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5576  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: My new way of going about things: the positives of atheism. on: September 17, 2013, 12:02:53 am
It's kind of funny, because I started to feel almost the exact same way around this time last year when I discovered my approach to Christianity.  Before then, religion hadn't played much of a role in my life at all because I thought I was forced to have a faith that could never align with what I perceive to be logical, sensible, or beautiful.  Atheism was never something I seriously entertained, but neither was what was probably the majority of things I had known about Christianity back then.  I felt like there were no other options, so I identified as Christian by name but never really engaged myself with my beliefs or let them influence me creatively and intellectually.  Now here we are today: applying to a church-affiliated university so I can be ordained to preach the Good News at my own church one day.

Sorry for going on a personal tangent there, but that's how it all went down for me.  Ultimately, my point is that although religion requires us to observe things logically and sometimes defend our prepositions rationally, it gives everyone a unique sense of identity.  We identify ourselves with religion or non-religion because of the way it identifies with us.  It gives us our own set of lens through which we see the world and interpret its underlying meaning.  And at the end of the day, even if we are wrong we can feel that sense of accomplishment for having interacted with reality, or otherwise what we perceive as reality, with a fresh and imaginative approach.

Of course, I believe there are right and wrong ways to make religion work, but determining our own paths in this life can be a very rewarding experience, whether one is a believer or a non-believer.

(Sorry if this doesn't answer your question, HockeyDude.  I just felt that needed to be shared. Tongue)
5577  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How are the previous person's views similar/different from yours? on: September 16, 2013, 11:34:46 pm
We seem to agree on most issues with the exception of climate change, which I'll admit I'm no where as versed in even though our opinions differ.
5578  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama won't negotiate with Congress on debt ceiling on: September 16, 2013, 11:22:06 pm
I get why he wouldn't want to engage, but it sure would be nice to see him actually try to seriously negotiate something of promise. You know, on anything.

I refuse to believe that House Republicans today are harder to deal with than they were under Newt Gingrich.

The Republicans weren't controlled (or at least, weren't as controlled) by an ideology-driven subgroup in the 90s.  Nowadays, primary challenges are more of a lingering concern for Republican legislators who try to reach across the aisle even a little bit, thereby discouraging much bipartisanship at all.  And, as long as the Republican position is "repeal healthcare reform even though it's your signature accomplishment and we lost the election by a clear margin last year," Obama shouldn't have to bend over backwards for them.  Not on that.

Until they get over the fact that Obamacare is not going to be repealed (which they won't for fear of losing their seats next election), this is the way things will be, unfortunately.  And if Pete Sessions has reason to worry about a primary defeat, so does everyone else in the GOP.
5579  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Regional Consolidation: Where to draw the lines? on: September 16, 2013, 11:00:51 pm
The current map is fine. While many of the four region maps are tolerable the three region maps are absolutely horrid. As it is I oppose any idea of regional consolidation due to its irreparable harm towards the Mideast region.

I agree that is the biggest shortcoming of a "three region" plan. Given its central location, the Mideast would essentially be forced to be split between all three regions.

Sounds like a gang rape, when you think about it.
5580  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Use a City to Describe the Previous Persons Ideology on: September 16, 2013, 10:44:10 pm
Las Vegas.
5581  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: How would you have ruled in the preceding case? on: September 16, 2013, 10:34:52 pm
With the majority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berger_v._New_York
5582  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of runner's highs? on: September 16, 2013, 10:07:08 pm
A large part of running, relating to the high, is the struggle. To compete in a distance race, one must strive with sheer will against all his body's signals telling him to stop, to quit, to lay down by side of the road, to capitulate to the comforts of this life. To keep going is something akin to keeping the faith in a world that pulls you otherwise. The high then corresponds to having finished the race and being able to sit back with a feeling of pride or even relief by your accomplishments or shame at your failure. And much like life, you have never reached the top even if you win. You can always do better unless you collapse in the chute. You can never really be satisfied; to remain a runner means to acknowledge some smoldering fire within biding its time until the next time a bundle of logs thrown on to transform it once more into a fiery blaze to rise up and put it all out on the course once more.

That's deep.
5583  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Regional Consolidation: Where to draw the lines? on: September 16, 2013, 09:51:07 pm
Keep in mind that people are likely to change states no matter what the new map looks like, so population shouldn't be of huge concern.
5584  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of runner's highs? on: September 16, 2013, 09:42:31 pm
I cramp easily when I run, and when I do, I hurt everywhere. Even after I warm up!  So, running's not for me.  I usually walk or bike.
5585  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Regional Consolidation: Where to draw the lines? on: September 16, 2013, 09:37:34 pm
Four regions:


Three regions:
5586  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama won't negotiate with Congress on debt ceiling on: September 16, 2013, 08:53:42 pm
How wonderful it is to have a president who negotiates with foreign dictators, but not Americans who love this country dearly.

Comments like that is why most of the blue avatars here don't even take you seriously.  Half the time you probably don't even take yourself seriously as you write these things.

I state a fact. Obama bowed to a foreign dictator a few years ago, but according to your thread he isn't going to negotiate with Republicans on the debt ceiling. You posted this not me.

Richard Nixon bowed to Chairman Mao.  Does that mean he endorsed Communist policies?  No.
5587  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama won't negotiate with Congress on debt ceiling on: September 16, 2013, 08:48:44 pm
How wonderful it is to have a president who negotiates with foreign dictators, but not Americans who love this country dearly.

