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1676  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: March 2014 At-Large Special Senate Election - ELECTION TRACKER on: March 28, 2014, 08:00:09 pm
I'm afraid Simfan is shaping up to be the winner in the early hours of voting.
1677  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bad time to be a Democrat on: March 28, 2014, 03:00:03 pm
Of course Democrats will say you are wrong x_x

Because we're right.

That's an awfully coincided comment.

That sentence makes literally no sense - the proper word is "conceited". And we are correct, as stated by many others to whom Reaganfan has yet to respond.
1678  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which Drugs should be legal for personal use? (III) on: March 28, 2014, 02:57:11 pm
Ludes are those lemon things from Wolf of Wall Street, right?
1679  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: 2014 Selfie Creepfest/Post a picture of yourself thread on: March 28, 2014, 02:55:51 pm
Liking the shirt there, Hockey.
1680  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of Federal Elections: Homelycooking, SoFE on: March 28, 2014, 02:54:22 pm
If homely is wanting to leave, we shouldn't hold him hear if doesn't want to do the job. And that's not against him: he's done a wonderful job as SoFE. However, if we need someone new, we should start that search, and I think butafly is a good candidate for that role.

As I read this I was thinking "who the hell is this newbie talking like he knows everything?" and then I was like "oh it's maxwell" so you should go back to being an I-OK.
1681  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alfred 5 Senate: People Over Politics But Below Money: Ask Me Literally Anything on: March 28, 2014, 02:34:01 pm
Go Alfred! Go get that seat!

Woo! *does more LSD* Oh god the spiders are everywhere
1682  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Poirot for at large special on: March 28, 2014, 02:32:58 pm
I support your support for research and space program funding, though I'm not sure why a reduction in Senators' terms would be needed - for one, it shakes up our every-two-month system.

A shorter term is to make it easier for those elected to serve a full term being active. With a term not as long it can be easier for someone to commit to the game, easier to see in the short term if you have the time (real life schedule and events), not lose interest. If somethings happens that makes a senator less active or want to give up, the senator has only a few weeks to wait and exit instead of resigning. It also gives more people a chance to become a senator with more elections (could be a higher rotation). 

I suppose you're right, though I think the status quo is fine - it's not like this is a problem that presses upon our national interest.
1683  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of JCL on: March 28, 2014, 02:31:37 pm
What policies do you think are neglected? Banning homosexuality and instituting a flat tax because Exodus said so?

Ending Atlasian sanctions against Israel and utilizing our vast energy supply to wean Europe off Russia and us off the Middle East.

I don't want to ban homosexuality. Just "gay marriage". On tax policy you need to look at what I've proposed a little bit further. My Detroit Plan is a flattened version of the Clinton era Tax rates.

Israel deserves to be sanctioned at least a little bit for their occupation of Palestine. And what energy would you use to gain energy independence? Oil and natural gas or wind and solar or both? And why would you ban gay civil unions (we abolished government recognition of marriage a while ago) for a non-religious reason (remember, we don't do things based on religion here)? And what programs would you cut to make up for the revenue decrease your tax plan would bring?

It's Israel's land. The Palestinians need to assimilate. Read the book The Israeli Solution for a better understanding on how it works.  My energy policy is all of the above with further emphasis on oil/natural gas.  

It's not programs that get cut it's one program. Fritzcare. The government is getting out of the healthcare business.

1. It's not Israel's land. They stole it in 1967.

2. Why the emphasis on non-renewable resources?

3. Would you leave the poor to die on the street?

1. No they won it in a just war. The Arab countries attacked them because the Arabs wanted to in the words of Fmr. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, "Drive them into the sea" and the Arab nations got soundly beaten. Call it spoils of war or divine mandate but Israel is the legal and rightful sovereign of that land. They are not an illegal occupier.

2. That's what our European friends need. If we're gonna not gonna use it shouldn't we sale it to those who would while we retain rights on the land.

3. The poor wouldn't be left to die. Private medical savings accounts would come into play in matters of healthcare.

1. Israel struck first in the Six Day War (assuming that is the war we're discussing). The spoils of war is a 19th-century idea for a 21st-century world based on fairness and equity, not conquest.

