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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: IA: PPP: Ernst +2 on: September 30, 2014, 08:48:16 pm
Talleyrand warned us about this, and we didn't listen.

I will now accept my accolades. Ernst is a wonderful candidate.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: 2 Month Term Act (Debating) on: September 30, 2014, 08:26:00 pm
I guess this is just an opinion thing.

I'm not sold on this - I like the idea of the office of Governor having more prestige with a four month term. Otherwise it just seems as if he's a Representative with a veto pen instead of a vote.

I don't really see the case for that; he'd have all the powers that the Governor currently has, but simply have to face election more. If say we had a Governor who won four terms in a row under the proposed system, it might even be more prestigious than a Governor who won two terms in a row under the current system, if that makes sense.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA on: September 30, 2014, 05:57:40 pm
Will Labor include a plank in it's platform condemning the President's nomination of noted-anti gay rights activist Hifly as SoEA?  I'm not trying to make trouble or anything, I'm just trying to figure out what to make of this.  I haven't been here in awhile so maybe things have changed, but I seem to recall a number of Laborites being well to even my left on marriage-related issues.  So I hope you'll forgive me if I'm rather perplexed by the current Labor President, DemPGH, nominating Atlasia's most infamous opponent of marriage equality (my apologies to Senator JCL, but he is no longer Atlasia's chief opponent of marriage equality Tongue ) to the cabinet shortly after the latter rammed through the Mideast Assembly a bill that would've forced public schools to indoctrinate our children with reprehensible homophobic propaganda.  

Anyway, I was just hoping someone could clarify the Labor Party's position on marriage equality for me.  Was there some seismic shift while I was gone that caused Labor to become an anti-gay rights party?  It seems kind of weird that a party that includes prominent supporters of legalizing group marriage, polygamy, and incest would decide same-sex marriage is the issue where they decide to tack in a more socially conservative direction, but there you go, I guess.  Or do you guys still support marriage equality for our nation's LGBT community?  I'm sorry to have to ask this if the Labor Party does still supports marriage equality, but I just want to make sure I don't have to worry about Senator JCL filling a Supreme Court vacancy or something Tongue

Parties generally don't include their opposition to individual presidential nominations in their platforms, so no, of course not. Many members, including myself, will continue to strongly oppose Hifly.

Labor as a party has spearheaded the movement for marriage rights in Atlasia, including extending spousal rights to group marriages and marriages born of incest, so your question seems quite odd in light of that.

I suggest you read up a little on what's actually going on in Atlasia before trying to make passive-aggressive attacks grounded in fictions diametrically opposed to reality.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA - CON LOCATION VOTE on: September 29, 2014, 04:47:28 pm
I would also like to see the General Secretary position being removed; it's clear we need to tone down the number of official party positions to streamline how this party is run.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: 2 Month Term Act (Debating) on: September 29, 2014, 04:26:09 pm
My hope with this was to increase activity by increasing the number of elections for the region's most important position, but scheduling them in with our off Assembly elections too. If we elect a Governor every two month, they would be less likely to trail off and decrease in activity towards the end of their terms, which we've seen sometimes with the four month terms, and we could have the people make their voices heard far more than we do now.

Of course this isn't a necessary change, but I do think it could really increase activity in regional politics.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Northeast Governor Talleyrand on: September 28, 2014, 02:22:40 pm
My apologies for my absence over the last two days. I've had a serious family issue going on and was unable to devote my time to Atlasia during this period. I've seen PMs from a number of citizens and plan to respond to them soon.

Criminal Justice Modernization Act of 2014

Section 1:
1. The purchase age for beer, wine, and spirits is set to sixteen years of age.
2. There shall be no minimum age of consumption for alcohol so long as a designated parent or guardian of the consumer is present. In instances where the respective parent(s) or guardians of the consumer are not present, the age of consumption is established at 16.
3. The offense of purchasing alcohol for those under sixteen years of age is defined as a misdemeanor, and shall be punishable by a fine not in excess of $300.

Section 2:
1. The purchase age for Psilocybin Mushrooms, Dimethylytyptamine, Lsysergic acid diethylamide, MDMA, Mescaline is set to sixteen years of age.
2. The offense of purchasing the aforementioned substances for those under sixteen is defined as a misdemeanor, and shall be punishable by a fine not in excess of $300.

Section 3:
1. There shall be no criminal penalties for the recreational use if any other psychoactive drugs not mentioned in this bill, regardless of their legal status.
2. This legislation shall go into effect upon passage

x Talleyrand

See the debate thread for why I support this bill or ask so here.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Deez Girls Ain't Loyal Act (Debating) on: September 28, 2014, 02:20:43 pm
Self-explanatory to me. No objections here. Smiley
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Criminal Justice Modernization Act (Debating) on: September 26, 2014, 08:19:20 am
I'm fine with reducing penalties on this; I'm not a fan of jail time for misdemeanors and minor felonies, especially concerning issues like selling alcohol to minors.

