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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Truck rams into Mardi Gras crowd, 20+ injured. on: February 25, 2017, 11:45:35 pm
Sadly, my reaction was, "Oh thank god it was a drunk driver and not an Islamist terrorist who would be Trump's Reichstag Fire."
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Liberty vs Equality on: February 25, 2017, 07:09:09 pm
Liberty and equality are synonymous.

-LOLNo. Ron Paul is not Bernie Sanders. True liberty requires the possibility of unlimited inequality.

Who decreed that Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders are the respective arbiters of liberty and equality?
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who is the most at risk Congressman in 2018 and why? on: February 25, 2017, 06:41:49 pm
I think Jeff Denham's done, Darrell Issa's a goner, and really Barbara Comstock - if they find a very well-funded Democrat, she'll be gone.  There's a few of the upstate NY Republicans who are sitting ducks...  and Mike Coffman probably should just retire.

A lot of these Republicans are in serious danger of losing their seats but also there's a couple in conservative districts that are going to wind up like that guy from Nebraska's 2nd.

Dave Brat is really working hard at getting defeated in an upset.

Watch out for Trey Hollingsworth - heard he was a God-awful candidate.  That area of Indiana is famous for kicking out incumbents and if Trump's approvals are in the sh***er, that guy's going to go down in a wave.

Trey Hollingsworth is an extreme carpetbagger from Tennessee who spent a ton of his family's money to win that seat.

Democrats should find some photogenic white male veteran to run against him.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Super wealthy towns that heavily swung against Donald Trump on: February 24, 2017, 08:53:02 pm
#1, 3, 5, 7. The Villages, as we call them, are a handful of very tiny independent cities surrounded by the City of Houston - Bunker Hill Village, Hilshire Village, Hunters Creek Village, Piney Point Village, Spring Valley Village. They incorporated as separate entities in the mid-20th century to avoid city annexation (I'll let you fill in the blanks as to what political issues of the 1950s and 1960s might have incited them to do that.) They are, along with the Memorial area of Houston, sometimes referred to as the Memorial Villages.

This is the epicenter of Country Club Republicanism in Harris County (analogous to Dallas' Park Cities). The area is mostly in the 7th congressional district, once represented by George H. W. Bush, and currently represented by John Abney Culberson, whose politically established family has a county named after them.

It's not a big shock that these areas swung significantly to Hillary. However, many of the people who live here are relatively socially conservative (lots of Baptists and traditionalist Episcopalians) and either work in the energy industry or inherited money that was made in the energy industry. So that, combined with the general failure of Hillary to do quite as well with upscale whites as she wanted/needed, might explain why this swing wasn't bigger.

#4. West University Place is, as its name suggests, in southwest Houston near Rice University and the Texas Medical Center. While the Villages tend to mostly be older money made in energy and banking, West University Place is increasingly attracting the white collar, well-credentialed "knowledge economy" workers who are increasingly being monopolized by the Democrats. This is the habitat of doctors, surgeons, consultants, software professionals, and professors.

This neighborhood is well-personified by its state representative, Sarah Davis. A pro-choice pro-gay marriage Republican who often votes with the Democrats, Davis is a corporate lawyer in her 30s who has dogs instead of children.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Democratic Runner up vs Republican runner up: Ted Kennedy vs George Bush on: February 23, 2017, 11:40:19 pm
How would the South vote in this election? Neither of them are particularly appealing to that region.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump/USA considering joining the British Commonwealth on: February 23, 2017, 11:33:23 pm
I'd rather have the UK remove Trump from office and temporarily make the US a colony until we can elect a sane government. Kind of like what they did with Ian Smith and Rhodesia in 1979.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: CO-Gov on: February 23, 2017, 09:46:54 pm
For some reason, Colorado makes me the saddest of states moving away from Republicans.  I want the GOP to absolutely own the Mountain West, which is an absolutely awesome region that manages to carry its conservatism in a very classy way.

The Colorado that voted for Bob Dole is long gone, unfortunately.
Sad. Many children of those Dole voters are liberals. And remember, Dole's win wasn't even that impressive, his margin of victory was smaller than Nader's performance.

I like the fact that Colorado votes for my party so I can't blame Republicans for wanting that too.

Anyway, the gubernatorial election should be competitive, right?

With Trump poisoning the GOP brand, maybe not.

I think Colorado Republicans should absolutely start to portray Rocky Mountain Republicans as "different" in the same way that WV Democrats or MA Republicans do.
That's not a bad idea. They could be more socially moderate, and more sportsman/outdoors oriented. It works pretty well for WV Democrats, and MA Republicans (in governor elections).

Yeah, I have never understood why this isn't much more associated with conservatism ... the rugged outdoorsmen who is self-reliant and weary of government seems like the epitome of Western conservatism ... really a shame that hippies came to be associated with environmentalism and conservation.

