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1  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Do we have souls? on: July 22, 2015, 12:39:08 pm
I can't answer the question, but I am interested to know when a soul's "life" begins.
If "life" begins at conception, meaning that that is when the soul is born, what does that
mean about a "human" in the earliest stage of life, namely when the fertilized egg splits
in two "identical" twins? Does that mean it's "soul" splits into two souls?

Sam Harris asked this question. I had never thought about that before.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In hindsight on: July 02, 2015, 01:54:53 pm
By the way, I don't think it is a good idea for Congress to give the POTUS a blank check to go to war; so yes, at the time of her original vote she made a serious mistake.
We should not go to war without a declarlation of war from Congress.
If this is ever going to be the case in the future we will go to war less.
Of course, I don't even buy the 'just war theory' in the first place.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In hindsight on: July 02, 2015, 01:44:11 pm
Will you at least admit that the premise by which you started this thread is incorrect?
Yes. I didn't realize that she said that her vote was a mistake. It did take her a
long time to do this and I wonder how political it was.

I certainly am glad that she has changed her position however political it may have been.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bold predictions. on: July 02, 2015, 01:38:58 pm
Clinton will get less than 50% of the vote in the New Hampshire primary.
I don't know if that is very bold, but given the conventional wisdom it might
be considered somewhat unlikely by many.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In hindsight on: July 02, 2015, 01:36:30 pm
So why exactly are so many Democrats so excited about Clinton?
I've always believed that a lot of it had to do with the fact that we
have never had a female POTUS.
A lot of it has to with the problem that there isn't a lot of competition.
A lot can happen in the next sixth months, but right now Sanders seems
to be the candidate most likely to defeat her.
I wouldn't rule him out yet. Many people thought that she would beat Obama
in 2008. During the campaign many things could bring her down.
She may very well be our next president. True.
But her election in 495 days is still far from a certainty.
Whether Sanders would do well, were he to get the nomination, remains to be seen.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How should Hillary respond to the Bernie challenge? on: July 02, 2015, 12:53:38 pm
Is Sander's age an issue? Reagan was 69 in 1980 and 74 in 1984 and lived to be 93.
Admittedly it could be an issue, but it didn't hurt Reagan, not much. Moreover, many people thought that Reagan was too conservative to be electable. Likewise arguing that Sanders is too liberal may end up being a mistake. I am not aware of any polls that show how he would do in the general election. Are there any?
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How should Hillary respond to the Bernie challenge? on: July 02, 2015, 12:46:50 pm
I voted other.

I do think that Sanders could win in New Hampshire. If he does, that could help him in other states. Whether he wins New Hampshire depends obviously on Iowa.

Clinton could do what Reagan did in 1976 and announce her VP choice early, albeit an unlikely gambit.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / In hindsight on: July 01, 2015, 02:04:49 pm
I hope she addresses this issue. I don't believe that she has ever said that her vote was a mistake. She can be forgiven for making a mistake, but she should admit her mistake.

Of course, I vote yes.
9  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Why so little attention to the capital punishment decision? on: July 01, 2015, 02:02:09 pm
Thank you for your reply True Federalist. Although I agree with the minority justices on the ruling, I also think that regardless of whether the majority were right or not on the issue of what the Constitutional issues were, the bigger question is a moral one. The Constitution does not specifically say whether capital punishment itself is moral or not. I have sympathy with the principle that the Supreme Court's job is to determine what the Constitution actually says rather than imposing their own views on what is just and unjust, that is more for the voters to decide.

As for the issue at hand, whether lethal injection is the best way to kill someone, my point is that there is no reason to make a person suffer at all. Losing one's life is punishment enough. I also think that life in prisonment would be a just punishment for premeditated murder as well.
So in conlclusion, my point is that if capital punishment is to occur at all it should be as painless as possible. Any other view, it seems to me, is just plain sadistic. Making someone suffer needlessly is revenge and that is not logical. No debate or argument that embraces an emotional appeal is a valid argument. Revenge is pure emotion and a bad emotion at that.
10  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Why so little attention to the capital punishment decision? on: June 30, 2015, 07:16:54 pm

To the question pinned at the top, I'm aware of it,

Re: Why so little attention to the capital punishment decision?

 With Obamas' JV team ISIS burying families alive, beheadings and burning everybody else, SCOTUS found it to be not cruel to give evil its due with sleeping drugs for that eternal placement in hell.

Give it some time, firing squads will return as the most practical option. Nothing really to get all jazzed about unless your a cold blooded murder, the leftist delivering hate.

This SCOTUS decision does nothing to retrieve itself from its breach of order, they're to far into the abyss of present day political fallacies.  

So, is it ok to ignore the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment? What about those who are convicted of murder who are later found to be innocent, after all? Is it ok to torture them?

For those who support capital punishment, why not bring back the guillotine? The whole process of killing someone is going to be gruesome and ugly no matter how you kill them.

Oh, and since you mentioned eternal punishment, sending someone to literally burn forever, is also cruel and unusual and a good reason to be an atheist.
11  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Why so little attention to the capital punishment decision? on: June 30, 2015, 02:16:03 pm
Why is there so little attention to the recent ruling on capital punishment?
Are people here not aware of that news story?
12  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of Militant Atheism on: June 30, 2015, 01:11:23 pm
If you mean the leader
of North Korea, who
may be an atheist, of
course he might be a
horrible person.
If he is, it has nothing,
per se, to do with being
an atheist.

If you aren't refering to
that kind of "atheist"
to whom are you refering?

How is one supposed to answer
the poll without an example
of someone whom you consider
to be a "militant" atheist?

