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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Hillary Clinton decided to run again in 2020... on: January 21, 2017, 04:42:31 pm
And just to clarify, she did not let us down. We let her down. Get that straight.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Donald Trump wins reelection in 2020, how will you feel? on: January 16, 2017, 08:33:08 pm
Well, it'll be the BernBots' fault either way.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Meryl Streep on: January 10, 2017, 02:18:50 am
Her criticisms of Donald Trump's rhetoric targeting minorities and immigrants, and his horrendous mocking of a disabled reporter, all of which deserve constant criticism, were applause worthy. However, for Meryl Streep, the epitome of Hollywood elitism and snobbishness, to come forth and proclaim "oh, woe is us" regarding the real (and not entirely undeserved) vilification of the Hollywood social scene is annoying. Yes, the entertainment industry is often laudably inclusive of minorities and immigrants (although there are still some real struggles with inequality), but it is not some endangered, underprivileged group. They fear whom, exactly? I'd wager their venom would be primarily directed at "rednecks" and "white trash" who "simply don't get us."

Hollywood is out of touch. They live a lifestyle that is incompatible with the social justice they often proclaim from their elegant pulpits. So no, I don't care what Meryl Streep had to say. I appreciate the performances that her and those in her industry do to express themselves and entertain us, but she can stop the "woe is us, the unimaginably rich and famous" shtick.

Um, the whole point of the speech was to remind the people in the room that although they are vilified, they occupy important and enormous pedestals of influence, from which they should continue to acknowledge their privilege, align themselves with those who are more vulnerable, and hold bullsh-t to account. No "woe is us," except to acknowledge that it's kind of sh-tty to be some of the only rich people in the country who actually align themselves with progressive causes, but then get shat on by the hicks and rubes who are more content to shoot themselves in the foot with Donald Trump.

Oh no, there goes Hagrid talking about hicks and rubes!

They'll learn their lesson yet.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which sitting GOP governors and senators do you think voted for Clinton in November? on: January 09, 2017, 06:26:48 pm
McCain, Graham, Murkowski, Collins, Baker, Sandoval... hmm...
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will we see the GOP pass The Stop Online Piracy Act on: January 08, 2017, 03:29:58 pm
Trump knows that his band of internet soldiers would absolutely not go for SOPA. He'd make it clear he has other priorities and will advise that Congress not pursue it. If they do, he'll veto the bill. I'm pretty sure. Believe me.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democrats and Democrat voters of 2016, what would cause you to vote Trump? on: January 08, 2017, 12:37:14 pm
Absolutely nothing. He has made himself irredeemable.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which Democrat would you want to be the nominee for president in 2020 on: January 08, 2017, 12:32:05 pm
Hillary Clinton, but I would support any Democrat except Bernie Sanders in the next cycle. If Bernie is the nominee, I will support Jill Stein or whatever other candidate the Green Party runs.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Russia's influence on: January 07, 2017, 04:07:16 pm
1. The election was EXTREMELY CLOSE, regardless of the post-game descriptions we have all heard.
2. The Russians definitely did their best to sabotage Clinton's image.
3. Any slight increase in Clinton's support swings the election to her.
Therefore, I would say that the Russian influence DEFINITELY swung the election to Trump. Without it, we are now discussing the incoming Clinton administration.

Indeed, this needs to be the talk of every single Democrat who goes on TV for the next year+
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: As an indy candidate, who Romney would have chose as his running mate in 2016? on: January 07, 2017, 03:58:55 am
He would have picked a Latino/a.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic legislators looking to keep Trump off 2020 ballots unless he releases taxes on: January 05, 2017, 11:11:53 pm
Raise Hell however possible. I support this move.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why did Hillary Clinton swing towards an extreme pro-abortion position? on: January 05, 2017, 11:12:06 am
Sometimes what's right isn't what's popular. Hence her hesitancy to embrace Bernie Sanders' dishonest "free everything" platform (though he certainly pulled her to the edge).

Yeah, letting people die because they can't afford healthcare is definitely the right thing to do. How principled. Roll Eyes

Aw, that's a very pretty strawman you've built there, Antonio. <3

Sometimes what's right isn't what's popular. Hence her hesitancy to embrace Bernie Sanders' dishonest "free everything" platform (though he certainly pulled her to the edge).

Healthcare and college are not "everything."

Quite rich coming from you, considering you get free healthcare and very cheap college tuition in your country.

