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1  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Christianity on: Today at 12:25:44 pm
One reason why this particular board is so absolutely and utterly dire is that it is full of people who believe themselves to be knowledgeable about subjects on which they are actually totally ignorant.
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: Today at 12:22:41 pm
They're currently polling at less than half their vote from the last election. That's kind of unprecedented.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: October 2014 Presidential Debate on: Today at 12:16:40 pm
This is quite simple, and thanks for asking the question. I hope to bring Reality to Atlasia; not to end the fantasy, but to banish the delusion. Recent events, puerile and disgraceful as I'm sure all right-thinking people agree, demonstrate the importance of this. We must expel those elements from our fantasy society that destroy it by breaking its implicit rules. We must turn back the clock on certain idiotic and damaging developments imposed by halfwit politicians over the past five years. We must be cruel to be kind: the gibbering buffoons will swing gently in the nighttime air, as will all those who stand with them. I propose what no other candidate dares to even contemplate. If I am elected and if I am successful in office, our fantasy Republican will have transcended completely its current pathetic, petty and sordid state. As a great man said, you cannot break an omelette without breaking eggs. I am the only candidate happy to break a few eggs. I don't need to go into further detail: you all know where I stand.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 House Election Polls / Re: CO-06: Coffman in the lead on: October 19, 2014, 01:37:49 pm
Sbane is basically correct; the 2002 map (particularly after the 2004 redoodles in Texas and Georgia) was also presumed to be rock solid.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: October 19, 2014, 01:03:08 pm
The list and the thinking behind it is kind of delusional, but that's to be expected from the Greens.
6  General Discussion / History / Re: Britain's most racist election, 50 years on (Smethwick 1964) on: October 18, 2014, 01:51:17 pm
It's uncertain whether there actually were leaflets or window bills (the former has always struck me as a later embellishment given the way elections were fought in the area at the time; the latter is plausible, but, yes, there is no hard evidence), but it's absolutely certain that 'if you want a nigger neighbour, vote Labour' was an election chant used in Smethwick in the mid 1960s. Absolutely certain because on a previous occasion (the 1962 or 1963 municipal elections) Griffiths had denied responsibility for it, and claimed (quite disingenuously) that it was spontaneously created by local children - the tradition in the West Midlands was to use children to spread slurs against opposing candidates; it was effective, cheap, left no paper trail and every party did it - who were, in turn, merely reflecting the understandable views of their parents. People can draw their own conclusions.

Still, it's important to remember that what happened in Smethwick in 1964 was hardly atypical. The backlash against immigration in the West Midlands was extremely strong (stronger than anywhere else in the country; I wonder whether part of the issue was that it was happening at the same time as the giant redevelopment and slum clearance projects of the era, which were pursued with greater enthusiasm in Birmingham and surrounds than just about anywhere south of Newcastle) and it generally took the form of overt racism. It was a problem even in local Unions (and on this point much worse in the Black Country, for whatever reason, than in Birmingham), to say nothing of the more obvious suspects in the local press. Politically, Labour was the least racist party in the area but was hardly racism-free (c.f. Harry Watton, the Daleyesque leader of Birmingham City Council in the early 60s, mentioned at a public forum that he had once spoken to the Jamaican Prime Minister and told him that he did not want any Jamaicans in his city) meaning that there's nothing to crow about. Birmingham Labour made no serious attempt to seek the votes of the (overwhelmingly working class and often unionised) new immigrants until about 1967 or so. The issues with the Tories are well known (and not just because of Griffiths), but I've always thought it odd that no one seems to remember that the Liberal revival in parts of the area was firmly anchored to white-backlash politics. If history has been unfair to Peter Griffiths and the Smethwick Tories, it's because it's largely forgotten Wallace Lawler and the Ladywood Liberals...
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Official 2014-15 Club Soccer/Football Discussion Thread on: October 18, 2014, 12:57:11 pm
There was no football today.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What's the oldest book you own ? on: October 17, 2014, 06:21:25 pm
Dodís Parliamentary Companion...

