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126  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: SD-Nielson Brothers Polling: Ron Paul leading ! on: December 19, 2011, 05:22:04 pm
This is a fake. I really just can't buy that Republicans are now into Paul's isolationist program.

Hes not an isolationist. He is a noninterventionist. There is a drastic difference.

Said difference being the connotations?
127  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: 2012 GOP nomination Intrade rankings on: December 19, 2011, 05:20:49 pm
Wait, jmfcst left? Why?
128  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: Daily Gallup GOP Tracking Poll Thread on: December 19, 2011, 04:55:58 pm
What about these numbers still doesn't indicated Romney is finished?  Maybe if the Gingrich numbers shifted to Romney. It just means someone else might will beat him.

Eh? The numbers don't indicate that Romney is dominating, as GOP frontrunners from 1952-2004, excepting 1964, tended to do by this point.

They do not, however, indicate that he is finished. A close second in national polls, before any state has yet voted, is a lot better than certain other candidates at this point who went on to win the nomination.
129  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Can anyone stop Romney now? on: December 19, 2011, 01:08:17 pm
What's stopping Mark Sanford from getting in?

Haha, good one.
130  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: NH PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Romney clearly ahead on: December 19, 2011, 01:05:11 pm
So if Romney wins Iowa, he'll win NH.

If Paul wins Iowa, everyone and their dog rallies around Romney to stop Paul, and Romney probably wins NH.

I think the only way Romney even faces a real race now, is if Perry comes in 3rd in Iowa and turns into the Southern candidate.
131  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: SC PrimR: Insider Advantage: Gingrich remains ahead in South Carolina on: December 19, 2011, 01:02:58 pm
This one is weird in that everyone is slipping or NC. Compared to other recent polls of the state, only undecided is significantly on the rise.

For late December, that's odd... or maybe just unusually honest.
132  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: CNN: Gingrich & Romney tied on: December 19, 2011, 01:01:46 pm
Wow.

If other polls bear this result out, then for the first time the collapse of an ABR is accompanied by a Romney surge.

History may prove Mitt's strategy correct, after all.
133  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: If Romney wins Iowa, it's over, right? on: December 18, 2011, 11:31:56 pm
One thing is for certain:
1. Paul will drag this thing out as long as possible and his supporters won't give up.

Ok but that's meaningless when it's 90% vs. 10%.

I'd say it's more like 70-30 or 65-35 which is still fairly meaningless but it would still give us something to watch. Maybe Paul could win Montana one on one against Romney.

Are you out of your mind? You think 30-35% of this party identifies with Ron Paul? Please get serious.

One third of the party would rather vote for Ron Paul than Mitt Romney.

That is an absurd statement.

One third of voters, according to polls, is something like Paul's absolute ceiling. And that's before people really start to pay attention.

I think 10-12% is about right, nationally, though higher in some states.
134  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: PPP Poll Preview - Newt falling fast, possibly 3rd in Iowa. on: December 18, 2011, 07:37:16 pm
Wow, what happened?

Quote
Over the span of eight years, Gingrich consulted for Freddie Mac, a home mortgage company, which was concerned about new regulations under consideration by Congress. Regarding payments of $1.6 million for the consulting, Gingrich said that "Freddie Mac paid Gingrich Group, which has a number of employees and a number of offices a consulting fee, just like you would pay any other consulting firm."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich

Despite claiming to be a political outsider once he left Congress, he has proved to be a corrupt insider since then.  The profitable entities that he has operated don;t even create jobs for counter workers an pizza bakers at pizzerias.

Cain, however, created lots of pizza jobs - and more importantly, lots of pizza!
135  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Can Paul beat Romney? on: December 17, 2011, 11:11:45 pm
Hahaha. No.

60-70% of republicans are Yellow Dog level anybody-but-Paul's.
136  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Hanukkah starts at sunset on the 20th. on: December 17, 2011, 01:07:26 pm
Relevance?

Hanukkah is around the same time as Christmas, but it is not nearly as important a holiday. Jewish voters are not going to stop paying attention to politics on Hannukah the way Christian voters will on Christmas and New Years.

