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5576  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The Onion produces a fake Subway 9/11 coupon, Subway accepts it anyway on: September 15, 2013, 11:49:03 pm
>Like everyone, we are deeply offended by the fake story and ad created by The Onion.

Bullsht.  You were laughing yourselves to Hell like everyone else was.

Getting the coupon accepted was an inside job, tho.  I hope the prankster is looking for a new job, not because of his offbeat sense of humor.  I actually applaud that considering that as a country we do overdramatize September 11.  But, defrauding one's employer for the sake a joke is not something that should be encouraged or accepted.

Heh.
5577  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would the previous politician have voted for Obama had he/she been alive? on: September 15, 2013, 09:33:36 pm
I think so.

Huey Long
5578  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 15, 2013, 08:28:30 pm
The Democrats should raise the minimum wage and then index it to inflation. Of course they won't because they want a campaign issue. Roll Eyes

Eh, not necessarily.  If that were the case, then the Democrats probably wouldn't push so hard for gay marriage in their states.  The problem is most likely that there are too many Democratic legislators who feel uneasy about indexing the minimum wage to inflation.  Besides, right now would be an especially bad time to push for a federal policy since they can't even get the Tea Party House to support a modest increase.
5579  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Poll: Nearly half of likely Michigan voters favor legalizing, taxing pot on: September 15, 2013, 08:20:09 pm
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In the poll of 600 likely voters, 47% said they favor legalizing marijuana by taxing and regulating it like alcohol. Twenty-six percent said they favor continuing the system of state criminal penalties for marijuana offenses.

In addition, 16% said they would favor replacing criminal penalties for marijuana offenses with a fine, and 4% said they would like to see all state criminal penalties for marijuana offenses repealed. Seven percent were undecided or refused to answer.

The poll was commission by Michigan NORML, the state’s chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.
Detroit Free Press

It's a NORML poll, of course, so you kind of have to take it with a grain of salt.  Still, if Louisiana voters support pot legalization, I wouldn't be at all surprised if their numbers were accurate.
5580  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would the previous politician have voted for Obama had he/she been alive? on: September 15, 2013, 07:38:47 pm
Probably not.

J. William Fulbright
5581  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: September 15, 2013, 07:35:21 pm
Social Market and Welfare State Supporter (100%)          
Progressive (70%)          
Socialist (60%)          
Chicago School Fiscal Conservative (50%)          
Progressive Neolibertarian (50%)          
Libertarian (20%)          
Austrian School Fiscal Conservative (10%)          
Traditional Conservative (10%)          
Neoconservative (0%)          
Neolibertarian (0%)   
5582  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Cory Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts III on: September 15, 2013, 07:14:52 pm
Of course, most of WalterMitty's posts belong here, but this one in particular stands out:

Voted for the option that considered George W. Bush to be a good president.

bush was pretty liberal.
5583  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: President Forever results thread... on: September 15, 2013, 06:15:09 pm
5584  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Taking a break on: September 15, 2013, 04:27:46 pm
Sad to hear, but, I understand that a little break can be good for everybody.  Enjoy your time off! Smiley
5585  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would Right Wing Forumites be Happier... on: September 15, 2013, 04:21:54 pm
I thought affirmative action was illegal!
5586  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Give the previous poster an image on: September 15, 2013, 11:25:09 am
5587  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: President Forever results thread... on: September 15, 2013, 01:14:07 am
Played it again, this time with the primary.  I thought Parker was certain to get the nomination thanks to his ten-point lead in the polls, but a series of concessions and horse-trading at the convention allowed me to clinch victory.  This time, I had a huge advantage over Perry from the start, who had come out of a fairly easy, yet brutal, Republican primary.

5588  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of James Traficant? on: September 15, 2013, 12:12:27 am
I just want to further my support of Jim Trafficant. We call him Jim here. Bush should've pardoned him after he got re-elected.

lol ok i can he's on my cell!  jimmy and i are besties! xD
5589  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: challenge to mapmakers: draw the most NIMBY congressional district on: September 14, 2013, 10:51:34 pm


Southeast Texas

47% White
23% Black
25% Hispanic
2% Asian

51.6-48.4 McCain
5590  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 14, 2013, 09:16:45 pm
Barfbag, most small businesses pay more than minimum wage.  You didn't actually respond to me or the article, you're just spewing talking points and making baseless assumptions.

