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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Better 20th century Tory Prime Minister on: October 24, 2014, 10:32:23 am
Whatever you think about either politician, I can't come up with a justifiable reason not to pick Churchill.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Slavic country on: October 24, 2014, 08:37:09 am
Poland (Polish)
3  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Winfield vs Conlon Nancarrow's study for player piano number 37 on: October 23, 2014, 02:29:15 pm
!!!!!!!

Someone else has heard of Nancarrow!  I love his stuff!

Though the best places to start with Nancarrow are probably studies #3 (the "Boogie-Woogie Suite", which is relatively conventional and jazzy) and #48 (probably the culmination of his late style, with some of his most exciting ideas and a structure that is both ingenious and relatively accessible).

Sorry, that's probably not the response you were hoping for.  Or maybe it was, dunno. Tongue
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Cultural Marxism on: October 23, 2014, 02:22:53 pm
I still don't get what could possibly be so great about Mahler if one presumes that folk and popular musical forms are all degenerate and false consciousness-inducing products of the 'culture industry'. Guess there's some things I'll just never understand.

Adorno's views on culture are, deep down, not really all that different than the silliness that is Ayn Rand trying to prove that Rachmaninoff was objectively the best composer.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Cultural Marxism on: October 23, 2014, 01:43:14 pm
I was an English major!  And look where I am now.  Posting on Atlas.

Don't let your kids grow up to be English majors. Sad

Is this the right place to complain about Theodor W. Adorno's truly ridiculous degree of elitism for somebody who was supposedly a Marxist, and the profoundly unfortunate views of women inherent in the Minima Moralia's analysis of relationships and marriage?

I'm always down for complaining about his exaltation of dodecaphony as The One True Marxist Music, and the associated slander of golden great Igor Stravinsky.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Shut down the EPA? on: October 23, 2014, 12:50:16 pm
Yeah, the End Prosperity Association (EPA) is a government enforcement group that should be ended as quickly as possible. The EPA is akin to a Lucchese or Gambino strong man who enforces will through force, threats and terror. Be rid of it.



Some people just wanna watch the world burn.  Good to know you're one of them.
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: NFL Pick a Winner Week #8 on: October 23, 2014, 11:34:10 am
Bills
8  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Winfield vs Conlon Nancarrow's study for player piano number 37 on: October 22, 2014, 09:35:17 pm
!!!!!!!

Someone else has heard of Nancarrow!  I love his stuff!
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The t_host1 Institute of Comedy on: October 22, 2014, 04:55:39 pm

White culture of violence at it again. Cops should have put those thugs down like the animals they are. No wonder they riot at a pumpkin festival when their thug music glorifies that kind of violence. When will leaders in the white community (like Ryan Seacrest and Bill O'Reilly) speak out against this destructive culture?!
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How partisan are you in your voting? on: October 22, 2014, 01:12:46 pm
100 percent partisan Dem at the federal level, barring weird tactical situations like an Orman or a Murkowski that have never come up where I've lived.

At the state level I'll still basically never vote for Republicans, but the Dems are both dominant enough and sh*tty enough that third-party protest votes are acceptable, and sometimes even necessary.  (Hi, Cuomo!  Hi Simcha!  Eff you too!)

The nature of coalitions in local politics here are sufficiently different from higher levels that partisan affiliation plays less of a role in my choices.  Obviously as a matter of course I'm still mostly voting Dem; but the real action is in the primaries instead, and I can imagine situations where an R after one's name is not an automatic disqualification.  Sue me, but I do think Bloomberg did a lot of good things.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the following sock accusations have you believed? on: October 21, 2014, 04:36:37 pm
GaussLaw isn't jmfcst; he's Svensson.

Yes, this.

I really can't fathom the thinking behind this.  I mean, I could totally believe that we have a Svensson sock lurking among us right now, but that it would be GaussLaw (or, really, that Gauss is a sock of any sort) seems rather farfetched to me.

Sources indicate that his account is linked to numerous IP proxies worldwide. In addition to that, his profile lists a disposable junk e-mail service as his e-mail account. Both are suspicious.

Ok, yeah, that is in fact suspicious.

