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1676  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: June 16, 2014, 01:06:02 pm
I'm going to Governor's School tomorrow, so look forward to me posting less! Smiley

Congrats on not posting as much Wink!
1677  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Official Petition to Call a Constitutional Convention on: June 16, 2014, 01:02:47 pm
Goddammit, Midwest, get your act together.
1678  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1912 Presidential Election on: June 16, 2014, 12:09:22 pm
Protip guys: state your VP preferences if you have them - much blood was unnecessarily spilt over Hiram Johnson yesterday.
1679  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Rapists Shouldn't Have Custody Act of 2014 (At Final Vote) on: June 16, 2014, 11:47:51 am
This has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.



Aye

And as Duke alluded to, it's really not difficult, if this is found unconstitutional, to use the nuclear option.

You mean removing all federal funding from a region because they won't do something we legally are not allowed to command them to do?   That should definitely be considered unconstitutional.

Not really because no one is forcing them to take the money.

Ironically, the episode of M.A.S.H where BJ borrows money from Winchester to buy some land and pays for it as Winchester basically try to make him his slave, is on right now.

No, we are just taxing the people of the region, thus lessening the tax base for regional funding for a function, and then withholding the money for that function if they don't do what we tell them in some completely different area. Yeah, not coercive at all.   

Hold on, I'm confused. Do you think rapists should be allowed custody of their children?
1680  General Politics / Individual Politics / 1912 Presidential Election on: June 16, 2014, 11:46:05 am
As a show of friendship to the now twice-defeated President Cannon, Henry Cabot Lodge decided to keep William McKinley around for a while, though that was only a token gesture towards the Angry Old Man - their public smiles concealed an enmity that was now near-irreparable, though their policies did not differ by a significant amount. The main issue dividing the two is civil rights: Lodge wants to restore the Reed Brigade to where it was under its namesake President, declaring in one speech that "the negro is as much a citizen as the white man and his rights should be protected as such." However, he's not all warm fuzzies, not at all. He wants to close Ellis Island (and by "Ellis Island" we mean "all the immigration") for an unspecified amount of time (see the political cartoon in the sidebar (Yes, I'm switching between a newspaper and a textbook on a whim, but it's my goddamn thread!)) and institute national Prohibition, and the Irish are not happy. He wants to go back to Cleveland on labor rights as well, speaking of "an end to the socialistic practice of 'collective bargaining' and the full restoration of the capitalistic economy", but y'all should know by now that that's pretty much a litmus test for any prospective Union nominee. Also he wants to maybe take over Colombia if he feels like it, or at least force the government to build a canal there or something like that.

In the purple corner are Senator Oscar Underwood and his secret lover best buddy Governor Thomas Marshall, who was picked because he "seems like a nice fellow" and has a nice mustache. Underwood is far and away the most pro-civil rights candidate in the race, having won his own Senate race in 1908 by seventeen votes, and wants to send whole platoons of federal troops down to the South in order to destroy the Klan "for all eternity"; this has earned him the ire of President Cannon, who has made rumblings of "traitorousness" and "the South shall live", which is a bit weird because the latter is from Illinois. In contrast to Lodge, he strongly opposes Prohibition (though only on states' rights grounds) and supports a constitutional amendment to institute an income tax, as well as a federal law banning child labor. He has been the only candidate in the race to speak out against eugenics (mostly at the urging of Marshall) and has threatened universities that practice it with cuts to federal funding. On the subject of Colombia, he has hinted that he is open to negotiations, but would not use military force.

BMP rising star Robert Marion La Follette is also in support of civil rights, but not nearly to the extent of Underwood or even Lodge; he would much rather see some quiet peacekeeping forces sweep into Atlanta or wherever and defuse any racial tension should it arise. He has stated his support for women's suffrage, withdrawal from Atlantis (a move which caused him to be pelted with peaches, the favorite fruit of President Donnelly, at a rally in Illinois), and increased worker protections, and although he has not said it out loud, he wants to re-nationalize the railroads if he can. He is fully in support of an amendment to allow for women's suffrage and has picked California Governor Hiram Johnson as a nod to the Rooseveltian wing of the BMP (though TR is also being courted heavily by Lodge, who has promised him the position of Secretary of War) an an attempt to win that crucial swing state.

