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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: . on: August 30, 2014, 10:54:45 pm
Ugh, I appreciated what Beet said.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Pacific Council. on: August 30, 2014, 09:54:26 pm
Aren't there supposed to be individual threads for each bill? Or am I mistaken?
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: does bushie represent the average oklahoman? on: August 30, 2014, 07:49:50 pm
Why does saying you are above average constitute making fun of Oklahomans? And why does this necessitate you saying something as ludicrous as "Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are among the best universities in the world.  My education at Northwestern Oklahoma State University is just as good as a Harvard education"? Chances are it was actually more expensive than what you'd pay had you gone to Harvard.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How do you pronounce Oregon? on: August 30, 2014, 07:47:06 pm
Or-REH-gihn.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: August 30, 2014, 03:51:00 pm
Fascinating, water weight can account for your weight gain, but not your loss...
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wind Rising: Predict Teachout's Total % of the Vote on: August 30, 2014, 03:43:55 pm
The primary is on the ninth? Who knows what might happen. How's Cuomo's GOTV effort shaping up?
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: August 30, 2014, 01:54:27 pm
Talk about absurdity:

I want to know what would happen if you run a small business, and your religion requires you to allow unions and free bargaining. Wouldn't a "right-to-work" law violate freedom of religion?
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Americans both support unions and right to work laws on: August 30, 2014, 01:53:29 pm
...what?
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: August 30, 2014, 01:52:18 pm

Good news. I like Portman, he seems to be the centrist sort of thinking person focused on development and providing quality government services rather than a paranoid right-winger.

I could see myself voting for Portman, though I disagree with your assessment that he's a centrist.

On economic issues, he definitely isn't.  I don't know that I'd even call him a centrist so much as someone who is great at sounding like a centrist.

Centrist in relative terms, that is. Moderate in temperament and all that.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2016 primary calendar tilts towards the South on: August 30, 2014, 01:43:03 pm
Bad news.
11  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Obama is distant, aloof, weak and absent on: August 30, 2014, 01:41:38 pm
If past presidents had ever golfed, we probably would have long ago seen Russia act aggressively, Islamic radicals overthrow the Shah, conflict between Israel and Arabs and maybe even disease outbreaks.

Indeed, Carter's cardigan wearing was a sign of great weaknesa.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Pacific Voting Booth: The War Powers Amendment on: August 30, 2014, 01:38:17 pm
Nay.
13  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: 15 year old given twenty five years for 'swatting' on: August 30, 2014, 01:21:31 pm
Deserves it.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Pacific Voting Booth: The War Powers Amendment on: August 30, 2014, 01:17:45 pm
Please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN on the amendment in question. Editing your ballot more than 20 minutes after casting it will invalidate your vote. Voting begins immediately and ends in exactly 7 days.

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War Powers Amendment:

Article I, Section 5, Clause 18 of the Constitution shall be amended to read the following:

18. To have the sole power to authorize War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning captures on land and water. War shall be authorized by the Senate via a Declaration of War in case of armed conflict against a sovereign nation or via an Authorization of Force in case of armed conflict or against terrorist or rebel groups. The Senate shall retain the right to withdraw authorization via Senate resolution.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 4 of the Constitution shall be amended to read the following:

4. The President shall have the power to authorize limited combat operations without congressional approval only when it involves repelling or preventing imminent attacks against the Republic of Atlasia, its territorial possessions, its embassies, its consulates, or its armed forces abroad, foreign disaster relief, covert operations and rescuing Atlasian citizens abroad, with a limit of three weeks for combat operations. If said power is invoked by the President or if Senate authorizes war via a Declaration of War and/or an Authorization of Force, the Senate shall be informed on a weekly basis of the progress made so far in order to authorize further and/or continued efforts.

