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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: March 26, 2015, 09:12:07 pm
Then I'm running risk management at "White Trash Bash" on Friday.

Would it kill you people to try not having overtly racist theme parties for once? No, the fact that it's mocking and deriding poor white people does not make it any more okay than the satirical "Let's all dress like ghetto black/Hispanic people" parties that frats at my school always had.

This coming from you?

EDIT: Also, since it seems to you that white right-wingers that have habits you detest are trash (that is at least the view you've purveyed), wouldn't this, for me, be a self-parody?

I have no idea what you're talking about or why you're putting words in my mouth.

Then again, I also have enough self awareness not to mock and denigrate people who didn't have the opportunities and privileges that I had in life - certainly not in as brazen and crass a way as you and your peer group have chosen to do.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Louie Gohmert on: March 26, 2015, 08:23:35 pm
From what I gather, our good man Louie barely has two nickels to rub together. He could run for president, bow out before completely embarrassing himself (though that doesn't give him much time) and walk away with a book deal and perhaps a TV or talk radio spot that would put some money in his pocket.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: March 26, 2015, 06:27:02 pm
Then I'm running risk management at "White Trash Bash" on Friday.

Would it kill you people to try not having overtly racist theme parties for once? No, the fact that it's mocking and deriding poor white people does not make it any more okay than the satirical "Let's all dress like ghetto black/Hispanic people" parties that frats at my school always had.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Arkansas bill would let bosses force employees to friend them on Facebook! on: March 26, 2015, 06:21:37 pm
Yeah, you see, this is small government Lyndon. Because employers, not employees, set the terms of employment. I don't necessarily like this, but at the same time, if I had a company I should be able to retain the right to make sure the employees don't defame or damage the company.

You do realize that companies already have ways of doing that, such as making you sign a nondisclosure agreement or a code of conduct?

This is just an excuse for some fat old Arkansas businessman to make his 20 year old female secretary let him follow her on Instagram so he can creep on her spring break photos. Or perhaps for some sexually frustrated right-wing Republican state legislator to keep an eye on all those fresh-faced, strapping young college men who intern in his office.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: March 26, 2015, 06:17:31 pm
Salesforce.com, one of the largest providers of cloud-based CRM software, has announced it is effectively boycotting the state - it will not send any of its employees to Indiana to sell its products or train customers.

Left unclear is what is going to happen to Salesforce employees who are already living and working in Indiana.

Here that, bigots? No Salesforce for you! Your marketing is going to suck from now on!
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: For the Republicans, who are the most important endorsements to get? on: March 25, 2015, 11:21:28 pm
Kay Bailey Hutchison has endorsed Jeb Bush. The fact that she did this before he's even officially announced his candidacy suggests she is well aware of just how irrelevant her endorsement is. And of course, she did it on MSNBC, which is basically the only news network she has ever been willing to appear on (I think she and Chris Matthews may share a love that dare not speak its name). To think, she might have become governor and then it really would have counted for something...
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Cruz Win Any Primaries or Cauci on: March 24, 2015, 10:54:00 pm
No, but maybe he'll get some cacti as a consolation prize.

8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What does Ted Cruz really want? on: March 24, 2015, 10:52:28 pm
I do find Cruz's placing so many chips on the Christian Right's square to be an odd tactical move.

He really has no bona fides to win them over. Sure, he's a Southern Baptist, but so is Bill Clinton. He's a Princeton-and-Harvard Man who, as far as I can tell, has never really worn religion on his sleeve during his time in public office. I recall there being an interview he did before running where he said abortion is "not an animating issue for [him]." Then, of course there is the fact that one of his major benefactors is Peter Thiel, a hedonistic anarcho-capitalist and Very Rich Gay who lives in San Francisco.

