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101  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary over Jeb in Florida? on: October 27, 2014, 01:39:52 pm
By 2016 Jeb Bush will have been Governor of Florida around nine years ago. It will have no impact with actual voters, but might play out with increased local GOP establishment support.

So I guess it will be a factor in the primary but a non-issue in the general.
102  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Most powerful member of the Axis Powers in World War II on: October 27, 2014, 01:37:18 pm
Germany was the single most capable and powerful Axis power. It's a fact. They were the only one with a chance of actually winning. Japan was doomed from the beginning and Italy was practically a German client state by 1941. Especially after the fiasco in the Balkans.
103  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1948 Presidential Election on: October 27, 2014, 01:31:55 pm
Sinclair/Randolph
104  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should red light cameras be used to enforce traffic laws? on: October 27, 2014, 01:12:17 pm
If they were safety devices and not revenue generators I probably wouldn't care, but since municipalities have shown repeatedly that they don't care about the safety aspect by shortening the time the light is yellow when they put in the cameras and only care about making money I'm 100% against them.

If you want safer intersections, increase the time the light stays yellow, it's as simple as that.  If you want to make money, raise taxes.
105  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine: Pro-Western Parties Win Big on: October 27, 2014, 01:06:52 pm
So they have chosen to be crushed under Merkel's boot rather than Putin's.

You really think this issue is that simple, don't you?
106  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: PGA Tour President canned for sexist tweet on: October 26, 2014, 09:31:18 pm
What a non-issue.
107  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Martha Coakley on: October 24, 2014, 08:42:40 pm
Horrible. When you run a complete disaster of a campaign, you go away. Her running again would be equivalent to Todd Akin running again. I'm sure she's nice and has decent political views but she has damaged the party by being a failure.

Feingold's campaign was a disaster (he refused to accept outside help) but most people want him to run again. Most people correctly assign the blame to the political climate, not to Feingold even though he made some mistakes. Why isn't this true for Coakley as well? It's hard to think of a time more politically hostile to Democrats than January 2010 (except maybe November 2010). Yes, Massachusetts was much bluer and Coakley's campaign was much worse, but can that really explain this huge difference in sentiment?

That's not why she's an HP. Incompetent campaigns don't make someone HP.

As Wormy said, Coakley used her position to keep innocent people in prison. That's a textbook HP if there ever was one.
108  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Steve King: "I donít expect to meet [gays] should I make it to heaven." on: October 24, 2014, 04:38:10 pm
I don't expect to meet Steve King should I make it to heaven.
109  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Georgia's voting backlog battle (Politico) on: October 24, 2014, 01:13:46 pm
Good news. Hopefully this fires up black Georgians and gets them to turn out in record numbers.
110  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Abraham Lincoln on: October 23, 2014, 05:43:17 pm
FF

Pros: Passed EC, actions helped pass 13th amendment, ending divisive political fights of 1830s 40s and 50s over expansion. Slavery needed to be abolished, the war was inevitable. Took both moral and constitutional stand against slavery. (on a personal note, I sympathize with him for his terrible childhood)

Cons: Blatantly violated constitution, suspended habeas corpus, imprisoned political enemies without trial, economic issues (tariffs, national bank), unions troops destruction of private property.

Exactly.
"The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."

Wouldn't you call the Civil War a case of rebellion?
111  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which "Clinton but not Obama" states could Hillary carry in 2016? on: October 22, 2014, 01:30:30 pm
Probably only Missouri.  I don't think there's a realistic chance of her winning the others.
112  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If you thought Obama's response to Ebola hasn't been ideal... on: October 22, 2014, 01:25:43 pm
That press conference... jesus christ.
113  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Better President, of these two (Bill Clinton vs. Barack Obama) on: October 21, 2014, 12:42:54 pm
Obama, easily.
114  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread (US Domestic) on: October 21, 2014, 12:39:03 pm
A: I actually have, just in a different thread.

A.) Your first link in that post repeats the Point Refuted A Thousand Times about how "they will just go through Europe!!11!". Because Passports don't exist and everyone is just taken at their word at customs.

B.) Most of the examples of travel bans not working were with diseases that were already here (HIV/AIDS, the flu).

B.) The SARS example was only screenings.

C.) Swine Flue was never really a big deal to begin with and spreads much more easily then Ebola.

D.) The post 9-11 flight ban example is just a total non-sequitur.

B: Oh!  That makes so much difference!  My point is demolished!

