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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oregon School Shooting - At Least 10 Dead on: October 02, 2015, 10:57:19 am

Except as expressly authorized by law. As in, if you had a concealed carry permit. As in, not a gun free zone. Jesus.

Facts won't stop Grumps, you know this.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama said that we have to take mass shootings as a routine. on: October 02, 2015, 10:54:28 am
But why do we have to accept mass shootings as routine? Other countries don't have to do that. I wonder why...
28  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of Hagar on: October 02, 2015, 10:52:59 am
FF, and kind of gets a rough deal with everything, considering how stereotyped her descendants are in the Old Testament (and the rest of the Jewish scriptures probably, but I haven't read those).

My favorite Biblical women are probably Deborah and Jael/Yael though. Deborah because she's a prophetess and shames Barak the Israelite commander into fighting, and Jael because she takes a hammer and tent peg and literally pounds the enemy commander's head into the ground. Both of those are pretty cool accounts.

Frankly I wish my faith would talk about these women more, and acknowledge that yes, there were prophetesses in the scriptures.
29  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Saira Blair on: October 02, 2015, 10:45:45 am
Isn't she the daughter of a powerful state senator? While I'm impressed that she won a seat at such young an age (I think there should be more young legislators, GOP or Democrat), did her dad's presence as a state senator help her get the job?
30  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: SECOND RUNOFF - Favorite Three Senators on: October 02, 2015, 10:43:23 am
Warren, Sanders, Brown in that order.
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oregon School Shooting - At Least 10 Dead on: October 02, 2015, 01:23:28 am
RIP. This happens way too often.

And if we shouldn't touch guns, then what should be done? Increase mental health funding? Well, good luck when one party is obsessed with cutting healthcare funding of all kinds. When one party refuses to fund extensive rehabilitation programs.  When one party refuses to consider almost all of the solutions, whether gun-related or not.

And this doesn't happen in other nations. What is the difference between other nations and the US?
32  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: UT Policy: Jeb Bush demolishes Clinton in Utah on: October 01, 2015, 10:13:00 pm
Did you guys record the Trump vs Clinton UT Policy poll a while back? It had Clinton within 9%, which makes UT practically a swing state (as compared to what it usually is). Lots of undecideds though, which would probably break for Trump.
33  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1992 Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: October 01, 2015, 06:00:21 pm
Well, this will be fun. I'm supporting Cuomo's re-election, but Perot winning wouldn't be too bad. Or even Lugar.
34  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Which world Leader would you vote for on: October 01, 2015, 02:37:25 pm
Viktor Orbán.

So, Putin Jr?
35  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the U.S. work more with Bashar Al-Assad in the fight against ISIS? on: October 01, 2015, 12:02:31 pm
Could Assad be persuaded to step down if he and is family is given immunity from prosecution? Surely there's some ambitious crony in the Syrian government willing to take the top seat so the big powers won't have to ally with someone so ... tainted.

That's what I would try if I were US President. Just get someone who isn't known as part of the family of the butchers of Syria, and then go from there. Unfortunately, I think the Assads love power too much, and they've invested too much of their efforts, money, and influence to stop now. If the hypothetical ambitious crony could be propped up and convinced to purge the Syrian government of the Assads though, that might work.
36  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pope Francis secretly meets with Kim Davis, tells her to "stay strong" on: October 01, 2015, 02:13:25 am
But the MSM told me that the Pope was every liberal's wet dream Cry

Sure, but he's still the Pope. There's some things he'll be conservative on since he's the boss of Catholicism.

EDIT: I also get the sarcasm. Tongue
37  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: If you could introduce a Constitutional Amendment What would it be on: September 30, 2015, 11:00:52 am
An amendment to make it easier to amend the constitution.

