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26  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: So I went to the Salt Lake County Democratic Convention today. on: April 13, 2014, 02:48:59 pm
Also, these county conventions were a big win for diversity: if both Sandra Collins on the Dem side and Mia Love on the Republican side are elected this year (which will probably happen), Utah will have our first black woman in the legislature and also our first black woman in Congress. Love in particular will also be Utah's first black Congressperson of any kind, the first Haitian-American Representative, the first black Mormon in Congress, and first black Mormon woman Representative.

Jani Iwamoto, who won the Dem nomination for State Senate 4, may be the first or second Japanese-American woman in the Utah legislature (and could later be a Congressional candidate). We also had the chance to nominate a transgender woman, but didn't, but have nominated a woman to an open county council seat.

Additionally, the Republicans ousted a white male incumbent state rep in favor of a woman in heavily conservative West Jordan, which may be a first for that city.
27  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to free King on: April 13, 2014, 02:31:22 pm
X Zioneer

Seriously, King is alright. Maybe he did something stupid, but he's not a ridiculously annoying troll.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Carney Family's Photoshopping Fail on: April 13, 2014, 02:29:11 pm
Who honestly cares about the Carneys?
29  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1888 Conventions on: April 12, 2014, 11:00:54 pm
I like Ingalls, his platform is excellent, and at least he's not yet another Mormon I mindlessly vote for. Tongue
30  General Politics / Individual Politics / So I went to the Salt Lake County Democratic Convention today. on: April 12, 2014, 08:23:39 pm
Don't know if this is the right section, but here goes.

So a while back I was elected as a delegate and as a precinct chair for my precinct, and thus had the honor of going to the Salt Lake County and Utah statewide Democratic conventions as a delegate. Today, I went to the Salt Lake County Democratic Convention. Here's a rough overview of interesting things that happened. Feel free to ask further questions (or for mods, move it if it's in the wrong place). And apologies for the stream-of-thought post.

General things:
-Good turnout, probably about a thousand or 1100 attendees.

-Utah Dems really love their amendments to amendments.

-Everything was about half an hour late.

-The County Party platform was modified to be more liberal on healthcare and labor issues, while affordable housing was modified with more moderate phrasing.

-There was one guy who was really insistent on changing the phrasing on "democratic republic" to democracy, on the grounds that he hated the Utah GOP's use of "constitutional compound republic". Said guy was also responsible for the more liberal phrasing on healthcare and labor.

-The Progressive and LDS Dems Caucuses were fun, with about a turnout of about 35 in the Prog caucus and 300 or so in the LDS Dems. In the Progressive Caucus, I managed to succeed in a motion to establish a free Youtube channel for all SLCO Dems to use, even if they're a "ballot-only" candidate. It was a unanimous vote. In the LDS Caucus, it was more candidates talking at us.

State Senate
-Former State Senator Ross Romero was crushed by former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Jani Iwamoto, which was surprising to everyone. Since they had represented the same area at the same time, everyone thought it would go to a primary, with a slight advantage to Romero due to his longer service. He was crushed 117 to 71. Both were center-lefty, and it's a safe-ish Dem district, so either would have been fine. There's rumors of foul play by Iwamoto (busing in Republicans, basically) though.

State House

-In HD 23, for retiring Dem Jen Seelig's Salt Lake City-based seat, Sandra Hollins, a social health worker, beat substitute teacher and long-time Dem activist Jason Wessel and Frank Bedolla (a worker with disadvantaged kids, I think?). Of note is that Bedolla (who was eliminated first) was Hispanic, Wessel is wheelchair-bound, and Sandra Hollins is a black lady. The district itself is heavily Democratic and heavily Hispanic.

-A Michael D. Lee (no relation to Mike Lee) is running for retiring Dem Janice Fisher's district, HD 30. This is a very competitive district and Lee has a strong Republican opponent, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

-The SLCO LDS Dem chair Alain Balmanno (who is apparently a Mormon from New Jersey with a thick Jersey accent) is running against LaVar Christensen in HD42. He unfortunately doesn't have much of a chance (LaVar's last opponent only got 33% in 2012), but an interesting guy.

-HD 38 has a contested race between Elias McGraw (a Hispanic police retired  officer and the 2012 candidate for this district), and Chrystal Butterfield, who I know nothing about. Assuming McGraw wins, he'll face incumbent Republican Eric Hutchings, whom he got within a 1,000 votes of beating in 2012.

