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1676  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - GLORY RESTORED on: April 04, 2014, 02:05:17 pm
Nice to see that I sort of cast the deciding preference for Alfred. Thank God we don't have the libertarian in the senate.

I'm almost at the point of full regret
Regarding victory and your aid in't,
But only almost. And remember that
Since the election went down to the wire,
A near majority of us could say that they
Did cast the Senator-deciding vote.

Then you should resign your seat and I'll remember to vote for your opponent next time.

I didn't say "completely", friend, just "almost";
I don't intend to quit while I'm ahead
Because your social views appall me so,
E'en though you seem to now regret your vote.
1677  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Resolution Regarding Resignations (Debating) on: April 04, 2014, 05:43:43 am
Well then, I guess I will support this bill.
1678  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1884 U.S. Presidential Election on: April 03, 2014, 11:24:42 pm
What's up with the Cleveland love? He seems to be twice as popular as Cassius Clay ever was. Also, I guess we shouldn't have gone with Harrison/Smith, though apparently it wouldn't have mattered because Cleveland is the new Reagan.

Haven't you heard? Forum Republicans suck Grover Cleveland's cock.
1679  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: An Actual End to Imperialism Act (At Final Vote) on: April 03, 2014, 11:00:25 pm
Nay.
1680  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Charles Koch sick of lowly 'collectivists' calling him out on: April 03, 2014, 10:15:19 pm
Kochtopus sounds like a hentai about the right-wing establishment.
1681  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: opinion of this cheat sheet for a math situation on: April 03, 2014, 10:10:22 pm
Actually the "new" method in the cheat sheet is a much older method than what I expect most of us used to learn addition. It's the math of the abacus familiar to the Chinese, Greeks and Romans. It was still being used by the Russians when they beat the US to space. It's the math used in mechanical calculators, and leads to faster math performance with practice. It especially leads to improved skill at estimation which becomes more important as we have access to electronic calculators to do more precise operations.

I'm not sure about you, but the "new" method is the way I learned math. We just didn't write out the whole 62 = 60 + 2 when we were doing problems, we just had the teacher explain to us and had the understanding that that was what we were doing.
1682  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should NASA's budget be increased? on: April 03, 2014, 10:07:16 pm
Moon colonies are fools good. We should go straight to Mars, and there's a decent chance we will in the next 10 years. The question is will it be done haphazardly with no governmental oversight by corporations, or in a orderly fair manner by NASA and its foreign equivalents.

Mars has long been uninhabitable, and that's a fact. Was inhabitable maybe millions, billions of years ago? Yes, but since then it's simply not going to work.

Somebody said that it couldn’t be done
      But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
      Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
      On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
      That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

Somebody scoffed: “Oh, you’ll never do that;
      At least no one ever has done it;”
But he took off his coat and he took off his hat
      And the first thing we knew he’d begun it.
With a lift of his chin and a bit of a grin,
      Without any doubting or quiddit,
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
      That couldn’t be done, and he did it.

There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
      There are thousands to prophesy failure,
There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
      The dangers that wait to assail you.
But just buckle in with a bit of a grin,
      Just take off your coat and go to it;
Just start in to sing as you tackle the thing
      That “cannot be done,” and you’ll do it.

- Edgar Albert Guest
1683  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Best DC Ward on: April 03, 2014, 09:51:31 pm
Why is this in International Discussion?

Because Congresscritters aren't real Americans.
1684  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Batman? on: April 03, 2014, 09:50:25 pm
Whiny 1%er emo kid who has everything but still can't be happy.  Superman is a lot more entertaining.

Except, you know, parents.
1685  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Contract Modernization and Continuity Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 03, 2014, 09:46:03 pm
I probably ought to have stated this before,
But I would like to give this my support.
1686  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is the labor party one of the worst left wing parties in Atlasian history? on: April 03, 2014, 09:39:34 pm
I encourage all revolutionary socialist critics of the corrupt and imperialist Lie-bor party to join the Left Front.

How dare you call us by that awful word?
"Imperialist" falls dreadful on our ears
As powerless you scream it from your lips,
Your mother's basement echoing the shouts.
1687  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Resolution Regarding Resignations (Debating) on: April 03, 2014, 09:34:21 pm
What is the current situation of
The matter Mr. Tyrion does wish
To change via the passage of this bill?
1688  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Consistency in Drug Enforcement Bill (Amendment at Vote) on: April 03, 2014, 09:33:14 pm
Aye.

If jail time's not supported, then we can
Change up the law for all the drugs upon
Our passing of this bill: pot, alcohol,
The works (a bill which I would most support).
1689  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Resolution on the 2014 Crimean Crisis (Amendment Vote) on: April 03, 2014, 09:31:07 pm
I iterate my good will towards this.
1690  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Xahar Memorial 2nd repeal of useless law Act (At Final Vote) on: April 03, 2014, 09:30:27 pm
Aye.
1691  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should NASA's budget be increased? on: April 03, 2014, 09:28:09 pm
snip

In some words, yes - the entirety of government is spending each other's money (or not) to fulfill our own highly subjective dreams and ideals about society. And I did mention the myriad innovations that come either directly from or by way of NASA, like freeze-dried food and cochlear implants.