Pretty much. There needs to be way more amendments as is. Perhaps some way of consolidating the technical, non-civil rights ones as well (like the "who becomes President when the president dies", who becomes VP when the election is over, etc).
38  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How powerful would Rubio's Vice President be? on: September 30, 2015, 10:56:21 am
Gotta say, good riddance. Maybe now we can discuss things with a little more civility towards candidate families.
39  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How powerful would Rubio's Vice President be? on: September 30, 2015, 01:15:06 am
Remember, this is the man who can't be bothered to show up to vote in the senate. I have a feeling his presidency would be an Eisenhower redux, with Nixon and other Suits actually running things while the president plays golf. So who do you think Rubio would pick as his running mate? What is that person's character like?

Who is running Trump's empire while the statist retard runs for President? Is it the bimbo Melania? The mentally slow Ivanka? One of his jerk sons? Who?

You are just the worst. Again, personal attacks on a candidate's family, unless the family is specifically involved in politics (like Bill and Hillary Clinton), is not okay. I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand this.

EDIT: And you say "my parents taught me to be tolerant" AFTER calling people retards, bimbos, mentally slow, and jerks (though the last one isn't much of an insult)?
40  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1992 Primaries (The Hearse at Monticello) on: September 29, 2015, 09:13:59 pm
I just like Cuomo as a presidential choice; haven't really participated in many of these from the beginning before. So I'm not complaining about having Cuomo as a choice.
41  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you vote for in the Vienna state election ? on: September 29, 2015, 09:11:12 pm
Why is the FPO so far ahead of everyone else in this poll?
42  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Say something kind about a voting bloc you don't like. on: September 29, 2015, 02:02:10 am
Social conservatives generally care about people, if not always those in the groups they disagree with.
43  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Lord Melbourne on: September 29, 2015, 01:55:47 am
I don't know much about him beyond the Wikipedia page, but I do know that he was Prime Minister when my French-Canadian 4th great-grandfather was part of the Canadian rebellions against the British, and that it was his government that ordered the execution of several rebels, including my ancestor. So HP on that alone, plus he sounds like a creep anyway.
44  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1992 Primaries (The Hearse at Monticello) on: September 28, 2015, 11:57:15 pm
Cuomo of course; Clinton is untested, and Cuomo is doing just fine.
45  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the U.S. work more with Bashar Al-Assad in the fight against ISIS? on: September 28, 2015, 08:13:34 pm
Honestly, I think breaking away a high-ranking leader in Assad's government/military (that isn't directly related to Assad) might be the best bet. If we can suppress ISIS and get someone who isn't the butcher of Syria in charge (yet someone who belonged to his government to clear up fears of the Assad loyalists), then that might be the optimal route.
46  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Does Donald Trump need a haircut? on: September 28, 2015, 12:38:11 pm
I'm imagining Trump shaving himself bald and it is a horrific image.
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 80% of Republicans approve of George W. Bush, 43% would vote for him in 2016 on: September 27, 2015, 11:45:45 pm
And honestly, this is why Republicans will probably lose 2016. They haven't gotten over the Bush years and Bush mentality. Mind you, neither have the Democrats, but they don't have Bush's legacy to deal with...
48  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Minorities in the right on: September 27, 2015, 11:43:48 pm
Mia Love was promoted a lot by the right-wing media as the "first black Republican woman in Congress", which was true, but she was joining several unheralded black Democratic women, so...

Also she was the first Haitan-American in Congress altogether, and one of the first people with Afro-Caribbean ancestry in Congress, but few media sources, right or left wing, pointed that out. Our local media promoted her being black (and also Mormon) a lot, though that's a symptom of the local Mormon-influenced media here.

49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ted Cruz threatens to kill the Ayotollah, incarcerate Obama and much more on: September 27, 2015, 09:07:45 pm
Way to make Iran look reasonable by comparison. Tongue

I must have missed the part where he repeatedly threatened to wipe out everyone in Iran.

I must have missed the part where Iran ever bothered to do more than threaten either the US or Israel.
50  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of groups like AIPAC on: September 27, 2015, 09:04:57 pm
They wouldn't be so harmful if they actually had Israel's best interests in mind. Instead, they are just hacks for Netanyahu's catastrophic policies.
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