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1676  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Presidential Election on: June 26, 2014, 11:27:19 pm
Bump.
1677  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Ukrainian Technical, Economical and Military Aid (Debating) on: June 26, 2014, 08:02:37 pm
Nay.
1678  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: End War Profiteering Act of 2014 (At Final Vote) on: June 26, 2014, 08:02:09 pm
Nay.
1679  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Emergency Resolution to Authorize Force in Iraq (Debating) on: June 26, 2014, 07:58:15 pm
Motion to table.

We have no business in Iraq.

Do we have business anywhere outside of Atlasia?
1680  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of SomebodyWhoExists on: June 26, 2014, 11:16:58 am
Me gusta.
1681  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Same sex marriage is very close to achieving a majority of electoral votes. on: June 25, 2014, 08:54:25 pm
it's sucking up all the liberal oxygen, so nobody is thinking about other issues.

That's not how issues work. Go back to issue school.
1682  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If you could add any one President to Mt. Rushmore... on: June 25, 2014, 06:18:36 pm
Probably Polk.

Also, maybe take Lincoln off and put Jefferson Davis up there? Hey, Davis was a president...

Please leave the Party of LINCOLN now.  Please and thanks.

States of the Confederacy provided Romney with 118 of his 206 electoral votes. Sorry bud, but this ain't the party of Lincoln anymore.

You say that as if it is somehow, in any way fathomable, historically or politically, a good thing.

Seriously...  Look at how the fellow Republicans have responded to this Confederate hack...  Go be a Democrat like your racist ancestors.

As a Democrat, we'd rather not have him either.
1683  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tenth Circuit: Gay marriage protected by the Constitution on: June 25, 2014, 05:58:49 pm
And why would they choose the hypothetical names Gilda and Mavis?
1684  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Public means Public Act (On the President's Desk) on: June 25, 2014, 05:19:59 pm
I can't say I like what the President has done to this bill and I'd rather just have DemPGH pass it, so unless convinced otherwise I'll be voting no on the redraft in order to introduce it under a more favorable administration..
1685  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Presidential Election on: June 25, 2014, 04:28:10 pm
Fun fact: I just realized North Carolina didn't secede the first time around ITL Tongue

Yeah, the original secession was weird. What should the new Confederacy be?

Hmm...SC, GE, FL, AL, MS, TX, AR, TN, and just for fun, let's throw in a hopelessly isolated West Virginia and Delaware.  Secessionist conventions fail in NC, VA, MD, MO, KY, and LA.  It secedes from Virginia too after secession narrowly failed there.  The North Carolinians would probably be exiles.  The capitol should be Atlanta, that much is certain.

Really? Why do you think they'd fail in NC and LA?

Actually, they'd probably succeed in NC, as I think about it.  Louisiana has always had a weird and complicated racial hierarchy relative to the rest of the South.  In most of the South it seems like not white meant you were black.  In Louisiana, they took all the non-sense about 1/8 vs. 1/4 vs. 1/12 black very seriously, IIRC.  I feel like they'd be somewhat less fire-eatery in their racism at this point in the timeline (well, other than the Cajun areas, but that always struck me as more of "We have to be above someone on the totem-pole" than anything else").  I could be way off, but that's my understanding.

OK, I'll defer to your judgment. And are we considering Stone Mountain as a suburb of Atlanta? I like the KKK symbolism there.
1686  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Presidential Election on: June 25, 2014, 02:49:46 pm
Fun fact: I just realized North Carolina didn't secede the first time around ITL Tongue

Yeah, the original secession was weird. What should the new Confederacy be?

Hmm...SC, GE, FL, AL, MS, TX, AR, TN, and just for fun, let's throw in a hopelessly isolated West Virginia and Delaware.  Secessionist conventions fail in NC, VA, MD, MO, KY, and LA.  It secedes from Virginia too after secession narrowly failed there.  The North Carolinians would probably be exiles.  The capitol should be Atlanta, that much is certain.

Really? Why do you think they'd fail in NC and LA?
1687  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Presidential Election on: June 25, 2014, 02:31:22 pm
Fun fact: I just realized North Carolina didn't secede the first time around ITL Tongue

Yeah, the original secession was weird. What should the new Confederacy be?
1688  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Presidential Election on: June 25, 2014, 02:18:13 pm
If no one is dominating such that Malcolm and I determine that they win, we'll have a runoff.
1689  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Presidential Election on: June 25, 2014, 02:12:27 pm
Wuh?

Bubba Comer I guess.

What did you expect when a President elected with less than a quarter of the vote decides to send federal troops into the South?

I'm debating between Blease, Watson, Simmons, and Bilbo myself.
1690  General Politics / Individual Politics / 1913 Confederate Presidential Election on: June 25, 2014, 01:59:28 pm
(All of the candidates are former-Populists because  you, that's why. They don't technically have any political parties though. They're also all crazy racist unless otherwise stated.)

