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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Simple Truths Silver Mine on: August 27, 2014, 04:41:59 am
I'd also like to nominate every last one of our openly Zionist posters for the title too, given that, you know, Zionism is a form of racism.

Jews are not a race, so Jewish ethnic nationalism is not racist. Modern Israel is one of the most racially diverse countries on earth with everything from blue eyed blond Russian Jews to black Ethiopian Jews and the most ardent Zionists today are descendants of Arabic Jews who looks just like other Arabs from their original countries (and share many elements of Arabic culture).
whatever the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is, its hardly a racial conflict.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Hillary is the Democrat nominee, who might her VP be? Does it really matter? on: August 26, 2014, 05:48:47 pm
What about Jay Nixon of Missouri? His handling of Ferguson could be a pretty good booster.


If that's sarcasm its too early to do that after 11 posts, you haven't earned the necessary credibility yet. If not, then you need your head examined.
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Great Nordic Thread on: August 26, 2014, 10:15:19 am
What is this Danish Whisky Belt you referred to ? I'm curious.

Its a nickname for the wealthy suburbs along the coast north of Copenhagen (the area between Hellerup and Rungsted/Vedbęk).
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 25, 2014, 10:42:10 am
Question for the Swedish posters:

Is there any other good English-speaking site besides this thread here and thelocal.se to follow election news ?

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/default.aspx?programid=2054

Thx.

Swedish police use horses ? Why not just tear-gas and water-cannon the protestors ? Probably better than having a horse trample on people's head ...



Water cannons can cause severe damages.  Horses are generally efficient in breaking up crowds, but only if the protestors actually move when they advance.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in London or Stockholm? on: August 24, 2014, 06:55:07 pm
London, absolutely. I'd do a lot of visiting battlefields and rummaging around in meadows. I'd visit York, Bosworth, Tewkesbury, Eltham manor, stop at Harrods, visit Senlac Hill (Hastings), and really do a hell of a lot of touring, yeah.

I have my passport but have never managed yet to get to England. One day!

Some of those places you listed are a bit far from London.

By American standards, no place in a European country is "far" from any other place within that same country (with the exceptions of Russia and Norway, Sweden, and Finland).


Ukraine, France and Spain are bigger than Sweden, Norway, Finland. Germany is roughly the same size as Finland.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 24, 2014, 06:30:20 pm
OK, guys, stop this. Danish and Swedish media both love to score cheap points through demonizing the other country, which affects our relations negatively. No need to keep that demonization rolling. There are things both countries can learn from each other.

What are you, a Dane?

Nah, more like a Scanian. A real Dane would not have admitted Denmark can learn anything from Sweden.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in London or Stockholm? on: August 24, 2014, 04:45:43 pm
London, if I had a lot of money, otherwise Stockholm because of all the beautiful nature surrounding it.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum racists on: August 24, 2014, 04:32:32 pm
As far as forum racists go, who could forget Richius, the vengeful South African expatriate?

This thread was basically filibustered. The forum racists (and there are quite a few of them, not all of them obviously sporting "Blue Avatars") will not be exposed in this thread because this thread was knowingly, deliberately, derailed. It's best to sweep such untidiness under the rug where it will do little harm.
The whole concept of this thread was retarded to begin with, so does it matter if it was derailed?
I think this was appropriate. You don't get to be a racist AND not get called out for it.

Such as politicus selfishly arguing for keeping people in grinding poverty on the edge of starvation, ruining their local environment to get what they can out of it with their inadequate tools or energy sources, so she can live her quaint and privileged existence in Denmark. That is the very definition of idiocy and I thank Talleyrand, a self described green, for pointing it out.

Now she accuses us of equating her with Nazis, when it was she who associated my catastrophic global warming denial with being worse than denying the systematic murder of millions of people for the crime of being "undesirable". 

As far as forum racists go, who could forget Richius, the vengeful South African expatriate?

