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26  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Hail, Columbia! (The Election of 1880) on: April 22, 2016, 10:36:30 pm
Strauss seems decent, except for the public education thing. Robinson has terrible allies. Iglesias is also very good, but I think I want to try a fresh face this time, so Strauss.
27  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite politicians of the opposite party on: April 22, 2016, 12:03:03 am
Utah State Senator Steve Urquhart, who is retiring this year. Good man, moderate and a friend of the Utah LGBT community, despite being a Republican.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: VP Biden: US Feels Overwhelming Frustration with Israeli Government on: April 21, 2016, 12:45:49 am
What is it about Israel that makes people on both sides into effing wackos?

That's a good question, actually. On paper, it doesn't seem like it'll make people so angry and crazy.

Well, in terms of religion and ethnicity and so forth, it's been controversial for a couple thousand years.
29  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Roy Cohn on: April 20, 2016, 09:12:46 pm
Roy Cohn/Shirley Temple '84!

I see I'm not the only one who reads that timeline on AH.
30  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Christians: Most influential person in your faith? on: April 20, 2016, 09:08:26 pm
Do Mormons count as Christians? If so, the answer is easy, Joseph Smith, then Brigham Young. Then Wilford Woodruff for ending polygamy, then David O McKay for centralizing and codifying much of modern Mormon culture, then finally Spencer W. Kimball for ending the ban on black clergy in the church.
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: VP Biden: US Feels Overwhelming Frustration with Israeli Government on: April 20, 2016, 09:03:45 pm
Maybe the U.S could finally stop bending over for the Israeli puppet masters .

Uhhhh I get where you're coming from, but I think it's more that Israel does whatever it wants and the US gives them a blank check, rather than being active "puppet masters". Lobbying and creating a culture of pro-Israel in the US, sure, but not "puppet masters" as it were.
32  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Treasury Sec. to announce Harriet Tubman will replace Jackson on the $20 bill on: April 20, 2016, 08:54:33 pm
Hamilton was indefinitely horrible and worse than Jackson, and he wasn't even president, Jackson had much a larger impact then Hamilton, with Jacksonian Democracy and all that.

Really, a guy who wanted a strong central government is worse than a war criminal and slave-owner that brought about the Trail of Tears?
33  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: UT-Dan Jones & Associates: Trump-Clinton Tied on: April 20, 2016, 04:19:06 pm
38% statewide would probably mean that UT-4 would turn blue and boot Mia Love down ballot. If Democrats could gain some good footing in Salt Lake County that they could possibly make stick in the future, that would great

That's the plan. We want to make sure Mia Love loses, and to take back several legislative seats we lost in 2014. After that, there's a few more seats that are winnable. Our long-therm plan is to break the super-majority and turn it into a regular majority.

EDIT: As for my alcohol shilling remark, whether or not he personally drinks, as I understand it, he's done commercials and such in support of some alcohol beverages. Mormons might not like that, was my point.
34  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ultra-Orthadox Jews can smoke the good stuff on Passover on: April 20, 2016, 04:05:10 pm
So they can have their very own burning bush?
35  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: VP Biden: US Feels Overwhelming Frustration with Israeli Government on: April 19, 2016, 10:25:26 pm
Frankly, if it were anyone but Netanyahu or maybe the Jewish Home party in charge, the US and a lot of other nations would have a much warmer relationship with the Israeli government. Netanyahu himself and his acolytes are not earning themselves any friends.
36  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which Current Politicians will Keep Up a Public Presence Once they Leave Office? on: April 19, 2016, 10:21:04 pm
I imagine Obama will have some presence.

He'll be fairly young for an ex-president by then, so unless he intends to run off to Hawaii for 30 years...
37  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: RIP Porn on: April 19, 2016, 10:19:57 pm
Hi, speaking as a resident of the state, while I see the bill's good intentions, it's really bad in the optics, considering how most people already see Mormons (and thus Utahns) as ultra-conservative weirdos. This doesn't help, and since it's a resolution, it's effectively useless in any case.
38  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Elected Socail Democrats, (Besides Sanders) on: April 19, 2016, 11:45:30 am
Kshama Sawant isn't a social democrat, she's much farther to the left.