Comments like that is why most of the blue avatars here don't even take you seriously.  Half the time you probably don't even take yourself seriously as you write these things.
5588  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Cory Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts III on: September 16, 2013, 08:47:18 pm
How wonderful it is to have a president who negotiates with foreign dictators, but not Americans who love this country dearly.
5589  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: What demographic would the preceding poster do best with? on: September 16, 2013, 08:41:33 pm
Mormon Democrats, though I know you've said you aren't a Mormon before.  If not, I think you would do well with western libertarianish Democrats.
5590  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Interesting PRRI survey numbers on religious left/religious right on: September 16, 2013, 08:34:17 pm
I posted another survey dealing with this, yes.  This one is just more detailed and has some interesting factoids.  I personally didn't expect that there would be so many American Catholics self-identifying as 'progressive.'

Why not? At least according to most surveys that I've seen in the recent past, Catholics have been roughly on par with or slightly to the left of America as a whole for a while now. (In the more distant past they were obviously a strongly partisan Democratic group but not really a strongly ideological 'progressive' or 'liberal' one in the sense that more recent surveys usually purport to measure.)

I don't deny that a significant number of American Catholics differ with official church teachings, I'm just a tad surprised that mainline Protestants don't outnumber them, what with the increasing number of Protestant churches adopting moderate-to-liberal political stances.

To be fair, though, this article isn't specific about what churches these mainline Protestants are affiliated with, so I suppose that has to be considered as well.

Mainlines as defined in the media can be a pretty broad range. Let's not forget that UMC member George W. Bush could be considered a mainline Protestant.

Fair enough, although Bush has considered himself an evangelical Christian for most of his life, I believe.
5591  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Use a City to Describe the Previous Persons Ideology on: September 16, 2013, 08:28:58 pm
Hatman: How about NYC?

Progressive Realist: Madison, WI
5592  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: 2013 Post-a-Picture-of-Yourself Thread on: September 16, 2013, 08:26:16 pm
Did you join some 'bearded ninja' fraternity, Cathcon?
5593  Forum Community / Interactive Timelines / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 16, 2013, 08:18:35 pm
Virginia (Democrats)
Al Gore: 39%
Joe Biden: 37%
Bob Kerrey: 19%
Undecided/Uncommitted: 5%

Pennsylvania (Democrats)
Joe Biden: 44%
Al Gore: 33%
Bob Kerrey: 15%
Undecided/Uncommitted: 8%
5594  Forum Community / Interactive Timelines / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 16, 2013, 08:14:09 pm
Round 23: April 4 - April 13, 1992 (Virginia Democratic caucuses)
5595  Forum Community / Interactive Timelines / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 16, 2013, 08:12:21 pm
How did Biden win New York? Gore was up by 5 and spent more time there than him.

Biden benefited from a Kerrey collapse.
5596  Forum Community / Interactive Timelines / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 16, 2013, 08:08:06 pm

Joe Biden Wins New York Democratic Primary

Joe Biden: 38.54% - 37 delegates
Al Gore: 38.18% - 36 delegates
Bob Kerrey: 15.36% - 15 delegates
Uncommitted: 7.92% - 7 delegates



Al Gore Wins Wisconsin Democratic Primary

Al Gore: 39.30% - 17 delegates
Joe Biden: 35.71% - 15 delegates
Bob Kerrey: 19.56% - 8 delegates
Uncommitted: 5.43% - 2 delegates



Bob Kerrey Wins Kansas Democratic Primary

Bob Kerrey: 48.18% - 19 delegates
Al Gore: 27.59% - 11 delegates
Joe Biden: 22.47% - 9 delegates
Uncommitted: 1.76% - 1 delegate


5597  Forum Community / Interactive Timelines / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 16, 2013, 07:28:17 pm

David Duke Wins North Dakota Republican Convention

David Duke: 77.62% - 23 delegates
Uncommitted: 22.48% - 5 delegates



David Duke Wins New York Republican Primary

David Duke: 72.33% - 69 delegates
Uncommitted: 27.67% - 6 delegates



David Duke Wins Wisconsin Republican Primary

David Duke: 74.95% - 31 delegates
Uncommitted: 25.05% - 11 delegates



David Duke Wins Minnesota Republican Primary

David Duke: 75.21% - 30 delegates
Uncommitted: 24.79% - 10 delegates



David Duke Wins Kansas Republican Primary

David Duke: 86.72% - 35 delegates
Uncommitted: 13.28% - 5 delegates


5598  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: What's your Abortion Policy? on: September 16, 2013, 07:09:45 pm
Pro-choice.  I like bedstuy's approach to late-term abortions.
5599  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Obama won't negotiate with Congress on debt ceiling on: September 16, 2013, 07:06:38 pm
Quote
Obama said "the last time the same crew threatened this course of action," the mere talk of a debt default sent the stock market into a months-long tailspin and slowed U.S. economic growth.

"I will not negotiate over whether or not America keeps its word and meets its obligations. I will not negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States," he said.

"This country has worked too hard for too long to dig out of a crisis just to see their elected representatives here in Washington purposely cause another crisis," he said.

A Republican plan aimed at averting a government shutdown on October 1 ran into a wall of opposition last week from conservatives in the House, and leaders delayed votes on it until this week.
Reuters

Finally he learns...
5600  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: CNN-National: Hillary dominates, Christie/Ryan tied on: September 16, 2013, 05:59:52 pm
I'm a bit surprised they didn't include Peter King, since he's openly considering a run.
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