-in HD 40, Incumbent Lynn Hemingway is retiring, and Justin J Miller won heavily over Sophia Hawes and Amy Fowler. Miller was a former campaign manager for Salt Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams, and was endorsed by both McAdams and Hemingway. Hawes was a social worker, I think, while Fowler was a criminal defense attorney. Hawes was also transgender, but the district seems to be relatively tolerant, so I don't think that contributed to her defeat. Miller was just a really good candidate.

-There was also a two-way convention fight in HD 49, but other than Zach Robinson winning over Mark Quigley (both were also 2012 candidates) to have the right to lose to appointed incumbent Robert Spendlove, I know nothing about the district.

Countywide
-We only had one contested race, County Auditor.

-Judging from the speeches that were given, the uncontested candidates are ready to go against the Republicans.

-County Auditor candidate Chris Stout will go into a primary with Jeff Hatch, which is surprising as Jeff Hatch used to be County Auditor from 2006 to 2010, and Stout has been an unsuccessful candidate for 2 separate offices over the last 4 years. Stout had endorsements from all over the board, from progressives (he is SLCO Progressive Chair, by the way), to establishment, while most of Hatch's support was establishment. Stout had 54%, so looks to be in a good position going in.

-Incumbent Republican County Auditor Gregory Hawkins lost his bid for re-election; his challenger (Scott Tingley) got 69% so it will not even go to a primary. This is bad for Dems, as we all assumed Hawkins would win and focused our rhetoric on him.

-Incumbent Dem County Sheriff Jim Winder seriously sounds like a pro wrestling announcer when he's talking. "DEMOCRATS! ARE YOU READY TO GO?!?"

-Incidentally, I voted for Chris Stout for County Auditor, but had no other contested races in my area.

-Also, former Murray Mayor Dan Snarr, a man with a 22-inch handlebar mustache is running for County Council and was at the convention.
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Less people think ACA will hurt them, more think it will have no effect on: April 11, 2014, 06:54:25 pm
Excellent. Looks like 2014 won't be a wipe-out at least on that issue.
32  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Investment banker goes rogue, launches Warrenite populist campaign in NY on: April 11, 2014, 06:42:54 pm
Hey, if he's honest with the policies and doesn't get into too much trouble, he can go ahead and be a Warrenite.

Also his name is the best.
33  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ben Stein's "humble observation": Poor people are lazy, ugly, drunken dumbs on: April 10, 2014, 09:21:55 pm
Two more ignores for the pile, I suppose.
34  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Bhutanese Government on: April 10, 2014, 09:18:57 pm
Fantastic overview, Nathan. I was vaguely aware that Bhutan mistreated it's Nepalese minority, but I wasn't aware of the details, or really anything but that and the Asian Elvis thing. Thanks for explaining.
35  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Papyrus Referring to Jesus' Wife Likely Genuine, Scientists Say on: April 10, 2014, 09:12:48 pm
Oddly enough, while my church believes that God has a wife, we don't generally believe that Jesus had a wife.
36  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Of the two major US parties, which is hurt more by low turnout? on: April 10, 2014, 02:09:45 pm
Easily the Democrats, because for whatever reason, the Dem base doesn't seem to think voting is as important as the GOP base does.
37  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Bhutanese Government on: April 10, 2014, 12:03:36 pm
Absolutely horrible and evil, particularly in the light of the constant praise the west showers on it.

To be fair, the only thing most Americans who know anything about Bhutan know is that their king looks like an Asian Elvis.

But yeah, after reading just a few articles about Bhutan, it's pretty terrifyingly awful.
38  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ben Stein's "humble observation": Poor people are lazy, ugly, drunken dumbs on: April 09, 2014, 11:49:35 pm
And they call liberals elitists...
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Chasing Sean Eldridge (Politico) on: April 09, 2014, 07:55:37 pm
Gibson is a talent, so this might be a landslide loss for Eldridge.

At least Gibson probably doesn't have much appeal outside of his district...
40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill, 53-44 on: April 09, 2014, 12:11:52 pm

Wait, I thought King was a progressive-ish type?
41  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1884 U.S. Presidential Election on: April 09, 2014, 12:10:33 pm
Well, as of 1884 he's 24, so he won't be showing up until at least 1896.
42  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Chasing Sean Eldridge (Politico) on: April 09, 2014, 10:15:45 am
It pains me to see terrible Dem campaigns like this. For one thing it seems incredibly entitled to just shop around for a Congressional seat, and for another, Eldrige (or his campaign manager) is running a bad campaign. I mean come on, I could run a better campaign than that.

Don't like the Hudsonites? Too bad, you decided to go to this district, get out there and shake some hands. Make your newcomer status a strength. Say you're willing to listen to Hudsonites and to take the time to learn what they need, unlike the current incumbent. Throw a few million at a turncoat Hudson Republican or something, to at least tell you how to appeal to the district and/or endorse you publicly. Feel entitled to a Congressional seat? Too bad, you could've primaried an NYC Democrat! Get out there, talk to the Hudsonites, actually try to figure out what they want, be visibly seen with them, tell the freaking reporters where you're going when campaigning!

