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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum IRC Channel, Thread 2 on: November 25, 2014, 10:38:11 am
I ask the IRC cabal to impose on me a 48 hour ban. Except for perhaps when Foucaulf or AverroŽs are around, I could show my ignorance to them by asking questions about papers I am writing.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement tonight) on: November 24, 2014, 11:25:06 pm
I mean are we just ignoring the robbery, the assault, the grabbing the gun, etc, etc? You guys seem to be engaging in the sort of "truthiness" that conservatives are so often mocked for; you built a narrative about what happened and you're just ignoring or rejecting any sort of evidence (i.e. most of it) that goes against it.
 
Is this modern liberalism? Proclaiming violent thuggish criminals to be martyrs and his assaulted victim to be a cold-blooded bigoted murder? If so, as it sadly seems, Rawls was wrong about liberalism, dead wrong. As I said:

I am a person who sees no reason to believe that a literal and indisputable robber and assaulter, perhaps even a committer of hate crimes (he said some nasty things to the South Asian shopkeeper, if I recall correctly), was somehow the innocent victim of a bloodthirsty bigot who just happened to coincidentally be in the area as the aforementioned assailant and robber was fleeing the scene.

Somehow the rest of you are privy to a completely different series of facts, apparently.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Governor Varavour on: November 24, 2014, 10:41:31 pm
I am taking a leave of absence until 11/27/2014 at 00:00 EST, effective immediately.

I delegate Speaker Spamage as Officer Administering the Government with the full powers of my office, with the exception of appointments to offices, for this period, unless the Constitution provides otherwise.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement tonight) on: November 24, 2014, 10:39:47 pm
Can this disgusting gap-toothed racist from Incestville, Arkansas please be removed from the forum asap? Ideally with large quantities of fire. Thanks.

Indeed. Neo-Confederate treason apologists must be exterminated.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement tonight) on: November 24, 2014, 10:35:16 pm
Justice has been served, a man will not be tried for defending himself from a criminal assaulter, robber, and police-assailant:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30188737

However, the criminal aggressor will nonetheless be seen as the victim, and the victim as a bloodthirsty, pugilistic racist. Disgusting- we all lose.

Do you have anything you want to tell us, Simfan? Anything going on in your personal life?

Yes, I would like to say I am a person who likes his local shopkeepers un-assaulted and un-robbed, and  someone who prefers that police guns maintain in police hands and not physically grabbed from them. I am a person who sees no reason to believe that a literal and indisputable robber and assaulter, perhaps even a committer of hate crimes (he said some nasty things to the South Asian shopkeeper, if I recall correctly), was somehow the innocent victim of a bloodthirsty bigot who just happened to coincidentally be in the area as the aforementioned assailant and robber was fleeing the scene.

And I am also rather offended (I would say indignant but my emotional supply is being used elsewhere at the moment) that this criminal is now supposed to stand for all us black men, that "we are all Michael Brown". Absolutely not! I don't rob bodegas, I don't assault shopkeepers, I don't fight with police and try to grab their gun. Brown should not have been shot dead, but he was unambiguously criminal. I am not a criminal.

I have lived in New York for most my life (yes, actually) and the most serious altercation I have had with a police officer was when I was 7-8 and touched the rims of a police car and was loudly berated by an officer. I have worked in the Bronx for a summer, I have walked all across Manhattan, in the middle of the night, and in un-affluent neighborhoods at that, and not once have I ever been as much spoken to by a police officer. I am black; despite the sweaters or bow ties or suede shoes, I am a black man. Whatever cultural or educational or monetary "privilege" I might possess would count for diddly-squat to some racist bigot cop. And yet here I am.

One last thing- the activists made a major blunder in focusing on Ferguson, on Brown, when their poor teen-aged victim turned out to be a violent delinquent, and not even in some milquetoast "he smoked marijuana some time prior to the shooting" manner as was the case with Trayvon Martin.