The election of 1912 was one of the most controversial in US history, with third-place finisher Oscar Underwood taking advantage of the FLP’s old majorities to claw through two rounds of congressional voting despite taking under a quarter of the popular vote, and many would not stand for this. The first serious rumblings of anti-Underwood sentiment came from the Populist-dominated South, where the members of said party had walked out on the House vote in a nice show of solidarity that did little but helping Underwood win some Southern states, but tensions were brought to a high when Underwood’s massive expansion of the Reed Brigade came into effect, sweeping through the South to destroy the Ku Klux Klan once and for all. While Underwood did enjoy some temporary success with his efforts (his proudest achievement being the arrest and imprisonment of the mob that killed Jewish factory manager Leo Frank, which included several prominent Georgians), no one could have imagined the backlash that was to come. Tensions rose throughout his presidency and boiled over when, on July 4, 1913, an event occurred that came to be known as the Stone Mountain Massacre: a battalion of Reed Brigade troops attempted to disperse a massive Klan ritual ceremony, and the Klansmen responded with violence; in the ensuing chaos, seventeen Klansmen (including Congressman James F. Byrnes) and three National Guardsmen were killed, and the South decided she could not take it anymore. Declaring “an end to the tyranny of the usurper in Washington”, Tom Watson led the charge for secession, with Georgia becoming the first state of the new Confederacy of American States; many other states of the old Confederacy followed suit as well as a few more just for kicks. Underwood has promised to "bring the traitorous scum to heel", but the Confederates aren't listening. But now, alas, comes the post-celebration hassle of electing a leader, a spiritual successor of sorts to John Tyler but hopefully more effective at actually running things.

The eight men who have presented themselves before the hastily-chosen Confederate Congress for a chance to live in infamy in all future APUSH textbooks are as follows. Watson, the original architect of secession, is the clear frontrunner, having been the founder of the Populist Party and one of the first to call for impeachment of Underwood (the cries for impeachment died down significantly after 99% of the Southern delegation decided to take their ball and go home), and also having had some handy executive experience in his two years as Georgia Governor. Behind him is the least legitimate President in the history of the nation, Marion Butler, who is pretty much by definition the highest official to endorse the Confederacy, as well as Butler's fellow Tarheeler Furnifold Simmons, nicknamed King Furnifold I for his grip on the state's political machine; Simmons was a great enemy of Zebulon Vance back when the latter was governor.

Down deeper into the South we find a due of Mississippi Governors: lynch-happy Jim Vardaman, an also-ran in the Populist primary a while back, and rising star Theodore Bilbo, who is noted for his rather eccentric personality (he prefers to refer to himself in the third person) and the fact that he's so racist he literally wrote a book about how black people are taking over America. Rounding out the candidates are the not-as-racist-as-the-others Joseph F. Johnston, who is running as the voice of moderation in the field, the wealthy Braxton Bragg Comer, who owns a ton of businesses and is named after a little-known Confederate army officer who was hanged in 1840, and finally Coleman L. Blease, who hates Coca-Cola almost as much as he hates black people.

You have three days. Vote, my pretties, vote!
1691  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1912 House Vote Round Two on: June 25, 2014, 10:06:49 am
Two-hours-left bump.
1692  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Demilitarization Act of 2014 (Amendment at Vote) on: June 25, 2014, 10:05:15 am
Changing vote to Nay.
1693  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Five and a half years from now. on: June 23, 2014, 08:37:33 pm
It's OK Jerry I support your dreams.
1694  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of John Brown on: June 23, 2014, 07:18:44 pm
I'm not sure y'all realize this, but the people John Brown fought against literally owned other people.

The American slave system was one of the worst programs of actions in history, and I'm perfectly fine with using violence against the perpetrators of that system and those who fought to keep it in place.
1695  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Demilitarization Act of 2014 (Amendment at Vote) on: June 23, 2014, 07:12:51 pm
Aye.
1696  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of former Libertarian Atlasians on: June 23, 2014, 06:22:33 pm
If by "former Libertarian Atlasians" you mean "20RP12", HP.
1697  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Demilitarization Act of 2014 (Debating) on: June 23, 2014, 02:30:15 pm
Really, TNF? I'm not that big a fan of conscription, and I know you aren't either. I say we just abolish the whole thing.

Iobject to the amendment, if that is permitted.
1698  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Windjammer senators vote ratings on: June 23, 2014, 02:25:41 pm
I like this...
1699  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1912 House Vote Round Two on: June 23, 2014, 05:50:18 am
Bump.
1700  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What makes you Angry :( ? on: June 22, 2014, 08:57:57 pm
Shouldn't you be letting go of earthly attachments?
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