The clause previously numbered as Clause 4 and all subsequent clauses of this section shall be renumbered accordingly.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: August 2014 Napa Valley Earthquake Relief for the Pacific Act (Debating) on: August 30, 2014, 01:00:47 pm
That sounds sensible. Also, I would like to thank the Senator for introducing this legislation on behalf of his constituents. The winemakers of Napa are critical to our region's economy, with their global exports worth billions, and their fine wines integral to many fine diets and menus.
16  Questions and Answers / Presidential Election Process / Re: Circumventing 22nd Amendment via Resignation on: August 30, 2014, 12:56:56 pm
Or for that matter if we ever have some crazy Putin type, he could keep running as the Vice President of someone who resigns after a day or two and thus serve multiple terms so long as never is elected to a term of his own.  Of course, you'd think anyone popular enough to keep getting pseudo-reelected would be able to get the XXIInd amendment repealed.

He'd only have to be elected to one term for this to work, however.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Аverroës vs. PPT TNF on: August 30, 2014, 12:33:02 pm
Will the Justice confirm my brief has been seen and is in order?
18  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is overpopulation and the human breeding the root of all evil on the planet ? on: August 30, 2014, 11:28:43 am
Overpopulation is not real. Modern day Malthuses are as wrong as ever. That graph is also idiotic.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Ukrainian Technical, Economical and Military Aid (Debating) on: August 30, 2014, 11:10:42 am
I condemn the TNF-esque provision to relocate Tatars in a second expulsion. Crimea is Tartar land. The provision is unconscionable.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Federal Marriage Amendment (Debating) on: August 30, 2014, 10:52:20 am
Banning incest is a public health matter. This is easy.  Polygamy has been legalised without any consideration what's over of the legal and tax purposes, and potential for fraud. It is so infernally complicated that we are better off ending recognition of marriage rather than attempting to deal with it. I hope the Senate sees sense and passes this.
Northeastern married individuals can no longer receive benefits as a result of their married status, so that's mute. IIRC in the group marriage bill we required all polygamous married couples seeking legal recognition to sign a prenup so that should settle any legal issues. This was decided after extensive discussion in the Assembly. Regardless, why pass a Constitutional amendment at the Federal level in order to prevent one Region's tax and legal issues?

Then what's the point of having the government recognise it at all?
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (LEADERSHIP DECLARATIONS!) on: August 30, 2014, 10:50:39 am
Everyone vote for Phoenix or San Diego!
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Peace and Prosperity Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 30, 2014, 10:49:29 am
I am truly honoured to be deemed a "key representative" of "Atlasian Capitalism".

Also, "neo-Nazi Kiev government"... Roll Eyes
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Federal Marriage Amendment (Debating) on: August 30, 2014, 10:33:17 am
Banning incest is a public health matter. This is easy.  Polygamy has been legalised without any consideration what's over of the legal and tax purposes, and potential for fraud. It is so infernally complicated that we are better off ending recognition of marriage rather than attempting to deal with it. I hope the Senate sees sense and passes this.

If it fails this session I imagine the next session would be more amenable to it.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: August 2014 Napa Valley Earthquake Relief for the Pacific Act (Debating) on: August 30, 2014, 10:14:13 am
The problem is most people in the region- only one in eight, if I recall- have earthquake insurance. Compounded with the general economic climate, this means costs will be very high; I recall reading only $2 billion would be covered by insurers.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Peace and Prosperity Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 30, 2014, 10:04:52 am
Might Senator TNF tell us how he intends to restructure the Korean Armed Forces? Is he aware that, right, the Korean Armed Forces are effectively under the operational control of the United States? How does he intend to guarantee the security of that critical ally? Will he support Shinzo Abe's attempts to amend Japan's constitution to allow for militarisation? How does he intend to prevent further expansion of austerity programmes in response to European countries picking up the slack left by this country? How does the Senator intend to allow the states of eastern Europe to resist further Russian aggression; does the Senator even oppose Russian aggression? Is the Senator aware of each and all of the functions of our overseas bases and the effects their closure would have, particularly on communications and air strikes? Does the Senator think that, for example, we should not be bombing ISIS? Or is just supporting a blanket closure on principle?

Why does the Senator seek the elimination of offensive capabilities of our armed forces? How familiar is the Senator with the the various military doctrines that inform the current composition and organisation of the armed forces? What does he mean by democratic election to the Security Council?  Does he think Nauru having the same vote as this country would be democratic? Or is this, again, all motivated by ideology rather than consideration of realities?
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