Dear, my health care isn't "free," nor would Bernie Sanders' be. That aside, I'm not complaining about single-payer in the abstract. In the abstract, the idea is grand. But no political issue exists in the abstract, and I do certainly believe it is dishonest and frankly unhelpful to suggest that single-payer would currently fly in the US.

This may sound ridiculous to those who have crafted the opposite narrative, but Hillary Clinton mostly ran on an honest platform outlining things that were at least within the realm of achievable. When she goes into the nuance of late-term abortions, it may not be popular to actually consider who would be getting these abortions (and why), but it's probably the right thing to do, and anyone who does would have to at least admit that there are legitimate reasons for why the option of getting a late-term abortion might be important to maintain. Few people do though, especially politicians, because the politics aren't good. Too bad. Hillary priced out her plans, considered what would be doable, and had the audacity to put forward an incremental but significant agenda. Sadly, while government runs on incrementalism, campaigns don't.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Where have you flown this year? on: January 04, 2017, 09:53:39 pm
Damn, Nutmeg seems rich. Congrats.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Herr Fuhrer's Coronation (January 20th) on: January 04, 2017, 09:48:47 pm
The Alt-right generally keeps such displays in their basements or at their political gatherings.

Is this not what his Inauguration will be?
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why did Hillary Clinton swing towards an extreme pro-abortion position? on: January 04, 2017, 09:16:30 pm
Sometimes what's right isn't what's popular. Hence her hesitancy to embrace Bernie Sanders' dishonest "free everything" platform (though he certainly pulled her to the edge).
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will repealing Obamacare be Trump's death wish? on: January 04, 2017, 09:03:24 pm
He's consistently said repeal and replace, so I think we'll be fine

Yes, because if there's one thing Donald Trump is, it's "consistent."

Roll Eyes
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you own guns? on: January 02, 2017, 02:28:19 pm
No. I am not a maniac.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The Death of Clintonism on: January 02, 2017, 02:15:15 pm
Hillary Clinton ran on the most progressive platform of basically any mainstream nominee ever, was one of the most liberal members of the senate during her tenure there, and has consistently stood up for those who have fallen through the cracks.

This idea that she's some kind of moderate is ridiculous. She and her husband decided in the 90s that the political reality of the day meant they could either get nothing accomplished or meager versions of what they wanted accomplished. They decided some action was better than none.

And now they're sellouts. Roll Eyes
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Has Anyone on Atlas Ever Dated Another Atlas Poster? on: January 01, 2017, 06:42:26 pm
I haven't, but I do have an interesting f-ck pact (if he actually remembers).
I never forgot Tongue

If I knew what you looked like I might not say no. Wink
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Your reaction if Hillary Clinton announced a bid for NY Governor on: January 01, 2017, 05:47:00 pm
She'd be the instant favorite, but I don't know how enthusiastic I'd be about her candidacy.  She let us down, after all.

Seems a lot more like the American people let her down, if you ask me.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Study: Sanders 'America' ad made viewers happiest on: December 31, 2016, 02:43:25 pm
Roll Eyes
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Has Anyone on Atlas Ever Dated Another Atlas Poster? on: December 31, 2016, 03:03:56 am
I haven't, but I do have an interesting f-ck pact (if he actually remembers).
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would Pence have done against Hillary? on: December 27, 2016, 03:29:38 pm
Donald Trump was the strongest GOP candidate and still lost the national popular vote.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Duck Dynasty viewerships strongly correlates with votes for Donald Trump on: December 27, 2016, 03:25:36 pm
I like this part:

If you had to guess how strongly a place supported Donald J. Trump in the election, would you rather know how popular 'Duck Dynasty' is there, or how George W. Bush did there in 2000? It turns out the relationship with the TV show is stronger.

As I have said, conservativism is not about policy or a coherent ideology—it is almost entirely cultural.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Local leaders of Team Bernie: We begged & Team Hill Ignored Us in Swing States on: December 23, 2016, 10:34:11 am
Bernie's people also thought he could win the nomination by locking up New York, Pennsylvania, and California, which prompted him to stay in the race long past the point at which he had basically already lost.

So forgive me for not putting special faith in "local leaders of Team Bernie."
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Romney had ran again in 2016, could he have beaten Trump? on: December 23, 2016, 10:24:43 am
Trump was a very strong candidate and totally tapped into the psyches of the Republican base. Romney would have had more of a shot then any of the other establishment candidates, but I think Trump was favoured from the start and no one really realized.
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