Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
August 28, 2016, 03:43:33 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Be sure to enable your "Ultimate Profile" for even more goodies on your profile page!

  Show Posts
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 184
1  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Favorite State That Favors Your Political Opposition? on: August 09, 2016, 06:09:31 pm
Louisiana, on the strength of Cajun cuisine (the best regional food in the USA) and New Orleans, one of America's sadly few Real Cities.  Hope it lasts the century.

Runner-up is Kentucky, because bourbon.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you own a car? on: June 15, 2016, 03:23:10 pm
Nope, and I plan on never doing so.

It helps that I live in NYC– though, of course, I live here in large part precisely because I wish to never own a car.  Wish it was an attractive option more places.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Taking a break on: June 08, 2016, 08:54:30 am
They hate Sanders because his supporters tended to be too white and male for their taste and being an SJW/PC-warrior is very, very important.

I disagree. For a forum filled with politically-inclined young people, we have remarkably few SJW-type members. Moreover, those members fitting that description who come to mind are mostly Sanders supporters. The crowd of vehemently anti-Sanders Democrats tend to have more in common with what we would have referred to a few years ago as the Very Serious People, and they deploy the Bernie Bro caricature more for the sake of browbeating their opposition than out of any real concern about patriarchy, white supremacy, or anything like that.

With all due respect, this is some goddamn nonsense. Thanks for erasing me.

To clarify: if you really believe that I'm lying about my motivations when I say that things like harassment and implicit bias are Real Problems... that would be good to know going forward.  In particular I'd appreciate a clarification as to whether you agree that they are problems and you think people who complain about Bernie Bros are all just lying shills, or if you just systematically don't think people are allowed to point those behaviors out from any side.

i wouldn't have put you in the group of "vehemently anti-sanders democrats" Huh

I'm pretty strongly anti-BernieBro, you know that.  I've historically felt positive about Sanders but certain of his campaign's recent actions raise the depressing possibility that he's been getting high on his own stash and encouraging genuinely bad behavior.  We'll see how he decides to move forward, let's put it that way.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Taking a break on: June 08, 2016, 06:21:44 am
They hate Sanders because his supporters tended to be too white and male for their taste and being an SJW/PC-warrior is very, very important.

I disagree. For a forum filled with politically-inclined young people, we have remarkably few SJW-type members. Moreover, those members fitting that description who come to mind are mostly Sanders supporters. The crowd of vehemently anti-Sanders Democrats tend to have more in common with what we would have referred to a few years ago as the Very Serious People, and they deploy the Bernie Bro caricature more for the sake of browbeating their opposition than out of any real concern about patriarchy, white supremacy, or anything like that.

With all due respect, this is some goddamn nonsense. Thanks for erasing me.

To clarify: if you really believe that I'm lying about my motivations when I say that things like harassment and implicit bias are Real Problems... that would be good to know going forward.  In particular I'd appreciate a clarification as to whether you agree that they are problems and you think people who complain about Bernie Bros are all just lying shills, or if you just systematically don't think people are allowed to point those behaviors out from any side.
5  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Road Diets on: June 06, 2016, 07:56:50 pm
Required reading:

http://www.streetsblog.net/2016/06/06/finding-the-political-will-to-fix-four-lane-death-roads/

It wouldn't surprise me if this was in reaction to speeding drivers having killed a pedestrian or two on that road. And, of course, study after study has shown that business goes up along corridors where people walk or bite to get there, rather than just zoom through in their metal cocoons.

I obviously support this sort of measure anywhere and everywhere.

Anywhere and everywhere is a bit of a stretch.  A 4 lane median separated rural highway is about the safest road you can have... and with wide shoulders it can also accommodate cyclists and pedestrians (though those are rare on rural highways)

I think the biggest thing is that you want traffic moving... not stopped... but also not moving too quickly.  And you want a faster transit alternative.  The problem with American cities is often even with these traffic calming road diets, you are not offering an alternative.  Now the buses have to drive slower as well.  And dedicated bus lanes are only feasible in the "bus"iest of areas (see what I did there)



Sure, rural roads are a bit of an exception, as are limited access highways like the Interstate system.  You're not going to get much foot traffic along a farm or whatever (you might get recreational bikers, but people aren't going to use it as a primary form of transportation except in more built-up areas).  But traffic calming will still save lives in just about any context.

