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101  General Discussion / History / Re: Who was the most politically adept President? on: February 25, 2014, 02:34:46 am
Honorable mention to Dubya, who at 29% approvals at the end got everything passed he wanted.  He was marvelous at getting a lot out of Congress.

If that were true, Social Security would have been privatized and Harriet Miers would be on the Supreme Court.

Not to mention Immigration Reform.
102  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Be honest: Do you miss opebo? on: February 24, 2014, 05:10:58 pm
Yes.
103  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Mexico captures #1 drug kingpin Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman leader of Sinaloa Cartel on: February 24, 2014, 03:40:13 pm
I'm not surprised that Dostoyevsky's deathless prose takes a while to sink in for a 'liberal eugenicist' like yourself, so here's the conclusion again, pared down and divorced from context because maybe that will help:

No! no! no! No man should be treated so, no man, no man!

No I know what you meant (you smug prick), I just don't agree. I think it's good that this person suffer. Not everybody deserves to live.

What you're describing is some combination or other of emotional catharsis--which has its place and its uses--and state-sponsored revenge, not justice, which is reconciliatory when it can be and concerned with the prevention or deterrence of future injustice when it can't.

No, what I'm describing is a policy to prevent future "recruitment" for the Cartels. If people learn that the wages of joining the enemy is death, and suffering for their families, then they will perhaps reconsider. The policies used by the Italians against the Sicilian mafia in the 1920's and 30's could be replicated with effectiveness in Mexico, I think.

Also, revenge isn't always a bad thing.

Which means they're the people over whom we're supposed to have some sort of moral high ground.

Pfft. It's not about "moral high ground". It's about winning the war against the Cartels. "Moral High Ground" is for victims.
104  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine on: February 24, 2014, 03:32:42 pm
It is the year 14. I would not discard that possibility, actually.

Wouldn't it just be the damnedest irony....
105  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Uganda passes tough anti-gay laws. on: February 24, 2014, 03:31:42 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/24/world/africa/uganda-anti-gay-bill/

It's official, President Yoweri Museveni has signed a modified version of the bill... basically the only thing the changed was "death" to "life in prison"

And to think they ask why Westerners think less of them. Oh well, eventually they will socially evolve out of this madness as their economies develop and education proliferates.
106  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Mexico captures #1 drug kingpin Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman leader of Sinaloa Cartel on: February 24, 2014, 01:23:12 pm
I don't see how what you just quoted contradicts my statement. The Cartel leader will have more anguish then his victims because he knows his death is certain (which I doubt anyways considering their use of torture)? Good. These are literally some of the worst people in the world.
107  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Mexico captures #1 drug kingpin Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman leader of Sinaloa Cartel on: February 24, 2014, 12:50:44 pm
Mexico has no death penalty. If he is extradited, it will, almost certainly, be conditioned on prosecutors NOT seeking death.

I'm not saying what I think will be done, but what should be done.
108  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Mexico captures #1 drug kingpin Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman leader of Sinaloa Cartel on: February 24, 2014, 12:46:52 am
Execute him. Send a message.

It's time to take off the white gloves.
109  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Normalizing Relations with Cuba Favored by Majority of Americans on: February 24, 2014, 12:30:47 am
Good to hear it. We've been being "sore winners" about it for too long.
110  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Perry backs decriminalizing marijuana on: February 24, 2014, 12:25:17 am
Glad to hear it. That's one step, the next is legalizing it.
111  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Obama pisses China off meets with Dalai Lama in the White House on: February 23, 2014, 10:01:59 pm
Destroying their cultural legacy and killing thousands during the cultural revolution was hardly a beneficial development compared to feudal Tibet modernizing on its own terms.

Lol.
112  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teens defend school called "fail factory" in miscue filled letters on: February 23, 2014, 09:59:31 pm
>new york post
113  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CNN to end 'Piers Morgan Live' on: February 23, 2014, 09:58:52 pm
Good riddance.
114  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In a Walker VS Hillary election, which state is more likely to vote R? on: February 23, 2014, 12:45:37 am
Wisconsin.
115  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In your opinion, who is the single strongest Republican candidate in the GE? on: February 23, 2014, 12:45:05 am
Huntsman.
116  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine on: February 22, 2014, 10:55:07 pm
Russian news apparently reporting that he's seeking asylum there.

Where do you keep getting this? RT says the President isn't leaving and I haven't heard/seen any substantiation by major media outlets (Al-Jazeera/France 24/ect.).
117  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Israeli right-wingers: Settlement freeze is a deal breaker on: February 22, 2014, 10:51:44 pm
Of course it is. They want their Lebensraum to the East.
118  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ohio GOP to Pass New "NC-like" Voting Restrictions on: February 22, 2014, 10:04:20 pm
So can there now be any doubt that the GOP is the party of institutionalized underhandedness, and cares solely and exclusively about it's wealthy donors?
119  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine on: February 22, 2014, 09:53:15 pm
Cory, while you might think Ukraine to be a good case for a seminar on "Basics of Geopolitics", there are actually some here who know, and are concerned about, real people living there. Just imagine for a moment we wouldn't be talking Ukraine but Canada or Cuba instead, and consider whether in that case you would still stick to your statements.

Of course I would, and even more so as the stakes for America would be higher.
120  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine on: February 22, 2014, 12:43:49 pm
Unsuprisingly you're missing the point.

You and Franzl keep saying vague things like this, but have yet to provide any supporting logic whatsoever.
121  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Obama pisses China off meets with Dalai Lama in the White House on: February 22, 2014, 12:41:48 pm
That seems a bit pro-imperialistic; why shouldn't Tibet be free? Simply because China is moving a bunch of Han Chinese in and the Dalai Lamas were terrible in the past?

Because it's too late now and the idea of an independent Tibet (barring a major collapse of china itself) is basically ASB.
122  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine on: February 22, 2014, 12:40:30 pm
I mind you being an HP. I mind that your conception of reality is very unrealistic.

The opposite is true. The fact that self-interest dominates international relations is backed up by almost all of human history.

123  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jay Nixon not ruling out run on: February 21, 2014, 08:13:39 pm
No chance. He could never win the primary.
124  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine on: February 21, 2014, 07:23:17 pm
You misunderstand me. I'm not commenting on what may or may not influence American foreign policy. Rather, I'm personally identifying you as an HP, the reasons for which you've demonstrated quite well in this thread. I imagine you won't have the slightest idea why, but that's ok.

I'm sorry if the type of cynicism that's required to make foreign policy for a major power is too much for you to understand. This isn't exactly anything new.

And of course you haven't demonstrated actual factual reasons to disagree with my assertion so whatever.
125  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine on: February 21, 2014, 07:08:27 pm
So we should just embrace geopolitical sociopathy instead of backing away from it?

If only life were that simple. "Geo-political sociopathy" is geo-politics. Not to say there isn't room for humanitarianism (for example I think we should've intervened in Rwanda) but at the end of the day we have to do what is necessary lest our enemies gain the upper hand.

Spoken like a true HP. Congratulations.

Sorry real life is to "mean" for your tastes.

So does anybody have any factual disagreements with my assertion?
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