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1  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is wearing a native american costume in the carnival racism? on: July 31, 2015, 06:40:56 pm
Yes, it's cultural appropriation. It's not the same as dressing up as a Roman or a Viking because it perpetuates the misinformation that Native American cultures are dead or frozen in the past. Ceremonial Native American garb has real meaning to contemporary people. It is not our place to make a mockery of it. Having a white person where it as a carnival costume is necessarily an inappropriate context for that type of outfit.

Plus, setting aside the spiritual meanings, it's about as sensitive as dressing up as an Arab or Chinese person.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 29, 2015, 04:53:01 pm


you build your theology around me... I'm flattered.

seriously though Hagrid, it's sad to see you so having so much hate that hell is the one piece of religion you still want to hang onto.

I don't think it's absurd to harbour some hatred towards people who hide behind outlandish fairy tales in order to justify their oppression of an already-marginalized group—especially since I happen to be a member of that group.

I don't believe in Hell. But if the freedom of religion excuse is going to be used to give people an out to discriminate against me and others like me, I think they ought to hold a mirror up before they judge the character of someone else. Plus, if that's what someone's religion honestly is, maybe it's time to spread the truth that the religion is in the wrong rather than let the discrimination continue. And if it does continue, they shouldn't expect upstanding citizens to just roll over. After all, using their strict rules, an unbiased observer may find that these oppressors are more deserving of a ticket on the Hell-bound train than a man who's simply trying to live equally among his peers while loving another man.

So I agree with you, shua: It's sad that I have this hate. I'm no saint. But who's hatred is coming from the more legitimate place? Who's really the victim? I'm sure you'll give some middle-of-the-road answer, but I'd say it's pretty clear who threw the first stone.

Christianity has a place in our society, but as long as it continues to use its influence to put down others, it's place will rightfully continue to diminish.


"Christianity has a place in our society as long as it moulds itself to conveniently fit 'who I am' as a person".

Yes, because there's only one gay person in the world, you see.  Roll Eyes

Some estimates put the non-straight population as high as 10%. People can't control their sexual orientation. Having a religion that discriminates against that is not ideal by any stretch. It's not complicated. And "hate the sin not the sinner" may sound good to people who want to trick themselves into believing they're doing good deeds, but that isn't how real life works, especially when we're dealing with something as intrinsic as a person's identity.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 29, 2015, 02:19:07 pm


you build your theology around me... I'm flattered.

seriously though Hagrid, it's sad to see you so having so much hate that hell is the one piece of religion you still want to hang onto.

I don't think it's absurd to harbour some hatred towards people who hide behind outlandish fairy tales in order to justify their oppression of an already-marginalized group—especially since I happen to be a member of that group.

I don't believe in Hell. But if the freedom of religion excuse is going to be used to give people an out to discriminate against me and others like me, I think they ought to hold a mirror up before they judge the character of someone else. Plus, if that's what someone's religion honestly is, maybe it's time to spread the truth that the religion is in the wrong rather than let the discrimination continue. And if it does continue, they shouldn't expect upstanding citizens to just roll over. After all, using their strict rules, an unbiased observer may find that these oppressors are more deserving of a ticket on the Hell-bound train than a man who's simply trying to live equally among his peers while loving another man.

So I agree with you, shua: It's sad that I have this hate. I'm no saint. But who's hatred is coming from the more legitimate place? Who's really the victim? I'm sure you'll give some middle-of-the-road answer, but I'd say it's pretty clear who threw the first stone.

Christianity has a place in our society, but as long as it continues to use its influence to put down others, it's place will rightfully continue to diminish.
4  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Provisional Parliament on: July 28, 2015, 12:29:53 pm
We started a week ago. It is not late in the game. You guys are so boring.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas vs. AAD? on: July 27, 2015, 08:09:26 pm
AAD is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, while this place is brimming with incompetence and hypocrisy. Both are disappointing lately.
6  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Unofficial Name Poll on: July 27, 2015, 03:32:03 pm
The whole point of this sim is to do something interesting just for the sake of it. To call it South America is  boring.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 27, 2015, 10:06:09 am
It's exactly why I have turned so sharply against religion. There is no room for critical thinking. You just have to unflinchingly accept whatever biblical interpretation comes down the pipe. What a great thing for society—we need more of that!

Roll Eyes
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 27, 2015, 09:42:38 am
Basically, the Bible is for the Church to interpret, not a gaggle of random posters on an internet forum. Debate closed.

Uh, the Bible is for God's children, not a group of robed elitists in a dark room.

And with your logic we might as well shut down the whole forum.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: July 27, 2015, 09:38:06 am
Someone or some guy? Tongue
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 27, 2015, 01:17:44 am
I hope Hell exists.



Who are you hoping to hang out with?