For the most part road diets don't even raise travel times much, anyway; the psychological perception of not being able to floor the gas pedal looms larger than any actual time loss, which tends to be pretty minimal.  Oftentimes having roads designed for 40 MPH speeding just means that you spend more time at stoplights.  And (as I've said many times before) I know that most people can't just give up their cars, not with our current zoning and transit funding, but there's still plenty of room for improvement on the margins.
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Road Diets on: June 06, 2016, 04:20:49 pm
Required reading:

http://www.streetsblog.net/2016/06/06/finding-the-political-will-to-fix-four-lane-death-roads/

It wouldn't surprise me if this was in reaction to speeding drivers having killed a pedestrian or two on that road. And, of course, study after study has shown that business goes up along corridors where people walk or bike to get there, rather than just zoom through in their metal cocoons.

I obviously support this sort of measure anywhere and everywhere.
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Ten largest US cities: Freedom Cities or Horrible Cities? on: May 21, 2016, 04:53:37 pm
Philly, NYC, Chicago, and Houston (yes Houston) are Freedom Cities.  The others are Horrible (though LA is the least horrible of that bunch and has been making real efforts to better itself).
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the Smith-LL feud? on: May 21, 2016, 04:14:44 pm
From what I've read, he was a better poster when he wasn't foaming at the mouth about 'the loony leftists taking over the party' or whatever.

Besides that, anybody who legitimately thinks that I'm a sock of evergreen is way too far gone for any of their posts to be taken seriously.

You use capital letters, of course you're not evergreen.  That's silly.

(I'm less sure that you're not somebody else's sock, but frankly I don't care much if you are.)
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Have you ever specified what pronouns you prefer? on: May 17, 2016, 01:50:07 pm
Yes it was a pretty normal thing to do in a lot of classes/clubs at my school since we had a lot of non-binary people.  You introduce yourself by saying your name and what pronouns your prefer.  Everyone just went by he, she, or they though.  This "zi/xie/ze" stuff is new to me.

Those invented pronouns aren't actually new, I was vaguely aware of them when I was in college over ten years ago.  But they're pretty niche and are likely to remain so in perpetuity.  

If anything, singular they is even more dominant than it used to be among non-binary people, as it has a much better chance of being understood and accepted by the general populace.  I have to think this is on balance a good thing.

As for the OP: I've never seen it in person, but I have seen it on the internet, where nobody knows you're not a dog.  So eh why not.  It's not worth getting worked up over.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Does this forum completely fail to understand working class whites? on: May 13, 2016, 04:11:02 pm
Yes, and, as with most invocations of the term, the "white" bit is unnecessary.

Given how often pundits say "working class" when they really mean "white working class," especially when they wish to offer some sort of "populist" attack on Democrats and/or liberals (from either the left or the right)... I think being precise with our language is vitally necessary.

To say nothing of PR's important point that you need to separate out North and South, as well.

This is not to say that Atlas is any good at understanding working class minorities, either.  But we're not going to do a better job by lumping all the various "working class"es together.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Can Trump repair his relations with the Latino/Female/Muslim demographics? on: May 10, 2016, 12:02:58 am
Happy #Eid! The best pilgrimage accommodation is found in Trump Tower Mecca, I love Muslims!

12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: #NeverTrump GOP endorsements (Sasse,Whitman,Romney,Baker, Beck,Kristol,Ridge...) on: May 08, 2016, 03:49:46 am
Former FL Rep. and current Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough says he won’t vote for Trump unless Trump backs away from some of his more extreme proposals like the Muslim ban:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/joe-scarborough-trump-vote-222834

Quote
"And I gotta say I was surprised and disappointed ... that yesterday, he stuck by the Muslim ban. That's a loser. It's a loser with the majority of Americans. And you've got Republicans like me. I just, I'm not going to vote for a guy" like that, Scarborough said, remarking that Trump has to signal that he would be willing to accept some Muslim refugees as long as they did not come from, say, Syria.