The contemporary shooting of John Crawford in an Ohio Walmart, a father buying food for a family barbeque, and who happened to be carrying a pellet gun sold in the store, by a police officer who did not as much bother to notice whether or not the shoppers in the store seemed to be alarmed, as anyone would by an "armed gunman" roaming the store. He was shot, in the back, while casually talking on the phone. Then, as he crawled up towards where he had stood, surely utterly confounded as to what had happened to him, the trigger happy cop shot him once more in cold blood. Crawford probably died without knowing why. The Grand Jury also declined to indict the bandits masquerading as law enforcement- and that is a travesty, as is the fact the attention of civil society groups and the global media was instead focused on making and debating the image of an innocent and blameless young man who was anything but.

And yes, Snowstalker, there are things going on in my personal life. I'm damn well near breaking point trying to finish a research proposal term paper by my self-imposed deadline tomorrow, which is unmovable because of the other, what, three?, term papers I also have to find time to write, and am positively livid at the various people (computer technician, oversleeping friend, professor who has elected to ADD a class on this coming Wednesday that we were not supposed to have!) who are getting in the way of my finishing my work and have wasted upwards of a dozen hours of my time. I am extremely stressed out and fraught with anxiety, yes. I am frustrated by the mere fact that I am writing this post (to Snowstalker of all people!) when I should be working. I am increasingly agitated by the mere act of typing this post.

Simfan out. RIP Michael Brown, may he enjoy the peace in the next life that he tragically lacked in this.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement tonight) on: November 24, 2014, 10:33:25 pm
We know that Officer Wilson will need to remain in hiding for quite sometime or move.  Maybe he and Casey Anthony should hook up?

Disgusting, particularly from a self-professed "Biblical Christian" such as yourself.

Also, one thing is clear. We need to ban pellet guns and any sort of "toy" that is deliberately designed to resemble for a working firearm.

We also need to ban civilian non-hunting firearms in altogether, with the exception of etc., etc. Then cops on the beat might not need to be armed, either.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement tonight) on: November 24, 2014, 09:37:24 pm
Justice has been served, a man will not be tried for defending himself from a criminal assaulter, robber, and police-assailant:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30188737

However, the criminal aggressor will nonetheless be seen as the victim, and the victim as a bloodthirsty, pugilistic racist. Disgusting- we all lose.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: November 24, 2014, 04:49:42 pm
That actually looks gross to me.

..........................

Presentation could be better but that actually looks pretty tasty. I'd go for that.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What time does your family eat dinner on Thanksgiving? on: November 24, 2014, 04:46:33 pm
Dinnertime (normal)

So 6-7pm.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 12-year-old Shot Dead by Police on: November 24, 2014, 10:54:07 am
Dumb people play with guns. They die.

If a nine-year-old went on a rampage with an Uzi, this might be noteworthy. As it stands, this story is no different than the gangland murders we ignore on a daily basis.

Who was the dumb person playing with guns here that died? The kid? Why can't the child handle a gun? Can it possibly be because she is a child?

People under, say, 16 shouldn't be able to shoot automatic weapons.  Even on a range, even with parental approval and a shooting instructor.

You may now go back to making jokes.

No one is making jokes. Children under sixteen should not be allowed to use guns, period. Automatic and semi-automatic weapons should be banned outright.

Guns should be banned, maybe except for certain people paying above a certain (very high) amount of taxes.

What is wrong with you? None of these people should have guns, ideally. But I am far more comfortable with the police having guns rather than literal children. I am sure no one denies far more people are shot dead by minors every year than by the police.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Giuliani:White Policemen Won't Be There If Blacks Weren't Killing Each Other on: November 24, 2014, 10:42:04 am
No. You shut up, you self-satisfied... I don't know. I'm not used to making insults.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Does the Midwest deserve Governor FitzGerald? on: November 24, 2014, 10:39:44 am
What taxes, you dolt?
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you support President Preceding Poster taking dictator executive actions? on: November 24, 2014, 10:38:39 am
Absolutely not.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is the marital status of your parents? on: November 24, 2014, 10:36:30 am
Americans will always amaze me with marriage.

