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126  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: AlternateHistory.com on: July 14, 2015, 04:00:30 pm
Rumsfeldia has been updated, finally!

It was glorious! Finally! I hope Drew can pick up the pace from here on out but given the debt of the timeline I understand if he can't.
127  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 14, 2015, 03:57:28 pm
Littlefinger on the Iron Throne? Are you sure that's really that good of an outcome? Tongue

Now with The One True King His Grace Stannis Baratheon gone Lord Petyr Baelish is the only choice.

I call such bullsh**t on George RR Martin if he has Daenerys win the Throne at the end of the day. It would just be so utterly predictable and typical.
128  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 14, 2015, 03:47:39 pm
That actually would be an excellent outcome. Only problem is, knowing this show, it's far too good to be true. Tongue

Well I'm sure the WhiteWalker invasion and the Daenerys Targaryen making an alliance with Dorne and landing there/marching on Kings Landing will adjust things a bit, to say the least.

Daenerys will probably take Dragonstone first as a springboard to invade Westeros though. With (His Grace) Stannis done for that should be easier then ever.
129  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: July 14, 2015, 03:19:48 pm
I still don't get why he led Sansa to Winterfell instead of keeping her safe in the Vale. Does he plan on befriending the Boltons? If so, why then tell Cersei he's going to raise the Vale's army against them? I know Littlefinger likes chaos, but even for him this plan makes no sense.

I think things are actually set up perfectly for Baelish to seize the North. Think about it: John (probably) gets resurrected and takes command of the Wildlings and summons some minor Northern Houses to march on Winterfell to get revenge against House Bolton. As the Wildling/Northern forces approach Winterfell, Baelish moves in with the Knights of the Vale into Winterfell to "support" the Boltons.

Once inside, the Vale Knights stage a back-stab as John assaults the city, House Bolton is crushed and Petyr enters an alliance with John re-establish House Stark in Winterfell. Petyr, now much stronger and having taken little causalities in his own army due to the ambush nature of his attack, marches South with the North supporting him.

House Tyrell now has major incentive to side with Baelish and doom the Lannisters once and for all.
130  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of clickbait news sites? on: July 14, 2015, 02:48:13 pm
Upworthy is one of the best websites of all time.

*rolls eyes*
131  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama commutes 46 non-violent drug offenders' sentences. on: July 13, 2015, 02:24:57 pm
Only 46? He should free so many more than that.
132  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 13, 2015, 11:05:39 am
The substantiation is, not even a social conservative like jmfcst would suggest something like state run brothels.

Except I don't think anyone here advocated for state-run brothels. You're spinning a strawman.
133  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 12, 2015, 11:04:13 pm
Did I ever claim otherwise? I explicitly said that I don't favor keeping prostitution a crime, I just think it's repugnant to act as if it's completely unremarkable, unexceptionable, and morally neutral. That's all I was ever trying to say.

I will however also say for what has to be at least the third time on this forum, possibly the third time in this thread, that I find the sensibility that one's moral viewpoints should have no place in one's attitudes towards policy, such that 'moralistic' can be uncomplicatedly an insult in this context, deeply, deeply disturbing. I don't like sex being commodified, it's important to me that sex not be commodified, and I don't want to live in an environment in which the commodification of sex is commonly accepted. Of course this is going to make me less than thrilled with the idea of legally condoning the commodification of sex, even if I recognize that it's for the best.

Truth be told I respect the sincerity by which you have this opinion, I suppose if I were utterly morally repulsed by a policy/activity I too would argue against it even in the face of the "technical" arguments of the proponents of said policy.

134  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 11, 2015, 09:10:41 pm
You know, Famous Mortimer, you're not entirely wrong. If we legalize, ideally we could crack down on violence and STDs involved in it typically, and maybe we could improve the living conditions of those working in this industry. Personally, I have a problem with the message that sends and I find it very troubling that an overwhelming supermajority of women who are prostitutes say they would prefer to exit the industry, so it doesn't seem like our response to that should be to legalize.

Finally it comes out. People made this point a million times over and you just ignored it and claimed to have "heard no reason to legalize it" over and over again. The reason you are against reforms that would actively benefit sex workers is so you can feel self-righteous about yourself.

You constantly claimed that your personal feelings about why prostitution is inherently bad constituted "evidence". You let your personal feelings cancel out logical and common-sense reforms that would save lives, reduce the spread of disease, crack down on sex trafficking, and protect sex workers from abuse. Instead you made arguments that relate more to Victorian conservative attitudes in regards to sex while having the audacity to accuse others of having a "right-wing" opinion on the matter, when clearly they did not.

You're no better then the religious nutcases who are against teaching comprehensive sex ed and birth control for similar reasons couched in different language ("Sex is sacred!" "Think about the message it sends!").

You argued in bad faith, outright ignored valid points against you, and engaged in rank intellectual dishonesty by trying to shame your opponents by likening them to "right-wingers".

Shame on you.
135  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the father in this case have been charged with any crime? on: July 10, 2015, 11:32:02 am
Yes. Beating up people is wrong, unless it was literally the only way to prevent a greater harm from being done (which I doubt it was in this case). Two wrongs don't make one right.