Isn't she literally a Trotskyist?
39  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Has anyone else noticed this during sermons? on: April 19, 2016, 02:01:25 am
Happens in the LDS Church too, though much, much rarer than in most Protestant churches.
40  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Darrell Castle? on: April 19, 2016, 01:50:38 am
He picked a Utahn for his VP so that's cool, but yeah, no, the Constitution Party is insane.
41  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: UT-Dan Jones & Associates: Trump-Clinton Tied on: April 18, 2016, 10:08:02 pm
Trump will win UT

Sure, but it'll be closer than it should be. I imagine Trump will win Utah by about 10-15%, rather than nearly 50% like Romney did.
42  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Please ban GIFs in signatures on: April 18, 2016, 10:06:13 pm
Why can't you just admit you don't like IceSpear's signature? Roll Eyes

Honestly, I just hate all the signatures with GIFs. But I'll take the first suggestion into consideration.
43  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: UT-Dan Jones & Associates: Trump-Clinton Tied on: April 18, 2016, 10:04:25 pm
Again, Mormons dislike Trump for various reasons. As others have mentioned, the perceived immorality in his personal life and his casinos and alcohol shilling is a factor, but also his anti-immigrant (there are a lot of Mormons who are Mexican, and even more who know a Mormon Mexican) and anti-refugee rhetoric. Mormons also don't trust his inconsistent views (Republican-Democrat-Reform; what political party will he belong to next?) and flip-flopping.

And his obnoxious, arrogant, and anti-humble attitude makes it even worse. Mormons prefer politicians who at least pretend to be humble. And Trump has attacked Romney, which is like someone attacking JFK at the height of Kennedy nostalgia among Catholics.
44  About this Site / The Atlas / Please ban GIFs in signatures on: April 18, 2016, 01:59:12 pm
For two reasons: 1) it's really annoying to have to scroll through a bunch of gifs in signatures in nearly every thread, and 2) it slows the loading of new pages down to a crawl. I've had to put those with GIFs in signatures on ignore, not for disagreeing with their views or anything, just that their signatures slow down my browser like crazy. It's obnoxious and surely it puts something of a cramp on the servers.

So I support a ban on GIFs in signatures. In posts? Sure, go crazy. But having GIFs pop up every time you post is just annoying.
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The new ten dollar bill to have a woman on: April 18, 2016, 01:38:59 pm
I'm all for putting a woman on the $20 bill, but I can't think of any women significant enough in US history to deserve that honor.  Maybe in 50 years we can put Hillary Clinton on as the first female president.

How about Susan B Anthony, the suffragist?
46  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Hail, Columbia! (The Election of 1876, Round 2) on: April 16, 2016, 03:26:45 pm
I really like Fremont, but Roosevelt's been doing a good job, so I have to vote to re-elect him.
47  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Why is McGinty a good candidate? on: April 16, 2016, 03:24:42 pm
She's less of a loose cannon than Sestak, I guess? Treats her staff better? (I've heard Sestak was an extremely hard boss to work for). Also, Sestak is 64 while McGinty is 52, so I suppose if you're swayed by seniority arguments, that might be a factor.

I support Sestak or Fetterman, so I don't really have much of argument for McGinty.
48  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Sanders fundraising for Zephyr Teachout, Pramila Jayapal and Lucy Flores on: April 15, 2016, 11:10:50 pm
Sean Eldridge wasn't exactly a "moderate hero". He lost by almost thirty points in 2014. I don't think Teachout with coattails of Clinton as big as those of Cuomo in 2014 can make that up.

If I recall, Sean Eldridge was basically a snobby rich guy easily portrayed as trying to buy a seat. Teachout doesn't have the same profile beyond being from NYC. Plus, doing well against Cuomo in that area should provide some cushion from those sorts of portrayals.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Edwards signs LGBT non-discrimination exec. order, against Jindal's preferences on: April 15, 2016, 09:56:06 pm
Elections matter, my fellow lefties. No way on earth Vitter would have done this.
50  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If You Could Magically Save 1 Senator in 2016 on: April 15, 2016, 09:53:42 pm
This question doesn't hold a lot of appeal for a Democrat, so I'll say Mark Begich from 2014. I think he probably could have held that seat for a few more terms and he wasn't super conservative. Now, the seat is probably lost to Republicans for a long time.

By that logic, Hagan Mark Udall is my choice.

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