Maybe he realized that he's set fire to too many things to be anywhere near Establishment (and that's a crowded boat to be in anyway), but you can't be a Tea Party Outsider when you worked in the Bush Administration and your wife works for Goldman Sachs. Maybe cobbling together a Frankenstein out of the various Pat Robertson, Gary Bauer and Mike Huckabee coalitions was the most attractive remaining option.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XXII: Cleaning Up the Meat at [redacted]. on: March 24, 2015, 02:04:54 pm
I just got out of the doctor's office.  My diet is apparently so poor that he said I'm anemic.  He said I'm not getting the vitamins I need.  I'm not really surprised.  He's giving me a multivitamin prescription for it.  My bad cholesterol also jumped by 40 points since I had it checked a year ago.  He's also given me a nasal spray to help with the severe allergies.  My Zyrtec is having a tough time keeping up with the high pollen count.  The only good thing today is my blood sugar is perfectly normal, so still no sign of diabetes.

You're anemic because you're too lazy, overindulgent and undisciplined to buy a few dollars worth of vegetables at the grocery store. So now the federal government is going to spend hundreds of dollars on unnecessary medication for you.

You really are America personified.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Dubai or Ulan Bator? on: March 23, 2015, 10:54:29 pm
I'll bet Ulan Bator doesn't have one of these...

11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XXII: Cleaning Up the Meat at [redacted]. on: March 23, 2015, 10:49:38 pm
hamburger meat, Tostito chips, and a jar of that Tostitos Salsa Con Queso

What is that, Cheat Meal #27 for the week?

Nah Indy, a cheat meal is only when he eats out you see. Calories don't matter since preparing the meal with his own hands while standing, burns off all the calories of the food.

Even with his lax definition of "cheat meal" as "any meal from a restaurant", have there actually been any weeks in which he managed to stick to just two cheat meals, as per his original rules?  Last week, he had three cheat meals.  The first week of the diet, he also had three.  Many of the weeks in between, he was visiting his parents, and "had to eat whatever they fed him", so the normal rules of the diet were suspended.


Jeff is working now. Obviously he can't be expected to have a full time job and be on a diet. So unlimited cheat meals on work days and work nights are acceptable. But, as per longstanding Brown Family policy, dieting is unacceptable on weekends and the day immediately preceding a weekend, as these are fun days.

So basically, it's not possible for Jeff to diet any day of the week. The rules just won't allow it. There's nothing he can do about it.
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Worst Relationships between Heads of Friendly or Allied Countries on: March 23, 2015, 10:39:06 pm
Barack Obama (U.S.) and Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel) - obviously very visible recently

Richard Nixon (U.S.) and Indira Gandhi (India) - the G-rated version involves him habitually referring to her as "that witch"

Richard Nixon (U.S.) and Pierre Trudeau (Canada) - of Nixon's tirades against him, Trudeau would say, "I've been called worse things by better people."

What are some others?
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XXII: Cleaning Up the Meat at [redacted]. on: March 23, 2015, 10:20:26 pm
So, I get condemnation for browning meat for nachos?  Typical, but sad.

No, you get condemnation for consider nachos part of a "diet."

I never said that.  I don't deserve ANY condemnation for my choice of supper tonight.

Weighs nearly 300 pounds, doesn't exercise, eats nachos for dinner. Yeah, I'd say some condemnation is in order.

Are you on a diet? Yes or no.
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US-Israeli Relations After the Election on: March 23, 2015, 10:16:10 pm
Most Israeli arguments rely on treating the Arabs as a single unified nation. I would say this was disingenuous but then again, they treat the Jews as a single nation as well, so maybe it's not. It's still pretty dumb though. Palestinian Arabs are not Moroccan Arabs, they cannot be held accountable for each  others actions, at the individual level OR the "national" level.

Of course they are not. But while this is a dispute over land ownership rights, I reject the idea that the land in question creates a nationality where none existed, anymore than Hungarians in Romania or Germans in Silesia were independent nations, rather than Germans or Hungarians who happened to live outside of Germany's borders. I also reject the idea on the Israeli side of any sort of biblical or historical claim - where Israel is happens to be incidental to the fact that it is where it currently is located and has the borders which it has. The question is how to make that situation as functional as possible.