I don't really see the Svensson similarity (and this is coming from someone who could tell pretty immediately that BradyNH was Svensson), but I guess I can't rule out the possibility that perhaps there are some subtleties that might be more obvious to folks who have been around longer than I, and thus had more exposure to his earlier incarnations.

Eh, as you said, whatever, live and let post. I'm all in favor of cracking down on disruptive trolls (and keeping things honest in fantasyland for those who care about that) but I don't think GaussLaw falls into those categories.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the following sock accusations have you believed? on: October 21, 2014, 04:19:17 pm
GaussLaw is obviously sock, although I have absolutely no idea who he belongs to.

Please do elaborate as to how it's so obvious.

GaussLaw isn't jmfcst; he's Svensson.

Yes, this.

I really can't fathom the thinking behind this.  I mean, I could totally believe that we have a Svensson sock lurking among us right now, but that it would be GaussLaw (or, really, that Gauss is a sock of any sort) seems rather farfetched to me.

Who is solarstorm2012 a sock of?

Not sure, but it must be someone. The apparent "claiming to be German while posting from the US" thing is bizarre.

Seems pretty similar to excelsus.

There's no IP match between the two. Seems like solarstorm is (surprisingly) legit.

Huh, ok.  I retract the above insinuation, then!
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the following sock accusations have you believed? on: October 21, 2014, 03:42:02 pm
GaussLaw isn't jmfcst; he's Svensson.

Yes, this.

I really can't fathom the thinking behind this.  I mean, I could totally believe that we have a Svensson sock lurking among us right now, but that it would be GaussLaw (or, really, that Gauss is a sock of any sort) seems rather farfetched to me.

Who is solarstorm2012 a sock of?

Not sure, but it must be someone. The apparent "claiming to be German while posting from the US" thing is bizarre.

Seems pretty similar to excelsus. 
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of wormyguy on: October 21, 2014, 02:58:09 pm
If one more person thinks that "ideology" is somehow escapable...

Thank you for contributing, once again, to the Irony Mine.

not at all, if you understand what he is saying.

What Snowstalker said is misleading, simplistic, tendentious, tedious, etc.

But, no, it's not in any way ironic.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Giant Butt Plug in Center of Paris Deflated by Prudish Vandals on: October 21, 2014, 12:37:03 pm
Look, I like modern art.  Including a lot of modern art that would be considered "shocking" or "obscene" by your garden-variety prude, and including a lot of conceptual stuff that, well, stretches the boundaries and doesn't necessarily hew to conventional standards of genre and craftsmanship.

This piece, however, is pretty stupid.  There's no there there beyond the winking shock value.

However, even if it's stupid that doesn't mean it's okay to vandalize it. 

Eh.  Everyone comes off looking like an ass here.  Good job!
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Worst President of these three (19th-century Republicans) on: October 21, 2014, 12:29:57 pm
Grant is clearly the best of these three; turning a blind eye to corruption is not so great but ending Reconstruction and being a warmongering goldbug are both clearly worse.

Eh, coinflip, voted Hayes.
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Worst President of these three (19th-century Democrats or Unionists) on: October 21, 2014, 12:27:49 pm
Well, we're talking about (give or take some wiggle room on the rankings) the three worst Presidents in American history here, so any of them would be "fine" choices.

Ultimately I have to go with Buchanan for his meddling in Dred Scott.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread (US Domestic) on: October 21, 2014, 12:25:26 pm
Of course.  Design decisions made in the service of having a playable board game with simple and engaging mechanics should totally be taken as expert advice from actual epidemiologists.  Makes perfect sense.  Roll Eyes

This is the same principle by which Risk proved that control of Australia is the most important step towards control of the world; or, to get even nerdier, how Twilight Struggle proved that domino theory was correct.

A.) That's not my point and you know it. I also noticed you still haven't actually pointed out why such a ban is a bad idea.

B.) I wasn't talking about the board game. I was talking about the computer version, it's similar but you play as the virus and try to kill as many as possible.

A: I actually have, just in a different thread.

B: Oh!  That makes so much difference!  My point is demolished!

Good gravyRoll Eyes
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - Lowborn Egoism Herrings on: October 20, 2014, 11:23:13 pm
So I went to go see The Death of Klinghoffer.  There were actually fewer protests and outbursts than I was expecting.  Might add some more thoughts about it later if I'm not too lazy.