I suppose some candidate could gain some minor support with a tasteful event at a Des Moines or Manchester synagogue. But no one expects or insists on it.
137  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: New Rasmussen Poll: Romney Leading in Iowa on: December 16, 2011, 03:56:52 pm
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Silver is objective and accurate in his projections

BWWHWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH!

He's a pathetic sniveling piece of filth. An ignorant hack. A worthless piece of garbage.

He's also often wrong.

According to Weasel Silver, the redefinition of marriage was a done deal in Maine. He kept harping how the polls all showed the referendum was going to fail, and there was nothing anyone could do about it. Even on election night, he was crowing about how good it looked for the redefinition of marriage because of the numbers in Portland.

NOPE DIDN'T HAPPEN.

According to Weasel Silver, John Fleming was a goner to Paul Carmouche. Even on election night, he was blogging that it was all over and Carmouche was going to win.

NOPE DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Dude. Chill.
138  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Caption this ... on: December 16, 2011, 02:56:23 pm
Aoww, a woise guy, eh?
139  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Who won the debate? on: December 16, 2011, 01:41:16 am
Bachmann and Perry are stupid farmers.

LOL

You forgot about Santorum, though. Is he the creepy farmers' kid, the lovechild of Bachmann and Perry so to speak, suffering from repressed homosexual desires for Bret Baier? Maybe that's why Santorum makes that funny face every time he speaks...

Santorum probably has a second life raping male children at night or something like that, you can see it in his eyes.

Well, it would explain the existence of Santorum's supporters, right? That is, they are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome...

They are like the character Tim Robbins played in Mystic River.

Except substitute Philadelphia for Boston, right?

Santorum is connected to Pittsburgh, not Philly.
140  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Most annoying moderators on: December 16, 2011, 12:33:15 am
Diane Sawyer, easily.
141  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Official Fox News/Iowa GOP Debate Thread on: December 15, 2011, 10:54:45 pm
Ronald Reagan also brought clarity to the his opponents.
142  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Official Fox News/Iowa GOP Debate Thread on: December 15, 2011, 10:50:26 pm
Her first "fact" is that she is a serious candidate for president.

Ipso facto, Gingrich is right: Bachmann's facts are wrong.
143  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Official Fox News/Iowa GOP Debate Thread on: December 15, 2011, 10:49:32 pm
Bachmann: but can I rebuttal?
144  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Official Fox News/Iowa GOP Debate Thread on: December 15, 2011, 10:33:15 pm
MEMO TO RON PAUL: TERRORISM IS NOT THE SAME AS DEALING WITH THE LIKES OF THE USSR!!!!!!

The guy is idiotic with foreign policy. He will never win the nomination simply because of this fact.

Scary stuff coming from the libertarian.
Why should Iran not have nukes? Give me a reason, and I will debunk it Wink

Iran supports Hezbollah, which has said its goal is to kill all Jews. Not all Israelis. All Jews, in the world.

A source:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/hezbollahs-goal-going-aft_b_26983.html

That has nothing to do with nukes. Cuba wants to spread Communism throughout Africa. What else is new?

It doesn't scare you that a political entity that has pushed for the extermination of ALL JEWS in the WORLD is about to get nuclear weapons?

You wouldn't at least call it a reason why they should not have nukes?
Do you honestly believe that? That the 1940's will be repeated? With NATO, the UN, and other mass alliances (SEATO, etc), a mass, international invasion would be launched (and I would support it) against Iran.

Irans leaders are evil people who only care about themselves. Thats why Iran and North Korea are building nukes---to make themselves look big and scary.

I think SEATO is defunct.

And I never said Iran would succeed, thankfully. But you asked for reasons why Iran should not have nukes. I think I have given a pretty good one.
145  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Official Fox News/Iowa GOP Debate Thread on: December 15, 2011, 10:27:09 pm
MEMO TO RON PAUL: TERRORISM IS NOT THE SAME AS DEALING WITH THE LIKES OF THE USSR!!!!!!