He added, "I'm never going to vote for a guy who says they are going to ban somebody because of the god they worship. And he's got to have to make that turn fast. He didn't do it yesterday. Maybe he does it over the next couple of weeks.”


So much for Trump/Scarborough.

While I can at least understand social conservatives like JCL not wanting to back Trump because of his strong flirtation with being pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and in favor of Single Payer Health Insurance comma I am got against us that they have Paw Coursey other Republicans like Scarborough and Company who claimed it's Trump's supposedly extreme views on Banning Muslims and the like and immigration that keep them from supporting him. And yet they would in a second rally around Ted Cruz if he won the nomination who holds essentially the exact same policy decisions. For most of these Republicans the only reason they're not supporting Trump vs. Cruise isn't because they have any different views, but rather because Cruz presented in a Harvard Law School veneer of respectable appearance, where is Trump presents the exact same policies with the vulgarity of a reality show star that he is. Color Me unimpressed by the so-called principled Republicans for withholding your support of trump a hundred and 1% on the basis of Style versus substance.

A) The style is the substance in this case, not just because of the profoundly farcical nature of Trump's campaign but because said "style" veers dangerously close to incitement to violence.  It's not merely a matter of making the subtext text.

B) And, if you think it is just a matter of making subtext text, if it's the exact same policies with a different skin...well, that's not entirely false.  But if you really think that, and you choose to stick with your blue avatar, you do realize what that implies about your own desires, no?
13  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: 2015 county predictions on: March 24, 2016, 11:47:53 am
Largest percentage gain in NY was... the Bronx!  Warms my heart.

NY State would have had a population loss were it not for the City.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gallup: For First Time, Majority in U.S. Oppose Nuclear Energy. on: March 21, 2016, 06:24:48 pm
I guess the pro-nuke propaganda isn't having much of an effect anymore.

The future is in green energy - not nuclear.

Compared to fossil fuels, nuclear energy is green.  Traditional fission reactors aren't actually the world's best long-term solution (the nuke baseleoad paradigm doesn't necessarily play the best with flexible next-fen grids, and there's only so much uranium in the earth's crust), but they have an important and positive role to play in the short and medium term.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gallup: For First Time, Majority in U.S. Oppose Nuclear Energy. on: March 21, 2016, 07:03:07 am
What the hell happened? That's such a sharp change.

Low gas prices, most likely.  Many people are likely preconditioned to find nuclear power scary, but when fossil fuels are more expensive, their desire for more energy production outweighs their natural squeamishness.  Petroleum and natural gas is dirt cheap right now, so they don't see a need to support nukes.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone IV - Hungover on: March 15, 2016, 06:51:18 am
We're playing a Serenade for Strings by a certain protégé of Dvorak, but we aren't doing so hot. I guess you could say it... SUKS!

If you got that pun, you might be a band nerd.

XD

We're playing part of Dvorak's New World Symphony right now; it says Ninth on the sheet music but I'm confused because it's also Fifth or something like that.

Dvorak's first four symphonies were all written in his youth and he never published them as an adult.  So, when it was premiered, the New World Symphony was given number #5, and it was known as that for awhile.  That is, until they discovered his juvenilia and re-numbered everything.  So now it's #9.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of AAD on: March 15, 2016, 05:46:54 am
A mixture. It's definitely got a better interface, the more exclusive member pool means there are less dumbarses and a lot of the content is better. That said the original purpose of AAD - a free speech, no rules board to interact with banned posters was hilariously stupid - we quickly found out that there was a reason people like Ziggy, Jamfist and the evil ballet dancer were banned (the only 'banned posters' worth talking to are politicus, Hamilton, Sawx and maybe tweed).

