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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: July 27, 2014, 01:18:01 pm
Contributing this particularly because it eloquently demonstrates AG's total lack of understanding on how the national debt and deficit work.  Of course, I'm not going to argue with a child who throws a temper tantrum every time he loses a debate.

Looks like the debt is better than I thought. I thought we were already past 100%, or would be by the end of the decade.

The article only refers to public debt. Unlike national debt, public debt does not include intragovernment holdings. The article does not include the trillions we've borrowed from the SS trust fund, nor does it consider the enormous unfunded liabilities for SS and MED, which will both become part of the national debt, if we do not raise taxes on the middle class or reform spending.

The same public/national confusion led people to believe that the national debt was falling during the Clinton administration, which supported the balanced budget that never was.
2  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: WrathOfTheGods on: July 27, 2014, 01:03:16 pm
Oh, he's clearly a troll - albeit a very benign one.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win in North Carolina? on: July 27, 2014, 12:59:59 pm
Sean Haugh wins in an upset.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Pacific Stimulus: Allocations for July on: July 27, 2014, 02:34:54 am
FTR, I'm not necessarily opposed to this stimulus, but I do think that other regions deserve something as well.

If only I weren't typing from a cellphone, I'd write an amendment for that. Tongue
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Recognizing Excellence in Leadership Resolution (Debating) on: July 27, 2014, 01:56:26 am
Quote from: Amendment

To recognize the career and accomplishments of native IDS resident and 31st President Duke, as well as those of IDS Senator North Carolina Yankee, Attorney General PiT and prominent statesman Jbrase

Be it enacted by the Legislature of the Imperial Dominion of the South assembled


This legislation may be cited as the Recognizing Excellence in Leadership Resolution.


IDS citizen AHDuke99 of South Carolina, commonly referred to as Duke, 31st President of the Republic of Atlasia, is hereby recognized for his leadership, both to his home region of the Imperial Dominion of the South and to the Republic of Atlasia, throughout his service as both legislator and executive.

IDS citizen North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina, current Senator of the Imperial Dominion of the South, is hereby recognized for his long and continuing record of leadership to the Region as our delegate to the Atlasian Senate.

Longtime statesmen PiT and Jbrase are hereby recognized for their long times of service on multiple positions throughout their residences in the Imperial Dominion of the South.

Upon enactment of this legislation, it shall be incumbent upon Scott of North Carolina, current Emperor of the Imperial Dominion of the South, to formally commemorate the honorees at the East Room of the Imperial Mansion in Memphis, TN.
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Opinion of Inuyasha on: July 27, 2014, 01:46:41 am
One of the very few animes I would watch back when I sort of liked anime.  I know there are a few anime fans around here, so I wanted to see what you guys thought.
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: More people should watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes on: July 27, 2014, 01:40:48 am
This actually sounds like a pretty interesting series even though I don't normally watch anime anymore, but I swore an oath never to sit through movies that force me to read subtitles all the way through.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of Internal Affairs: Meat Recall Request and Food Inspection Review on: July 26, 2014, 09:42:15 pm
Whoops, I almost forgot about this.

Thank you for the funds, Mr. Secretary. Smiley
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the Selective Service System be abolished? on: July 26, 2014, 09:36:05 pm
I've always believed it should be illegal for the government to enforce compulsory military service under any circumstances, and I always will.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Office of IDS Emperor Scott on: July 26, 2014, 06:14:23 pm

Executive Order #4

I hereby appoint Duke to the Legislature.

11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If executions happen, should the guillotine be used? on: July 26, 2014, 04:16:41 pm
I think this guy had the right idea.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Implicit Association Test - Race on: July 26, 2014, 04:02:37 pm
Why weren't any Asian kids on the test?  This test is racist.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Implicit Association Test - Race on: July 26, 2014, 01:02:38 pm
Little to no preference.

That was the strangest test I've taken in my life.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: John Walsh, plagiarist? on: July 26, 2014, 12:43:47 pm
The War College punishment is having your plaque sandblasted, dunno about other stuff. Paper's 14 pages.

A Master thesis on 14 pages? Ridiculous.

Seriously.  What kind of a joke college hands out degrees for 14 pages of work?  My aunt is a Ph.D and had to write a something-hundred-page book to get her diploma.  Have standards fallen this much?
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Summarize Previous Poster's Political Beliefs on: July 26, 2014, 02:56:57 am

national syndicalism
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: July 26, 2014, 02:16:51 am
States that already have gay marriage are polled far less often and are likely to be majority in favor anyway, neglecting the obvious exceptions.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: DNC host city short list: Birmingham, Columbus, NYC, Philly, Phoenix on: July 26, 2014, 02:05:30 am
What do they hope to accomplish by having it in NYC, strategically?
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Good Post Gallery II on: July 26, 2014, 12:32:53 am
Friendly reminder:

Over the last couple months especially (though it's existed as a problem for some time), I've gained something of a reputation as an overly bitter troll of the far-left variety (as well as general attention whoring). I've cognitively understood that I'm probably not bringing much positive contribution to the forum, though by virtue of having a rather dull life outside Atlas (and more and more in Atlas Tongue) and having been in a chronically poor mood for a while now (though I've felt a bit better lately), I haven't really made an effort to improve myself as a poster.