I bought the 1967 edition recently; another (more innocent?) world in certain respects.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 House Election Polls / Re: MN-08: SUSA: Nolan down 8 (!) on: October 17, 2014, 01:10:09 pm
SUSA in Minnesota is historically pretty weird. I don't really buy this.

By 'historically pretty weird' you mean, of course, 'so heavily slanted to the GOP that they're worse than useless'. Though as (alas) this district fell in 2010 we should avoid complacency...
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What's the oldest book you own ? on: October 17, 2014, 01:00:46 pm
It's probably pretty valuable, but I have't treated it very well-I use is as a lap desk Sad .

Which means you've treated it considerably better than many old books over the centuries. Some very valuable volumes have even been used as ash trays...
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you think the letter on the left side of this "Krone" page is racist ? on: October 17, 2014, 12:59:42 pm
Oh Austria...
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK local by-elections 2014 on: October 17, 2014, 12:33:04 pm
A little something for everybody by the looks of that. What a considerate electorate we sometimes have.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: October 17, 2014, 12:30:50 pm
Why would UKIP being in favour of changing the electoral system make such a change more likely to happen? The LibDems (and their Alliance and Liberal predecessors) have been in favour - and a relevant political force - for even longer, and yet...
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What's the oldest book you own ? on: October 16, 2014, 06:20:35 pm
Personally? I think its (oh dear this is embarrassing) a late 19th century edition of Hegel...
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: At last; 2007 Scottish Parliamentary Election by ward. on: October 16, 2014, 06:12:07 pm
Loving the friends and neighbours effect in the Western Isles.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: October 16, 2014, 01:47:42 pm
Given that the exit poll at the last GE was more accurate than the campaign period polls, presumably.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Democrats - are you panicking right now? on: October 15, 2014, 01:33:25 pm
Politics is all about ebb and flow; you have to learn how to take the occasional defeat on the chin. Anyone who can't manage that should find something else to care about.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LUMINE IS A SEPERATIST - VOTE AGAINST THIS TRAITOR on: October 15, 2014, 01:28:27 pm
Quit putting words in Lumines mouth.

I have done no such thing. I have merely derived (I believe correctly) the true meaning from his somewhat cryptic statement. Of course I fully understand that the concept of interpretation is alien to a semi-literate fundamentalist halfwit such as yourself.
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread on: October 15, 2014, 12:43:03 pm
Oh Naso, you such a racist.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LUMINE IS A SEPERATIST - VOTE AGAINST THIS TRAITOR on: October 15, 2014, 12:36:12 pm
I think it's clear that when he said 'I oppose the compromise' what he meant was that he thought President Cranberry didn't go far enough in terms of appeasing these Googoojajajaaaland 'rebels'. A stance that I, and all other right thinking people, find to be both appalling and treasonous.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: favorite dumb posts from other forums on: October 15, 2014, 12:33:27 pm
Sorry, but...

Any number of things I've seen on Stormfront, which I wouldn't really feel comfortable posting here.

...what? You post on Stormfront? The fyck?
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International What-ifs / Re: What parties would you be in other countries? on: October 15, 2014, 11:22:50 am
Atlas attracts the weirdest people sometimes. I don't particularly like this fact.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / LUMINE IS A SEPERATIST - VOTE AGAINST THIS TRAITOR on: October 15, 2014, 11:16:59 am
On the question of President Cranberry's treasonous backing of Ganaoanaoananayajsjajaja (or whatever the fyck that is) separatism:

I understand Cranberry's intention...

Clearly Senator Lumine is a not-so-secret separatist. Separatism is treason. Vote against this madness.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The White House's Public Office - President Cranberry - Statement on: October 15, 2014, 11:12:51 am
lol
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: October 2014 Presidential Debate on: October 15, 2014, 10:08:42 am
I picked Hashemite as my running mate as he is a member of a backwards caste. It is important to promote the interests of the backwards castes over the forwards ones, in order to move forward greatly the wheelbarrow of progress. His functions will be to do whatever the hell it is vice presidents do.
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