2. How do you know what they want? Are they shunning Atlasian wind and solar?

3. What if private insurance and MSAs aren't enough, as they have proven not to be in that weird alternate universe I visited once (you might like it, it's relatively right-wing).

And we are criticizing your Exodus 23 thing. We also want to know what policies you might support because of Ezekiel 23.

1.  Israel believed they were under severe threat of attack. (Arabs were mounting on all sides)

2. I honestly don't know how Atlasian wind power could help Europe. Solar can because haven't we gave them many of our ideas regarding solar panel technology. I'm not shunning them

3. I didn't say my ideas are perfect but the current format is tantamount to socialized medicine and that simply is immoral.

Ezekiel 23, it's a parable useful for individual and national morality. However I have no policy ideas that are inspired from this passage of scripture.

1. That doesn't give them the right to conquer other nations' land. If Canada were making threatening moves towards Atlasia, I wouldn't support taking over British Columbia as a preemptive measure.

2. I'm not up on European-Atlasian solar ideas trade, but if we are giving them ideas, hen why don't we tell them how to wind?

3. Really? Not being able to start up a private insurance company (which I'm not even sure is part of the law) is worse than thousands of people dying for lack of medical care? And don't say that's a hypothetical, because there is proof that that would happen in a nation without universal health care.

Furthermore, are your emissions like that of a stallion?
1684  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: March 2014 At-Large Special Senate Election on: March 28, 2014, 02:27:58 pm
1. Alfred
2. Simfan
1685  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee on: March 28, 2014, 02:26:09 pm
So there is still no Labor candidate who is running in the Special Election?

There is now! Also, welcome to the best party ever!

Also, I'd strongly consider abstaining if Snowstalker was the nominee (then again, I don't know if your positions on Atlasia are the same as your positions off of it).
What great news! Atlasia is looking into a shining bright future!

Damn right son! Looking forward to another two-week term as At-Large Senator (although the polls seem to be saying otherwise)!
Those polls are made of extreme fascist right-wingers, who just fear a victory of the right candidate, and want to make you unsure! Never believe them, or you have already lost! Fight your fight against extreme right-wing policies and fascists!

Thank you for the kind words. Now go vote, young man!

Not sure those words are so kind when you're calling the opposition fascists willy nilly.

That was meant to be a joke, but I'm sorry if I have offended you or someone else. Just a joke, really. I know you aren't fascists Smiley

Most of them, anyway Wink.
1686  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee on: March 28, 2014, 02:15:57 pm
So there is still no Labor candidate who is running in the Special Election?

There is now! Also, welcome to the best party ever!

Also, I'd strongly consider abstaining if Snowstalker was the nominee (then again, I don't know if your positions on Atlasia are the same as your positions off of it).
What great news! Atlasia is looking into a shining bright future!

Damn right son! Looking forward to another two-week term as At-Large Senator (although the polls seem to be saying otherwise)!
Those polls are made of extreme fascist right-wingers, who just fear a victory of the right candidate, and want to make you unsure! Never believe them, or you have already lost! Fight your fight against extreme right-wing policies and fascists!

Thank you for the kind words. Now go vote, young man!
1687  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of Federal Elections: Homelycooking, SoFE on: March 28, 2014, 02:15:20 pm
Homely is what keeps Atlasia together. I honestly don't know what we'd do without him.
1688  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alfred 5 Senate: People Over Politics But Below Money: Ask Me Literally Anything on: March 28, 2014, 02:14:19 pm
All right, folks, it's time to get out and fight the good fight! Let's honor Sen. Mr. X's memory and send another progressive to the Senate!
1689  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1884 Conventions on: March 28, 2014, 02:13:07 pm
I'd be up for whatever stops another Union president from being elected. It gets boring when those keep getting elected time and time again.

All right, then. Weaver/Smith if the Whigs get more votes and Smith/Weaver (or Harrison?) if the Radicals get more votes?