No I'm not. In fact you just made my point even more. If I already pay more than minimum wage, what would I care about it being increased? You didn't even respond to my response where I said that no one is going to publicly oppose an increase in minimum wage outside of a political debate on its effects of the economy.

That's the whole point.  You wouldn't be impacted by a minimum wage increase if you're already paying more than that.  You can't say these small businesses would be hurt by an increase if they can already afford to pay more than the current minimum wage.  Plus, if these businesses were concerned about having to raise prices or layoff workers, they probably wouldn't be overwhelmingly in favor of the increase.

If your only real argument is "no one would publicly oppose a minimum wage increase," I feel fairly confident in my position.  You are basing that opinion on assumptions and not facts.
5591  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 14, 2013, 08:53:20 pm
Barfbag, most small businesses pay more than minimum wage.  You didn't actually respond to me or the article, you're just spewing talking points and making baseless assumptions.
5592  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California set to raise minimum wage to $10 on: September 14, 2013, 08:38:38 pm
$10 isn't very much money in CA, but it's a great way to scare away companies into moving to Texas. The same thing is going on at the federal level. I can't blame companies for going overseas. What we need to do is eliminate the corporate tax and place tariffs on goods from companies who move overseas. No corporate taxes will bring jobs back from overseas. All we're doing in places like CA is scaring them away. All they'll do is raise prices in order to get back to where they were and then we're right back to where we started.

Yeah, McDonald's is packing their bags as we speak.

What you just said was stupid. In fact stupid isn't a good enough word to describe your post. Anyone who understands business knows that the wage laws don't apply to McDonald's because they're in a league of their own. They're so successful that they could afford to pay higher wages. However, mom and pop stores who have a handful of workers will suffer and go out of business. Walmart and McDonald's will still be winners. Do you like monopolies? I don't and neither do a lot of other people. However, if you like monopolies so much, then perhaps a $10 an hour minimum wage is just what's needed. Why did you even make a joke about McDonald's. I'm sure with the intellect of this forum, most posters will be able to figure out there is no comparison between McDonald's and Uncle Bob's Diner. Oh wait I get it now. You probably set me up to tear you down so that you could provide a greater comeback. Man I fell for it didn't I? At least that's what I'm hoping.

Most of those mom-and-pop stores don't seem to have a problem with it.
5593  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 14, 2013, 08:21:17 pm
GENERAL POLLING - JERRY BROWN TOP 5 STATES

California
Jerry Brown (I): 45%
Democratic nominee: 27%
David Duke (R): 18%
Undecided: 10%

Nevada
Jerry Brown (I): 37%
Democratic nominee: 30%
David Duke (R): 21%
Undecided: 12%

Maine
Jerry Brown (I): 42%
Democratic nominee: 35%
David Duke (R): 12%
Undecided: 11%

Wyoming
Jerry Brown (I): 36%
David Duke (R): 35%
Democratic nominee: 20%
Undecided: 9%

Montana
Democratic nominee: 33%
David Duke (R): 32%
Jerry Brown (I): 28%
Undecided: 7%
5594  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 14, 2013, 08:10:13 pm
Round 22: April 3 - April 7, 1992 (Kansas primaries, Minnesota primary (Republicans only), New York primaries, Wisconsin primaries)
5595  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The '92 Vote: An Interactive Timeline [Gameplay] on: September 14, 2013, 08:06:49 pm

Joe Biden Wins Alaska Democratic Caucuses

Joe Biden: 45.04% - 12 delegates
Al Gore: 26.87% - 7 delegates
Bob Kerrey: 24.99% - 7 delegates
Undecided/Uncommitted: 3.1% - 1 delegate


5596  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Spamage for President HQ: Together we'll win (BIG NEWS COMING) on: September 14, 2013, 07:59:36 pm
Interesting choice.