Einzige has left now, probably for good this time and jmfcst is officially gone for good.
You forgot Straha by the way.

No, that's a good list of quality banned posters as is.  I don't think Straha was "forgot."

Anyway, AAD is not without its problems but let's just say there are good reasons that even I (who never had much time for Trump or Update or coddling Nazis under the rationale of "free speech") have mostly migrated over there. 
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would most Trump supporters be Golden Dawn voters in Greece? on: March 12, 2016, 12:32:02 pm
Most would merely be UKIP or AfD or Forza Italia, which is still plenty bad but let's not be overbroad.

That said, some small segment would be into the Golden Shower, and as long as that group isn't being actively repudiated, as is really not happening, the effect is incredibly dangerous.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does this Ted Cruz quote make you like Ted Cruz more or less? on: March 08, 2016, 12:58:00 am
No influence on my honest opinion of him.

More in my ironic support for him. The idea that such a despicable villain would be a MLP fan is utterly hilarious. Kinda reminds me of the Master watching Teletubbies in The Sound of Drums. Cheesy

I take it you've lived your life up until today blissfully unaware of the existence of Nazi bronies.  Which are apparently an entire, and entirely real, sub-subculture unto their own.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Do you know any poor white people? on: March 07, 2016, 02:08:44 pm
The difference between being poor and white and poor and black is, if you are poor and white, and you DO somehow leave the ghetto, you LEAVE the ghetto.  You can wipe the dust from your feet and be done with it.  When you're black in this country, because we live in a racist society, you never, ever, truly leave the ghetto.  The assumptions about you that are embedded in our culture linger just beneath the surface, when they aren't simply laid bare.

To be a person of color in this country means no matter how wealthy or successful you are, you are never free from the bull****.

Seriously, what does this melodramatic BS even mean? Do you mean, even if a Black person is rich, they're "still in the ghetto" because if they're walking down a street at night, someone crosses the street to avoid them? No, if you're rich, you're rich. Even if a salesperson asks you if they can help you find anything (which they also ask White people) you are still rich.

Um

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversy
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Do you know any poor white people? on: March 07, 2016, 10:40:26 am
For f**ks sake.  We should be better than this.

To be clear: I'm not sure that I particularly want to vote the same way as West Virginia.  My deeply held beliefs include the truth that systemic racism is a Real Problem and that even poor people can have bad views, that we have a moral obligation, for the sake of future generations, to prosecute the War on Coal to its fullest extent and leave that sh*t in the ground, that we should invest in our cities, promote cultural cosmopolitanism, etc etc etc.  Being poor doesn't excuse being racist, it doesn't excuse spitting on facts.  These are things I don't have any particular interest in compromising on, and as such I recognize that a Democratic Party I can comfortably be a part of is one that is going to lose in a lot of poor white areas.  Some principles need defending, you can't please everyone all of the time.

But, Jesus f**k, it's still not okay to sneer on people who are struggling like that.  It's not okay to say, "you deserve the sh*t you're in."  You still gotta be the bigger man and treat people with compassion, and do things to help those in distress, despite whatever objectively harmful views they hold.  (And, even if West Virginia is a lost cause for the foreseeable future, taking the high road does make a difference.  Like, in, say, Ohio.)  If you can't do that, then kindly STFU.
22  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Most liberal state GOP/most conservative state Dems on: March 05, 2016, 09:54:05 am
Rhode Island for both.  

(Not actually true, but possibly true for most liberal GOP, which still has its share of Chaffee types, and the Dems are quite conservative for a blue state.  The gap between the two parties is almost certainly smallest there.)
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Inside the Republican Party’s Desperate Mission to Stop Donald Trump on: February 27, 2016, 12:17:17 pm
The party created this mess. By pandering to Tea Partiers and xenophobes more and more in recent years, they've welcomed the crazies into the party. Well, now the crazies dominate the base. What did you expect? I predicted this (albeit not with Trump as the candidate... nobody really predicted that) years ago when GOP officials kept increasingly giving in to and supporting Tea Partiers' unreasonable demands.