Kind of hard to be the party of outdoorsmen when you're the party whose first move this year was to let coal companies pollute rivers.
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Also-Ran vs Running Mate, 1980: Anderson vs Lucey on: February 23, 2017, 12:43:25 am
Sounds like an alternative reality where the US developed into a European-style social democracy, with Lucey being the "Labor" candidate and Anderson being the "Liberal/Christian Democratic" candidate.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread on: February 21, 2017, 11:25:03 pm
Why this state can't just confine its elections to even numbered years with a spring primary and a November general election is beyond me.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NJ-11 2018: Can Rodney Frelinghuysen be defeated in 2018? on: February 21, 2017, 09:55:16 pm
I doubt it. His family has been prominent in this state since quite literally the Washington Presidency

I thought that was the sort of thing people were supposed to hate in the Trump Era.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who would win TX Primary ... Joaquin Castro or O'Rouke? on: February 21, 2017, 09:51:53 pm
Curious to know how popular Cruz still is with the wealthy educated urbanite crowd in Dallas and Houston. They voted against Trump but is he the exception or the rule going forward.


I feel like with all his pro-Trump/anti-Trump flip-flopping he's managed to piss everybody off at somebody point in the last year.

Cruz's base is in the Houston suburbs and in the DFW exurbs. He did not do well in the main DFW suburbs in the 2012 primary (part of that was Dallas Mayor Tom Leppert being in the race).

They will vote for him in the GE, but probably not in a contested primary.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bill OíReilly Says We Donít Have A Free Press Because Itís Too Liberal on: February 21, 2017, 09:45:33 pm
The question I always ask of conservatives who make this claim:

Why hasn't the free market "solved" this problem?

If people demand more conservative media, why isn't there more of it?
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Roe Died on: February 19, 2017, 05:10:29 pm
Honestly, I tend to think she was taken advantage of by Sarah Weddington, who was basically just out to make a name for herself. And I say that as someone whose views would generally be regarded as pro-choice.

If the abortion rights movement had simply been content to let abortion slowly become legalized state-by-state, it would have been much harder for a cohesive pro-life movement to metastasize onto the Christian Right and create such a major backlash.
Was abortion even much of a political issue before Roe v. Wade?



 Red-  Illegal.
 Purple- Legal in cases of rape.
 Blue-  Legal in cases of danger to woman's health.
 Green-  Legal in cases of danger to woman's health, rape or incest, or likely damaged fetus.
 Yellow-  Legal upon request.


WTF New Jersey? Granted I guess you could just go to New York so it wasn't that big of a deal, but still weird. Also how is the South more progressive than most of the country?

The current "battle lines" on abortion did not exist in the early 1970s.

At that time, you still had a lot of Catholics in the Northeast who had a traditionalist stance on abortion (or rather, they didn't really think too much about abortion specifically, but they deferred to the Church, which opposed it). An example of this was Prescott Bush (Episcopalian Republican) getting defeated for reelection to the Senate in Connecticut in 1962 because Catholics (already Democratic-leaning) regarded him as too pro-choice/pro-birth control.

Mainline Protestants were okay with abortion and birth control, and conservative Protestants simply didn't address it (they weren't out agitating to support it, but they weren't actively opposing it). The Southern Baptist Convention didn't even take an official position on abortion until the late 1970s in response to the Roe decision.

The relatively permissive regulations in the South make sense when you consider how completely neurotic these people were about miscegenation and family honor. If their daughter was raped by a black man, they wanted to know they had the ability to "take care of the matter." Note the illegality in Catholic Louisiana, and in Tennessee and Texas with their relatively small black populations.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the MSP airport Charles Lindbergh Terminal be renamed? on: February 19, 2017, 02:48:33 pm
Naming an airline terminal after Paul Wellstone is a little morbid. But yeah Lindbergh was a Nazi sympathizer.

Houston has an airport named after someone who died in a plane crash (William P. Hobby) and a terminal at another airport named after someone who died in a plane crash (Mickey Leland).
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Roe Died on: February 18, 2017, 04:36:13 pm
Honestly, I tend to think she was taken advantage of by Sarah Weddington, who was basically just out to make a name for herself. And I say that as someone whose views would generally be regarded as pro-choice.

If the abortion rights movement had simply been content to let abortion slowly become legalized state-by-state, it would have been much harder for a cohesive pro-life movement to metastasize onto the Christian Right and create such a major backlash.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CPAC: Milo as keynote speaker on: February 18, 2017, 04:33:28 pm
The worst part about Milo is that he is beloved by the same young Republicans who hated and still hate Trump. The College Republican types. The ones who wear that douchebag combination of khaki pants with a shirt, tie, and blazer to their weekly meetings.
I would be okay with that, except for the fact that most of them think that boat shoes are acceptable footwear for such a combination. Sad!
Boat shoes are not acceptable anywhere but on a boat imo.

