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5576  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Interesting PRRI survey numbers on religious left/religious right on: September 16, 2013, 12:45:24 pm
I fail to see why that's good news, but whatevs brah.

Have fun being surrounded by religious progs. Grin
5577  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Interesting PRRI survey numbers on religious left/religious right on: September 16, 2013, 12:20:27 pm
Do Americans Believe Capitalism and Government are Working?: Religious Left, Religious Right and the Future of the Economic Debate
Religious left/right/moderate statistics are on the latter half of the page.

Some highlights:
  • A newly developed religious orientation scale that combines theological, economic and social outlooks finds that 28% of Americans are religious conservatives, 38% are religious moderates, and 19% of Americans are religious progressives; additionally, 15% of Americans are nonreligious.
  • Religious progressives constitute nearly twice the proportion of Millennials (23%), compared to the Silent Generation (12%). Among Millennials, there are also roughly as many nonreligious (22%) as religious progressives.
  • Catholics (29%) constitute the largest single group among religious progressives, followed by white mainline Protestants (19%), those who are not formally affiliated with a religious tradition but who nevertheless say religion is at least somewhat important in their lives (18%), and non-Christian religious Americans such as Jews, Buddhist, Hindus, and Muslims (13%).
  • Nearly 8-in-10 (79%) religious progressives say being a religious person is mostly about doing the right thing, compared to 16% who say it is about holding the right beliefs. By contrast, a majority (54%) of religious conservatives say being a religious person is primarily about having the right beliefs, while less than 4-in-10 (38%) say it is mostly about doing the right thing.

A lot of it is stuff we already know, but it's good to have a thorough overview of where America is and where it is headed religiously.
5578  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: "Are atheists mentally ill?" on: September 16, 2013, 12:03:50 pm
Afleitch, first of all, it has never been my intention to prove that someone is "wrong" on the issue of God's existence.  As I've stated before, being "right" is a very slender part of my philosophy, and I think that if there is a God, He or She shows compassion toward those who who had wrong belief or no belief.  I can only speak for myself on that, of course.

That being said, I don't see how having belief in God vs. not having belief in God is the same as being left-handed or right-handed.  Being right-handed is not a position one can take.  You cannot rationally defend your being right-handed, unlike your belief in God or non-belief in God.
5579  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hectic night on: September 16, 2013, 11:29:18 am
I hope things get better, Bryan.  You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.
5580  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking - four dead in mass shooting at Navy Yard in DC on: September 16, 2013, 11:21:02 am
My prayers are with the victims.
5581  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The Onion produces a fake Subway 9/11 coupon, Subway accepts it anyway on: September 15, 2013, 11:49:03 pm
>Like everyone, we are deeply offended by the fake story and ad created by The Onion.

Bullsht.  You were laughing yourselves to Hell like everyone else was.

Getting the coupon accepted was an inside job, tho.  I hope the prankster is looking for a new job, not because of his offbeat sense of humor.  I actually applaud that considering that as a country we do overdramatize September 11.  But, defrauding one's employer for the sake a joke is not something that should be encouraged or accepted.

Heh.
5582  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would the previous politician have voted for Obama had he/she been alive? on: September 15, 2013, 09:33:36 pm
I think so.

Huey Long
5583  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 15, 2013, 08:28:30 pm
The Democrats should raise the minimum wage and then index it to inflation. Of course they won't because they want a campaign issue. Roll Eyes

Eh, not necessarily.  If that were the case, then the Democrats probably wouldn't push so hard for gay marriage in their states.  The problem is most likely that there are too many Democratic legislators who feel uneasy about indexing the minimum wage to inflation.  Besides, right now would be an especially bad time to push for a federal policy since they can't even get the Tea Party House to support a modest increase.
5584  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Poll: Nearly half of likely Michigan voters favor legalizing, taxing pot on: September 15, 2013, 08:20:09 pm
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In the poll of 600 likely voters, 47% said they favor legalizing marijuana by taxing and regulating it like alcohol. Twenty-six percent said they favor continuing the system of state criminal penalties for marijuana offenses.

In addition, 16% said they would favor replacing criminal penalties for marijuana offenses with a fine, and 4% said they would like to see all state criminal penalties for marijuana offenses repealed. Seven percent were undecided or refused to answer.

The poll was commission by Michigan NORML, the state’s chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.
Detroit Free Press

It's a NORML poll, of course, so you kind of have to take it with a grain of salt.  Still, if Louisiana voters support pot legalization, I wouldn't be at all surprised if their numbers were accurate.
5585  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would the previous politician have voted for Obama had he/she been alive? on: September 15, 2013, 07:38:47 pm
Probably not.