I think $300 is a small fine thought; could we raise it something higher? $1000 maybe?
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Post Dissolution Elections: June 2014 on: September 25, 2014, 05:33:09 pm
SirNick/Dallasfan would have won the first round and the election in a comfortable landslide.

That brings a close to this series.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who was the most recent presidential loser when you were born? on: September 25, 2014, 06:41:49 am
...Why are Kerry, McCain, and Romney on this poll? Since we have a lot of posters in their fifties, sixties, and even seventies, it would have been much more prudent to include Stevenson, Dewey, and Wilkie.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Seat: Matt from VT for Northeast Senator on: September 24, 2014, 05:05:04 pm
If anyone remembers, I was also the speaker of the Northeast Assembly last year, before joining Duke to run on The People's ticket. Before you were even in the Northeast good sir, I served in a capacity which Governor SirNick labled "hand of The King" Also before you joined our fine region, I served as a Secretary of commerce, and wrote a bill to help attract business to our region at a time when unemployment in Atlasia was on the rise (though admittedly now I would scrap the part that gives incentives to corporations, and add incentives for small businesses to pay their workers top dollar.

So your defense to your almost total inactivity over the last month or more and inconsistent activity as Vice President is that you served as Speaker of the Assembly for a short time last year (a position which Bore also held and did a fine job in) and that you drafted one bill as Northeast Commerce Secretary when Marokai was President. Color me convinced.

No one is going to judge you if you're busy in real life and don't have time for the game at the moment. But if that's the case, why are you seeking an office with much more responsibility and commitment than the one you are in right now, and in which you have shown yourself incapable of performing in?

Not to mention you haven't elaborated on a single point as how you'd be any different to Bore in your capacity as Senator, or any specific issues you have with his performance.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Budget Sanity Amendment (Debating) on: September 23, 2014, 04:58:55 pm
Also, deficit spending might make the game more interesting, but it would also make it a lot more complicated. How do you plan on incorporating government bonds, interest payments, and creditors?

This is an interesting question. Either, we'd have to oversimplify the deficit process (aka just total up excess spending not covered by revenue), or have to find a G.M. willing to help us handle things like that.

My hope with this is not to produce deficits for the sake of it, but simply to give us more flexibility. And in addition, since this is a game foremost, as you pointed out, this has the potential to make it more interesting.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Post Dissolution Elections: June 2014 on: September 23, 2014, 04:36:40 pm
8th and final part of this series.

2 days.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Northeast Governor Talleyrand on: September 23, 2014, 04:32:18 pm
Sanity in Seizures Act
Section 1:
1. Northeastern Regional police departments shall be entitled to no more than 25% of proceeds from criminal or civil forfeiture.
2. Remaining funds from criminal or civil forfeiture cases shall go either to the Northeast Regional Government or the Federal Government, pursuant to the Supremacy Clause.

Section 2:
1. This legislation shall go into effect upon passage.
2. All criminal and civil legislaton thenceforth passage shall be subject to this legislation.

x Talleyrand

My reasoning for signing this bill is detailed below.
I am completely in support of this bill. Police departments should not be allowed to take easy pickings off of criminal or civil forfeiture, and it is only fair that the vast majority of those possessions be transferred to the public indirectly via the regional government.

As for giving appropriations to local police departments, I think we've already done enough by enforcing the camera policy on them; it is up to local governments to figure out how to provide for their police departments. The Northeast government's duty is to regulate them, not give them blank checks. Wink
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Post Dissolution Elections: February 2014 on: September 23, 2014, 04:30:58 pm
In this hypothetical election, as in the last one, Duke/Matt would have won overwhelmingly.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai/Antonio V: Let Us Cling Together. on: September 23, 2014, 06:24:15 am
Splendid news! You have my endorsement.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Why not abolishing the parties? on: September 22, 2014, 04:27:07 pm
In absolutely no circumstances could I support an abolishment of political parties. As Al has repeatedly pointed out, the parties originated well before any government in Atlasia and remain pivotal to the organization of this game, which is fundamentally based off of elections.

Yes, ideally people would take into account ideology and activity more into consideration when voting, but there's no way to ensure that at all.

I like ZuWo's idea of secret ballots, and if there's a plausible way we can allow for them, while simultaneously allowing citizens to view results in real time, I'd wholeheartedly support that.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Budget Sanity Amendment (Debating) on: September 22, 2014, 04:23:05 pm
I might be leaning no on this to be quite honestly. We've ran surpluses in our fine region for about as long as I can remember, which I feel has helped us establish programs to better serve The People.