Or maybe you could've waited a couple of years to allow your cheap loans to take affect (while still visibly being seen in the district). Gah, it boils my blood to see such terrible campaigns in a theoretically winnable district. It's not like Utah where unless your first name is Jim and your last name Matheson, you can't win anything apart from a Salt Lake City based state house district, no matter how well you campaign.

I mean, even just throwing money at a different Dem challenger to Gibson would've been better than this.

Martha Coakley, House edition.

Fair enough. Though wasn't there a Republican recently who thought he/she was entitled to a seat and fared very badly in the election?
43  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Chasing Sean Eldridge (Politico) on: April 09, 2014, 09:34:46 am
It pains me to see terrible Dem campaigns like this. For one thing it seems incredibly entitled to just shop around for a Congressional seat, and for another, Eldrige (or his campaign manager) is running a bad campaign. I mean come on, I could run a better campaign than that.

Don't like the Hudsonites? Too bad, you decided to go to this district, get out there and shake some hands. Make your newcomer status a strength. Say you're willing to listen to Hudsonites and to take the time to learn what they need, unlike the current incumbent. Throw a few million at a turncoat Hudson Republican or something, to at least tell you how to appeal to the district and/or endorse you publicly. Feel entitled to a Congressional seat? Too bad, you could've primaried an NYC Democrat! Get out there, talk to the Hudsonites, actually try to figure out what they want, be visibly seen with them, tell the freaking reporters where you're going when campaigning!

Or maybe you could've waited a couple of years to allow your cheap loans to take affect (while still visibly being seen in the district). Gah, it boils my blood to see such terrible campaigns in a theoretically winnable district. It's not like Utah where unless your first name is Jim and your last name Matheson, you can't win anything apart from a Salt Lake City based state house district, no matter how well you campaign.

I mean, even just throwing money at a different Dem challenger to Gibson would've been better than this.
44  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Ron Johnson on: April 08, 2014, 03:58:23 pm
horrible.

but i didnt mind seeing the self righteous russ feingold lose.

Are you serious? Feingold was just fine as a Democrat.
45  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Shenna Bellows on: April 08, 2014, 11:37:52 am
Isn't she pro gun?
Yep. A former NRA member, so she's really too libertarian for my tastes, to. She's more of a spokesperson for the ACLU than anything else (the same group that thinks gun control violates privacy and civil liberties), so if Collins does step down in 2020, hopefully we can get someone like Mike Michaud to run who can appeal to others besides lefties.

Narrow FF regardless because I agree with her on most other things besides guns and drugs.

The more I see your stated political stances, the less I'm sure what they actually are.
Huh I've always been pro-gun control and have had moderately social views.

Huh, I must have been confusing you with someone else then. My bad. Though I would say that decriminalization of specific drugs would reduce the gang/cartel trade of those drugs, and thus make guns less of a problem.
46  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Ron Johnson on: April 08, 2014, 11:33:35 am
He's so boring I forget about him half the time, but he's HP on the issues. I hope Feingold or Ron Kind destroy him politically in 2016.
47  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Quebec: April 7, 2014 on: April 08, 2014, 11:31:15 am
Are there any good articles about what this election means for Quebec?
48  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: NM-PPP: Martinez popular, leads King on: April 08, 2014, 02:38:54 am
I think that at least in 2014, Martinez will be like Scott Walker; theoretically beatable, but with just enough support to win.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Americans on Medicaid exceed population of the UK by more than 10 million on: April 08, 2014, 02:21:40 am
I would've qualified for the Medicaid expansion, but since Corbett rejected it, I fell into the coverage gap instead. Please tell me more about how there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans, True Leftists. Roll Eyes

Oh, I'm not dismissing Medicaid expansion at all. I'm just saying that it'd be nice if we had single-payer, especially with a program proven to work like Medicaid. Smiley
50  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Shenna Bellows on: April 08, 2014, 01:55:11 am
Isn't she pro gun?
Yep. A former NRA member, so she's really too libertarian for my tastes, to. She's more of a spokesperson for the ACLU than anything else (the same group that thinks gun control violates privacy and civil liberties), so if Collins does step down in 2020, hopefully we can get someone like Mike Michaud to run who can appeal to others besides lefties.

Narrow FF regardless because I agree with her on most other things besides guns and drugs.

The more I see your stated political stances, the less I'm sure what they actually are.
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