Stupid frat kids should learn to invest in a pair of cordovan loafers. Smiley
Or even some brogues. I mean, I can understand they don't have enough money to buy dress shoes (well, many of them), but they look like gahbage.

If you can't afford to buy dress shoes, should you really be voting Republican?
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Super wealthy towns that heavily swung against Donald Trump on: February 16, 2017, 08:32:34 pm
Yes, he was about the worst possible candidate for them.

True, but I think these places are trending D in the long term anyway.

Depends, I think that particularly in Connecticut places like Darien and New Caanan are major commuter towns with a lot of people who work on Wall Street and they normally despise government regulation and will just vote for whichever candidate gives them a bigger tax break but Trump because of his general instability and seeming lack of concern for the health of markets was a turnoff for them. I think someone like Rubio or Kasich would have won those places which are still very conservative in attitude as much as economically, as they've been historically quite provincial. In 2020 in the event that Trump's been impeached I think they'd even swing back to Pence as the nominee. A lot of blue state Republicans even if they might be somewhat more socially liberal then the national party are able to rationalize it because they'd argue something like "even if Roe v Wade was overturned Connecticut would never criminalize abortion!" or at this point "gay marriage is a decided issue anyway!"

Generally, the financial industry strongly favors stability and predictability. Whether Clinton or Trump would be better for president or not, Clinton is without a doubt, far more predictable than Trump. Meanwhile, Romney won or did far better in these areas by being a fiscal conservative that was predictable and from there, could bring stability.

-Clinton was more predictable, but offered less stability. My guess is a whole lot of people were making basic category errors.

Hillary offered less stability? Less stability than what? The man who anger-tweets at companies that don't stock his daughter's clothing line? The man whose administration seems to have at least two or three "official" positions on everything?
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Report: The Russian Government Is Starting To Worry That Trump Will Be Impeached on: February 15, 2017, 12:12:05 am
I doubt that the Russians thought Trump would win. Rather, their operations were intended more to weaken Clinton.  Still, if they're worried about a Trump impeachment, they clearly don't understand our system.  Trump's going to need a lot dirtier hands than he has so far to get Republicans to support impeaching him.  Even if the Democrats take back the House and Senate next year, the Republicans will still have enough Senators to block a successful impeachment.

If the Democrats took back the House and the Senate next year, it will likely be because all of this was as bad as it seems or worse and Trump's approval ratings are in the basement.

Would the GOP really want to be the party that obstructed the impeachment of a president who took actions jeopardizing national security?
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Wikileaks criticizes...the leaks that brought down Flynn on: February 15, 2017, 12:04:50 am
Wikileaks is a shamelessly Putin puppet

No puppet! No puppet! You're the puppet!
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Keeps Gay Rights Envoy at State on: February 14, 2017, 10:29:45 pm
Big shock.

I despise Trump but aside from his misogyny and lechery, his stances on social issues were never the issue.

More evidence that his fundie Christian rube supporters were sold a bill of goods. I hope they enjoy Neil Gorsuch because that is the only thing they're going to get from this regime. The rest is going to be tax cuts for billionaires, special favors for Wall Street, and stuff like this to appease his little princess Ivanka so she isn't embarrassed when she goes out to lunch with her friends in Manhattan.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking News: Michael Flynn resigns on: February 14, 2017, 12:12:51 am
My axis of evil influencing Trump was Flynn, Bannon, and Sessions. This is an important step in the right direction.

Sessions does not belong with those monsters. He is an honorable man.

Too racist to be a judge in 1986.

Too racist to be AG in 2017.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking News: Michael Flynn resigns on: February 13, 2017, 11:43:50 pm
He should be testifying before Congress by the end of the week.

But that won't happen because the Republicans care more about power than they do about America.

I was very wrong when I assumed that the GOP was so divided that Trump would have checks and balances against him from his own party.

Considering how weak and incompetent the Democrats are, and how easily GOPers are brought to heel, you'd think that we were living in a one-party state. Obviously we aren't literally, but still.

GOP politicians care about two things:

1. Not getting primaried.

2. Not pissing off their donors.

Their primary voters have gone full Trumpist (just look at his approval ratings among Republicans).

Their donors may not like Trump but they really, really want their tax cuts, so they don't want him questioned either.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking News: Michael Flynn resigns on: February 13, 2017, 11:30:56 pm
He should be testifying before Congress by the end of the week.

But that won't happen because the Republicans care more about power than they do about America.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oklahoma lawmakers want men to approve all abortions on: February 13, 2017, 09:41:31 pm
If pro-life Republicans actually cared about the born as much as they claim to care about the unborn, I might actually have some respect for them.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Appalachia projected to lose more than 1K coal jobs in next two years. on: February 11, 2017, 07:32:38 pm
As long as the Democratic Party sticks with environmentalism as part of its message (which it definitely should), coal areas will continue to vote GOP.

Even when repealing environmental regulations doesn't produce any tangible benefits for their states?
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