Also, I note that our parties are drifting closer and closer together in political views. Perhaps a merger is in order? The People's Party, perhaps?
1690  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Calvinism Is Back on: March 28, 2014, 02:05:46 pm
The extent to which Calvinism is 'back' is also the extent to which it was never really gone. I don't think the size or influence of mainline Calvinist denominations has really fluctuated all that much in recent years (DC Al Fine or Mung Beans or somebody can correct me on this if I'm wrong about that), and as Tweed mentioned generalized conservative evangelicalism is prone to a sort of cyclical theological faddishness.

There's a cycle between Calvinism and Arminianism within the Baptist movement. Calvinism is definitely on the upswing right now. You're right though. There isn't any massive growth in the Reformed faith. We're growing yes, but it's slow.

The way I understand it, God, in Calvinism, simply plays Duck, Duck, Goose with people ("You go to Heaven, you go to Heaven, you go to Hell, you go to Heaven..."), and we can do literally nothing to influence His decision in one way or the other. I'm not trying to be a dick, but what exactly draws people to Calvinism? Is it the idea that you can commit as many sins as you want, because you just may be one of the Elect, and, if you're not, you had a good run anyway? I'm very curious.
I'm sure that is a part of it to some degree, but Calvinism has many other ideas (democracy within the church, etc) that is not within Lutheranism (the Lutheran Church has a bishop system).
Another is that I expect that the people drawn to Calvinism are likely to believe that they are part of the elect and aren't particularly looking for a "get out of Hell free" card to commit as many sins as they want .  One of the attractive features of Calvinism compared to Arminianism is that you don't have to worry about falling out of grace.  God won't let you do that.

I'm a bit surprised by socialisthoosier's criticism. Usually we're attacked for being Puritan prudes Wink. Ernest is correct though, election and perseverance of the saints are the most comforting parts of our theology.

How do we know who the elect are?

We don't know. Well, you can know your own salvation, but it's not like I can tell who is saved or who is damned.

If you know you're going to heaven, why not kill yourself and get it over with?
1691  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bad time to be a Democrat on: March 28, 2014, 06:41:53 am
Of course Democrats will say you are wrong x_x

Because we're right.
1692  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of Federal Elections: Homelycooking, SoFE on: March 27, 2014, 11:03:58 pm
Assuming my recent move to Maine is legal, you should change that. JCL and Poirot have declared as well, though I'm not sure if there's a deadline or whatever.
1693  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: March 27, 2014, 10:57:17 pm
Assuming this is legal:

Alfred F. Jones
Labor
Maine
1694  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Previous Poster's Signature Thread on: March 27, 2014, 10:55:56 pm
Unacceptability levels reaching critical point.
1695  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1884 Conventions on: March 27, 2014, 10:42:01 pm
Harrison's tied with Smith. If he wins the Radical nomination, I suggest we all rally behind him and the VP of Zioneer's choice.
1696  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather read The Obamanation's posting history or "Finnegans Wake"? on: March 27, 2014, 10:40:06 pm
Finnegan's Wake is a book with a continuing plotline, I would be very confused reading Obamanation's posting history with no context, it would be very confusing.

That doesn't change that the Twilight series has more literary value than Finnegans Wake.

Neither Meyer nor Joyce won the Nobel Prize, so they've got that in common?
I haven't won a Nobel Prize for my posting history either, so I guess all three of us have that in common.

Well hypothetically a million monkeys with typewriters would eventually type out a Nobel Prize winning work.

To get something of equivalent value to your posting history would require 999,999 less monkeys.

They tried that. The monkeys just typed the letter s over and over and sh**t everywhere.
1697  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Calvinism Is Back on: March 27, 2014, 10:37:08 pm
The extent to which Calvinism is 'back' is also the extent to which it was never really gone. I don't think the size or influence of mainline Calvinist denominations has really fluctuated all that much in recent years (DC Al Fine or Mung Beans or somebody can correct me on this if I'm wrong about that), and as Tweed mentioned generalized conservative evangelicalism is prone to a sort of cyclical theological faddishness.

There's a cycle between Calvinism and Arminianism within the Baptist movement. Calvinism is definitely on the upswing right now. You're right though. There isn't any massive growth in the Reformed faith. We're growing yes, but it's slow.

