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1  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Mitt Romney flies to UK, immediately starts insulting the country on: July 28, 2012, 01:37:46 pm
I agree no one's going to give a damn about Romney's tax returns.  This election is about the U.S. economy.

Besides, Obama is hiding a lot more records than Romney.  Romney has already released a year of his tax returns.  He should say that he'll release another when Obama releases a year of his education records.

Obama is hiding more because he hasn't released his education records? It comes off as really desperate that those on the right feel that Obama needs to prove that he's an intelligent individual.
Is there a precedent for doing that? How many past presidents/candidates have released their grades when running?
Really, who gives a $h!t if Obama made an A or a C in history class 30 years ago.

If that's all you think he's hiding, you must be shocked he's going through all the trouble.  But that's not all you think he's hiding, is it?

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He's not running as a constitutional lawyer trying to fix an economy which his policies nearly destroyed.

True, that was his 2008 campaign.

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He's running as President trying to fix an economy against the policies that the Rominee is advocating nearly destroyed.

Romney's advocating forcing banks to make loans to uncreditworthy people to "close the racial gap in home ownership"?  He's such a liberal that I wouldn't be surprised.

Anyway, Obama's had four years to fix it and I don't think anybody can say "he has fixed it" and expect to be taken seriously.
2  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Which attack is more dishonest? on: July 28, 2012, 01:22:31 pm
You have to understand the Leftist mindset.  Anytime you use a Leftist's very own words -- absolutely verified on video tape, whether made part of prepared remarks before Congress, or made in a speech before supporters, -- worse of all -- made in response to a simple question by some poor mook from Ohio, it's "unfair, horribly unfair!" because such attacks obscure the real truth that liberals are, you know, actually very smart and caring people.  (And if you're that poor Ohio mook, expect to be officially investigated.)

You see, for a Leftist, a "fair" attack is one that makes up a quote and assigns it to a conservative -- complete with an actor who will show you what it would have looked like if the conservative had actually said it, like "I can see Russia from my house!" -- because such attacks show the real truth that conservatives are, you know, actually really stupid and/or evil.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 14 killed in mass shooting at Batman screening on: July 28, 2012, 10:48:30 am
Where's the guy with this dumb cartoon on his signature?


He probably doesn't want to read this:

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http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4/bios/story/conceal-and-carry-stabbing-salt-lake-city-smiths/NDNrL1gxeE2rsRhrWCM9dQ.cspx

LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A citizen with a gun stopped a knife wielding man as he began stabbing people Thursday evening at the downtown Salt Lake City Smith's store.

Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."

Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."

Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him."

By the time officers arrived the suspect had been subdued by employees and shoppers. Police had high praise for gun carrying man who ended the hysteria.
4  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Why TOTUS? To stop Obama from saying the things he really believes on: July 28, 2012, 10:23:36 am
Wait, I don't understand, are you actually being insulting or do you actually think Obama's "stupid"? Huh I mean, I get that you don't like the guy (for, uh, various reasons) but you don't become President of the Harvard Law Review and graduate magna cum laude if you're an idiot.

I think he believes stupid things and as a consequence he says stupid things -- the things he actually believes -- when TOTUS isn't there to stop him.  (Oftentimes, when he "goes rogue" he does say factually incorrect things, which is a sign of ignorance more than stupidity, I'd say.)

Does that mean I think he's stupid?  I've always thought that he shows, like a lot of college faculty, a combination of ignorance and arrogance that is dangerous.  Compare him with, say, former-Pres. Clinton.  Very few people would claim that Clinton is humble, but neither would many say he is ignorant.  True, as President the man couldn't get out of bed in the morning before making at least two false statements but, unlike Obama, you never got the sense that he really thought they were true.

[modify:]  Also, regarding the Harvard Law Review, don't get confused between the positions of "president" and "editor".  The "president" is a figurehead, nothing else, while an "editor" is a "really sharp law student".

Regarding anything else that happened at Harvard, I don't know enough to comment because Obama won't release his records.
5  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Why TOTUS? To stop Obama from saying the things he really believes on: July 28, 2012, 10:17:10 am
I have no idea what this comment even was, but this looks like some pretty solid and swift damage control from the Obama campaign.