I understand completely why people do not want to live in someone else's national state, as well as why people want to live in their own national state. But the solution to that is not to deny Jews their national state, and there would only be an argument for that if there were not plenty of Arab national states around. But I find the fixation on the West Bank as some sort of sacred "national" land incomprehensible. It is first and foremost territory. If the issue is wanting to live in an Arab state, then it is possible to move. If the issue is compensation, it can be provided on an individual basis as it was for decades in Israel, or in the form of compensation. But the insistence that Palestinians want an Arab national state, that they want it to encompass territory they do not control, and that they want to set the conditions on which those who actually control the territory can remain and live there under is delusional lunacy given the reality on the ground and makes any rational solution impossible. The Copts were in Egypt before the Arabs, but for them to demand a Coptic state encompassing  Egyptian territory in which Judaism would be treated at best as a tolerated minority, and in exchange they might allow a third or so of Egypt's Arab population to remain they would be laughed at.

You don't really...get Arabs, do you? I don't know how many times I have to tell you that the entire swath of people who can be described as "Arab" have about as much in common with one another as the people from the Americas to Iberia who are called "Hispanic."

Pan-Arabism was more a reaction to the end of colonialism and a sense of insecurity at being surrounded by European liberal capitalists on one side and Russo-Chinese communists on the other, than the result of any cohesive Arab identity that could rise above regionalism and sectarianism.

Jews, apparently, have no problem moving across the world and living with other people who happen to be Jewish but speak different languages, have different cultural traditions and come from a different political reality. That's all well and good. But you can't get Arabs not to view even the people who live in a town a few miles away with suspicion and derision. They're overcome with parochialism and the vanity of tiny differences.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Cabrini-Green Housing Projects? on: March 23, 2015, 09:43:49 pm
Would still rather live there than a suburb

Mayor Jane Byrne said the same thing.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XXII: Cleaning Up the Meat at [redacted]. on: March 23, 2015, 08:08:04 pm
hamburger meat, Tostito chips, and a jar of that Tostitos Salsa Con Queso

What is that, Cheat Meal #27 for the week?
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In a 49 state landslide can Hillary carry... on: March 22, 2015, 11:19:14 pm
No, no chance in hell. She will win all the other 49 states but she is just too unpopular in CO. Martin O'Malley or Jim Webb would win in a landslide there, but meh, it's Hillary. She will probably bomb it after she is elected, anyway.

Webb will be too busy campaigning in West Virginia and Kentucky to worry about CO.

#Populist
#UlsterScotsmentum

Colorado's Germanic farmers and Anglo-Puritan West Coast transplants will not be receptive to Jim Webb's Celtic freedom manifesto.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Cruz to announce presidential candidacy on Monday on: March 22, 2015, 05:08:18 pm
This should make things interesting around here, since we now essentially have three Texans running: Cruz, Jeb and Rick Perry.

(Yes, Jeb is technically a Floridian but the Bush Organization here is obviously firmly behind him.)

I wonder who all the big money is going to break for and how our various Republican officeholders are going to cast their lots.
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US-Israeli Relations After the Election on: March 22, 2015, 03:33:10 pm
This is false. The PLO was committed to the end of Israel as an entity, not to expulsion of the Jews. Jews in Palestine was a fait accompli for the PLO since its creation.

Tell that to the Jewish population that was ethnically cleansed in the 1930s, and post 1947. Or the 800K Jews cleansed from the Arab world.

1930s ethnic cleansing: the Germans' fault
Post-1947 expulsions: the Moroccans', Iraqis', Egyptians', Syrians', Iranians' and Yemenis' fault

Please explain why you think the Palestinian people "owe" these Jews from other parts of the world anything or why their expulsion, regrettable and inappropriate as it was, is in any way their fault.
20  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US-Israeli Relations After the Election on: March 22, 2015, 03:30:21 pm
This is false. The PLO was committed to the end of Israel as an entity, not to expulsion of the Jews. Jews in Palestine was a fait accompli for the PLO since its creation.

The ultimate objective of Palestinian nationalists prior to the rise of political Islamism in the 1990s was the replacement of the State of Israel with a secular, democratic Palestinian state. Removal of the Jewish population was never on the table - though it was likely assumed that a lot of them would leave on their own because they wouldn't want to live in a state that was not officially Jewish.

