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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Chance Clinton Doesn't Run on: January 29, 2015, 05:30:24 pm
Over hyped and overrated; remember in 2008? Hillary as we all know was the prohibitive favorite for the nomination and along came this guy Obama; so what makes me think,  even 'if' she gets the nomination, that doesn't mean she's got the election wrapped up. I recall that in 1960, Vice President Nixon was deemed a strong possibility for winning the presidency,  by virtue of the fact he had no primary competition,  what happened?  A guy called John Kennedy who had been seasoned and steeled by a vigorous primary campaign,  by virtue of the fact of him selecting Lyndon Johnson narrowly won that election. The lesson is this, Hillary might not have to endure a competitive primary campaign, that doesn't mean she has a lock on the election. For example say her opponent is one of the following individuals,  Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, John Kasich, Chris Christie or Rick Perry and one of these individuals go with a female Vice Presidential nominee, e.g. Joni Ernst, Haley,  Susanna Martinez or even Condoleezza Rice. Then everyone might need to throw out the conventional wisdom play book and go back to the drawing board. Democrats & Republicans don't have the wisdom of 20/20 vision in hindsight and as none of us are blessed with the ability of being able to see into the future. Everyone is clinging to the comfort blanket of C.W. & not learning from the lessons of history. Democrats have the hope that a movement conservative like Cruz, Paul, Huckster or Santorum will be the party's standard bearer and therefore the election is there's.  We Republicans are hungry, not stupid...I think cynical pragmatic thinking will prevail and our party will be looking at demographics and electoral votes, when the primary season gets closer. The election is going to be closely fought affair, Democrats are going to be angry that they have to fight for every vote,  all because Republicans are hungry and got smart. Anyone remember 1980? Jimmy Carter despite all the problems,  underestimated Reagan like every one else. But he didn't count on events or someone like John Anderson or the "there you go again" moment in that debate to produce the outcome we got. As the 1980 election illustrates,  depending on conventional wisdom is not a smart call. You have to consider events, issues, the identity of the candidates and yes even maybe those pesky debates. There are so many different scenarios to consider as well. Remember 1968? no one believed in January of that year, the events which would occur. The Tet offensive,  Bobby Kennedy running for President,  his assassination and the assassination of MLK,  the withdrawal of LBJ from the presidential contest,  the riots in Chicago & what happened?  Well the rest is history. The object lesson is this, there will be different dynamics and paradigm's at play in 2016. You heard it here. So please take note.

2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: January 29, 2015, 01:15:45 am
Just booked a trip to Manhattan with the boyfriend. I'm excited! Smiley
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Smash racist reaction! on: January 27, 2015, 11:53:25 pm
Why were some of JCL's "staffers" nearby snooping on the ongoings of the Senator? By "staffers", does he mean "hit-men"? This is all oh-so-deeply disturbing. I think the very proactive Lumine administration should haul JCL in for questioning, just to be safe about things.

They weren't snooping. They were on the way to a meeting with some of my local supporters in the area when the incident occurred. In fact it was a prayer meeting with local evangelicals who pray for the government.

Trying to pray the gay out of the Secretary of the Interior? Cheesy
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of the Interior—Statement on the Civil Rights Act on: January 27, 2015, 09:45:40 pm
While I appreciate your concern, local law enforcement will be taking precautions and planning response scenarios regardless of whether they receive information from the federal government. My directive will provide the counties with information on specific threats if we have reason to believe that lives are at stake. In a way, information sharing will allow our police forces to focus on real threats without having to waste time making problems for people who are lawfully assembling. I am confident that the current measures strike an appropriate balance between respecting the rights of protesters to assemble and keeping our citizens safe.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting) on: January 27, 2015, 03:13:04 pm
Where was everyone when we were doing the last call for changes? This shouldn't happen.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Important Announcement—Hagrid for the South! on: January 27, 2015, 11:56:38 am
awesome logo

Thanks, lol. I think the font is butt ugly, but it was the most Hagrid-ish thing I could find for my first senate campaign at the time, so I thought I'd bring it back and modernize it for the current endeavour. Tongue
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting) on: January 27, 2015, 11:53:53 am
You're seriously saying schools and workplaces can't prohibit daisy dukes as a matter of civil rights?  What do racial and gender quotas, irrespective of the number of qualified applicants, have to do with highway funding?

I urge the President to veto this absurd legislation should it pass.