It wasn't anything. WhyteRain is a troll.

It "wasn't anything", eh?  So I'm a troll for thinking it was?  Hell, then the Obama campaign is all trolls -- LOL!

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http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443931404577551344018773450.html

Four Little Words

What's the difference between a calm and cool Barack Obama, and a rattled and worried Barack Obama? Four words, it turns out.

"You didn't build that" is swelling to such heights that it has the president somewhere unprecedented: on defense. Mr. Obama has felt compelled—for the first time in this campaign—to cut an ad in which he directly responds to the criticisms of his now-infamous speech, complaining his opponents took his words "out of context."

That ad follows two separate ones from his campaign attempting damage control. His campaign appearances are now about backpedaling and proclaiming his love for small business. And the Democratic National Committee produced its own panicked memo, which vowed to "turn the page" on Mr. Romney's "out of context . . . BS"—thereby acknowledging that Chicago has lost control of the message.

The Obama campaign has elevated poll-testing and focus-grouping to near-clinical heights, and the results drive the president's every action: his policies, his campaign venues, his targeted demographics, his messaging. That Mr. Obama felt required—teeth-gritted—to address the "you didn't build that" meme means his vaunted focus groups are sounding alarms.

(Emphasis added.)

I told y'all when this gaffe first erupted that it was a turning point in the election campaign.  I guess no matter how many top Obama handlers agree, I'm still a "troll".  :-)
6  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama doesn't 'get' the UK because he's not white - Romney adviser on: July 28, 2012, 10:07:20 am
It's hard to understand other races and cultures though. Each of us speaks and uses slang of our own ethnicity. For example, I get my hair cut by the black panthers and every time I go, I leave having learned a new set of ibonics. At first I didn't know what kind of place it was but it was by my apartment and I realized it when I walked in. Once they got used to the texture of my hair, I was getting the best haircuts I've ever gotten. It doesn't make sense to me and seems kind of funny but I'm sure they'd feel that way too if they came to my town and got their hair cut by a barber on Main St. It is natural for humans to feel safer and more secure if they do things within their own race, town, country, family, friends, economic class. This is a very big discussion that shouldn't really be taken lightly.

What? What? Ibonics? They taught you Ibo? Can you be our forum's black person?


What? Lol they just speak it and I pick it up. They say things like "dat bitch be chirpin like a pigeon on da roof." Another one of my favorites is " Weez just rappin for a halla minute." I'm not black though and don't think I can keep up wieht their ways.

The "black panthers" have a barber shop?
7  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Why TOTUS? To stop Obama from saying the things he really believes on: July 28, 2012, 09:50:34 am
What is with the Republican wet dream of Obama being too stupid to memorize speeches or say anything without a TelePrompter? I guess they'll learn after the debates.

I could fill a comment page with real-life examples of Obama being too stupid to memorize speeches or avoid saying idiotic things without TOTUS.



But even I couldn't find as many as his handlers could.  That's why where previous presidents used Teleprompters almost exclusively for important addresses to the nation, where every word was crucial, Obama's handlers force him to use TOTUS for even ordinary presidential announcements.

If you want to watch Sarah Palin give a speech after a teleprompter failure, go look at her acceptance speech at the 2008 GOP convention.  And the written copy of it that they gave her was three versions behind.

[modify:]  Unlike most Palin fans, I don't think the speech she gave at the GOP convention was good at all.  But she delivered it like a champion.
8  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Why TOTUS? To stop Obama from saying the things he really believes on: July 28, 2012, 09:42:43 am
I have no idea what this comment even was, but this looks like some pretty solid and swift damage control from the Obama campaign.

It wasn't anything. WhyteRain is a troll.

That's hilarious.  I'm a "troll" because I reveal a gaffe -- "not anything" says mondale84! -- that is so huge that the Obama campaign felt it had to run an ad featuring Dear Leader himself.  See it here; this time he's saying what TOTUS tells him to say:

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Obama ad: ‘You didn’t hear me say what you thought I said so here’s what I really said’

http://rbo2.com/2012/07/24/obama-ad-you-didnt-hear-me-say-what-you-thought-i-said-so-heres-what-i-really-said/

Unreality has a liberal bias.
9  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Another perfect spoof for SNL! Obama fakes "chance meeting" with veterans on: July 28, 2012, 09:26:58 am
Bush hired a male prostitute to impersonate a white house press reporter to ask him softball questions, do you remember?