Basically, they wanted everyone living under a different national government, with no one being forced out.

Compare that to the mainstream Israeli position at the time, which was the maintenance of the existing national government with the Arab population being removed.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XXII: Cleaning Up the Meat at [redacted]. on: March 22, 2015, 01:33:05 pm
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Texas Attorney General wants to prevent gay workers from caring for sick spouses on: March 22, 2015, 01:29:01 pm
Ugh...

Because he is a fellow Baylor alumnus, I actually have access to his mailing address and contact info and it makes me really want to just find someone in China who can sell me a bulk order of dildos that I can then mail to him on a daily basis to totally f#$% with his mind until I run out.

He comes home from work? Dildo in a FedEx box on the front porch. He comes into the office in the morning? "Mr. Paxton, there is a package for you." Dildo. He's walking out to his car at the end of the day? Dildo on the hood of the car.

Eventually Ken Paxton will be found naked, crouched behind some bushes in his neighborhood, muttering, "Dildos...dildos...dildos everywhere!" to himself. The authorities will get involved. Mr. Paxton will quietly resign for personal reasons. His traditional, heterosexual Christian marriage will disintegrate. His children will be ashamed of him.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Hillary as an Independent in 2008? on: March 22, 2015, 01:09:43 am
There are a lot of states where it would be too late for her to get a spot on the ballot as an independent to begin with if she decided to do this following the August DNC.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US-Israeli Relations After the Election on: March 21, 2015, 02:22:29 pm
Israel would likely find itself backed up against a corner by hostile powers looking to legislate it out of existence without the US' support.

South Africa spent over a decade in the same place, so don't expect overnight results.

Jews are a majority in Israel, they have a stronger position since the democracy argument is less powerful. Israel also does not have racism enshrined in their constitution despite all the apartheid hyperbole. If the   existence of Israel was really threatened I would still expect most Western governments to back it.

The problem is not Israel. The problem is Israel + territories. If there is no two-state solution, there has to be a one-state solution. And one-state solution means Jewish majority that is, at best, tenuous.
Yeah, Jews are not a majority in the area they control.  Not unless you accept the legitimacy of second-class Bantustans carved out of that area from places the Jews are happy to leave to be Palestinian ghettos.

As for the idea that there is zero racism in the Jewish constitution, I submit that their Law of Return is an inherently racist piece of legislation.
Granted the Law of Return is problematic by liberal democracy standards, but it correlates do the idea of Jewish nationality at basis of Zionist ideology and the nation-state based on its values. So if you accept a Jewish nation exists, a law of return is logical considering the diasporic state of that nation, if you don't than the Law of Return would inherently be racist in that view.

Also, I would say we need to differ between a democracy in ethnic sense (which is more common outside western world) and a liberal democracy who so far seems like an undesired concept in most non European countries. I say this as an Israeli who is for a liberal democracy with a harsh view on the Law of Return.

Israel inside the 1967 border is an ethnic democracy (with some liberal traits), this naturally creates tension with liberal values. I wouldn't call it an apartheid (as opposed to what's happening in the West Bank) but the institutionalized discrimination of Arabs in land ownership will be considered racist by liberal standards.


Except that European nation-states still acknowledge ethnic/linguistic minorities within their borders and consider them an integral part of the national identity. Israel does not do this for its non-Jewish, Arabic-speaking community.

Even the PLO defines a "Palestinian" as anyone who resided in Mandatory Palestine prior to 1948 (or the direct descendant of someone who did) - regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or linguistic community. In other words, this would include not only all Palestinians and all Israeli Arabs but probably about half of all Israeli Jews. (The bulk of those who would be excluded would be Jews from Arab countries or from Iran, and Jews of Russian/Soviet origin.) This is a far more generous criteria for citizenship than the criteria Israel uses (where someone who was living in Israel prior to 1948 could be ineligible for citizenship but someone who has never lived there in their life could be eligible).
25  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt on: March 20, 2015, 07:18:09 pm
I love the chick that stars in it.  She was in Bridesmaids, too.  Super mega cute. 

Her name is Ellie Kemper. And I agree she is super mega cute.
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