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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is freepcrusher the worst poster on the forum? on: November 25, 2014, 08:21:42 pm
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Gully Foyle's African News Thread on: November 25, 2014, 07:41:50 pm
The Kenyan government fears that  the chief investigator in charge of uncovering  the post election violence in 2008 is on his way to Hague to testify before the ICC.

Former senior Deputy Police Commissioner Francis Okonya vanished last Friday. His official car was reportedly seen driving into the US embassy in Gigiri in the afternoon following a row with his former boss Inspector General David Kimaiyo and his deputy Grace Kaindi in the morning.

Okonya has not been seen since, his phones are switched off and his family says they have not seen him.

Really hope Okonya has decided to testify - and that he will be properly protected if he does.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201411250502.html



3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Namibia general election - November 29, 2014 on: November 25, 2014, 07:24:40 pm
RDP, the Communists (RWP) and an NGO are going to court in order to postpone the election to February to get a poll without EVMs, as they fear using EVMs with no paper trail will allow SWAPO to rig the election.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201411251067.html

4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Steny Hoyer on: November 25, 2014, 07:06:47 pm
isn't he a gun nut?

Hoyer is rated F by the NRA so no.

The post right after Mitty's:

isnt he a gun nut?

No, he has an F rating from the NRA.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: ZANU-PF Congress December 2-7 - choosing a Queen and a course on: November 25, 2014, 06:00:34 pm
Joice Mujuru is out of the CC as the Mashonaland Central Provincial Executive rejected her and a host of other heavyweights have failed to get reelected as well including cabinet ministers Lazarus Dokora (Education), Nicholas Goche (Labour), Dzikamai Mavhaire (Energy), Walter Mzembi (Tourism), Simbarashe Mumbengegwi (Foreign Affairs), Flora Bhuka (Land and Resettlement) and Francis Nhema (Youth and Empowerment). Its really a massacre...

http://nehandaradio.com/2014/11/25/mujuru-booted-zanu-pf-central-committee/

There are some talented people in that lot and it will be interesting to see if any of them will join the opposition.

As many as 100 legislators may be on their way out.

http://nehandaradio.com/2014/11/25/bloodbath-zanu-pf-10-ministers-100-legislators-face-wilderness/
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYT: Hagel to resign on: November 25, 2014, 05:31:42 pm
Just got an update on Politico saying that Flournoy has taken herself out of the running


What was her reason?
7  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: politicus vs Queen "Bloody" Mary I on: November 25, 2014, 05:18:03 pm
politicus/politicus.  If I voted for Bloody Mary I feel politicus would hunt me down and show me what a real Bloody Mary was like.  Smiley

8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Surviving Southern Democrats If Landrieu Goes Down on: November 25, 2014, 05:14:05 pm
Note: South as defined by "Old Confederacy" rather than "US Census Region", thereby excluding Oklahoma, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and Washington DC

Senators
• Mark Warner (VA)
• Tim Kaine (VA)
• Bill Nelson (FL)

Percentage of all 22 Senators from South = 9%


Bad math..
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: November 25, 2014, 04:43:16 pm
People that have a knee jerk hatred of cops are worse than cops.  "cops" is much too broad to narrowed down to FF/HP.  It's not like they are trial lawyers, Catholic clergy or fans of Nickleback.

10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are the majority of Atlas forum posts from 2014 made by FFs or HPs? on: November 25, 2014, 04:38:07 pm
FF's

In a 2-1 ratio.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement tonight) on: November 25, 2014, 02:20:25 pm
Unbelievable is the right word. Crazy stuff...

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side

"I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand."

I can't even tell what set of actions this is purporting to describe.

As the article goes on to say:

"So Brown is punching inside the car. Wilson is scrambling to deflect the blows, to protect his face, to regain control of the situation. And then Brown stops, turns to his left, says to his friend, "Here, hold these," and hands him the cigarillos stolen from Ferguson Market. Then he turns back to Wilson and, with his left hand now freed from holding the contraband goods, throws a haymaker at Wilson."

When presented step by step, as the article does, Wilson's story is one of the most counterintuitive and unbelievable tales I have ever heard. I just doesn't make sense for Brown to have acted the way Wilson claims he did.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement tonight) on: November 25, 2014, 01:12:10 pm
Unbelievable is the right word. Crazy stuff...

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side

"I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand."
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Zambia presidential by-election - January 20, 2015 on: November 25, 2014, 08:44:15 am
The Lungu wing has agreed to go to the GC, but has "requested" that they use the 2011 registers of delegates (ie. before Wynter Kabimba placed a lot of his supporters on the rolls). The status of this request is a bit unclear, but it will the crucial for Lungu's  chances.

Lungu has struck a deal to stand on Frank Bwalya’ s Alliance for a Better Zambia list if he should lose at the GC.

Frank Bwalya de facto owns the party, since the rest of the executive defected to UPND in July leaving Bwalya alone.

Bwalya has been promised to become Vice President in this scenario.

So status is that Scott's wing gets to arrange the conference, they may get to use the register most beneficial to them and Lungu hasn't agreed to withdraw from the race in case of a defeat.

So off to a great showdown at the rock in the bush. There is going to be 3.000 riot police present alongside the 5.000+ delegates to avoid any violence from the "panga wielding thugs" that PF is infamous for.

EDIT: They will use the 2011 register and it has not been decided whether candidates with one foreign born parent can stand.

EDIT2: The suspension of the 16 members has been terminated, but only after they wrote individual letters apologising their conduct (which may be a bit too humiliating).
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Zambia presidential by-election - January 20, 2015 on: November 25, 2014, 08:18:34 am
Endorsements keep rolling in for HH.