Furthermore, AD, the moon landing came after the Great Society.
NASA doesn't justify its costs.

So who are you a sock of again?
1692  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who on this list deserves to be banned most? on: April 03, 2014, 07:25:00 pm
The one who uses the phrase "filthy slut".
1693  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Falling linked to death of Colorado student on: April 03, 2014, 07:23:24 pm
Fixed.
1694  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should NASA's budget be increased? on: April 03, 2014, 07:22:33 pm
If anyone can justify why NASA should even exist, let alone have its budget doubled because MUH SPACE I'd be happy to listen.

The numerous innovations they create alone are enough to justify a funding increase in my view. Furthermore, I don't like the way you so casually dismiss space exploration as a way to get points among the cynical crowd as you hate on people who want to explore the universe and get answers. Would you have opposed the Homestead Act because of "MUH WEST"?

Right, but by that logic we should be praying for a third world war since plenty of side-innovations come out of that. Focusing on tangential possible benefits isn't convincing.

Please, Oak, you're better than this.

Starry-eyed (sorry) talk about "exploring the universe" or whatever isn't good justification for spending billions of dollars as far as I'm concerned - what are we exploring? Does it make a tangible difference to anyone's life if we know that there's a certain type of rock on the moon? Particularly when the private sector space industry is rapidly becoming a thing...

If we don't have stars in our eyes, then what will fill the void? Dust and dirt and the inexorable creep of the rising oceans? That new rock we find on the moon could power our civilization for decades to come as the human race spreads itself out among the stars. And billions of dollars is nothing to the United States budget, especially when it helps to increase our knowledge of the universe and our place in it - unlike you, I am a believer in the idea of knowledge for knowledge's sake, and that seems to be the point where we differ, going our separate ways as the cynical apathete and the idealistic (for idealism is what got us where we are today) dreamer. Without dreams, we wouldn't have anything to strive for.

In other words, you want the government to spend other peoples' money to fulfill your own (highly subjective) dreams and ideals about space?

In some words, yes - the entirety of government is spending each other's money (or not) to fulfill our own highly subjective dreams and ideals about society. And I did mention the myriad innovations that come either directly from or by way of NASA, like freeze-dried food and cochlear implants.

Furthermore, AD, the moon landing came after the Great Society.
1695  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should NASA's budget be increased? on: April 03, 2014, 03:38:58 pm
If anyone can justify why NASA should even exist, let alone have its budget doubled because MUH SPACE I'd be happy to listen.

Markets don't handle R&D particularly well. Before government competence was murdered by implementing and expanding The Great Society, our government did R&D quite well.

Shut up about the Great Society, and stop capitalizing the "the". It's not The Great Gatsby set in 1965 and starring Lyndon Johnson, though I would pay good money for that.
1696  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NC election officials identify hundreds of potential voter fraud cases on: April 03, 2014, 03:10:52 pm
So we should have a federal voter registry?
1697  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should NASA's budget be increased? on: April 03, 2014, 03:06:30 pm
If anyone can justify why NASA should even exist, let alone have its budget doubled because MUH SPACE I'd be happy to listen.

The numerous innovations they create alone are enough to justify a funding increase in my view. Furthermore, I don't like the way you so casually dismiss space exploration as a way to get points among the cynical crowd as you hate on people who want to explore the universe and get answers. Would you have opposed the Homestead Act because of "MUH WEST"?

Right, but by that logic we should be praying for a third world war since plenty of side-innovations come out of that. Focusing on tangential possible benefits isn't convincing.

Please, Oak, you're better than this.

Starry-eyed (sorry) talk about "exploring the universe" or whatever isn't good justification for spending billions of dollars as far as I'm concerned - what are we exploring? Does it make a tangible difference to anyone's life if we know that there's a certain type of rock on the moon? Particularly when the private sector space industry is rapidly becoming a thing...

If we don't have stars in our eyes, then what will fill the void? Dust and dirt and the inexorable creep of the rising oceans? That new rock we find on the moon could power our civilization for decades to come as the human race spreads itself out among the stars. And billions of dollars is nothing to the United States budget, especially when it helps to increase our knowledge of the universe and our place in it - unlike you, I am a believer in the idea of knowledge for knowledge's sake, and that seems to be the point where we differ, going our separate ways as the cynical apathete and the idealistic (for idealism is what got us where we are today) dreamer. Without dreams, we wouldn't have anything to strive for.
1698  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do you think most homosexuals are gay by choice on: April 03, 2014, 02:43:45 pm
Don't be ridiculous.

You do realize in the real world, it's probably the prevalent view, right? 

It's still ridiculous.
1699  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Job Destruction Penalty Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 03, 2014, 02:28:42 pm
Final vote, I guess.

muh private property

muh job creators

muh free enterprise

My friend, you never countered Simfan's points.
I'd like you to respond, if just for me.
1700  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many death points would you guess the preceding poster currently has? on: April 03, 2014, 02:25:32 pm
5 or so.
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