(Spoiler: I'll probably be too lazy.)
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gamergate on: October 20, 2014, 01:06:39 pm
My only thoughts on the matter: hardcore gamers are psychopaths by and large, always have been, and always will be. This whole "debate" has only served to prove it to me.

This is the kind of blatant generalization that gamergate has been complaining about.

And I frankly don't give a good goddamn. If gamers really care so much about being generalized, maybe they ought to change their attitudes.

Another generalization. How can you know the attitudes of all gamers?

I never said I did. But I sure as hell know the attitude of most gamers, and that's more than enough to generalize.

Sigh... this isn't actually helping.

There are plenty of good people who also happen to be gamers.  These good people, of course, are overwhelmingly opposed to Gamergate.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which Flame Warrior is the preceding poster? on: October 19, 2014, 10:08:32 pm
Net Rat.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of wormyguy on: October 19, 2014, 05:02:12 pm
I have a few pet peeves, such as prioritizing abstract ideology and/or partisan advantage over keeping people safe in the real world

To be blunter-than-usual: this is deluded, disingenuous, or both.

Your stance on Ebola, at the very least, is a perfect example of "prioritizing abstract ideology and/or partisan advantage over keeping people safe in the real world".  Experts are virtually unanimous that a travel ban won't work, both because most flights from West Africa go to Europe, so a unilateral US ban would do jacksh*t and that they're useless and counterproductive on their own terms anyway.  If you really cared about keeping Americans safe you'd devote more effort to the scourge of falling TVs than to Ebola-inspired flight bans.  The proposals for such a ban are obviously political theater for the sake of partisanship, and that would be one thing by itself but you take it further: this apparent projection that Obama is trying to "buy votes" from Liberia or something is just too offensively ludicrous to even be possible to respond to.  So I'll leave it be.

Regardless, I meant what I said about Atlas being a more interesting place when you're around, and even if I think you're kind of nuts 99% of the time it's good for this place to have you keep on keepin' on.  I did quite genuinely enjoy your takedown of Martha Coakley, if that's any comfort.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you listening to right now? II on: October 19, 2014, 04:32:14 pm
John Adams- Violin Concerto

A perennial favorite.  My pick for best classical composition written in the past 50 years, and probably one of my all-time favorites regardless of era.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread (US Domestic) on: October 19, 2014, 03:40:01 pm
Of course we should institute a travel ban on majorly affected nations. Anybody who's even so much as played Pandemic knows this is the first step. I have yet to hear a serious argument as to why we shouldn't. We now have multiple Ebola cases in America explicitly because of our refusal to take this necessary step.

Containment is the first step to resolving this.

Of course.  Design decisions made in the service of having a playable board game with simple and engaging mechanics should totally be taken as expert advice from actual epidemiologists.  Makes perfect sense.  Roll Eyes

This is the same principle by which Risk proved that control of Australia is the most important step towards control of the world; or, to get even nerdier, how Twilight Struggle proved that domino theory was correct*.

*never mind that the designer of Twilight Struggle was forthright about how it was adopted for the purpose of gameplay (or at best a window into the minds of people who actually believed it) rather than perfect historical verisimilitude...
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gamergate on: October 19, 2014, 12:19:32 pm
I've always thought the strange thing about Sarkeesian is the contrast between the MOR content of her videos, and the incredible emotion in the wider world they provoke. Although I normally find them interesting enough, "Tropes vs Women" strike me as very standard feminist analysis. It seems ridiculous the amount of passion is poured into attacking her or obsessively weeding out her "hypocrisies". And because of that enormous backlash, "gamers" (in reality, dweebs who inexplicably believe themselves representative of all gamers, and edgy political regressives seeking a movement to co-opt), have actually vastly increased Anita's and other SJW's influence on the industry. Which is ... quite funny I guess? I find it funny.

Some rebuttals make sense, but a lot of them are made by stupids who don't seem to understand the difference between a review and a critique. Some of them made by STEMlords dissing entire academic fields flippantly almost make me embarrassed to be a science student. 

This, this, exactly this.  It's pretty obvious that a lot of the opposition to her is not so much directed toward the specific content of her videos, but comes from a place that tries to discredit or dismiss the very idea of cultural critique.  And that's a stance that I have an incredibly hard time respecting.
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