This picture is making me laugh more than it should.
5597  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: September 14, 2013, 07:48:40 pm
Neoliberal
Emphasis on cooperation, consensus, free trade; cooperative, democratic states are more advantageous than rogue autocracies. To secure our own borders, we should make sure other countries are democratic, free-trading, and participate in international organizations: a much more pragmatic version of Liberal. Clinton, Fukuyama, Marshall. (100%)          

Radical
Emphasis on social justice, cooperation, democracy; the best states are peaceful and democratic, as well as moderately egalitarian. We must stop attacking countries for oil and focus on larger threats; beating up little countries that never hurt anyone is a grave threat to spreading democracy. Basically Neoliberal with a dash of Marxist. Dean, Gore. (90%)          

Liberal
Emphasis on freedom, markets, democracy; free democratic states are good and fair, but autocratic states are immoral. We must push for democratization and liberalization around the world using open trade and international organizations: all people should be free. Wilson, Reagan, Kant, Shultz. (80%)          

Libertarian
Emphasis on defense, small government, vital interests; states by and large don't attack you if you don't attack them. Governments should have little or no relations with each other as open commerce and mutual respect can maintain peace in most (or all) situations, only attack them when they attack us. Badnarik, Rothbard. (80%)          

Pacifist
Emphasis on violence, injustice, war; states spread war, disease and famine. We must encourage an end to all violence, dismantling of al nuclear stockpiles, and eliminate the causes of division, conflict and violence, perhaps including capitalism or business. Thoreau, Tolstoy. (80%)          

Neoconservative
Emphasis on civilizations, democracy, strength; states act through civilizational and cultural means for their own advancement. We must spread democratic institutions and markets to other countries, but also include a very strong military establishment, democracy is a tool of diplomacy and war, ultimately democracies will side with us and we must side with them, although some of our allies may be non-democratic. Bush-43, Kristol, Wolfowitz. (50%)          

Marxist
Emphasis on socialism, exploitation, racism; capitalist countries are either false democracies or outright fascist states, socialist countries are more just (or at least less dangerous). Capitalism and racism are evil institutions spreading Western hegemony and propping up decadent empires, either historical processes or street protests (perhaps revolutions) will bring about more humane world. Trotsky, Molotov, Marx! (40%)          

Nationalist
Emphasis on self-determination, ethnicity, bigotry; large states oppress and slaughter ethnic/national minorities. We, as an aspiring country, must use any means necessary to (re)establish our homeland, even as racists and imperialists. Though normally a broader group, this variant is the violent nationalist, sometimes (but not always!) creeping into terrorism. Arafat, Ceku, Adams. (10%)          

Neorealist
Emphasis on power, certainty, stability; states wish to be at peace but the world is unstable and uncertain, so they have to prepare for war to avoid destruction. We must be strong where it is warranted, but military reductions are the default, and arms control agreements can secure some stability. Bush-41, Waltz, Rice. (0%)          

Realist
Emphasis on power, strength, realpolitik; all states are aggressive and warlike and any chance to improve relative strength will be seized. We must judge our interests and do whatever is necessary to advance them, lest our country be destroyed. Nixon, Morgenthau, Kissinger! (0%)   
5598  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you listening to right now? II on: September 14, 2013, 07:41:52 pm
Lady Antebellum - Our Kind of Love
5599  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: President Forever results thread... on: September 14, 2013, 05:32:05 pm
I started looking around for different scenarios, and I came upon a blog that has plenty of them: mayoral, senatorial, gubernatorial... pretty much everything.  So I downloaded a Texas 2014 gubernatorial scenario.  I played on easy mode without the primary, and I led Perry throughout most of the game.  Somehow, Perry "won" because he had more "electoral votes" than me.  Don't know how the hell that works, but I ended up winning the popular vote at the end.

5600  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: President Forever results thread... on: September 14, 2013, 04:40:46 pm
Yeah, he is, but I thought winning as Bachmann would be difficult on its own. Tongue
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