Got a link for that?

Look up Jeff Gannon and Talon News. Check out the pictures but not while you're at work.

I'm asking about that cancelled check that Bush supposedly paid him.  

It's next to the cell phone transcript where Obama called these guys and arranged the meeting in the cafe.

In other words, unlike the provably fake meeting Obama had with "surprised" veterans, only in your Leftist imagination did Bush "hire" Jeff Gannon.  Well, that makes me an unsurprised veteran.
10  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Romney tells Israeli newspaper: The Arab Spring is Obama's fault on: July 28, 2012, 09:24:58 am
Romney's not allowed to have that view?

Of course he's allowed to have it.  It just strikes me as utterly bizarre.  First the GOP insists that the Arab Spring is a vindication of Bush's "freedom agenda" (as put forth in his second inaugural address), but now that Arab Spring has toppled some dictators and we have democratic elections, the fact that some of those elections have brought Islamists to power means that the Arab Spring was actually bad, and if only Obama had asked Mubarak for democratic elections nicely, he would have said yes....and the people wouldn't have elected Islamists?  Explain to me how that would have happened.

What seems to have happened here is that Romney was trying to appeal to his audience in this interview (Israelis and Americans who are nervous about the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt), but couldn't find the right way to thread the needle so that he could agree with them without making it sound like democracy in the Arab world is bad.


No that's not it. It's good to have free elections. It's bad to elect Islamists. Just because someone is elected to office doesn't mean that the people made the right choice. It just means they won "fair and square." Freedom in the Arab world is good as long as it stays as "freedom." The way I view it is as a work in progress. I don't think Romney would be wrong to call it that either. He's free to take my words too. In politics the bad guys can win.

The elections are free; the elections are fair. The people of Tunisia and Egypt have chosen Islam (I detest the words Islamism and Islamist) and you have no right to interfere with the democratic process.

Leftists automatically claim any election of anti-Americans is automatically "free and fair", but the web says differently.  Google "fraud tunisian elections" and then do the same for every other Arab Winter election.



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http://www.nysun.com/national/saudis-arabs-funneled-millions-to-president/5137/

Saudis, Arabs Funneled Millions
to President Clinton's Library

By JOSH GERSTEIN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | November 22, 2004


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Bill Clinton's Arab and Middle East Donors

From Pierre Tristam, About.com GuideDecember 18, 2008


Endless Love: Bill Clinton embraces the U.S. presidential habit of hugging Saudi Arabia--in this case, Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador to Washington for 22 years. They're at Moroccan King Mohammed VI's 2002 wedding to Salma Bennani. (Pascal Le Segretain/Getty Images)


 Former President Clinton has finally released the list of donors to his presidential library: 2,922 pages and 208,000 donors for Clinton's $165 million library in Little Rock, Ark (which these days, to the likely delight of motorcycle fans, is exhibiting the "Art of the Chopper").

Clinton resisted releasing the list until Hillary Clinton negotiated her way into the Obama administration as its likely secretary of state. The administration's deal with Bill was: show all. So he did. Why the resistance, anyway, is beyond me. Then again it isn't: Clinton wanted to hide the fact that up to $41 million of his donations come from Arab governments and individuals.


It appears that the Clinton's pals in the Arabian peninsula are putting their petrodollars -- fattened by Leftist opposition to oil development in the U.S. -- to good use:  Bankrolling the U.S. Secretary of State and the Islamist parties.

Is there any wonder that U.S. policy has changed and Hillary now calls the MB takeover of Egypt a "positive" development?
11  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Another perfect spoof for SNL! Obama fakes "chance meeting" with veterans on: July 28, 2012, 08:59:25 am
Bush hired a male prostitute to impersonate a white house press reporter to ask him softball questions, do you remember?

Got a link for that?

Look up Jeff Gannon and Talon News. Check out the pictures but not while you're at work.

