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1676  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The Millennial Generation has produced nothing of note culturally. on: July 03, 2014, 09:28:57 pm
I've heard John Fullbright's quite good.

Also mods please lock.
1677  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Fair Hiring Act of 2014 (Debating) on: July 03, 2014, 03:37:17 pm
The way Section 1 is worded is a bit confusing. To be clear, this would require all employers who have a collective bargaining agreement with a union for any reason, to automatically accept the establishment of a hiring hall, even if said agreement says nothing about that?

No, it would not. It would simply allow the union to make that part of the agreement.
1678  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1916 Primaries on: July 03, 2014, 05:39:31 am
Sheeit. That is dystopic. Sad to see Mac on the bad side of things, but if he's from Arkansas, I guess that's way it had to be. Pretty badass for him to be the major CSA guy this early, though, again, it sucks that he'll be a villain in the history books.

What are the differences between the various Union candidates? Also, how is the party born out of the first Civil War reacting to a second secession? I would hope with bloodlust and vigor. This should be their (literal) call-to-arms.

Everyone except Wilson and Glass support crushing the CAS and winning the war, but the Unionists vary on their civil rights positions (the real debate here is what to do after the war, both w/r/t Reconstruction and in general) - Root's the most pro-civil rights of the bunch, but he's focusing more on economics. Ford's just anti-Semitic, Weeks is an environmentalist, and the other two are pro-civil rights, but less so than Root.

tl;dr if I were you I'd vote for Root or maybe TR if you want to join WWI.

I figured a Civil War would entrench the US in isolationism. However, if the European powers chose to take sides in it, that could be very interesting, especially if a pro-Anglo (like Wilson) or even pro-German (?) President was in office. I could see the Central powers trying to stir up some shyte over here.

At this point, the war's about 85% over. The Confederacy still exists, but most of it has been brought under military control.
1679  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1916 Primaries on: July 02, 2014, 10:25:20 pm
Sheeit. That is dystopic. Sad to see Mac on the bad side of things, but if he's from Arkansas, I guess that's way it had to be. Pretty badass for him to be the major CSA guy this early, though, again, it sucks that he'll be a villain in the history books.

What are the differences between the various Union candidates? Also, how is the party born out of the first Civil War reacting to a second secession? I would hope with bloodlust and vigor. This should be their (literal) call-to-arms.

Everyone except Wilson and Glass support crushing the CAS and winning the war, but the Unionists vary on their civil rights positions (the real debate here is what to do after the war, both w/r/t Reconstruction and in general) - Root's the most pro-civil rights of the bunch, but he's focusing more on economics. Ford's just anti-Semitic, Weeks is an environmentalist, and the other two are pro-civil rights, but less so than Root.

tl;dr if I were you I'd vote for Root or maybe TR if you want to join WWI.
1680  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1916 Primaries on: July 02, 2014, 09:51:27 pm
Son of a bitch, I forgot TR's running as a Bull-Moose, so if you want him say it in a post on the honor system. Feel free to state VP choices for everyone, because Underwood needs one too. Malcolm, if you want to post candidate positions so as to get this underway faster you can do that.

Underwood/John Kern
1681  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Demilitarization Act of 2014 (At Final Vote) on: July 02, 2014, 09:48:07 pm
Aye.
1682  General Politics / Individual Politics / 1916 Primaries on: July 02, 2014, 09:35:03 pm
In the years since the Stars and Bars rose over Atlanta and a terrifying alternate universe-style parallel United States was established, Oscar Underwood's agenda has been occupied almost entirely by the brutal, bloody Second Civil War, as the Union Army fights along two fronts with John J. "Black Jack" Pershing in the west and Leonard Wood in the north, and while the war seems to be nearing its end, there is still fighting to do, especially as Gen. Pershing marches towards Atlanta (a campaign called the "Midnight Train to Georgia" by some) on a collision course with the young Confederate Gen. Douglas MacArthur. With the war almost entirely over, Underwood is being hailed as the greatest President since John Quincy Adams in some FLP circles, and even the most die-hard Unionist has to admit that he's done a decent job. His domestic policy achievements are few and far between, the most significant one being an amendment to the Constitution banning all poll taxes, commonly known as the " You Carter Glass Amendment". However, with the war drawing to a close, many feel the time has come to return to leftist causes alongside the process of Reconstruction, such as the full abolition of child labor and the passage of the income tax (which failed by one state in 1914 and certainly would have passed had the CAS been allowed to vote). Challenging Underwood in this vein is the rather unpopular William Jennings Bryan, who is trying to distract voters from the fact that he ran in the Populist primary that one time by throwing Bibles at them and yelling "Stay out of Europe's war!" and "Bust the trusts now!", which is all very confusing because, for the most part, Underwood supports those positions (albeit not as strongly as the still-fiery Bryan). Woodrow Wilson, easily the most prominent Populist not dead, imprisoned, or in the Confederate government, is attempting to extend an olive branch and maybe go a bit easy on the whole "outlawing the Klan and crushing the Confederacy under the heel of the Union Army's boot" thing, but no one cares about him.

