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101  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: O'Malley Gets Cold Response After He Says 'White Lives Matter, All Lives Matter' on: July 21, 2015, 11:59:37 pm
If the numbers you posted are correct, it is worth pointing out that whites make up 72% of the United States population and African-Americans are 13%. 

But whites aren't 72% of those killed by the police -- they are only 49%.  And African-Americans are 31% -- which is more than double their share of the U.S. population.

But we also have to remember that despite being 13% of the population blacks commit roughly half of all murder's in the USA, and more then half of all robberies.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

The fact is that due to social circumstances blacks commit a wildly disproportionate amount of crimes in the United States. So it figures that they would correspondingly have a disproportionate number of fatalities involving law enforcement.

I really for the life of me don't understand why more people don't realize this.
102  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: National Review calls Jewish candidate Bernie Sanders a National Socialist on: July 21, 2015, 05:29:10 pm
Read the article.  In Sanders world, it's always the evil Chinese and Mexicans "stealing our jobs".  It is based on fear of foreigners who are different than most of us.  Never the Canadians or Scandanavians.

I'm pretty sure he blames the American corporations who outsource and the policies that enable them more than the "foreigners".

Don't be dishonest.
103  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) on: July 21, 2015, 04:43:29 pm
yes, okay, it's all from biased sources.  Whatever.  I'm cool with mohammed.  And Mohammed's cool with me.  None of y'all know him any better or worse than I do.  

Are you a practicing Muslim? No? Then you are wrong.
104  General Discussion / History / Re: Falklands War (1982) on: July 21, 2015, 04:03:29 am
ˇLas Malvinas son Argentinas!

Why on Earth would a communist support a right wing fascist military dictatorship?

Geo-political hipsterdom. They are against a Western country so therefore are the good guys.
105  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Affirmative Consent Laws on: July 19, 2015, 11:15:31 pm
Well, if you don't want that to be seen as rape, then DON'T ACCUSE HER OF RAPE. So many paranoid idjits miss out on the "accusation" part of "false rape accusation", I swear...

The amount of "woosh" going over your head could power California for six weeks.
106  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are Republican Party policies the root cause of nearly all of our problems? on: July 17, 2015, 03:13:26 pm
In reality only the reorganization of American society around a meritocratic elite, a civil-military education system and the training of successive cohorts of American men and women to regard advancement in service of the state and that the nation would have their back, would solve our problems. This would be a society where whole generations of young men and young women would learn from grade-school age to work together and to value being part of a society of friends and countrymen where they learn apart from traditional education, military, technical and emergency survival and civil defense skills. Only when the populace has embraced the virtues of being part of an "organic national community" would we be able to fix our country's problems with astonishing swiftness.

Beautiful. This makes perfect sense to me. This would solve almost all our problems but the usual types who have never worked a day in their lives will whine a complain about this based on some bourgeois concept of themselves as a Special Snowflake.
107  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 17, 2015, 02:07:21 am
I'm also assuming that Jon will be resurrected, but I don't think that he'll then march on Winterfell.  I feel like it would be a cheat if Jon is resurrected just to do some stuff that his Stark self would care about, like driving the Boltons from Winterfell.  I'd prefer that undead-Jon shifts to "bigger picture" issues, presumably related directly to the White Walker invasion. Maybe he'll have to flee north from Castle Black, and runs into Bran or Benjen?  Something like that.

Ugh. I hope not. I kinda wish they would just disappear.

It would've been better if the assassin killed the kid in season 1 to get the ball rolling.

108  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you vote to get rid of mandatory minimum sentences? on: July 16, 2015, 02:34:51 pm
Yes, absolutely.
109  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do you support getting rid of the supreme court? on: July 16, 2015, 02:34:15 pm
110  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Affirmative Consent Laws on: July 16, 2015, 01:08:33 pm
ingemann, before I decide how much of an colossal jackass I think you are, I have to ask: What group of people, exactly, is it who you're referring to as 'asbergers'?

TRIGGERED.
111  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 15, 2015, 09:46:10 pm
The two of the dragonblood will rule jointly. Its the obvious, logical ending.

But isn't that kind of against the entire theme of Game Of Thrones? If that happened it would just be another "obvious good guy character inevitably wins the day at the end" show/book.

Having the White-walkers win would be kind of bullsh**t to because it would look like lazy writing, an easy way to cop out of having to write an actual ending in which the plot is relevant. It would be like if someone was writing an Alternate History and just as things were coming to a climax they post " ...and then an asteroid hits the earth and everyone dies. The end."

112  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Affirmative Consent Laws on: July 14, 2015, 11:50:37 pm
Pretty much the logical conclusion of the anti-sex witch hunt that feminists have been pushing for the better part of the last thirty years or so. You don't have to be a genius to see that these laws are less about preventing rape than they are more or less implicitly about putting the government back into the bedroom after it was kicked out during the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s-70s. Back then they sent monitors around dorm rooms to make sure that all four feet were on the floor, now they go for a written contract beforehand and bring in the lawyers.
113  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: To Stave Off Decline, Churches Attract New Members With Beer on: July 14, 2015, 04:43:32 pm
Ah yes, the desperation is palpable.
114  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Walker: Minumum Wage is 'lame' on: July 14, 2015, 04:42:36 pm
This is what happens when you don't finish college, kiddos.

To be fair, the criticism that he didn't finish college making him intellectually lesser is dishonest. He technically dropped out at more the less minute to get a good paying job at IBM IIRC. So in reality there is no real difference to him finishing college.

I disagree with him on just about everything and all but this narrative is fundamentally dishonest in it's implications.
115  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: AlternateHistory.com on: July 14, 2015, 04:00:30 pm
Rumsfeldia has been updated, finally!