I'm asking about that cancelled check that Bush supposedly paid him. 
12  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Romney tells Israeli newspaper: The Arab Spring is Obama's fault on: July 28, 2012, 08:57:44 am
A Republican is concerned about the intersection of religion and politics? That's.....interesting.

Any objective analysis would conclude that the Democrats are far more into using religion to prop up their policies -- from Obama claiming that Jesus would support his budget to Nancy Pelosi claiming that her job as Speaker was to implement policies that comport with the Gospels to the ubiquitous Democrats braying about "What Would Jesus Cut?".  Oh, and Congressional Democrats demanding more support from churches for their policies.
13  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Romney tells Israeli newspaper: The Arab Spring is Obama's fault on: July 28, 2012, 08:53:20 am
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=5207

So sayeth Romney:

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"Clearly we're disappointed in seeing Tunisia and Morocco elect Islamist governments. We're very concerned in seeing the new leader in Egypt as an Islamist leader. It is our hope to move these nations toward a more modern view of the world and to not present a threat to their neighbors and to the other nations of the world."

"The Arab Spring is not appropriately named. It has become a development of more concern and it occurred in part because of the reluctance on the part of various dictators to provide more freedom to their citizens. President [George W.] Bush urged [deposed Egyptian President] Hosni Mubarak to move toward a more democratic posture, but President Obama abandoned the freedom agenda and we are seeing today a whirlwind of tumult in the Middle East in part because these nations did not embrace the reforms that could have changed the course of their history, in a more peaceful manner."

So if Obama had been more like Bush, Mubarak would have offered free and fair elections without a fight, and they wouldn't have elected Islamists?

Correct.  The Egyptian "Spring" began in Jan, 2011.  There were regularly scheduled elections in Sept, 2011.  In the eight month interim, Bush would have fostered a secular opposition -- remember the only opposition that Mubarek permitted was the MB.  Obama chose not to do that.  Instead, he demanded Mubarek resign immediately, with the result that the MB was effectively the only organized party that was ready for the elections.
14  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Another perfect spoof for SNL! Obama fakes "chance meeting" with veterans on: July 28, 2012, 08:49:10 am
Bush hired a male prostitute to impersonate a white house press reporter to ask him softball questions, do you remember?

Got a link for that?
15  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Mitt Romney flies to UK, immediately starts insulting the country on: July 28, 2012, 08:45:14 am
I agree no one's going to give a damn about Romney's tax returns.  This election is about the U.S. economy.

Besides, Obama is hiding a lot more records than Romney.  Romney has already released a year of his tax returns.  He should say that he'll release another when Obama releases a year of his education records.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: which is more likely to happen? on: July 28, 2012, 08:26:54 am

This.  We already had a never-married President (1857-61).
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SC: Questions raised about possible Haley nepotism on: July 28, 2012, 08:24:46 am
The responses here from Democrats give me hope, but I still expect this to get more MSM play than did the arrest of Howard Dean's teenaged son for burglary in 2003 when Dean was a (the?) leading candidate for the 2004 Democratic nomination.

Obviously, it will. The media these days is a lot more based on the 24/7 news cycle, so yes. If Dean's son had been arrested this year, it would be all over the news. Comparing this to something that happened in 2003 makes your accusation quite ridiculous.

The "24/7 news cycle" began in 1979 with the Iranian hostage crisis.  Nothing's happened in the last 9 years to it.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Benjamin Netanyahu has +12 fav rating in America on: July 28, 2012, 08:23:00 am
The Israelis may have little to recommend themselves to the mind of a secular and rational European-American mind, but the Arabs have nothing at all.

Besides, it's easier to support the side that has "peace demonstrations" and has shown its willingness to "trade land for peace".
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Male FLOTUS on: July 27, 2012, 11:38:10 am
First Laddie.

LOL!  Good one!
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SC: Questions raised about possible Haley nepotism on: July 27, 2012, 11:36:50 am
The responses here from Democrats give me hope, but I still expect this to get more MSM play than did the arrest of Howard Dean's teenaged son for burglary in 2003 when Dean was a (the?) leading candidate for the 2004 Democratic nomination.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYT prints ultimate BRTD-baiting article: strips clubs at RNC on: July 27, 2012, 11:27:38 am
Only an idiot would think that the NYT will run a similar article about Charlotte.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: No threads on the Chick-fil-A debate? on: July 27, 2012, 11:25:40 am
Is it enough to show we care by banning Chick-fil-A restaurants from Boston and Chicago and college campuses, or should we imprison the directors and shareholders?

