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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Wages for Housework Act on: July 31, 2014, 10:23:53 pm
I'd work, for one, and I'm sure you would, Mr. Hagrid.

I'm not so sure. If the state was paying me enough to live comfortably without having to work a job, the long-term "fulfillment" probably wouldn't trump the short-term convenience of staying home. Again, some kind of small basic guarantee is one thing, but a large amount that makes work completely optional is just asking for trouble.

But it wouldn't be necessarily "comfortable", just enough to get by. And people will always want more money, won't they?
They can receive this handout as long as another member of their family is providing their income. So, a perfectly well-off housewife could receive this as long as her husband provides the majority of their income.

Yeah, sorry. I got off on the tangent of UBI, but at least UBI has merits. Deus is right—the proposal at hand may have good intentions, but it will be so easily abused and in many circumstances we would be paying for people to live comfortably. We're basically subsidizing Ann Romney's maid.

I think we all got off on the UBI tangent there - that's what my comment was. As I hope to have implied earlier I have my doubts about this proposal, to put it generously. Should we just convert this into a UBI debate?
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1924 House and Senate Vote on: July 31, 2014, 06:52:24 pm
Underwheeler! Fun fact guys if we elect Underwood he dies and the VP becomes President.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Wages for Housework Act on: July 31, 2014, 08:15:09 am
I'd work, for one, and I'm sure you would, Mr. Hagrid.

I'm not so sure. If the state was paying me enough to live comfortably without having to work a job, the long-term "fulfillment" probably wouldn't trump the short-term convenience of staying home. Again, some kind of small basic guarantee is one thing, but a large amount that makes work completely optional is just asking for trouble.

But it wouldn't be necessarily "comfortable", just enough to get by. And people will always want more money, won't they?
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Would you be disappointed if your son... on: July 30, 2014, 08:12:41 pm
Getting the gays in on this whole series, but not the lesbians because I'm lazy and don't want to make two polls.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: No Problem But You Pay It Act (Final vote) on: July 30, 2014, 08:08:06 pm
The fact that you don't care that people are being denied their right to exist as who they actually are by way of not having the money to pay for this kind of operation is kind of troubling.

I think what Goldwater is trying to ask is that if gender is indeed a social construct, why must biological sex play into the discussion at all? It's a question I often have myself, but I would probably err on the side of caution and vote against this bill.

Gender's not a social construct, though. That's why we have trans people. Y'all can read about that boy whose circumcision went wrong and so his parents raised him as a girl but he went back to being a man in his teens; I can't quite remember his name.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Wages for Housework Act on: July 30, 2014, 08:04:39 pm
I'd work, for one, and I'm sure you would, Mr. Hagrid.
7  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to Ban Hilfy on: July 30, 2014, 08:01:16 pm
Popping in to play possible-anti-Semite's advocate here: DFB, I have seen Mr. Hifly display some economically left-wing views. That said, he's still scum.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Smack Ain't Whack Act of 2014 on: July 30, 2014, 09:26:36 am
So what penalties do drug users face?

None. Hard drug use is decriminalized, soft drug use is fully legal.

That system sounds perfect IMHO.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: End McCarthyism Once and For All Act of 2014 (Debating) on: July 30, 2014, 09:22:26 am
Nay.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: July 29, 2014, 11:41:35 pm
I will run for reelection in the next general at-large Senate election.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Smack Ain't Whack Act of 2014 on: July 29, 2014, 08:50:56 am
Then Mr. Deus's concern is thrown out.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Attorney General Renumbering Resolution (Final vote) on: July 29, 2014, 08:48:50 am
Aye.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1924 on: July 28, 2014, 08:39:17 pm
Let all brave liberals unite behind Underwheeler!
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Smack Ain't Whack Act of 2014 on: July 28, 2014, 08:35:51 pm
We could resolve the fear-of-being jailed issue by replacing jail with rehab (and perhaps community service if we absolutely must punish drug users, which I'm not the biggest fan of).
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: No Problem But You Pay It Act (Final vote) on: July 28, 2014, 09:13:29 am
AYE

Why do you think trans people should pay through the nose for necessary medical treatment? I'm surprised, Sen. Goldwater, especially with your social score and alleged libertarian views.

Because I consider it an elective surgery and think that people should pay for their own elective surgeries. I realize that both of those views are outside of the mainstream here and honestly I don't really care much about this issues, but there you go.

I admire your honesty, Senator, but do you know any trans people? Do you know what it's like to be transgender? Because it seems to me like the answers to those questions are no.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this presidential rankings on: July 28, 2014, 01:53:55 am
Overrated
About Right
Underrated

This guy ranked the presidents for the 4th of July.

43. James Buchanan
41. Andrew Johnson
40. Franklin Pierce


Do you seriously believe James "Let the Civil War happen for sh**ts and giggles" Buchanan, Andrew "ed up Reconstruction" Johnson, and Franklin "Literally supported the Confederacy" Pierce are not bottom-5 material? If so, who is and why are they worse than those three?
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Explain the following on: July 27, 2014, 11:15:45 pm
Welfare dependency retards IQ

...What? Are you actually a) saying that receiving welfare makes you stupid and b) implying that IQ scores are a half-decent measure of intelligence?
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Article of Impeachment Against Associate Justice Torie on: July 27, 2014, 05:28:12 pm
If the honorable Pres. Duke is correct (and I'm sure he is), I don't think Justice Torie should be impeached over this. He's a good man.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: No Problem But You Pay It Act (Final vote) on: July 27, 2014, 05:25:56 pm
AYE

Why do you think trans people should pay through the nose for necessary medical treatment? I'm surprised, Sen. Goldwater, especially with your social score and alleged libertarian views.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1924 Primaries on: July 26, 2014, 04:53:27 pm
Smith-merger-Walsh runoff?
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: No Problem But You Pay It Act (Final vote) on: July 26, 2014, 12:20:14 pm
Nay (appalled (normal)).
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Working Class Holidays Act of 2014 (Debating) on: July 26, 2014, 12:17:45 pm
The Seattle strike and St. Louis commune aren't especially important/well-known events outside of labor circles. Perhaps we could replace those two with Pullman Strike Day?
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Smack Ain't Whack Act of 2014 on: July 26, 2014, 12:14:52 pm
I never thought I'd say this, but I agree entirely with Sens. Lumine and Yankee. Perhaps we could amend this to include only the softer drugs (LSD, shrooms, etc.)? Or are those all already legal?
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Wages for Housework Act on: July 26, 2014, 12:11:03 pm
Thank you for your contribution, Mr. Napoleon, sir.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Smack Ain't Whack Act of 2014 on: July 25, 2014, 10:48:20 am
(Internet sucks here, so my participation will be reduced for the next week or so. I'll still try to respond though.)
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