Jesus dude just shut up. Spare us that high horsed moralfag crap.
136  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 10, 2015, 11:25:58 am
To look at the arguments of the pro-prostitution liberal left is to enter a strange and frankly kind of gross world in which treating sex as an in principle separate sphere of life from employment--surely a novel and incomprehensible distinction to make!--is just one of 'society's hang-ups', consent to sex and consent to employment should be held to directly equivalent standards, and 'sex-negative' is a non-joke concept.

Reality and rationality may seem strange and gross to those living in a moralistic world of delusion and nonsense, yes.

It's amazing. I can't really argue against it, but I don't really feel like I have to because it's the Dr. Pepper of political positions: It just tastes 'off'.

I think that's all you really needed to say.
137  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 10, 2015, 11:21:46 am
No, things can't change! They would still be sex objects! And to normalize or popularize prostitution would only enable the patriarchal mindset. We don't need girls growing up thinking that's all they're worth.

So you admit that your position isn't based on anything logical or policy-based and is just moralistic grandstanding.

How can you think flipping burgers and having a man ejaculate inside of you are equally "work"?

Because they are.
138  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 09, 2015, 10:35:08 pm
What kind of a life do you think they have outside of prostitution? Do you think they go to a nice home a night, and are surrounded by people who love them? Or do you think they have an unsatisfying life, where they never get to enjoy anything?

The same can be said for all kinds of people in "legitimate" fields of work. Especially low-income fields.

If prostitution was brought out of the dark and women involved could have more agency then perhaps things might start to change.
139  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 09, 2015, 10:21:39 pm
They are employed as workers to create profitable products or provide profitable services, but those people are much more than workers, they are people who have lives. I've never once said they existed on this earth to work, but rather they are employed for the purpose of work.

Just. Like. Prostitutes.

Famous Mortimer is really owning this thread.
140  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Alexander the Great vs Alexis Tsipras on: July 09, 2015, 10:15:20 pm
Alexander the Great, of course. It's a shame he had to die so young.
141  General Discussion / History / Re: Opinion of Jack London? on: July 09, 2015, 04:00:41 pm
Massive Freedom Fighter. The Iron Heel was a truly amazing work, amongst others.
142  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is Ted Cruz's Strategy? on: July 09, 2015, 03:57:38 pm
As it happens, I was listening to this Cruz interview this morning and he very briefly describes his electoral strategy to Bill Bennett.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20nIhetKT3s&t=5m50s

Stopped listening when he mentioned the "millions of conservatives who are staying home" myth.
143  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 09, 2015, 03:25:19 pm
I support the Swedish system.

Why is paying for sex inherently worse then selling sex? Even if the idea is to make it to where sex workers don't get arrested it still keeps the practice underground where it is easier to exploit sex workers as opposed to legalization and regulation.
144  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Donald Trump (R-NY) vs. Waka Flocka Flame (D-GA) on: July 09, 2015, 12:47:05 pm
Best case scenario for Flocka Flame:

145  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton campaign worried about Sanders, believe he's a real threat on: July 09, 2015, 12:44:38 pm
Gee, things went so well with the "more electable" nominee in 1984.

You really think Gary Hart would've done much better?
146  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is Ted Cruz's Strategy? on: July 08, 2015, 07:23:59 pm
Well, Ted Cruz is not very smart.

Because you say so? All because you say something over and over again doesn't make it the truth.

Sure, he's smarter than some GOP candidates like Carly Fiorina and perhaps Rick Santorum, yet that doesn't actually tell us much. The vast majority of GOP candidates are smarter than him, whether you like it or not. Perhaps even Ben Carson, though he's an incredible dumb as well, he can actually prove to be incredibly smart in certain fields, in a very stark contrast to Cruz.

How could you possibly know any of this? You're just utterly talking out of your ass at this point.

147  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton campaign worried about Sanders, believe he's a real threat on: July 08, 2015, 07:21:22 pm
So "the debate" is more important than 17 million people having health insurance?

Yes, that's how these people really think. They are wildly unrealistic and living an a bubble of their own.

Voting for Bernie Sanders is fine and well, but actually nominating him would be an unmitigated disaster and it's foolish to deny it. It's hardly a "convoluted and contrived hypothetical".
148  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is Ted Cruz's Strategy? on: July 08, 2015, 07:15:13 pm
You're right. My IQ is 130, so I could easily have taken down mister Hate the Economy-Cruz in any discussion.

Jesus you can't be serious.

Also you're a jackass if you really think IQ is the end all be all of intelligence.
149  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is Ted Cruz's Strategy? on: July 08, 2015, 07:12:13 pm
And you're the one who sounds like an American right now.

What's this even supposed to mean?

Cruz would have been cruzified in every other country in the world if he did the same actions.

If you recall, his government shutdown antics didn't work out to well for him. Also "every other country" is a bit of a stretch. Western Europe and North America aren't the entire world.

 
Apparently you're cheering for Cruz cause he seriously hurt the US and world economy for months and thus made it easier for Sanders to win over Obama's pick Hillary in the end.

*facepalm*

By what measure am I "cheering for Cruz"? All because I don't have my head so far up my ass  I think anyone who disagree with me is a dummy head even in light of evidence to the contrary?
150  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Biden will be in next month on: July 08, 2015, 06:56:34 pm
Washington Times, throw it in the trash.
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