:32:11 pm
The kind of thing any other person would get crucified for saying.

This is what I mean when I say that the media is not giving him the type of coverage he deserves. His candidacy has been normalized and legitimized, when there's nothing normal about it at all.


3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will there be general election debates? on: May 27, 2016, 10:31:18 pm
No. Trump is going to hold out for including the Green and Libertarian candidates, if not something even crazier, and Clinton will refuse, with each blaming the other for the lack of a debate.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would you do if you have a sea of Trump signs near your house on: May 27, 2016, 04:45:08 pm
How would you feel if you saw a sea of Trump for president signs near your house or apartment, and have you seen it?

I have not seen any such thing. If I did, I'd just put out a Bernie sign and watch them run in terror.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / When will Trump finally chicken-out for good? on: May 27, 2016, 04:42:43 pm
Don Trump John Miller has once again demonstrated that when the going gets tough, he turns from his normal shade of Cheeto to the same color as what he calls hair.  How long before the onslaught of female reporters, liberal Jews, and righteous Native Americans causes him to flee back to rating prostitutes in his low-budget Bond-villain lair, muttering quotes from Mein-Kampf?
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Campaign Planning Swing State Level Effort in NY, Possibly in CA as Well on: May 27, 2016, 04:28:46 pm
I mean, it's good that he's trying to expand the map.... but NY? CA? Seriously?

It's all talk. He'll chicken out.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie says 'Game on' to debate with Trump. on: May 27, 2016, 04:28:19 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/politics/trump-says-he-will-not-debate-sanders/index.html?sr=twCNN052716trump-says-he-will-not-debate-sanders0830PMStoryLink&linkId=24952968

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"Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and (Debbie) Wasserman-Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second-place finisher," Trump said in a statement.



(Really, he's all three  - heartless, brainless AND spineless.)
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie says 'Game on' to debate with Trump. on: May 27, 2016, 04:26:06 pm
There is no bigger coward then Donald Trump. Hardly shocking he made this decision.

Everyone here thought this debate would happen except me who said Trump would dodge.

I didn't think it would happen, Trump is a poor debater and Bernie would have had nothing to lose.

You are right. Trump is a poor debater, in fact, he's a poor speaker altogether. He talks like a child.

No, the Cowardly Liar talks like a spoiled, stupid adolescent.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Fights Summer Trial in Trump University Lawsuit on: May 27, 2016, 02:52:42 pm
I actually agree with him here.  The trial should be after the election.

Why though? If he is guilty in this, don't the people have a right to know that before the election? Everyone seems to think it's important that Hillary be held accountable beforehand, so why not Trump?

If it's a jury trial, it will be biased by jurors who secretly want to swing the election one way or another.  BTW this is why congress impeaches and convicts the president rather than a citizen jury, so the politics of the trial is all out in the open for the people to approve (1868) or disapprove (1998) of.

Then Trump can request a bench trial. I doubt the judge will object.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which statement best describes Trump? on: May 27, 2016, 02:51:14 pm
I'm kinda torn between any of these.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump blasts Warren for claiming Native heritage but lies about his own ..... on: May 26, 2016, 11:06:36 pm
Every time you blink your eyes, Trump lies.

Untrue. I can't possibly blink that fast for that long.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is worse? on: May 26, 2016, 10:32:09 pm
Trump doesn't even know enough about a given political issue to not accidentally flip flop when speaking later

I'm really starting to think he has Alzheimer's, or some similar form of dementia.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump blasts Warren for claiming Native heritage but lies about his own ..... on: May 26, 2016, 10:30:49 pm
I think "blasts" is inappropriate. A more accurate description would be "pathetically bleats" or "once again demonstrates the acuity of an exceptionally shallow and mentally handicapped teen".
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is Newt Gingrich talking about? on: May 26, 2016, 10:19:51 pm
I saw this quote from Newt Gingrich in an article today:

"No one in American history has moved from a June 16 announcement to a May 26 winning of a majority," former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, rumored to be among the candidates on Trump's vice presidential short-list, wrote on Twitter Thursday. "Trump's achievement is remarkable."

What is his point?  Is he talking about exact dates?  Because otherwise, every 4 years 1 candidate in each party has moved from announcing their candidacy to winning a majority.  The historical aspect of this one is that Trump was opposed by the establishment.

He's not making sense because his mouth is full of Trump, but I think the correct interpretation of his "words" is: "Please make me your VP, Mister Trump".
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to soften stance on Muslims - says Paul Manafort on: May 26, 2016, 09:56:15 pm
I'm starting to wonder if he has Alzheimer's.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie says 'Game on' to debate with Trump. on: May 26, 2016, 05:34:01 pm
Cowardly Donny names an intentionally exorbitant sum that the networks will never pay because it allows him to look smug and cocky while evading getting called out on the national stage for his vacuousness.  Unfortunately many will fall for this.

Even if someone comes up with the money, Trump will still chicken out.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP news LATEST: Lewandowski hints pick will come from Congress on: May 26, 2016, 03:05:41 pm
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Politics1.com
‏@Politics1com
Trump unlikely to pick women/minority VP runningmate, per Trump camp mgr Paul Manafort: "That would be viewed as pandering."

https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/735634266898341888

Here's an article that expands on those comments:
https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/donald-trump-paul-manafort-general-election_us_574619eee4b0dacf7ad3e201/amp?client=safari#

This is a pretty remarkable quote from that story:

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“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO."