The pro-war attitude of many
theists is reason enough to
to be an atheist.
No, I don't believe in the god
of war aka Mars. How is Jehovah
or Allah any different from Mars?
13  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What about "death"? on: June 17, 2015, 12:10:54 pm
While Iím relatively speaking, fit and healthy (and even when I'm not) dying bothers me, because it might hurt but death doesnít bother me. I didnít exist in any way, shape or form to experience 1982. If I donít experience 2082 for the same reason then why should it concern me? Death is simply moving back into a state of non-existence.

Accustom yourself to the belief that death is of no concern to us, since all good an evil lie in sensation and sensation ends with death. Therefore the true belief that death is nothing to us makes a mortal life happy, not by adding to it infinite time, but by taking away the desire for immortality. For there is no reason why the man who is thoroughly assured that there is nothing to fear in death should find anything to fear in life. So, too, he is foolish who says that he fears death, not because it will be painful when it comes, but because the anticipation of it is painful; for that which is no burden when it is present gives pain to no purpose when it is anticipated. Death, the most dreaded of evil, is therefore of no concern to us; for while we exist death is not present and when death is present we no longer exist. It is therefore nothing either to the living or to the dead since it is not present to the living and the dead no longer are Ė Epicurus

That only refers to one's own death. What about the death of others? It says nothing about that.
14  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: How did California gain 7 electoral votes in the 1980's? on: June 17, 2015, 09:42:30 am
I don't live there, but it is a nice place. Why wouldn't someone want to live there?
"It never rains in Southern California."

I haven't been to Oregon which doesn't seem to have as fast a growth rate as Nevada and Arizona. So, two out of three of the CA border states are also growing at a rapid rate, and I think it is obvious that it has something to do with warmer weather, but then I'm prejudiced; I hate winter.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Democrats: do you forgive Hillary Clinton for voting for the Iraq War? on: June 17, 2015, 09:36:30 am
No. She hasn't admitted that it was a mistake, has she?
16  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / What about "death"? on: June 17, 2015, 09:32:04 am
Yes, totally
17  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: did Jesus go to Jerusalem intending to die? on: May 27, 2015, 07:58:05 am
Although the term "universalism" has numerous meanings I am aware of only one definition
of universal salvation, and that is that everyone will eventually go to heaven. An ultra-universalist believes that everyone goes directly to heaven and there is no state after death to prepare someone to get there.

If everyone is saved, there is no need for religion and we might as well all be atheists.

Besides if having faith in the right kind of god is a prerequisite to salvation if you believe in hell and since there are many different religions the 'god' everyone speaks would prefer us all to be atheists anyway because the first commandment tells us not to believe in a false god, and chances are if you believe in god, it isn't the right one.
18  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: did Jesus go to Jerusalem intending to die? on: May 26, 2015, 01:25:23 pm
True Federalist,

Do you believe in universal salvation?
19  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Quadist's dilemma. on: May 25, 2015, 02:37:27 pm
Also, if it could be proven, somehow, that there is an afterlife, then why am I here in this reality in the first place?
20  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Quadist's dilemma. on: May 25, 2015, 02:35:03 pm
    It depends on your reason for stipulating that you would be willing to self-terminate at the age of 1,000.
Good question. I wasn't actually saying that I would self-terminate so much as that I would be willing to take the risk, although I don't know what that would entail.
My point is that if there is an afterlife, death wouldn't be such a bad thing and the reason to want to live forever in the current reality be gone. The dilemma is how will I ever know that there is an afterlife unless I "die" (which technically wouldn't be death if I lived on in some supernatural reality)? If I can't know one way or the other, why would I want to risk death since it might be the loss of life, without an afterlife.
21  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: did Jesus go to Jerusalem intending to die? on: May 25, 2015, 12:22:22 pm
Why would anybody want to die?
Why would anybody want to kill someone else?

Neither of those seem prudent, wise, logical or very nice.
If the death of one would save more than one?

You can't help anybody if you're dead. That's my point. So, I'm going to "go there".
22  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: did Jesus go to Jerusalem intending to die? on: May 25, 2015, 11:01:43 am
Why would anybody want to die?
Why would anybody want to kill someone else?

Neither of those seem prudent, wise, logical or very nice.
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the poor be allowed to starve? on: May 23, 2015, 11:48:53 am
no (I), but many will until we wake up and get our priorities back in order

I don't think either of the two parties will solve this problem until there is enough outrage
for them to do so
24  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Quadist's dilemma. on: May 23, 2015, 11:39:47 am
This may sound a little crazy, but there is a
method to my madness.

Suppose the following scenario.

I have decided that it is wrong to take my own life,
at least until I reach the age of one thousand years.

I reach the age of 1000 and have aged backwards to
a happy healthy 37 year old body.

I am presented with the question of whether to live
or to risk death. There is exactly a 50% chance that
there is some sort of afterlife.

What do I do?

I.
Continue to live and enjoy an indefinate life span,
to a million years a billion years onward
perhaps forever.

II.
Risk death.

Is this a catch 22 or not?
25  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Will Deism ever make a major comeback (in the US)? on: May 21, 2015, 01:16:01 pm
A Deist believes in God. An atheist does not. That sounds like a big difference, but practically speaking what is the difference? Perhaps someone could use the term Deist to indicate that there is a supernatural meaning to life beyond materialism. Perhaps a Deist could even believe in a life after the "spirit" leaves the body (commonly known as "death" but if there is an afterlife then death isn't literally death).

Since we are moving away from traditional "conservative" theism in this world, Deism may be an appealing alternative to some people, so my answer to the question is "I don't know".
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