Good gravyRoll Eyes

Again, you know I was just using that as a metaphor and it wasn't a part of my overall point. But don't let that stop you from dishonestly trying to make that the issue to make yourself look more serious or something.
115  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Paul's conspiracy theorist past on: October 21, 2014, 12:26:05 pm
There have been many people that have been silenced due to their "conspiratorial" viewpoints. Paul doesn't display them currently which is why he hasn't been silenced fully.

If there's one thing conspricary theorists are good at, it's moving the goalpost.
116  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Giant Butt Plug in Center of Paris Deflated by Prudish Vandals on: October 21, 2014, 12:25:05 pm
^^ITT, prudes applauding the vandalism of art apparently

You're using that word rather liberally in this case, to say the least.
117  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread (US Domestic) on: October 21, 2014, 12:24:15 pm
Enforcing it would be a horrible waste of resources.  It's not as if people from there would never consider coming here if we cancel the direct flights, so for a travel ban to be have any effectiveness, we'd need to do background checks on every passenger arriving here on any flight.

On any international flight. But although I will admit it's expensive, you know what they say "desperate times" and such.

It won't accomplish its intended purpose.

Indeed, by making it more difficult to get assistance to West Africa where we need to send it if we're to get Ebola back under control, a total travel ban actually makes it more likely we'll get additional cases in the US.

It's already been over that isn't what people are talking about. It's about limiting commercial travel. It obviously wouldn't apply to health workers/government.

Impose a travel ban on those countries, and people would just go through a third country and lie about where they're coming from.  Thus we'd get more cases where people who should be monitored for having traveled there slip through the cracks, and risk infecting others.

This is on it's way to being a Point Refuted A Thousand Times. They have this thing called a Passport. It's not as simple about just bullsh**ting about where you're from.

118  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best President, of these three on: October 21, 2014, 09:11:17 am
Bush Sr.
119  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best President, of these three on: October 21, 2014, 08:22:46 am
Korea was pretty awful though.

What were we supposed to do, just let the Soviets incorporate all of Korea into their proxy sphere? Stare down the possibility of a Finlandized Japan? Unacceptable.
120  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread (US Domestic) on: October 21, 2014, 08:19:38 am
Of course.  Design decisions made in the service of having a playable board game with simple and engaging mechanics should totally be taken as expert advice from actual epidemiologists.  Makes perfect sense.  Roll Eyes

This is the same principle by which Risk proved that control of Australia is the most important step towards control of the world; or, to get even nerdier, how Twilight Struggle proved that domino theory was correct.

A.) That's not my point and you know it. I also noticed you still haven't actually pointed out why such a ban is a bad idea.

B.) I wasn't talking about the board game. I was talking about the computer version, it's similar but you play as the virus and try to kill as many as possible.
121  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best President, of these three on: October 21, 2014, 07:07:47 am
Truman and it's not even close.
122  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Giant Butt Plug in Center of Paris Deflated by Prudish Vandals on: October 20, 2014, 07:51:17 pm
Good.
123  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Paul's conspiracy theorist past on: October 20, 2014, 12:37:02 pm
On some level I appreciate that a prominent national politician is a true believer conspiracy nut, even if his beliefs are somewhat closeted now, because it allows me to rest easy and be absolutely certain that those conspiracies are categorically false. If there hypothetically was a vast New World Order running the goverment from behind the scenes, this guy would obviously have been silenced and/or not allowed anywhere near a major public office (especially considering he's the Ranking Member of the Senate Subcommittees in charge of FEMA oversight and interactions with the UN).

Yes, this. All of this.
124  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Bill Cosby on: October 20, 2014, 12:22:51 pm
What a comeback. Bravo.

You get what you give. A point that isn't supported in any way can be responded to with a similar point.
125  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Bill Cosby on: October 19, 2014, 07:11:45 pm
I think that's a pretty silly way to look at these issues. 

Sure, you shouldn't judge "black people" based on the actions of a few criminals.  I agree with that.  Cory's point is basically racist drivel, and that's why Bill Cosby's words became problematic in America.  We tend to turn everything into a white vs. black issue unfortunately.

But, that's not what Bill Cosby actually meant.  I think his point is that even if there are racial inequities, black people ought to work on the social problems, mostly born out of poverty, on an individual level.  If you just constantly see yourself as a victim with no agency, that's actually racist in my eyes because it's disempowering to black people.  Individual people can make a huge difference in things like the achievement gap, by talking to their young children and reading to them for example.  That's not to say, black parents have the same advantages as white parents on average.  But, I think the point is just that constantly focusing on racism and the victim status of black becomes counter-productive after a point. 

No it isn't.
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