This thread was basically filibustered. The forum racists (and there are quite a few of them, not all of them obviously sporting "Blue Avatars") will not be exposed in this thread because this thread was knowingly, deliberately, derailed. It's best to sweep such untidiness under the rug where it will do little harm.
The whole concept of this thread was retarded to begin with, so does it matter if it was derailed?
I think this was appropriate. You don't get to be a racist AND not get called out for it.

Such as politicus selfishly arguing for keeping people in grinding poverty on the edge of starvation, ruining their local environment to get what they can out of it with their inadequate tools or energy sources, so she can live her quaint and privileged existence in Denmark. That is the very definition of idiocy and I thank Talleyrand, a self described green, for pointing it out.

Now she accuses us of equating her with Nazis, when it was she who associated my catastrophic global warming denial with being worse than denying the systematic murder of millions of people for the crime of being "undesirable". 

For the last time, that wasn't my opinion, but the answer to a post about potential left wing argument against immigration. I presented 4 arguments you could use (and which I have heard used) against immigration from a left wing perspective. I don't self identify as a let winger, so when I answer a thread about whether you need to be a right winger to be anti-immigration, it is obviously not my own arguments.

I never said Talleyrand accused me of being a Nazi, just that after the apartheid

I thought you and I had sorted the whole clima change exchange and the surrounding misunderstandings out. Why do you bring that up again? (and even in a hyperbolic form). I was under the impression we had made peace.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum racists on: August 22, 2014, 09:30:08 pm
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Secondly, both of these points deals with real issues. The climate crisis and our unsustainable life style in the West that's spreading making it even harder to solve the problem + the clash between liberal Western values and traditional values in "unreformed" patriarchal societies around the world. The feeling that reactionary immigrants threatens liberal values is not racist, because its not based on race, but (elements of) culture and values. The same people being worried about this have nothing against adopted children with dark skin colour, African university professors or women's activists from the Middle East coming as refugees, they just dislike macho culture, homophobia and antisemitism and react to this being a widespread and even dominant attitudes among certain groups of immigrants (and yes, in Europe those would typically be Muslim).

If this were truly an argument based on a "liberal culture", you would also support deporting every anti-Semite, homophobe, or machoman (lol) who comes from a Western background from their country of birth, but you don't.

Not to mention that in this very post you basically admit you've painted the people of a whole faith with one brush.


1. It is a widespread argument among people in countries such as the Netherlands and Denmark who are liberal/progressive in their general worldview, so in that sense it does originate from "Liberal culture" (however you define that).

2. You cant deport people from their homeland, otherwise I have quite a few intolerant Danes I would like to get rid of Wink (which isn't very tolerant of me..).

3. Saying that most reactionary immigrants in Europe are Muslims is not saying every Muslim is intolerant. Use some reading comprehension.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum racists on: August 22, 2014, 09:07:40 pm
2. Increasing the population in countries with a high CO2 emission and high resource consumption makes it harder to combat climate change and other environmental problems. Even if immigrants have a very basic life style this is true. A poor African immigrant in Europe causes about 20 times as much CO2 emission than an average African.

3. Immigration from countries with reactionary values makes it harder to create a progressive and tolerant society. Many immigrants from non-Western countries are homophobic, sexist, anti-Jewish and - in the case of Muslims - intolerant about conversion from their own group. This puts pressure on the socially liberal society we have established and increases problems for women and minorities such as gays, Jews or atheist refugees.

I don't see how anyone could argue that either of these points, especially the latter, aren't thinly veiled racism or xenophobia.

Okay.

Firstly, this was a post in which I answered an OP that dealt with the question whether or not you could argue against immigration from a left wing POV, so its not my arguments, but potential arguments that could be used from a left wing POV. So analysis, not arguments.

Secondly, both of these points deals with real issues. The climate crisis and our unsustainable life style in the West thats spreading making it even harder to solve the problem + the clash between liberal Western values and traditional values in "unreformed" patriarchal societies around the world. The feeling that reactionary immigrants threatens liberal values is not racist, because its not based on race, but (elements of) culture and values. The same people being worried about this have nothing against adopted children with dark skin colour, African university professors or womens activists from the Middle East coming as refugees, they just dislike macho culture, homophobia and antisemitism and react to this being a widespread and even dominant attitudes among certain groups of immigrants (and yes, in Europe those would typically be Muslim).
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum racists on: August 22, 2014, 08:32:43 pm

Not to mention your inane posts about "breakdown of law and order" in South Africa post-apartheid.