J. William Fulbright
5586  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: September 15, 2013, 07:35:21 pm
Social Market and Welfare State Supporter (100%)          
Progressive (70%)          
Socialist (60%)          
Chicago School Fiscal Conservative (50%)          
Progressive Neolibertarian (50%)          
Libertarian (20%)          
Austrian School Fiscal Conservative (10%)          
Traditional Conservative (10%)          
Neoconservative (0%)          
Neolibertarian (0%)   
5587  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Cory Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts III on: September 15, 2013, 07:14:52 pm
Of course, most of WalterMitty's posts belong here, but this one in particular stands out:

Voted for the option that considered George W. Bush to be a good president.

bush was pretty liberal.
5588  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: President Forever results thread... on: September 15, 2013, 06:15:09 pm
5589  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Taking a break on: September 15, 2013, 04:27:46 pm
Sad to hear, but, I understand that a little break can be good for everybody.  Enjoy your time off! Smiley
5590  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would Right Wing Forumites be Happier... on: September 15, 2013, 04:21:54 pm
I thought affirmative action was illegal!
5591  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Give the previous poster an image on: September 15, 2013, 11:25:09 am
5592  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: President Forever results thread... on: September 15, 2013, 01:14:07 am
Played it again, this time with the primary.  I thought Parker was certain to get the nomination thanks to his ten-point lead in the polls, but a series of concessions and horse-trading at the convention allowed me to clinch victory.  This time, I had a huge advantage over Perry from the start, who had come out of a fairly easy, yet brutal, Republican primary.

5593  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of James Traficant? on: September 15, 2013, 12:12:27 am
I just want to further my support of Jim Trafficant. We call him Jim here. Bush should've pardoned him after he got re-elected.

lol ok i can he's on my cell!  jimmy and i are besties! xD
5594  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: challenge to mapmakers: draw the most NIMBY congressional district on: September 14, 2013, 10:51:34 pm


Southeast Texas

47% White
23% Black
25% Hispanic
2% Asian

51.6-48.4 McCain
5595  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 14, 2013, 09:16:45 pm
Barfbag, most small businesses pay more than minimum wage.  You didn't actually respond to me or the article, you're just spewing talking points and making baseless assumptions.

No I'm not. In fact you just made my point even more. If I already pay more than minimum wage, what would I care about it being increased? You didn't even respond to my response where I said that no one is going to publicly oppose an increase in minimum wage outside of a political debate on its effects of the economy.

That's the whole point.  You wouldn't be impacted by a minimum wage increase if you're already paying more than that.  You can't say these small businesses would be hurt by an increase if they can already afford to pay more than the current minimum wage.  Plus, if these businesses were concerned about having to raise prices or layoff workers, they probably wouldn't be overwhelmingly in favor of the increase.

If your only real argument is "no one would publicly oppose a minimum wage increase," I feel fairly confident in my position.  You are basing that opinion on assumptions and not facts.
5596  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 14, 2013, 08:53:20 pm
Barfbag, most small businesses pay more than minimum wage.  You didn't actually respond to me or the article, you're just spewing talking points and making baseless assumptions.
5597  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 14, 2013, 08:38:38 pm
$10 isn't very much money in CA, but it's a great way to scare away companies into moving to Texas. The same thing is going on at the federal level. I can't blame companies for going overseas. What we need to do is eliminate the corporate tax and place tariffs on goods from companies who move overseas. No corporate taxes will bring jobs back from overseas. All we're doing in places like CA is scaring them away. All they'll do is raise prices in order to get back to where they were and then we're right back to where we started.

Yeah, McDonald's is packing their bags as we speak.

What you just said was stupid. In fact stupid isn't a good enough word to describe your post. Anyone who understands business knows that the wage laws don't apply to McDonald's because they're in a league of their own. They're so successful that they could afford to pay higher wages. However, mom and pop stores who have a handful of workers will suffer and go out of business. Walmart and McDonald's will still be winners. Do you like monopolies? I don't and neither do a lot of other people. However, if you like monopolies so much, then perhaps a $10 an hour minimum wage is just what's needed. Why did you even make a joke about McDonald's. I'm sure with the intellect of this forum, most posters will be able to figure out there is no comparison between McDonald's and Uncle Bob's Diner. Oh wait I get it now. You probably set me up to tear you down so that you could provide a greater comeback. Man I fell for it didn't I? At least that's what I'm hoping.

Most of those mom-and-pop stores don't seem to have a problem with it.
5598  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 14, 2013, 08:21:17 pm
GENERAL POLLING - JERRY BROWN TOP 5 STATES

California
Jerry Brown (I): 45%
Democratic nominee: 27%
David Duke (R): 18%
Undecided: 10%

Nevada
Jerry Brown (I): 37%
Democratic nominee: 30%
David Duke (R): 21%
Undecided: 12%

Maine
Jerry Brown (I): 42%
Democratic nominee: 35%
David Duke (R): 12%
Undecided: 11%

Wyoming
Jerry Brown (I): 36%
David Duke (R): 35%
Democratic nominee: 20%
Undecided: 9%

Montana
Democratic nominee: 33%
David Duke (R): 32%
Jerry Brown (I): 28%
Undecided: 7%
5599  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 14, 2013, 08:10:13 pm
Round 22: April 3 - April 7, 1992 (Kansas primaries, Minnesota primary (Republicans only), New York primaries, Wisconsin primaries)
5600  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 14, 2013, 08:06:49 pm

Joe Biden Wins Alaska Democratic Caucuses

Joe Biden: 45.04% - 12 delegates
Al Gore: 26.87% - 7 delegates
Bob Kerrey: 24.99% - 7 delegates
Undecided/Uncommitted: 3.1% - 1 delegate


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