The Unionists are, as always, a bunch of old white guys who love corporations and sh**t, the main one being Elihu Root, who negotiated 24 arbitration treaties that seemed important at the time but are now neglected by historians. He's your run-of-the-mill Unionist: decent on civil rights, horribly right-wing economically, nothing to get excited about or anything. Lawrence Sherman and John W. Weeks are running as single-issue candidates on isolationism and environmentalism, respectively, though Sherman has made some vague pro-civil rights platitudes. Charles Fairbanks is somewhere between Sherman and Root on the civil rights scale, and noted industrialist Henry Ford just really does not like the Jews.

Things are also a bit boring on the BMP side, with the traditional assortment of folks (La Follette, with the same positions as last time, Hughes, with the same positions as a while ago, and Johnson, who seems a bit closer to the FLP than his fellow men (though the two parties are at this point almost indistinguishable ideologically)) as well as Albert Doesn't-Realize-Nobody-Likes-Him Cummins and up-and-coming Progressive isolationist William Borah, the freshman senator from the newly-created state of Idaho. Shunned at the convention to the point of being physically removed from the premises (a task that only required two security guards due to his weakening health), eternal thorn in everyone's side Theodore Roosevelt (referred to derisively as a "ping-pong ball bouncing to and fro among the parties" by at least one newspaper) is attempting to stage a write-in campaign in support of him and, by extension, intervention in all the wars.

Meanwhile, the Populists are down to two members of Congress, none of whom are important at all, and so they're literally just running 1912's ticket against itself in the primary. Glass and Wilson are two sides of the same coin, stating their outright support for recognition of the CAS and the total removal of the now-legendary Reed Brigade. Honestly, no one really cares about them.

I really really promise 1920 will be less boring, OK?
1683  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Runoff on: July 01, 2014, 08:58:30 pm
Though Comer and Bilbo went on to a third round, Comer traded his states for the Vice Presidency and Watson was made Secretary of State as a consolation prize. Hopefully 1916 will be up tomorrow.
1684  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should the previous poster be a mod? on: July 01, 2014, 01:57:37 pm
Is Religion and Philosophy too much of a cop-out?
1685  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the South American Countries on: July 01, 2014, 01:54:49 pm
The first free black republic got HC? Terrible. (as is this poll series)

How did Oldiesfreak get onto your account?
1686  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Runoff on: July 01, 2014, 11:00:57 am
Bump.
1687  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: 2014 Selfie Creepfest/Post a picture of yourself thread on: July 01, 2014, 10:06:05 am
If PAPOY can survive Geesthacht, it can survive the first sparks of true love.
1688  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Constitutional Convention Clarification (Not Voting, Debating.) on: July 01, 2014, 09:57:14 am
My body is ready.
1689  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Public means Public Act (Redraft at Vote) on: July 01, 2014, 09:55:10 am
Nay.
1690  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Income Tax Reform Act of 2014 (Still Debating) on: June 30, 2014, 07:05:47 pm
Nay.
1691  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: ...OSPR Consolidation Amendment (At Final Vote) on: June 30, 2014, 07:03:28 pm
Aye.
1692  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Pope Francis: The communists have stolen our flag on: June 29, 2014, 06:17:39 pm
Come on Francis, communists stopped being the boogyman a years ago. Now terrorists are the boogyman, blame them instead.

I think you're missing the point.

Well, yes, that is his job.
1693  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Summary of Your Political Views. on: June 29, 2014, 05:26:56 pm
Progressive Liberal who hates the gays.

Fixed.
1694  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Sanity in Foreign Policy Amendment (Debating) on: June 29, 2014, 02:33:36 pm
I object to the amendment, because this bill is bulls**t.

The world's greatest deliberative body, folks! Come see Senators force votes on minor technicalities to spite the opposition! Watch as a bill references a section of itself that does not exist!
1695  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Runoff on: June 29, 2014, 02:28:20 pm
Reconstruction was handled rather nicely ITTL - we didn't have Andrew Johnson ing things up for a bit and I think we had a nice tradeoff between our civil rights presidents (Charles Adams, Hale, Vance) and our expansionist presidents (Crockett, Lincoln, Donnelly). The real revival of racism in the South (Jim Crow laws and suchlike) seems to have only come about in the 1900s with all the nasty splits among the parties.

BTW, Tillman did manage to rise to office, but he was really just an also-ran against Debs and will quickly be forgotten by history.
1696  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Summary of Your Political Views. on: June 29, 2014, 02:21:00 pm
Social democrat with a bit of that spicy hawkishness for flavor.
1697  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Public means Public Act (On the President's Desk) on: June 28, 2014, 07:12:53 pm
Motion to vote on the redraft.
1698  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Let Us Have More Teachers Act (Debating) on: June 28, 2014, 07:12:11 pm
Do we even have any laws regarding teacher salary at the moment or are they covered by other public sector union laws? Do the regions?
1699  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Runoff on: June 28, 2014, 07:10:34 pm
BTW I voted for Watson because he deserves it. Watson/Bilbo '13!
1700  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1913 Confederate Runoff on: June 28, 2014, 07:10:05 pm
To infamy and beyond!

Indeed, Malcolm!
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