“There is a long list of who that person could be," Manafort added, "and every one of them has major problems.”

The campaign probably won't choose a woman or a member of a minority group, he said. “In fact, that would be viewed as pandering, I think.”

Really?  Every single potential running mate on your list has "major problems"?  I'm not saying that's wrong, but it's not usually something that you'd expect someone in the campaign to publicly admit. Tongue

Logically, it has to be true though. Consider, every potential Trump VP will either refuse to be on a ticket with Trump, or is willing to be on a ticket with Trump. If they refuse, that's a pretty major problem right their. And if they are willing to be on a ticket with Trump, it proves that they're either lizard-people or have had their brains replaced with tapioca, either of which is also a major problem.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Leftists only: Who do you hate more? on: May 26, 2016, 02:59:50 pm
'Hate' is (barely) too strong, but I certainly dislike TrumpMiller a great deal. While I don't see eye to eye with Sanders, I like the general direction he's going, and he's walked the walk regarding his position of respect on the left.

19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie says 'Game on' to debate with Trump. on: May 26, 2016, 11:17:52 am
ITT: Posters jumping on rumors from unknown sources about Trump backing out without any official word directly from Trump's campaign.

"Random internet rumors" have a higher correlation with the truth than "official word from Trump's campaign".
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN: Who in the world wants Trump to be president? on: May 26, 2016, 11:16:04 am
It's because Trump is getting fair coverage almost everywhere else. Reality is biased against him, and he is objectively unqualified. It's honestly a first, and it's terrifying.

Back in the United States though, the press is treating all this like it's normal. I sure hope he gets held accountable soon.

I don't think the media is treating it like it's normal,; they know it's crazy and that's good for ratings.

They are though. So far as I can tell, there is, and has been, a complete and utter absence of "is Trump qualified" stories. (The answer is, "no way in hell".) By treating him seriously while ignoring his ignorance, they've effectively legitimized him.

Tearing down his opponent as a corrupt unlikable criminal shrill bitch that will be in jail soon for the past year and a half did far more to legitimize him than the absence of criticism of his qualifications. Due to the media's sexism, old vendetta, and need for a horse race, it isn't hard to see why he could potentially be seen as "the lesser of two evils."

That said, even if that never happened, he still wouldn't be heading for Goldwater or Mondale-esque defeat. Everyone would get their partisan hats on by November and he'd get the bare minimum 45% that you receive just for showing up and having an (R) or (D) next to your name.

For a little while there, I was hoping for a modicum of basic human decency from at least some measurable fraction of the Republicans.

But now that the bandit has broken into the castle and killed the old, fat, and lazy royal family, all the nobles are eager to crown him as the new king, and the peasants are bowing down eagerly at his vague promises of a better future while ignoring the trail of peasant bodies behind him.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: GOP will become "workers' party" on: May 26, 2016, 11:11:13 am
Q: How do you know Trump is lying?
A: Trump is always lying.

22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie says 'Game on' to debate with Trump. on: May 26, 2016, 10:58:10 am
Trump is a weak bitch who would have gotten clowned and he knows it, so he ran away.

Hillary will destroy him in any remotely well-adjudicated debate.

My bet is that Trump will try his utmost to open the debate up to third party candidates. The less time he has to get buttonholed and demonstrate his idiocy, the better for him. He may even bail on the debates (claiming the RNC agreed to them, not him) if it's one on one vs Clinton or anyone else.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie says 'Game on' to debate with Trump. on: May 26, 2016, 10:54:47 am
Hahahaha!!! The senile old fart from Vermont was fooled again.
What an embarrassment. Imagine him running in the general.

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/735830924164620288

Multiple sources tell @Cbsnews that Trump was kidding about debating Sanders & it will never happen.

Cowardly liar acts like cowardly liar. Zero surprise.
Clinton (and her supporters) do not get to complain about this. If it happens (Trump is a lying coward, after all),
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN: Who in the world wants Trump to be president? on: May 26, 2016, 10:22:20 am
It's because Trump is getting fair coverage almost everywhere else. Reality is biased against him, and he is objectively unqualified. It's honestly a first, and it's terrifying.

Back in the United States though, the press is treating all this like it's normal. I sure hope he gets held accountable soon.

I don't think the media is treating it like it's normal,; they know it's crazy and that's good for ratings.

They are though. So far as I can tell, there is, and has been, a complete and utter absence of "is Trump qualified" stories. (The answer is, "no way in hell".) By treating him seriously while ignoring his ignorance, they've effectively legitimized him.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton E-Mail Use Violated Rules, State Department Audit Finds on: May 26, 2016, 08:24:20 am
Hillary is blowing this whole election and her hacks are too delusional to see this

How is she blowing the election? There is a complexity about her on many levels, and there are many accomplishments she has made over the course of many years. Are you compartmentalizing her into a tiny box because of the email situation?
She was already was planning a run while SOS so she should have known not to pull this stunt, I don't think you realize she has fallen into a tie with DONALD TRUMP, as with her "accomplishments" being female and being married to someone important are not achievements

The crown jewel of her CV is her tenure as Secretary of State. And that can be spun either negatively or positively.

Positive: look at everything she got done, all the crises she kept from blowing up.

Negative: look at all the ticking bombs she left, that started to explode the moment she was clear.
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