Not you.
11  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Provisional Parliament: Voting on Bill 0-2 on: July 26, 2015, 05:40:42 pm
So we're really going to call our country "South America" without any discussion?

No objections were to the amendment were voiced during the allotted debate time. If you have a problem with it, I advise you to vote against.

I'm not an MP.
12  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Provisional Parliament: Voting on Bill 0-2 on: July 26, 2015, 02:00:20 am
So we're really going to call our country "South America" without any discussion?
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 26, 2015, 12:48:16 am
I hope Hell exists.

Why? Opposition to gay marriage isn't sinful, so it's not like JCL would go there.

Of course, I'd leave it to God to decide. And I don't think he's as pea-brained as many of his followers. Love is love; hate is hate. He knows what's up.
14  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Provisional Parliament: Voting on size of parliament on: July 25, 2015, 10:02:39 pm
Sudamerica is okay. South America sounds so clinical.

Or even something like "Amerigo," in honour of the explorer who realized Columbus was stupid.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 25, 2015, 09:49:24 pm
I hope Hell exists.

16  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Conservative Party on: July 25, 2015, 11:37:11 am
I think that's the best idea. I don't want to invoke Atlasia too much, but if you look at the most successful members of the Labor Party, they fell into (generally) two camps: those who were best at operating the party machine (e.g., Adam Griffin), and those who were legislative powerhouses (e.g., TNF). Separating those roles makes for a fantastic balance. I wish I'd had someone covering the policy side of things when I was Federalist Chairman, for example, because that was absolutely not my strong point.
17  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Unofficial Setting Pro/Con List on: July 25, 2015, 09:00:51 am
Yeah, I will say I'm slightly disappointed about how South America was chosen. If the North American proposal was Bill 1 instead of Bill 2, things might have been completely different.

Oh well...
18  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Provisional Parliament: Debating electoral system on: July 25, 2015, 08:58:40 am
There could be some sort of formula for number of MPs based on population size. Or if not a formula, then an openness the increase the size of parliament as the country grows. The Canadian House of Commons adds risings fairly frequently, for example. Just something to think about it we do eventually find ourselves with a population of 150+.
19  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Provisional Parliament: Worldbuilding proposals now being debated on: July 23, 2015, 01:11:10 pm
I have to chime in and urge the members of this body to consider the long-term implications of a South America scenario. We are trying to build a simulation with longevity. We want a game that will be able to create its own history and run itself with old members cycling out and new members cycling in. This group is the most enthusiastic group of participants we will probably ever have, because we have the wherewithal and dedication to build this game from the ground up. New members will not have the same knowledge base or dedication to making this work. And if we pick South America, which relatively few people know much about, I think we would immediately limit the potential of this sim.

Scenario two makes this place accessible to vast majority of people who would want to play the game and immediately gives it a relevant context in the shenanigans of Atlasia... something with which virtually all of us are familiar as we get started.
20  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Office of GM Foucaulf - WORLDBUILDING PROPOSALS ON PG. 2 on: July 23, 2015, 01:05:01 pm
I don't know anything about these countries or the people in them.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The cause of the Trump surge. on: July 23, 2015, 12:39:35 pm
He has tapped into the heart of a large swath of Middle America. It is actually scary.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Atlas Forum: Yesterday vs. Today on: July 22, 2015, 05:10:00 pm
Can we please stop pretending that if it was anyone other than BK everyone would be tossing the person to the wolves?

i don't think torie or inks being manipulated in the way that bq was is a realistic scenario

Maybe that just speaks to the fact that blaming it all on someone else's manipulation is a little weak.

are you saying we should have no sympathy for people living with mental illnesses?

No, but finding the line between culpability and not being in the right state of mind to be properly responsible is quite difficult. I believe the moderator action was warranted, and I believe if it was not BK making all the same defenses the ban would be better received in the community.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Atlas Forum: Yesterday vs. Today on: July 22, 2015, 04:12:41 pm
Can we please stop pretending that if it was anyone other than BK everyone would be tossing the person to the wolves?

i don't think torie or inks being manipulated in the way that bq was is a realistic scenario

Maybe that just speaks to the fact that blaming it all on someone else's manipulation is a little weak.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Atlas Forum: Yesterday vs. Today on: July 22, 2015, 02:37:41 pm
Can we please stop pretending that if it was anyone other than BK everyone would be tossing the person to the wolves?
25  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: Office of Game Moderator Foucaulf - WORLDBUILDING on: July 22, 2015, 12:58:44 pm
I kind of like the idea of the US and Canada. I mean, we have a parliamentary democracy right next door to the United States. Maybe Atlasia was in shambles and Canada, by order of international accord, constitutional amendments, acts from both the Canadian and British parliaments, whatever, absorbed the territory previously occupied by Atlasia. We have a continental capital in Ottawa and the formation of a new state run by parliament.
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