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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: "Popular" Republicans have always won the electoral vote. on: July 19, 2014, 10:18:02 am
I would point out that back in the 18th century representations were much more proportional
than they are now. California and Wyoming both have two Senate seats. This kind of situation
was very different in the 18th century. Most states were closer to average although obviously not nearly the same size in population. I am not a big advocate for changing the electoral college, but it might be a good idea. The biggest problem with the current situation is that at least 80% of the states are seen as safe and the voters in those states aren't highly motivated to vote in a presidential election.

Here is a fairly obvious example of what a close election could look like:

2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: "Popular" Republicans have always won the electoral vote. on: July 19, 2014, 10:10:49 am
I could rephrase:

"More on big cities and less on sparse populations"

That doesn't change the original argument.

The spirit of the argument is this: should the electoral college be abolished, the winner of each election would largely be chosen by people who live in metropolitan areas and inner cities, because there are more people there. The interests of people who live in rural and frontier areas would be lost, because there are fewer of them.

Hence, the system is intended to insure that the interests of a minority (people who live in rural and frontier areas) aren't drowned out, because so many people live in cities and suburbs.

It is a way of leveling the playing field, to protect a minority population.

See where I'm going with this?

Yes. The Senate is based on a similar argument, as well.
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How can one be a Liberal Christian? on: July 18, 2014, 12:53:01 pm
There are two traditions in "Liberal Christianity" which make sense to me.
I do not call myself a Christian however, because it is a loaded term.

The first is that the Bible is not to be taken literally.
The second is that "God is still speaking." That doesn't mean I believe in
God, but that truth is not limited to the Bible or any other "book":


'And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen." John 21:25

In a nutshell I believe that words themselves are not 'the whole' truth but are like arrows which point to the truth.

4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I'm Leaving...For Now on: July 18, 2014, 12:18:50 pm
Oldies said he's leaving, no need for folks to be heckling him on his way out.

correct
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: You are all missing the point of "Ask" threads. on: July 16, 2014, 01:41:47 pm
meh
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Astrology fs or hs? on: July 16, 2014, 10:39:00 am
freedom 'system'
horrible 'system'

I wouldn't call it science or religion so I call it a 'system'.

I know people have strong feelings about the topic, so I am introducing it here
as an alternative to discussing politics and religion.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: "Popular" Republicans have always won the electoral vote. on: July 16, 2014, 10:30:33 am
I could rephrase:

"More on big cities and less on sparse populations"
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask Scott on: July 16, 2014, 09:53:00 am
Would you call yourself an adult?
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / What are your favorites? on: July 16, 2014, 09:17:31 am
one of each only if possibly:

I'll start

Song                Helplessly Hoping (
Type of art       Nature (any picture with trees, water, and a mountain)
TV Show           Big Bang
Movie               Amadeus
Color                Green
Food                Chef Salad with Russian dressing
Drink               Water
Hobby             Meditation
Number           Pi (the first 200 million digits)
Subject           Mathematics
Season          Spring
Book              Tao De Ching
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Buddha on: July 16, 2014, 07:45:39 am
(I can recommend some great books on those subjects that might be worth his while, but I'd rather not delve into that stuff here.)

If you want, send me a private message with your suggestions.
11  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How would you improve this board? on: July 15, 2014, 01:55:21 pm
I guess I could post some of my academic writing about Japanese Buddhism (with the serial numbers filed off if need be) if there would be any interest in that.

I am quite interested in knowing anything about different times of Buddhism. I am *relatively* ignorant about the details of Buddhism (in spite of my id), and only know the general teachings (8 fold path etc).. I have heard of Nichiren Buddhism, however.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Buddha on: July 15, 2014, 01:48:38 pm
Also it should come to no surprise that I see myself as very different (abnormal if you will) from most people, although I know there are others who see themselves that way.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Buddha on: July 15, 2014, 01:47:00 pm
I hope people will feel free to say exactly what is on their minds. I am not going to complain about anything that is critical or even harsh.
14  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How would you improve this board? on: July 15, 2014, 01:42:35 pm
I find it disturbing that (other than the internet), there are few places to pursue
comparative religion. Places where you would expect to find opportunities to learn
about different religions like colleges and churches are very disappointing.
Most of all you expect to find this opportunity with Unitarian Universalists who are
supposed to be so inclusive (although you get more of it there than anywhere else)
are more interested in political groupthink.

As I've pointed out before, what you get with the UUs is highly dependent upon the congregation, which is why I'm not going to the one closest to where I live.

I should try another one. But I do think that, as a whole, the denomination itself is very liberal politically, that doesn't mean that some congregations are more diverse than others. I have visited other ones, but not that often.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Buddha on: July 15, 2014, 01:39:37 pm
Discuss.

Thanks for this thread. I did a poll like this on myself a long time ago and there were comments that I cared too much about what other people thought of me, in other words that the question was too egocentric.