It was glorious! Finally! I hope Drew can pick up the pace from here on out but given the debt of the timeline I understand if he can't.
116  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 14, 2015, 03:57:28 pm
Littlefinger on the Iron Throne? Are you sure that's really that good of an outcome? Tongue

Now with The One True King His Grace Stannis Baratheon gone Lord Petyr Baelish is the only choice.

I call such bullsh**t on George RR Martin if he has Daenerys win the Throne at the end of the day. It would just be so utterly predictable and typical.
117  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 14, 2015, 03:47:39 pm
That actually would be an excellent outcome. Only problem is, knowing this show, it's far too good to be true. Tongue

Well I'm sure the WhiteWalker invasion and the Daenerys Targaryen making an alliance with Dorne and landing there/marching on Kings Landing will adjust things a bit, to say the least.

Daenerys will probably take Dragonstone first as a springboard to invade Westeros though. With (His Grace) Stannis done for that should be easier then ever.
118  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 14, 2015, 03:19:48 pm
I still don't get why he led Sansa to Winterfell instead of keeping her safe in the Vale. Does he plan on befriending the Boltons? If so, why then tell Cersei he's going to raise the Vale's army against them? I know Littlefinger likes chaos, but even for him this plan makes no sense.

I think things are actually set up perfectly for Baelish to seize the North. Think about it: John (probably) gets resurrected and takes command of the Wildlings and summons some minor Northern Houses to march on Winterfell to get revenge against House Bolton. As the Wildling/Northern forces approach Winterfell, Baelish moves in with the Knights of the Vale into Winterfell to "support" the Boltons.

Once inside, the Vale Knights stage a back-stab as John assaults the city, House Bolton is crushed and Petyr enters an alliance with John re-establish House Stark in Winterfell. Petyr, now much stronger and having taken little causalities in his own army due to the ambush nature of his attack, marches South with the North supporting him.

House Tyrell now has major incentive to side with Baelish and doom the Lannisters once and for all.
119  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of clickbait “news” sites? on: July 14, 2015, 02:48:13 pm
Upworthy is one of the best websites of all time.

*rolls eyes*
120  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama commutes 46 non-violent drug offenders' sentences. on: July 13, 2015, 02:24:57 pm
Only 46? He should free so many more than that.
121  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 13, 2015, 11:05:39 am
The substantiation is, not even a social conservative like jmfcst would suggest something like state run brothels.

Except I don't think anyone here advocated for state-run brothels. You're spinning a strawman.
122  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 12, 2015, 11:04:13 pm
Did I ever claim otherwise? I explicitly said that I don't favor keeping prostitution a crime, I just think it's repugnant to act as if it's completely unremarkable, unexceptionable, and morally neutral. That's all I was ever trying to say.

I will however also say for what has to be at least the third time on this forum, possibly the third time in this thread, that I find the sensibility that one's moral viewpoints should have no place in one's attitudes towards policy, such that 'moralistic' can be uncomplicatedly an insult in this context, deeply, deeply disturbing. I don't like sex being commodified, it's important to me that sex not be commodified, and I don't want to live in an environment in which the commodification of sex is commonly accepted. Of course this is going to make me less than thrilled with the idea of legally condoning the commodification of sex, even if I recognize that it's for the best.

Truth be told I respect the sincerity by which you have this opinion, I suppose if I were utterly morally repulsed by a policy/activity I too would argue against it even in the face of the "technical" arguments of the proponents of said policy.

123  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 11, 2015, 09:10:41 pm
You know, Famous Mortimer, you're not entirely wrong. If we legalize, ideally we could crack down on violence and STDs involved in it typically, and maybe we could improve the living conditions of those working in this industry. Personally, I have a problem with the message that sends and I find it very troubling that an overwhelming supermajority of women who are prostitutes say they would prefer to exit the industry, so it doesn't seem like our response to that should be to legalize.

Finally it comes out. People made this point a million times over and you just ignored it and claimed to have "heard no reason to legalize it" over and over again. The reason you are against reforms that would actively benefit sex workers is so you can feel self-righteous about yourself.

You constantly claimed that your personal feelings about why prostitution is inherently bad constituted "evidence". You let your personal feelings cancel out logical and common-sense reforms that would save lives, reduce the spread of disease, crack down on sex trafficking, and protect sex workers from abuse. Instead you made arguments that relate more to Victorian conservative attitudes in regards to sex while having the audacity to accuse others of having a "right-wing" opinion on the matter, when clearly they did not.

You're no better then the religious nutcases who are against teaching comprehensive sex ed and birth control for similar reasons couched in different language ("Sex is sacred!" "Think about the message it sends!").

You argued in bad faith, outright ignored valid points against you, and engaged in rank intellectual dishonesty by trying to shame your opponents by likening them to "right-wingers".

Shame on you.
124  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the father in this case have been charged with any crime? on: July 10, 2015, 11:32:02 am
Yes. Beating up people is wrong, unless it was literally the only way to prevent a greater harm from being done (which I doubt it was in this case). Two wrongs don't make one right.

Jesus dude just shut up. Spare us that high horsed moralfag crap.
125  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 10, 2015, 11:25:58 am
To look at the arguments of the pro-prostitution liberal left is to enter a strange and frankly kind of gross world in which treating sex as an in principle separate sphere of life from employment--surely a novel and incomprehensible distinction to make!--is just one of 'society's hang-ups', consent to sex and consent to employment should be held to directly equivalent standards, and 'sex-negative' is a non-joke concept.

Reality and rationality may seem strange and gross to those living in a moralistic world of delusion and nonsense, yes.

It's amazing. I can't really argue against it, but I don't really feel like I have to because it's the Dr. Pepper of political positions: It just tastes 'off'.

I think that's all you really needed to say.
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