If the future Assembles feel that this is the appropriate course of action to go with, then they can still choose to do so. All that this proposal does is create more flexibility and not restrict them.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Sawx for Governor - Our Northeast on: September 22, 2014, 04:21:42 pm
As for Sawx, I understand he wanted to run for Governor, but his switch to TPP seems odd.

I actually had a conversation with Talleyrand regarding a run for governor. In fact, before I even mentioned it, he said that I should run, and I expressed my interest to him. Might as well take his advice.

This is true- by my calculations this was two to three weeks ago, but I didn't mention it to anyone else to my recollection. Nor did I endorse Barnes when he declared. You had the option to run in the primary, but chose not to, so all the betrayal nonsense is ludicrous.

Also, this "bicameralism" fear mongering is the biggest joke I've ever seen. It should be noted the proposal's strongest proponent and creator is former President Duke, a member of TPP, and it passed with the support of both members of the presidential ticket that TPP is likely to endorse. There were a number of people in Labor who either opposed or only supported it because they felt it was the only plausible way to get consolidation passed, including myself. If you think Labor has a "cult-like" obsession with it, you really should start paying more attention to the game.

In no way whatsoever are you a victim of the Labor party or Adam Griffin, and repeating patently false claims of "betrayal" isn't going to make that any more true.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Seat: Matt from VT for Northeast Senator on: September 22, 2014, 02:27:59 pm
Neither the candidate nor Maxwell or X have given ANY specific examples to support their claims.

Responding to X's wall of text, which could be condensed to three or four sentences, your whole basis for Matt's supposed exceptionalism is one bill which he proposed in the Senate back in April 2013, and which passed after he left office in a heavily edited manner. Doesn't cut the extraodinary claims you're making.

You continuously refer to your admiration of Senator Bore, but you fail to give any reason why Matt is better besides "he'd cut through the partisanship in Nyman to get things done!!!111", and you don't even justify that. You can't make an argument with vague platitudes, and Bore has given many good, specific examples of why he'd be the superior Senator already, which contrasts heavily with what this campaign seems to be all about.

Of course I don't have a problem with people voting based on friendship or partisanship; I wouldn't hesitate to give those as reasons I'm supporting Bore, but they're far down the list. Bore has been a conscientious and consistently hard worker in the Senator for a year and a half now, a time period in which Matt has had an extremely inconsistent record of activity and almost no accomplishments to his name. In the last month alone, he has contributed exactly one sentence to Assembly debate. Any "serious" player of this game would not even consider voting for him based on that alone.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Sawx for Governor - Our Northeast on: September 22, 2014, 06:46:03 am
I'm not sure why exactly this campaign seems to be running on, but it seems like there are several defining factors.

1. Labor betrayed me??? This has been dismissed multiple times again.

2. Barnes has a secret agenda of bicameralism? Yes, he supported it, as did the founder of the party you currently belong to, but has acknowledged that it is not a viable prospect anymore. It's also odd that you supported consolidation and had indicated that to several people, yet now suddenly you've switched support wholeheartedly to a plan that's TPP-friendly as soon as you've switched parties. That's fine, but the sanctimonious stuff about Labor shenanigans isn't adding up.

3. Your only major view on an issue has been support of an anti-homelessness initiative, but this totally ignores the fact that such a bill was introduced and passed in the Assembly last session by a Labor member and with Labor support.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Laborinth on: September 22, 2014, 06:39:56 am
Considering most of Labor betrayed me the moment Barnes announced, I don't think I belong there anymore.

For the record, this is patently false. As far as I know, you had only expressed your interest to me and a few others, none of whom endorsed Barnes after he declared. All this talk of "betrayal" and the like is laughable; if you had made you case directly to Laborites, many would have voted for you in the primary, I'd think.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Seat: Matt from VT for Northeast Senator on: September 22, 2014, 06:35:19 am
Endorsed, obviously.

Not sure why this has to be done twice.

My other question is posed towards those supporting Matt over Bore. What legitimate reasons do you justify with other that personal friendship with Matt?
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Predict Margin (%) for NC-Senate on: September 21, 2014, 10:23:18 pm
Tillis - 49%
Hagan - 46%
Haugh - 5%
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Budget Sanity Amendment (Debating) on: September 21, 2014, 10:20:12 pm
I'm not a fan of "muh balanced budgets" in the game or real life. Instead of a constitutional mandate to balance budgets in this game, I would rather leave this to the discretion of our lawmakers. Not only does this allow them much more flexibility with spending, it also creates an interesting gameplay dynamic by producing possible deficits and debts. This could create possible tension in elections and be an interesting issue, as one Assembly might have to "clean up the mess" left by another.

Forcing the Northeast government to issue balanced budgets in a document as concrete as our constitution is ridiculous.
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