I feel like I should recuse myself from voting in this poll, because I don't think that I can be objective about myself. Very interested in seeing what people think about me, although I shouldn't be 'attached' to others opinions. It may be an opportunity to look at myself in a different light and even an opportunity to change.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will the Republican Party eventually change its name to Obstruction Party? on: July 15, 2014, 01:15:00 pm
For those of you who think that Democrats (or liberals if you will) are more 'enlightened' than Republicans, this would constitute an interesting phenomenon, where the young are more enlightened than the old.
This is also problematic insofar as elders are not respected, as perhaps they should be, for their wisdom. Could that be considered ironic, that society is becoming more 'mature' in the sense of being more enlightened, because the young are leaving the belief systems of their parents (at least in politics if not in religion)
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Plan to split California into 6 states advances on: July 15, 2014, 01:09:24 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/07/15/six-californias-tim-draper/12661161/

this is a good link with the current population of each of the six 'states'

I would vote no, but I don't live in California and if all six states had a yes majority I would say that would be enough to approve it. It would have to be approved by all the US, but I say yes if the people of California(s) want.

But why not simply divide it into two states, north and south?

Because the key point of this plan is to deliver power to Silicon Valley, not to make any coherent sense.
and hopefully the voters will see that
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Plan to split California into 6 states advances on: July 15, 2014, 01:08:49 pm
There have been many secession proposals in CA and the US over the years.

The only sucessful one was WV.
 ...in order not to secede they had to secede...
(from VA rather than from US)

Jefferson is also a proposed state constituting southern OR counties as
well as CA counties.

You forgot Maine and Kentucky, which originally were part of Massachusetts and Virginia respectively.

thanks for pointing that out.. so there is a precedent for seceding from a state, but not from the US itself.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / "Popular" Republicans have always won the electoral vote. on: July 15, 2014, 01:05:01 pm
The only point of the map below is that in order
for a candidate to win the popular vote and lose the
electoral vote it would be a very close election.

This map is a victory for the Democrats in 2016 or 2020
but would be a victory for Republicans thereafter.

The whole point of this thread is that the Republican
candidates who win the popular vote have *always*
won the electoral college. (I am pretty certain this is true,
correct me if it isn't)
I think this has a lot
to do with why many of them have been reluctant to
abolish it.

I am not convinced that the electoral college should be
abolished. There is a downside, as many have pointed out,
that Democrats would focus on large cities and ignore
the rest of the country. This may be true and if
it is it isn't necessarily a good thing.
On the other hand there are good arguments to abolish it
(or at least change it radically), as well...


20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Florida going forward on: July 15, 2014, 12:46:44 pm
Florida is probably more important than all the other states combined.
It has certainly been trending towards the Democrats.
Republicans should be worried for without Florida they are almost
certainly doomed. It's population is only slightly smaller than NY and will
likely soon have the third largest population in the nation.

It is also a bellweather and almost always goes with the winner.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Who are you and what do you believe? on: July 15, 2014, 12:28:47 pm
This is a thread for describing your belief system(s) either political or religious (or lack thereof) or both. You may throw in other things about yourself, but this is an opportunity to describe what you believe (and if you are so inclined), why you believe as you do.

I'll start:


politics:
I would describe my politics as left leaning.
I am an unloyal Democrat. That is I am a
registered Democrat, but consider myself an independent.
Most of all I am anti war.
I am extremely disillusioned with politics, because of the lack of good choices.
I find elections interesting, however, because of the 'horse-race' aspect.

religion:
I consider myself a 'freethinker' whatever that means.
I reject the concept of blind faith and question
to what degree any kind of 'faith' can be enlightened.
In other words all reason and no faith.
I believe in silence and quiet (=meditation)
and therefore could call myself a sort of Quaker/Buddhist
or even an agnostic atheist (Buddhism is not supposed
to be theistic, btw)
My 'religious' views change a lot more than my political views

personality wise:

the following may or may not have a lot to do with what I believe
infp (highly sensitive introvert and not a people person by any means)
homosexual in orientation (which adds to my disillusionment with traditional religion)
with interests in foreign language, history, personality, psychology, math and science
everything from bats to parallel universes.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will the Republican Party eventually change its name to Obstruction Party? on: July 15, 2014, 12:05:47 pm
Do those graphs take into account that some people may grow a little more conservative
with age? I have heard that said, but I don't know how true it is.
23  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How would you improve this board? on: July 15, 2014, 12:01:32 pm
I find it disturbing that (other than the internet), there are few places to pursue
comparative religion. Places where you would expect to find oportunities to learn
about different religions like colleges and churches are very disappointing.
Most of all you expect to find this opportunity with Unitarian Universalists who are
supposed to be so inclusive (although you get more of it there than anywhere else)
are more interested in political groupthink.
Christianity is such a broad field that it is as if some Christians seem to forget that
there are other religions in the world.
24  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How would you improve this board? on: July 15, 2014, 11:54:54 am
I suggest that those who have issues with this board review "high brow ambtions"..
nobody has posted to that thread since 2012. I wonder if more input from Gustaf in
the goal of keeping this board alive, is called for.
25  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How would you improve this board? on: July 15, 2014, 11:40:09 am
More silly questions in the "Ask X" threads.

should these kind of threads be in this forum, or would it be more appropriate to post them in the off topic or Forum Community fora.
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