My parents are together since more than 25 years, but are not married and won't marry.

Oh shut up. The French way is degenerate, a la Hollande. It is disgusting and repulsive.

Married, for 25 years.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is IceSpear going too far with the Hillary hackism? on: November 24, 2014, 10:25:35 am
The topic title and poll question are asking opposite questions.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will somebody please kick out Reid & Pelosi ? on: November 24, 2014, 10:23:24 am
That sounds good for Reid. Pelosi and Boehner are definitely survivors. You would think after the shutdown, Boehner would have been screwed...but Obama's Katrina came just in time (whether it was because of Government incompetence or Republican Computer Scientists or both).

What are you suggesting?
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Giuliani:White Policemen Won't Be There If Blacks Weren't Killing Each Other on: November 24, 2014, 10:16:05 am
Yup, Giuliani is a literal fascist. Always has been.

Shut up.

And this is the heroic progressive?: ""Can I say this, first of all, no black people who commit crimes against other black people go to jail."
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 12-year-old Shot Dead by Police on: November 24, 2014, 10:11:16 am
You should treat cops like people who might shoot you without a good reason. You shouldn't look at them, you shouldn't talk to them and you shouldn't mess around with fake guns near cops for God's sake.  And kids in places like Cleveland should never have toy guns, it's way too dangerous. 

This is absurd.

Why would you give a cop any reason to interact with you?  They're not there to be your friend.

Well, maybe the citizen-police relationship in the US has really come to a point where no interaction is the best policy, but I still find it absurd.

Citizens shouldn't be afraid to interact with the police in a democracy - saying that you should treat the police like a foreign occupation power (no eye contact, no talk etc.) is absurd. It can only increase the alienation between citizens and police if there is no normal human interaction between them.

Police officers are meant to service and help people, so they should be on friendly term with (law abiding) citizens.

If you pull out a gun in front of cops who are confronting you, what exactly do you expect?

This is a salient point. Moreover, this occurred in a public place, not some isolated spot where only the lives of the police and Tamir were at stake.

I heard the sound of gunshots while out for a walk earlier this week. The next day, police arrested a 15 year-old boy who'd fired a gun at another teenager in anger less than a block from the campus where my classes are held. In the United States, the idea that a 12 year-old is handling and and willing to fire a real gun rather than a toy is hardly implausible.

This is what Tamir's gun looked like, by the way. I wouldn't assume that it was fake if I saw someone carrying it.



Thread over, might as well lock it. And ban these sorts of things.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Kingmaker candidate? What if this were to happen? on: November 23, 2014, 12:53:25 pm


Some wealthy independent specifically targets a number of small non-swing states, running a low tech, ideologically amorphous campaign that manages to be dismissed as inconsequential by the two parties. Lots of diner meetings, house parties, New Hampshire style stuff except a year long. Come election day, however, the two parties are neck and neck 259-255 and the guy has won a number of states with small pluralities, and has the balance, 24.

How much can he get out of it? What happens?
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Could Wyoming go Democrat in 2016? on: November 23, 2014, 12:29:23 pm
If democrats spent all their GOTV money on getting democrats to move to Wyoming, maybe. It'd be the free state movement in reverse.

They should try that, a mere 200k-300k would be enough for those sorts of states.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Could South Dakota go Socialist in 2016? on: November 23, 2014, 12:17:14 pm
Yes of course.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / SNL degenerates into right wing propaganda on: November 23, 2014, 11:06:13 am
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_D32LVz_s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Rob/Bob/Anonymouse on: November 23, 2014, 09:23:03 am
I've never heard of him till now.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: November 22, 2014, 01:04:48 pm
Several bowls of cereal... lol
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of MW Governor LeBron FitzGerald (Polls Are Open!) on: November 22, 2014, 12:56:20 pm
Can you not spell?

And also:

I'd nearly forgotten that you have been ignoring my question about this:



I reiterate: Why do you support teaching creationism instead of evolution in science classrooms?
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