The shiny, new Populists are here, and they're doubling down on the "we're not that racist, seriously guys" message: Carter Glass has picked rising star T. Woodrow Wilson (what an asshole - who goes by their middle name?), and their big issues are nationalization of the banks (an issue that sometimes expresses itself in rather odd ways, like Glass's foaming-at-the-mouth rant about "the money-grubbing banking cartels stealing from the mouth of real, Christian Americans") and a rather large poll tax (but, you know, not large enough to keep too many white people away from the polls). Glass has engaged in several fierce debates about eugenics with Underwood that some have called reminiscent of the Adams-Calhoun debates over slavery - in this scenario Glass is the Calhoun analogue, supporting a federally funded eugenics program for the poor and mentally ill.
1681  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Constitutional Convention Clarification Amendment (Voting) on: June 16, 2014, 06:28:07 am
Aye.
1682  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: June 14, 2014, 06:09:23 pm
25% of the second-smartest fivesome in upstate New York.
1683  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: favorite decades - aesthetically, musically, politically, etc. on: June 14, 2014, 06:07:55 pm
1920s, '50s, '60s, '90s.
1684  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Public Ownership Act of 2014 (NEW FINAL VOTE STARTED) on: June 14, 2014, 03:24:32 pm
Aye.
1685  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: "Where've You Gone, General Washington?" - Participatory Election Series on: June 14, 2014, 03:14:26 pm
Bump and minor edit: Ignatius Donnelly died on New Year's Day, eighteen days earlier than we had all thought. Sorry about that.
1686  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should BRTD travel to Syria and join the rebels? on: June 13, 2014, 10:20:09 pm
the AI ADA (who two of my teammates named their daughter after.)

Lovelace?
1687  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1912 Conventions on: June 13, 2014, 10:10:08 pm
I'll go for Underwood, even tho it looks like he's less conservative here than IRL.
From what I've read, he was always pretty progressive by any measure.

He was generally a supporter of local/state self-government on issues like prohibition and suffrage, and often opposed labor regulations.

ugh you're not even my real dad

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you can't tell me how to write malcolm's my series just because you married mom
1688  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of having "opebo314" as a wi-fi password on: June 13, 2014, 09:49:14 pm
My little memorial that's been around for a bit FYI...

(It used to be opebo123, but I switched it recently because 314 is St. Louis' area code.)

Did I miss something? Do you live in St. Louis now?

No, but opebo was from there.

Ew. I guess that drops it down to Average on Alfred's Giant St. Louis Pro-Con Liststravaganza 2014.
1689  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1912 Conventions on: June 13, 2014, 09:46:28 pm
I'll go for Underwood, even tho it looks like he's less conservative here than IRL.
From what I've read, he was always pretty progressive by any measure.

He was generally a supporter of local/state self-government on issues like prohibition and suffrage, and often opposed labor regulations.

ugh you're not even my real dad
1690  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of having "opebo314" as a wi-fi password on: June 13, 2014, 09:01:48 pm
My little memorial that's been around for a bit FYI...

(It used to be opebo123, but I switched it recently because 314 is St. Louis' area code.)

Did I miss something? Do you live in St. Louis now?
1691  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Rapists Shouldn't Have Custody Act of 2014 (At Final Vote) on: June 13, 2014, 08:59:56 pm
Aye.
1692  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Bicameral Birthing Amendment of 2014 (Debating) on: June 13, 2014, 08:59:21 pm
Popping back in here to say that parliamentarianism is a nice thing and it might be fun.
1693  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What U.S. City should be the 2024 Olympic nominee? Round 1 (again) on: June 13, 2014, 07:54:53 pm
DC and SF!
1694  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Talleyrand for Northeast Governor! on: June 13, 2014, 05:06:01 pm
Endorsed!
1695  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1912 Conventions on: June 13, 2014, 02:09:52 pm
Oh no, I forgot about Europe. I voted Lodge because obviously the socialist menace must be stopped, but if I had remember WW1 was about to start I obviously would have voted for TR. He's the only one I'd trust to handle the US in that kind of situation.

It's OK bby I 5give you.
1696  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: June 13, 2014, 10:10:02 am
I agree with my colleagues' perspectives on the amendment. While I understand TNF's concerns, I've seen (through my loving father) how some principals frankly aren't trustworthy when it comes to this sort of stuff.
1697  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Fedoralist Party spokesman Riley Keaton continues to spread lies about Labor on: June 13, 2014, 10:05:25 am
Quoting yourself doesn't make it better.

I tried to click the modify button Sad.

And y'all can always scroll to the right.
1698  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1912 Conventions on: June 13, 2014, 10:01:14 am
I'll stay with Cannon. Whatever pisses off the left.

How's Europe going these days?

Oh, y'know, rushing towards the brink of war. It might be fun to see how Cannon or Underwood or La Follette handles that.
1699  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UPDATE: RILEY STILL HAS NOT DENIED ALLEGATIONS on: June 13, 2014, 09:57:22 am
As Lieutenant Governor of the Mideast, I must express my complete confidence in Governor Riley Keaton and my belief that these claims have no basis in reality. I do not see how charges could even be brought forth on such a ludicrous and unprovable claim.

Your concerns have been noted.
1700  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Right to Empowerment Act of 2014 (Debating) on: June 12, 2014, 10:48:36 pm
Is that inherently going to be case in any for-profit enterprise though? In a non-profit or cooperative entity, it would necessarily be reversed and as you prefer it.

You should know by now that the idea of profit is near anathema to our Midwestern colleague.
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