At a joint press conference the leaders of three small opposition parties Charles Milupi of Alliance for Democracy and Development, Mike Mulongoti of the Peoples’ Party and Nason Musoni of the All People's Congress declared their support for UPND’s Hakainde Hichilema for president.

They called on "all well-meaning Zambians to remove the PF government on 20th January 2015."

Charles Milupi motivated his choice by saying the PF government has been "very repressive, violent and has damaged the economy."

15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this image on: November 24, 2014, 10:00:54 pm
As bad as:

16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Andrew Cuomo vs Joseph Stalin on: November 24, 2014, 07:48:13 pm
Cuomo vs. Ernst Stavro Blofeld
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Francois Hollande on: November 24, 2014, 07:34:03 pm
Hollande is hardly a monster, so someone should vote FF just to enforce the "never unanimous" rule. 25-0 is a bit much.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby on: November 24, 2014, 06:03:36 pm
Adultery is legal.  Rape is a horrible criminal act.  There's no way to say they're in any way morally equivalent.  

There have been a string of accusations about sexual assault or abuse from Clinton dating back to his student days (one "incident" in Oxford, one in Yale) and onwards. So there are clear similarities between the Cosby and Clinton sexual abuse narratives.

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2013/09/27/bill-clinton-a-long-history-of-alleged-rape-and-sexual-assault/

This is the front page of "mofopolitics.com" right now:



I hate to agree with Beet, but mofopolitics is basically a terrible resource and you should feel bad for using it.

The source is pretty irrelevant in this context, my point is there exists a similar narrative about Clinton (as serial abuser). It has been published before in other contexts.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: angus vs. Angus on: November 24, 2014, 05:50:10 pm
angus/angus
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Dallas or Saskatoon? on: November 24, 2014, 02:16:10 pm
Sakatoon, since it isn't blistering hot and there's guaranteed better health care.

Traffic would be better as well.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of dead0man on: November 24, 2014, 07:09:00 am
Some unfortunate qualities, but generally a FF:

Though the comment about the 12 year old boy was despicable.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: ZANU-PF Congress December 2-7 - choosing a Queen and a course on: November 24, 2014, 06:28:13 am
A 10 hour marathon Politburo meeting on Saturday agreed to change the party's constitution to empower the party's First Secretary and President Robert Mugabe to appoint his deputies, the party chairman and the members of the Politburo. They also agree to increase the CC from 225 to 300 and affirmed the three latest oustings of provincial chairmen: Ray Kaukonde (Mashonaland East), John Mvundura (Manicaland) and Luke Mushore (Mashonaland Central).

The changes still require ratification of the Central Committee, which is likely to meet before end of the week, for them to be effective. There will be CC elections going on during the week, so it will be a new CC (with fewer Mujuru supporters), that takes the decision, which should therefore be a formality.

Further purges and oustings (if they happen) will be at the CC meeting.

http://nehandaradio.com/2014/11/24/mugabe-tightens-grip-zanu-pf/

Surprisingly Callistus Ndlovu has been reinstated by the Politburo as Bulawayo chairman, but the shenanigans going on in his ousting may have been too embarrassing to tolerate.

http://nehandaradio.com/2014/11/24/callistus-ndlovu-survives-ouster/
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Zambia presidential by-election - January 20, 2015 on: November 24, 2014, 06:12:44 am
Scott and his faction claim that there was a quorum of 50% (16 of 32 active members) on the Sunday CC meeting and they have decided to hold the General Conference on Saturday at Mulungushi Rock. The 16 suspended CC members can only participate, if they have cleared themselves before the party's disciplinary committee, but there are no candidates among them.

All 10 candidates seems to be on the ballot, no mentioning of the parentage clause.

Chishimba Kambwili, GBM, Miles Sampa, Wylbur Simuusa and Mulenga Sata all participated in the briefing after the meeting and Christine Kaseba will of course attend.

That leaves Lungu, Lubinda, Bob Sichinga and the outsider Selemani Banda, but Sichinga is a Sata relative and I am sure he will attend the GC. So the question is what Lungu (and possibly Lubinda) will do next.

https://www.zambianwatchdog.com/pf-sets-next-saturday-for-convention-to-pick-candidate/

EDIT: There is a "caucus" meeting between the two wings tomorrow, but the Scott wing seems to have the upper hand. They demand that Lungu & Co accept their list of delegates and that both sides will respect the result of the GC no matter what.

There is going to be around 5100 delegates - 500 from each province + CC members and MPs. The Cartel is estimated to have control over 3000 of those by Zambian journalists, but those numbers may be way off.
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Andrew Cuomo vs Joseph Stalin on: November 23, 2014, 09:38:08 pm
This comes up on the front pages as Andrew Cuomo vs. Jose...
So obviously Jose Stalin. Wonderful man.


I finally thought of someone I'd vote for Cuomo against: John Calipari. I don't know if enough people know who he is for him to lose though, but he is pure evil.

You would vote for Stalin and Kim Jong-un, but not some basketball coach from Kentucky?
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 12-year-old Shot Dead by Police on: November 23, 2014, 09:19:43 pm
You should treat cops like people who might shoot you without a good reason.  You shouldn't look at them, you shouldn't talk to them and you shouldn't mess around with fake guns near cops for God's sake.  And kids in places like Cleveland should never have toy guns, it's way too dangerous. 

This is absurd.

Why would you give a cop any reason to interact with you?  They're not there to be your friend.

Well, maybe the citizen-police relationship in the US has really come to a point where no interaction is the best policy, but I still find it absurd.

Citizens shouldn't be afraid to interact with the police in a democracy - saying that you should treat the police like a foreign occupation power (no eye contact, no talk etc.) is absurd. It can only increase the alienation between citizens and police if there is no normal human interaction between them.

Police officers are meant to service and help people, so they should be on friendly term with (law abiding) citizens.
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