The way I understand it, God, in Calvinism, simply plays Duck, Duck, Goose with people ("You go to Heaven, you go to Heaven, you go to Hell, you go to Heaven..."), and we can do literally nothing to influence His decision in one way or the other. I'm not trying to be a dick, but what exactly draws people to Calvinism? Is it the idea that you can commit as many sins as you want, because you just may be one of the Elect, and, if you're not, you had a good run anyway? I'm very curious.
I'm sure that is a part of it to some degree, but Calvinism has many other ideas (democracy within the church, etc) that is not within Lutheranism (the Lutheran Church has a bishop system).
Another is that I expect that the people drawn to Calvinism are likely to believe that they are part of the elect and aren't particularly looking for a "get out of Hell free" card to commit as many sins as they want .  One of the attractive features of Calvinism compared to Arminianism is that you don't have to worry about falling out of grace.  God won't let you do that.

I'm a bit surprised by socialisthoosier's criticism. Usually we're attacked for being Puritan prudes Wink. Ernest is correct though, election and perseverance of the saints are the most comforting parts of our theology.

How do we know who the elect are?
1698  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1884 Conventions on: March 27, 2014, 10:36:38 pm
The Whigs have more votes than the Radicals, and I think James Weaver would be an acceptable candidate for the Radicals. How about Weaver/Smith?
1699  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of JCL on: March 27, 2014, 10:31:58 pm
What policies do you think are neglected? Banning homosexuality and instituting a flat tax because Exodus said so?

Ending Atlasian sanctions against Israel and utilizing our vast energy supply to wean Europe off Russia and us off the Middle East.

I don't want to ban homosexuality. Just "gay marriage". On tax policy you need to look at what I've proposed a little bit further. My Detroit Plan is a flattened version of the Clinton era Tax rates.

Israel deserves to be sanctioned at least a little bit for their occupation of Palestine. And what energy would you use to gain energy independence? Oil and natural gas or wind and solar or both? And why would you ban gay civil unions (we abolished government recognition of marriage a while ago) for a non-religious reason (remember, we don't do things based on religion here)? And what programs would you cut to make up for the revenue decrease your tax plan would bring?

It's Israel's land. The Palestinians need to assimilate. Read the book The Israeli Solution for a better understanding on how it works.  My energy policy is all of the above with further emphasis on oil/natural gas. 

It's not programs that get cut it's one program. Fritzcare. The government is getting out of the healthcare business.

1. It's not Israel's land. They stole it in 1967.

2. Why the emphasis on non-renewable resources?

3. Would you leave the poor to die on the street?

1. No they won it in a just war. The Arab countries attacked them because the Arabs wanted to in the words of Fmr. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, "Drive them into the sea" and the Arab nations got soundly beaten. Call it spoils of war or divine mandate but Israel is the legal and rightful sovereign of that land. They are not an illegal occupier.

2. That's what our European friends need. If we're gonna not gonna use it shouldn't we sale it to those who would while we retain rights on the land.

3. The poor wouldn't be left to die. Private medical savings accounts would come into play in matters of healthcare.

1. Israel struck first in the Six Day War (assuming that is the war we're discussing). The spoils of war is a 19th-century idea for a 21st-century world based on fairness and equity, not conquest.

2. How do you know what they want? Are they shunning Atlasian wind and solar?

3. What if private insurance and MSAs aren't enough, as they have proven not to be in that weird alternate universe I visited once (you might like it, it's relatively right-wing).

And we are criticizing your Exodus 23 thing. We also want to know what policies you might support because of Ezekiel 23.
1700  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Ideas Pledge on: March 27, 2014, 10:25:51 pm
I, Alfred, promise to promote the smart and productive discussion of ideas during my time in office. I will, during the campaign, develop a fully fleshed out position on an issue. I will become informed and somewhat of an expert on that issue and publish my informed opinion to this thread, titled 'The Ideas Pledge.' This, I swear. So help me Dave.

Hopefully I can do this in the 40 minutes left. BTW, what's the federal minimum wage?
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