Seriously, I've never visited a Chick-fil-A, but I will now.

While the 1%ers try to destroy Chick-fil-A by government intimidation and force, the 99%ers destroyed this by quiet boycott:

23  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Mitt Romney flies to UK, immediately starts insulting the country on: July 27, 2012, 10:08:18 am
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/piers-morgan-defends-mitt-romneys-olympics-comments-he-was-just-speaking-the-truth/
Piers Morgan Defends Romney’s Olympics Comments: ‘He Was Just Speaking The Truth’
by Noah Rothman | 3:30 pm, July 26th, 2012

CNN host Piers Morgan appeared on his network with Brooke Baldwin on Thursday where he ... defended Romney’s comments saying that the presumptive Republican nominee was “absolutely right” to question whether the U.K. was ready for the Olympics.
 
Baldwin asked Morgan for his thought on Romney saying that he found London’s lack of security preparation for the Olympics “disconcerting.” Morgan said he thought Romney was correct.

“It’s no secret over here that for the last three weeks the security around the Olympics has been a shambles,” said Morgan. “The outside firm they got in to run it has been all over the place – they didn’t have enough people and the army had to be drafted in. So, Mitt Romney was only saying exactly what has been happening.”
 
“He’s run an Olympics, so I thought he was perfectly entitled to be critical,” Morgan continued. He said that the English press jumped on him because they wanted Romney to “talk us up a bit,” but the substance of Romney’s critique was on point.

“I thought it was a bit of a fuss about nothing,” said Morgan. “He was just speaking the truth which can sometimes be rather unpalatable.”

(Emphasis added.)

I know a lot of people are wondering if this could cost Morgan his MSM job, the way that NYT reporter lost his after exposing the Democrats for raising millions of illegal donations, mostly from China, in the 1996 campaign.  I don't think so.  Unlike Chinagate, this one isn't going to result in 100 witnesses fleeing the U.S. one step ahead of the law.

I'm still worried about that CBS reporter who's covering Fast & Furious while nearly all the rest of the MSM suppressed the news.  Being "screamed at" by top Obama Administration officials is no way to get ahead in the MSM.
24  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Why TOTUS? To stop Obama from saying the things he really believes on: July 27, 2012, 09:39:06 am
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/240187-obama-campaign-stepping-up-damage-control-over-remark
Obama campaign stepping up damage-control over remark
 By Justin Sink - 07/25/12 07:47 PM ET

President Obama’s campaign scrambled to combat Republican efforts to highlight his “you didn’t build that” remark — a sign there are concerns the story could have legs far into the election cycle.

Team Obama released a new television ad late Tuesday with the president himself directly addressing the controversy. And the Democratic National Committee circulated a memo Wednesday detailing how it would respond to the GOP messaging.

This is why his handlers cringe every time he tries to speak extemporaneously or when, even with TOTUS there to tell him what to say, he "goes rogue" and starts thinking he knows something.
25  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Another perfect spoof for SNL! Obama fakes "chance meeting" with veterans on: July 27, 2012, 09:23:48 am
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/stunner-obama-s-3-surprised-veterans-at-portland-diner-were-likely-plants/
Busted…
Team O Plants 3 “Surprised” Veterans
at Out-of-the-Way Diner
to Speak With Obama
– Then Releases Their Bios

Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, July 25, 2012, 5:32 PM

Liberals:  Lie back, close your eyes, imagine that George W. Bush or Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney did this and then try to count how many hundreds of times we'd see it pilloried in the news and entertainment media.  It would last years, wouldn't it?  Maybe not decades, I'll admit.

Meanwhile, google "obama meets veterans at restaurant in oregon" and see how many MSM outlets have even mentioned it.  The NYT?  WaPo?  LATimes?  CBSNBCABC?

And you wonder why conservatives don't trust the MSM -- LOL!

Oh, and regarding the Topic subject line:  Don't expect to see this on SNL or any place else in the U.S. "entertainment media".
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