I think there are ways to be productive about your concern without slandering the entire piece of legislation. A redraft altering the language in question could have a very real chance of passing.

That being said, our society usually expects a higher standard of care for matters related to children, so a non-discriminatory dress code at school could also probably qualify for an exemption.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of the Interior—Statement on the Civil Rights Act on: January 27, 2015, 01:56:55 am

DIRECTIVE of the Secretary of the Interior

SoIA Directive #012 of January 27, 2015
Official Record

Sec. 1. Increased Flow of Information between the Federal and Regional Governments

(1) By the authority vested in me as the Secretary of the Interior, I hereby direct all subsidiary departments with information regarding potential disturbances and local security threats resulting from the passage of the Civil Rights Act to make this information available to the Attorneys General of the regional governments immediately or as soon as possible.

(2) The Department of the Interior urges the regional governments to share this information with municipal and county governments for the planning of effective response scenarios.

9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of the Interior—Statement on the Civil Rights Act on: January 27, 2015, 01:34:45 am

DIRECTIVE of the Secretary of the Interior

SoIA Directive #011 of January 27, 2015
Official Record

Sec. 1. Nullification of all Directives Issued Prior to January 2015

(1) By the authority vested in me as the Secretary of the Interior, I hereby rescind all directives issued from this office and the Department of Internal Affairs prior to January 1, 2015.

10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of the Secretary of the Interior—Welcome! on: January 27, 2015, 01:23:24 am

STATEMENT from the Secretary of the Interior

Secretary HagridOfTheDeep spoke today on the anticipated passage of the Civil Rights Act.

NYMAN, DC (2015.01.27)—

Fellow citizens, I stand here today a proud Atlasian. After months of work, the senate is finally poised to pass the Civil Rights Act—a triumph for our friends and neighbours who for too long have fallen through the cracks of our society. Not only does this legislation provide protections and safe space to members of the LGBTQ community, but it also promises to tackle the earnings gap between men and women and repay the descendants of indigenous and enslaved Atlasians for the crimes our government committed against them in the not-so-distant past. I congratulate the senate on their historic work.

Our next steps as a nation will be just as difficult, and I will leave it to greater women and men than myself to discuss how we begin to heal our national wounds and move on as one.

That being said, there is still work to be done in government, and I stand here today in part to outline this work. In passing the Civil Rights Act, the senate will provide $150 million in reparations to black and indigenous Atlasians. Over the coming days, per the law, I will issue a plan of action for the allocation of these funds. I urge the regions to play an active role in these discussions and offer their best suggestions—I continue to believe we see the best results when all levels of government are working together. I will indicate as much in my proposal.

At the end of the day, the price we pay now for these reparations is not a setback, but an investment in a group of people with ideas, innovations, hopes, and dreams. I understand there will be disagreements and I respect the right of our citizens to peacefully assemble. But I hope we can all remember that the recipients of this money are not villains or scoundrels, but people deserving of respect and dignity, just like you and me. We move forward together.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: January 27, 2015, 12:39:56 am
I am running to be the Imperial Dominion of the South's senator this February.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Important Announcement—Hagrid for the South! on: January 27, 2015, 12:38:23 am


It’s been a while since I last sought elected office, and a lot has changed in my life and in the story of Atlasia… but I think the time has finally come to re-enter the scene. So, it’s with a mixed sense of trepidation and excitement that I announce my candidacy for the office of IDS Senator. I know the odds are long, but I think I can do a lot of good in the senate. And right now, the shape of things in Atlasia isn’t looking too great. In me, you’ll get an active and independent voice. I can’t think of anything more Southern than that. Wink

I know the talk will be that I’m challenging an Atlasian institution—and Yankee deserves accolades for the time he’s given this game. At the same time, I believe the people of the Imperial Dominion of the South deserve a clear choice for their regional senator, which is something that’s been lacking for quite a while. I hope my candidacy can provide voters who want a fresh voice with another option—and we’ll just have to see how it goes! I look forward to a friendly but spirited race.

Over the coming weeks, I’ll be releasing more details about my record, my vision for the country, and how I plan to go about representing the IDS. In the past, I have served as an at-large senator, chairman of a major political party, and a cabinet official. I work hard, build solid relationships, and, lately, have taken a liking to leaving the partisan BS at the door. In all, I think I have what it takes to be a strong senator. I hope you’ll come to the same conclusion and lend me your support.

Right now though, all I ask is that you follow my campaign closely and ask questions whenever you have them. I’ll try my best to answer. Smiley

Thanks so much. I look forward to the weeks ahead.