So I'm sorry to those I've needlessly gone after or tried to get a rise out of, and to the forum in general for being something of a pretentious attention whore. Will I be fine after this? Of course not, and I still have rather radical political views (though that doesn't excuse me being a poor man's opebo about them). But hopefully with some encouragement I can improve myself and reestablish myself as a valued and veteran contributor to the US Election Atlas Forum. Smiley

Though I expect it to be thoroughly parodied and referenced until well after its expiration date like the infamous apology thread, I feel I should announce something. I'd make a big effortpost about this, but I'm rather tired and have work to do so I'll condense it to the important parts:

  • Yes, I see how my "sage" is insufferable to some. To a large extent that was the point of it, though I've long passed the point where I'm getting tired of and annoyed by my own forum persona.
  • A lowdown on my actual views: Very left-wing, though rather more nuanced than I let on. I mostly dumbed them down in a misguided effort to combat/make fun of the dominant political perspective on this forum (progressive liberalism) which I'm finding more and more annoying.
  • I won't be posting (or more likely, maybe posting once every couple days) for a while, though I fully expect to return in full force at some point. Hopefully my affected forum schtick will have mostly died by that point, though given past attempts at "reforming" I shouldn't make any absolute promises. I will most definitely continue to lurk on the forum and if my hiatus lasts long enough will probably be a zombie voter in Atlasia (and since it's barely connected to Atlas I'll probably stay in that game Lumine's doing).

I'm fully back a bit earlier than I sort of expected myself, though the few days mostly off have been a bit refreshing and gave an exercise in self-control. I know I've reneged on my "promises" before but I hope I can finally kill off the worst excesses of Sage and get on better terms with some of my old forum friends who have been understandably put off by my affected Marxist propaganda.

I'm sure this is just another one of Snowstalker's "tests," though.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Have you ever donated money to a politician, political campaign, or PAC? on: July 25, 2014, 11:51:24 pm
Not really, but I did donate to Matthew Vines last year when he was launching his "Reformation Project. "
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: Recognizing Excellence in Leadership Resolution (Debating) on: July 25, 2014, 11:47:36 pm
Self-explanatory filler bill. Tongue

Let's hear any questions or pressing concerns there might be.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which news media pundit is the preceding poster most like? on: July 25, 2014, 11:41:31 pm
Bill Maher.

You're welcome.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Hillary our future President? on: July 25, 2014, 11:39:37 pm
She will never be president. She incompetently enabled a preventable terrorist attack in Benghazi and then silenced witnesses, staged phony "investigations," and lied through her teeth to cover it up.
Is it trolling season already?

Why yes, it is an election year. Smiley
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Man Accidentally Killed by Police Choke Hold in Staten Island on: July 25, 2014, 11:34:20 pm
Do the people who are defending these guys realize that there was no evidence Garner was even selling untaxed cigs at all?
He'd been arrested for that very thing (I think) 3 times before.
The fact that they choked an obese man to death is because he resisted arrest
(while also implying that his death was somehow his fault because of his bad physical condition) is bad enough, but they was zero proof that he had even done anything wrong. WTF kind of country do we live in when someone can be forced onto the ground and butchered like an animal for protesting being arrested for a crime there is no evidence of them even committing?
"butchered"?  really?

No, there is no evidence (other than being a repeat offender of the crime he was accused of) he was guilty (there is no evidence he's innocent either, but that's not as important), but there is 100% evidence he resisted.  His resisting is what lead to his death.  I'm sure he didn't know his resistance was going to lead to him having a heart attack, I'm also sure the cop didn't think his choke hold was going to lead to a dead dude.  As I said in my original post on the matter, 3 things lead to this guy's death:
A.he resisted
2.cops acting poorly
III.dumb law

That's not much different from how a rapist defends his crime ("She had it coming, Your Honor!!").  But regardless,  what point are you trying to make here?  Either the cops take full responsibility for the man's death and face the consequences, or they receive no penalty at all.
24  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do you support the legalization of marijuana? on: July 25, 2014, 10:34:17 pm
What I was getting at is that it is exceedingly irritating to see "libertarians" act like they are hold the keys to every single solution posed by society's ills when, in fact, all of their positions fall entirely outside of the political mainstream - marijuana included. 

How does marijuana legalization fall outside of the "mainstream?"
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should Supreme Courts votes be made public? on: July 25, 2014, 10:24:59 pm
What do you mean by 'votes'? All members are constitutionally required to dissent or concur publicly in a case, so the public should be well aware of how each Justice voted.

The other justices seldom post in case threads.

Right, because all that's required is that they formally post where they concur or dissent. The ultimate opinion is the product of discussion between the Justices.

What are you proposing here, specifcally?

Okay, fair enough.  If memory serves, all three justices were very publicly engaged with the casea.  I believe that may have been the case with Tweed's suit two years ago.  But, as long as the justices are doing what is required of them, I suppose it's sufficient.
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