The guy is idiotic with foreign policy. He will never win the nomination simply because of this fact.

Scary stuff coming from the libertarian.
Why should Iran not have nukes? Give me a reason, and I will debunk it Wink

Iran supports Hezbollah, which has said its goal is to kill all Jews. Not all Israelis. All Jews, in the world.

A source:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/hezbollahs-goal-going-aft_b_26983.html

That has nothing to do with nukes. Cuba wants to spread Communism throughout Africa. What else is new?

It doesn't scare you that a political entity that has pushed for the extermination of ALL JEWS in the WORLD is about to get nuclear weapons?

You wouldn't at least call it a reason why they should not have nukes?
146  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Official Fox News/Iowa GOP Debate Thread on: December 15, 2011, 10:24:02 pm
MEMO TO RON PAUL: TERRORISM IS NOT THE SAME AS DEALING WITH THE LIKES OF THE USSR!!!!!!

The guy is idiotic with foreign policy. He will never win the nomination simply because of this fact.

Scary stuff coming from the libertarian.
Why should Iran not have nukes? Give me a reason, and I will debunk it Wink

Iran supports Hezbollah, which has said its goal is to kill all Jews. Not all Israelis. All Jews, in the world.

A source:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/hezbollahs-goal-going-aft_b_26983.html
147  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Official Fox News/Iowa GOP Debate Thread on: December 15, 2011, 10:18:50 pm
Spreading "Jihad" across the world = Bad.

Spreading "freedom" across the world = Good.

You're right. Objectively, there's really no difference between the ideology of democracy and others like communism, fascism, Nazism and theocracy. Spreading one is just the same as another.

It's just impossible to say that one of those forms of government is any better than the next, empirically speaking.
148  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: PPP preview of IA, VA & NM on: December 14, 2011, 01:52:11 pm
I had a post a while back- called Ron Paul could be the GOP nominee... everyone laughed but look now

He can't be the GOP nominee. The party elders would literally never allow it to happen. He could win Iowa though.

The party elders have no say anymore... who do you mean anyway- Bushes/Rove/Koch???

If Ron Paul entered the Republican Convention with a clear delegate majority, he would leave cheated.  The way the GOP convention has set up the primary calendar this year, and the way individual states have implemented The Rules leaves most of the early states open to all kinds of credentials challenges.  Mr. Morden can elaborate better then I.  Regardless, there are plenty of openings that Stop Paul types could use to derail his hypothetical candidacy.

They'd have to be suicidal to block Ron Paul if he won a majority of delegates. He'd almost certainly run third party and lose the Republicans the election (At best) or split the party altogether and ruin the Republican chances in the future too.

A majority? Not a plurality, but a majority? ASB.
149  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: NH PrimR: Insider Advantage: Ron Paul makes it a race ! on: December 14, 2011, 12:32:43 pm
So what happens if Paul wins Iowa and follows up with a win in New Hampshire.  This scenario has become increasingly plausible over the past 24 hours.

The other candidates bring out the big guns. So far nobody has attacked Paul because he hasn't been seen as relevant and the media refuses to take him seriously, but if there's any sign he might get ahead, there will be an onslaught of attack ads about his stance on Israel, his statements about foreign policy, and some of the questionable statements about race he's made in the past.

Right. In addition, if at all possible, the remaining electorate will rally behind someone else, presumably but not necessarily Romney or Gingrich.

If this proves impossible and it really becomes a three-way race, well, that's by far the most plausible way to get a late-entry candidate (Jeb or Giuliani, perhaps) and/or a brokered convention.
150  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Anybody else grown to despise Mittens? on: December 14, 2011, 09:20:40 am
He reminds me somewhat of John Kerry.  Someone who the base of the party is ambivalent to, but who will undoubtedly be championed due to the dislike of the current President.  If Romney wins the nomination the GOP base will quickly change tune and go after Obama. 

But that's the thing. A lot of Dems in '04 were ambivalent to Kerry, but visceral dislike was pretty rare, as I recall.
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