Secretary of the Interior
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting) on: January 27, 2015, 12:30:50 am
How much is Section 3.5 supposed to cost?

Truth be told, I left it vague because I knew no one would get me any figures and it left sufficient room for interpretation. Technically speaking, "grants for the purpose of..." could mean the government shells out $100 or the full cost of the whole project. It could also mean paying $20 for a sign that looks like this:

In my opinion, the bill leaves a good amount of discretion to the Department of Internal Affairs. But maybe I'm biased. Wink Either way, I don't think section 3.5 has to cost a fortune.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: should we unpresident Napoleon from history? on: January 27, 2015, 12:02:41 am
Except they actually were president.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting) on: January 26, 2015, 05:11:46 pm
I prefer to abstain. I support most of the part of this bill (against sexual harassment,...) but considering I motioned to table the initial bill, voting Aye would be quite contradictory.

Yeah, you really need to find a way to stop yourself from getting hung up over weird little things.
16  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: I'm majoring in Accounting, but I suck at math. Am I making the right choice? on: January 25, 2015, 11:16:22 pm
Well, is it what you're passionate about? I mean, at the end of the day, your majoring in accounting will mean that you become an accountant. Forget whether or not you suck at math... Do you want to be an accountant?
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which Barack Obama accomplishment is your favorite? on: January 25, 2015, 09:40:39 pm
Being an advocate for gay rights. The rest has very little to do with Barack Obama.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is George W. Bush still hurting the Republican Party on: January 25, 2015, 07:37:34 pm
At this point, I legitimately believe George W. Bush could actually be a net asset.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator TNF, why? :( on: January 25, 2015, 02:35:20 pm
With all due respect, building a party around the principle of "consideration and consensus" appears terribly shallow. See the example of the Senate - "consideration and consensus" are very widespread among nearly all Senators, regardless of their partisan affiliation. Most bills are extremely left-wing, yes, but there are usually lengthy debates full of consideration and consensus-building.

If the coherent message of the People's Party is supposed to be something that 90% of Atlasia's citizens can subscribe to, fair enough.

It's harder to subscribe to that message than you would think. The senate is very isolated from Atlasia's other political arenas. Outside of the senate, tone matters. The tone that the Federalists telegraph is incompetence and nutjobbery, and the tone that the Laborites exude is unabashed extremism. TPP manages to rally around a set of policy points as well as a positive attitude/tone. It's something to be proud of, to be sure.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator TNF, why? :( on: January 25, 2015, 12:25:24 pm
TPP will never be ripped apart because its core principles are common sense and consensus-building. Until the other parties adopt that, there will always be a place for TPP.

Also, lol @ Griffin coming in with a dissertation to defend the Labor party even against a rube attack like this one. Not everything deserves a reaction. It just lends credence to the argument that someone is in a little too deep and getting a little too paranoid.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator TNF, why? :( on: January 24, 2015, 11:18:22 pm
It's usually good to wait until specific events precipitate authentic outrage before stirring the pot. But best of luck.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris Survey - If I say... (RESULTS) on: January 24, 2015, 09:29:12 pm
"Been here for two weeks." Lol. I wish that was the truth.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2014 (Debating) on: January 24, 2015, 01:07:25 pm
So what happens when the cost of a loaf of bread is ten dollars because we keep spiraling things up and up and up?

Then we seize bread production, turn it over to the workers, and do the same with the rest of industry.

And then the workers would establish some kind of organizational framework and hierarchy because, contrary to popular belief, that's necessary for the functioning of an industry, and then some in the hierarchy would demand more for expending more effort, then the system would warp and become even less equitable, and then we'd be back at the same "problem" we had in the first place, having done nothing to combat inflation.

All this when, in the first place, a little restraint with minimum wage hikes could've kept things in check much sooner.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your top of the ballot W/L record on: January 23, 2015, 07:56:54 pm
In the 2011 Canadian federal election, I voted Conservative and the Conservative Party formed government.

In the 2011 Ontario provincial election, I voted Liberal and the Liberal Party formed government.

In the 2014 Ontario provincial election, I voted Liberal and the Liberal Party formed government.

In the 2014 Mississauga municipal election, I voted Steve Mahoney but Bonnie Crombie became mayor.

So I guess it would be three out of four?
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I'm taking a break from atlas on: January 23, 2015, 05:16:22 pm
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