The breakdown of law and order in areas of South Africa is a fact and as I specified it started prior to the fall of apartheid  (in the 80s). Cmon don't make me into an apartheid-supporter! Whats next, a Nazi?
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum racists on: August 22, 2014, 08:17:28 pm
In light of recent events, it might be time to start compiling a list of racists who frequent this forum.

Some examples which automatically come to mind are politicus and ChairmanSanchez. Any other blatant offenders?

Why? What have I said that's racist?

13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 22, 2014, 06:41:02 pm
I've already told a few people this privately but I've hesitated to tell the forum at large. I'm finally going the distance and going through a gender-presentation transition. (I'd use a less queer-theory-ese term for this but as it turns out none are really accurate.)

I understand if some of the more socon posters with whom I'm friendly aren't entirely comfortable with or accepting of this but I'd like to ask that they do the courtesy of not giving me grief over it. If anybody else gives me grief over it, I'll treat it as personal attack and use the report function accordingly.

Welcome to the girls club! Hope this choice will bring relief and clarity to your life.

You are always using very abstract terms when describing your personal evolution on these matters and like others I am curious about what this actually entails.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask Gabu on: August 22, 2014, 06:34:28 pm
Why did you name yourself after a French card game?
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What do your family and friends think when they see the Atlas Forum? on: August 22, 2014, 06:33:22 pm
16  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: A fair or unfair dismissal from a workplace canteen conversation? on: August 22, 2014, 06:04:16 pm
Clearly unfair IMO. There should be some protection of freedom of speech at the workplace. Co-workers making a big deal out of stuff like this are jerks, but as others have said, there was probalby some previous grudge against him.
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Kate Bush on: August 22, 2014, 05:42:34 pm
My favourite Bush.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: August 22, 2014, 05:40:46 pm
White people explaining black people is a time-honored forum tradition.

And you bitching about it is another.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Peter Kinder on: August 22, 2014, 05:26:37 pm
Not my kind er guy.

Kind er a douche, me thinks.



20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your relationship with your siblings like? on: August 22, 2014, 05:19:07 pm
I have a 10 year  older sister who is mentally ill, who I don't have any contact with, because she is insanely jealous and also can be quite verbally aggressive, which I am not good at handling.  She used to be an artist of sorts, when she was less ill.
My younger sister is a reporter and movie reviewer. She is a creative and nice person, but very convinced that her own opinions and bobo lifestyle is the only way to think and act, which can be annoying at times. She is also extremely busy, having 100s of balls in the air at the same time with lots of private projects. We don't see each other that often. Maybe once every 3 months.
No brothers, alas.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask Enderman on: August 22, 2014, 05:11:57 pm
1. Do you have any weird fetishes?

2. Do you ever plan to grow up? If so, what do you want to be when you grow up?

3. If you got to live in a fictional universe, which one would you choose?
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of K Foundation burn a million quid on: August 22, 2014, 05:04:34 pm
Stupid and pointless idea. Given how many needy people there are out there its unethical to destroy money. If you dont need or want them yourself, you should use them to help others.
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: It must have been just a minor childish prank, nothing serious on: August 22, 2014, 04:35:35 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/world/europe/russia-moves-artillery-units-into-ukraine-nato-says.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Ok. Now this is acknowledged officially.  Russian troops are attacking Ukrainian Army from Ukrainian territory: NATO knows it. What the hell are they planning to do about it ?!


Probably nothing. Its not their responsibility to assist Ukraine.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask RR1997 (2) on: August 22, 2014, 03:41:47 pm
1. Do you have any weird fetishes?

2. Do you plan to grow up? If so, what do you want to be when you grow up?

3. If you got to live in a fictional universe, which one would you choose?

25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best President without Military Service? (2) on: August 22, 2014, 09:54:16 am
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