Yeah, but much of the Trump base is not tea partiers at all, who tend to be focused on fiscal issues and the like. It's more about the estranged working and lower middle class concerned about their standard of living and buying into Trump's protectionism, both as to trade, and as to immigration, with a loathing of Muslims mixed in.

That's cute that you think the Tea Party was ever motivated by "fiscal issues."
24  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: About the "Republican" White Working Class... on: February 27, 2016, 01:25:05 am
That's interesting, but why are you using such a narrow definition of working class?

(Though I agree the whites without college degrees as a proxy for white working class has its limitations).

When I think of the populist right constituency, I think it's largely made up of white men without degrees but they're usually not poor and they're often petty bourgeois rather than working class.

It's simultaneously too narrow and too broad.  A lot of the "poorest" white people, measured purely by income, are going to be college students (or similarly un/underemployed people) from comfortable backgrounds*. And the working class (measured by culture and/or financial stability) extends a fair amount beyond just the bottom third.  You could even argue that "working class" should cut off the bottom 20% or so, with those in full-on poverty being an entirely different class.

Obviously labels like "working class" is something we can argue endlessly about, and obviously income (like most variables used to measure concepts we're interested in in social sciences) is only an approximate measure.

Still, if you're interested in how the poorest White Americans vote, that's the best you've got (which, let's face it, is what a lot of people have in mind when they talk about this). And I will argue strongly against stretching the term "working class" too far up the income ladder.

Many of the "poorest white Americans" are in fact privileged college students.  You think people have the campus of Georgetown in mind when they talk about the white working class?

"Many" of them, really? How many out of the maybe around 40-50 million people that would fall in this category would be College students? I doubt it's enough to skew the results too strongly.

Also, I'm not entirely sure so don't take my word for it, but I think the ANES measures family income, which should filter out college kids with wealthy parents.

According to this source there were over 12 million under-25 (i.e. traditional age) college students in 2013.  Presumably a majority of them were white, in excess of the percentage of white people overall... so almost certainly north of 10 percent of that 40-50 mil sample.  That's enough to introduce quite a bit of skew!

And even if it is "family" income I'm not sure how you measure that besides counting households, and students living away from home in a dorm don't get to count as part of the household anymore.  (Of course not all college students do that, so that would lower the percentage some.)

Perhaps there could be some sort of income cap in addition to the degree/salaried requirements, but "lowest third" is obviously too stringent (come on, a plumber who makes in the 45th percentile obviously belongs in this category), and the vast majority of higher-earning individuals are filtered out by the salary requirement anyway.
25  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: About the "Republican" White Working Class... on: February 27, 2016, 01:08:47 am
That's interesting, but why are you using such a narrow definition of working class?

(Though I agree the whites without college degrees as a proxy for white working class has its limitations).

When I think of the populist right constituency, I think it's largely made up of white men without degrees but they're usually not poor and they're often petty bourgeois rather than working class.

It's simultaneously too narrow and too broad.  A lot of the "poorest" white people, measured purely by income, are going to be college students (or similarly un/underemployed people) from comfortable backgrounds*. And the working class (measured by culture and/or financial stability) extends a fair amount beyond just the bottom third.  You could even argue that "working class" should cut off the bottom 20% or so, with those in full-on poverty being an entirely different class.

Obviously labels like "working class" is something we can argue endlessly about, and obviously income (like most variables used to measure concepts we're interested in in social sciences) is only an approximate measure.

Still, if you're interested in how the poorest White Americans vote, that's the best you've got (which, let's face it, is what a lot of people have in mind when they talk about this). And I will argue strongly against stretching the term "working class" too far up the income ladder.

Many of the "poorest white Americans" are in fact privileged college students.  You think people have the campus of Georgetown in mind when they talk about the white working class?  The standard definition that Clarko gave is obviously better.
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 184


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines