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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sunday Rest Act (Debating) on: March 07, 2015, 09:49:44 am
This law wouldn't protect anything. It would give people a blank cheque to skip work whenever they want. Basically it makes every job a one-day contract job that gets continuously reoffered without stipulation.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Global Financial Transaction Tax Resolution (Debating) on: March 07, 2015, 09:44:35 am
And if all we're issuing is a statement of "strong encouragement," is it really worth going through with this?
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Global Financial Transaction Tax Resolution (Debating) on: March 06, 2015, 06:11:59 pm
Part of me feels like this comes very close to micromanaging the actions of the SoEA.
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Corporate Charter Renewal Act of 2014 (Debating) on: March 06, 2015, 06:09:59 pm
If someone starts a business and helps build it up to a value of over $25 million, the thought of losing that business for nothing more than political reasons is ridiculous. If we are going to pursue this measure, I'd like to at least see the panel partly stacked with some of the folks who started or manage the company. The refusal to renew a corporate charter should be exceptionally rare.
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sunday Rest Act (Debating) on: March 06, 2015, 05:58:57 pm
I'm compelled by Lief's argument that this bill is unnecessary. I can't see myself supporting it.
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Set It and Leave it Alone Minimum Wage Act of 2015 (Debating) on: March 06, 2015, 05:54:36 pm
Well, I'm tempted to vote nay myself, Yankee.

There is an interesting balance to consider. Internships are meant to be temporary positions that provide students or other young people with valuable experience. While the intern certainly offers a service to the company or office they're working in, in a way, that office is also offering a valuable service to the intern. How many intern positions would cease to exist if this bill came into law? How many students would miss out on valuable "work" experience that could help them later in life? Students who decide to become unpaid interns know what they're getting into.

On the other hand, though, there's only a certain type of student who can afford to work as an unpaid intern, so there's definitely a privilege gap here. Is the solution to punish the people with privilege, or to find a way to help students with less privilege still find a way to make use of these internships?

I'm torn.
82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Limited Liability Company Abolition Act of 2014 (Debating) on: March 06, 2015, 05:45:43 pm
Well, I think it's a poor idea. Plus, you'd think that if we were going to discuss something so drastic there'd be some kind of cataclysmic event that precipitated it... but I guess this is the new Atlasia. Tongue
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Kurdish Solidarity Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: March 06, 2015, 05:41:16 pm
I'm happy to support the bill and look forward to Senator Polnut's amendment.

That being said, the only part of this bill that has any teeth whatsoever is section 2. So I wonder if section 1 is even worth including. Could it be construed by some parties in the region as patronizing rhetoric?
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Electoral Reform Amendment (Debating) on: March 06, 2015, 05:31:01 pm
I'm not quite sure what you're intending here, Windjammer. The language of your amendment does make it sound like you want this proposal to go into effect for the first election following the passage of the bill. I think we should set it firm at August 2015.
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Swearing in of New Officeholders on: March 06, 2015, 05:21:41 pm
I, HagridOfTheDeep, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of Southern Senator, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia, so help me Dave.

I, HagridOfTheDeep, hereby resign as Secretary of the Interior.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of HagridOfTheDeep on: March 06, 2015, 07:37:17 am
I believe the only job I have not done as prescribed to me by law is the issuance of a report on reparations to Black people and Native Atlasians. By the time the CRA passed, the administration had already lost its mandate.

I understand you disagree with me, but the truth is, the Secretary of Internal Affairs is an ill-defined position that is what the officeholder makes of it. I don't think that's a bad thing, because it's also not the most necessary thing in the world for the functioning of the game. Someone can personally flourish in the role and feel rewarded, or someone can be more low-key and everything's still okay. I did respond to events (despite the fact that my office has very little control over any of the agencies that could help stop a terrorist attack) and it was noted that my actions saved lives. I would guess that had I not come in here to post an update, few people would have said anything at all... But I brought down Yankee, so now I'm held to a different standard than all the other SoIAs who start out strong and start to fade.

I decided it was best for me not to feel goaded into making my win out to be something extraordinary. But I also believe the pattern of flatlining SoIAs (it pretty much happens to all of them) is something that needs to be discussed, and I think my experience in the role will be an asset in the senate when we discuss game reform issues. I apologize for making the choice to stay away... But unfortunately it didn't really matter. Doing a quick search, no one even wondered where I was. That's just as much of a problem as anything else... These jobs need to matter, and if they don't, maybe it's time I cast another vote to eliminate them (or change them in a substantial way).
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Important Announcement—Hagrid for the South! on: March 05, 2015, 10:52:00 pm
I would just like to issue a brief note about my activity on the forum in the weeks following the last election. While I apologize for leaving the Department of the Interior in a state of relative inactivity, I’m comfortable admitting that it was best for me to stay out of the fray in the immediate aftermath of my senate win. I have not issued statements on some of the threats we’ve seen across the nation, but I remain convinced that I have taken appropriate action to protect Atlasian life.

Regarding my campaign: I ran for the senate because I believe I can be a good senator and I know it’s something I’ll enjoy—not because I had any plans to send the right into turmoil or disrespect Senator North Carolina Yankee. With some individuals prancing on graves, stirring the pot, and trying to pull me into the fray, I didn’t want my presence to be a distraction. I currently have no plans to register as anything other than an Independent, and I look forward to swearing into my first term as the South’s regional senator. I have a number of bills I will be presenting soon, and I promise to be an active voice in the next session. Maybe it’s asking too much, but I hope I can dedicate time to being a legislator… not a politician.

88  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: February 26, 2015, 05:35:14 pm
Just got into the Queen's M.Ed program! Pretty great birthday present. Cheesy
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Important Announcement—Hagrid for the South! on: February 23, 2015, 07:28:19 pm
I just want to thank everyone for their kind words and support. I know my victory will have various different meanings for different people, but for me it's about returning to the senate where I've always had the most fun in this game.

Yankee is an accomplished and honourable public servant, and I hope he'll continue finding ways to contribute to the game. I encourage people to reach out to him over the next couple weeks and thank him for his service.

As for me, I look forward to starting my work in the senate. If anyone ever has questions or concerns, my door is always open. Congratulations to the other victors.
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: February 2015 Presidential and Regional Senate Elections on: February 22, 2015, 09:58:25 pm


[2] Bore of Rhode Island and Bacon King of Oceania
Labor Party - The People's Party

[  ] JCL of Indiana and Devin of Washington
Federalist Party

[1] Maxwell of Alabama and Dallasfan65 of Massachusetts
Democratic-Republican Party

[  ] Write-in:______________________________

[  ] None of the above


[1] Hagridofthedeep of South Carolina

[2] North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party

[  ] Write-in:______________________________

[  ] None of the above

91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: February 22, 2015, 12:23:51 am
Well, my boyfriend and I just had a spirited discussion about whether it's okay to alter classic children's books for political correctness. Logically I know I was on the wrong side, but emotionally it just feels wrong to change the words of Dr. Seuss and still ascribe the new version to the author. "Policeman in a pail" is not the end of the world.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Mideast Record Courier: Live Coverage of the Feb. '15 Elections on: February 21, 2015, 12:53:49 pm
With respect, I think you're being too optimistic about my odds.
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of the Interior—Statement on the Civil Rights Act on: February 20, 2015, 04:24:20 pm

DIRECTIVE of the Secretary of the Interior

SoIA Directive #013 of February 20, 2015
Official Record

Sec. 1. Increased Security at the Department of the Interior and Subsidiary Offices

(1) In response to the thwarted attack on the Census Bureau as well as other growing concerns, I hereby order the following increased security measures at all cabinet facilities under the umbrella of the Department of the Interior: the contingent of off-hours security personnel shall be doubled; perimeter patrols shall be doubled in frequency; all guests and visitors must receive and display a security pass, effective immediately; employees must be able and willing to present identification upon request.

Sec. 2. Electronic and Print Copies of Government Records

(1) I hereby direct a portion of the Department of the Interior's discretionary budget to the electronic backup of print records and the production of hard copies of electronic records, to be overseen by all undersecretaries and coordinated by department heads. This undertaking shall begin immediately.

Sec. 3. Message to the Regions

(1) I hereby extend the provisions outlined in Directive #012 to include increased cooperation between the federal government and the regions on any matter related to break-ins at and cyberthreats to any government office in the country.

(2) I urge the regions to conduct a thorough review of the security protocols at their government offices and increase security where prudent and possible.

94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: WE'RE GOING TO THE BEACH in February!!! Federalist Convention (Voting!!!) on: February 18, 2015, 07:45:03 pm
Numbers do permit though, because any number of candidates running to be president will still trigger a vote, per the earlier section in the text with regard to the presidency. I am almost sure we put this in.

And Duke, you were our candidate the first time in spite of the fact that you were an Independent. I thought the only reason you joined was because you felt pressed to make some demonstration of goodwill to the party for the base.

Either way, I've said a million times that someone should really gut the by-laws I wrote. They proved to be cripplingly specific. But I guess it's a bed I don't have to sleep in anymore, so to speak. So best of luck. Tongue
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: WE'RE GOING TO THE BEACH in February!!! Federalist Convention (Voting!!!) on: February 16, 2015, 07:07:38 pm
"This is not the RPP." I forgot a about that greatest hit! Tongue

I never understood the history of the consolidation movement, so I wasn't really able to recognize the threat when it materialized. I came around, but it was too late.

It's interesting that I never really went to you at the beginning, because I did have long, long conversations with Duke (and even Marokai). I think my real desire was to try and make the party something new. Although we didn't unite behind policy, I'm happy that we at least managed to come across (mostly) as the good guys. I should have spoken with you more at the beginning, but all I kept hearing was things about the past, and I wanted to move forward...

And now it's come full circle because I'm the guy who can't stop reminiscing. Tongue
96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Eagle: The People's Victory, Presidential Developments. on: February 16, 2015, 02:37:46 pm
the zombie horde controlled by the Politburo
If you're going to run a newspaper, you might want to be a little less vitriolic in your articles. Just a friendly tip from a fellow journalist.

You should take a gander at the Atlasian Laborinth when you have a chance. Tongue
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Convention, February 2015 on: February 16, 2015, 12:23:16 pm

working solutions

Today, I pledge to be the moderate voice that some members of the senate abhor but all members of the country need.

I believe in labour’s right to organize, and I believe it should be protected. That being said, I know unions often go TOO FAR

I believe in a foreign policy that takes the best tenets of hard and soft power

At the same time

That being said

I know I may sound like someone who’s trying to be all things to all people.

That's because you are: you're obviously utilizing your GOTV apparatus from your time as the preeminent reactionary of the leading reactionary party in the game while appealing to the soft-left for votes by feeding them Moderate Heroism, which, pathetically, is working. You busted Matt's balls time and time again - and not even that long ago - for swinging ideologically so suddenly away from your party, and yet everyone is now supposed to believe that this is genuine on your part.

And oh wow, you almost managed to make it through the first paragraph without taking a swipe at the movement you never managed to defeat! I'll give you credit for the fact that before taking your swipe, you did manage to insert some of the same ideologically-vapid sentiment and approaches that led to the rotting of your former party once you abandoned it. I guess some things never change!

Oh, Griffin. You're my favourite.
98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: WE'RE GOING TO THE BEACH in February!!! Federalist Convention (Voting!!!) on: February 16, 2015, 12:15:55 pm
Well, it doesn't seem like anyone's sparing any punches, so I figured I'd just be honest. Tongue I think that was my big problem at the time too: I bitched and complained almost in the shadows rather than trying to be productive and work with people. And I've always been very sorry for how things went down during that period of time. It was hard for me to detach myself even though it was so obvious I needed to. There was a lot of talent I didn't know how to make use of, and I think that's been an issue on the right for a while too.

Anyway, there's no question you're good at what you do, Maxwell, which is why you'll make a great president.

Also, I just want to be clear about my invoking JCL. I think JCL realizes what he's up against, and unfortunately it has reached the point where no matter what he does, the politicos here will never cut him any slack, because they're happy with the box they've put him in. He's a very nice and dedicated player who I think will admit proudly that he holds some controversial views (and yeah, I do think some are kinda cray-cray Tongue). I'm using him as an example because his predicament is unfortunately what right-wing players are left in when they're extremely vocal about their social conservatism. Maybe it's partly my fault for trying to tone down those elements and creating a culture where they're unwelcome in the organized right, but... I don't think I've played a huge role in building the popular image of JCL. It's his opponents who've done that. I want the Federalist Party to stand for substance without having to endure the kind of obstacles that JCL endures. I think it's possible.
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: WE'RE GOING TO THE BEACH in February!!! Federalist Convention (Voting!!!) on: February 16, 2015, 04:59:32 am
So, obviously I have to draw myself into a long response to Griffin's comments...

Social conservatism, in many respects, is code for “bigot” to most people on this forum. That’s not necessarily how I feel, but it's true. Anyone with an ounce of observation skills knows how JCL is perceived here. TNF and your allies are certainly extremists, but no one here could call them bigots with any sort of legitimacy. If you put a bigot up against a Marxist, the bigot loses because at least the Marxist can dress up his arguments in the guise of logic or reason.

Could other social conservatives win in a head-to-head against someone like TNF? Sure—but it will have been because of two things: your organization shooting itself in the foot due to its belief that pushing the limits of ideological reason is an accomplishment, and the social conservative emphasizing less-controversial elements of his platform. TJ doesn’t have JCL’s baggage. That being said, a campaign that embraced the most controversial tenets of social conservatism, like you’re advocating, would surely pile on the baggage awfully fast. That’s why I believe many of the most socially-conservative members of the Federalist Party would agree that a campaign office with a big banner reading “traditional marriage!” or “abortion is murder!” wouldn’t do many favours. While I agree I failed in finding concrete policies to unite the party behind, I don’t agree that we should’ve shimmied far to the right. The party can stand for something without regaling itself in the aura of regression—I just didn’t know how to do it.

All that aside, though, I disagree with the premise that I fought some kind of war on two fronts within the party when I was chairman. The Hagrid of today isn’t the Hagrid of January 2013; that guy was actually palatable to most elements on the right. Did I do some damage control when I thought the least electable candidate looked poised to win a primary? You bet. But at the time there was no conscious effort to send people packing for their political beliefs. Ben Kenobi and Tmth had to go because it was nearing consensus that they were, at the time, toxic, but it was never because of what they believed. Moving on though, there actually were occasions where we were left with someone like JCL trying to win prominent elections, and we did what we could to help their campaigns. They tended to fail in spite of those efforts, precisely because my conclusions about their prospects in the electoral landscape were (and continue to be) accurate. As my beliefs changed (long after I left the chairmanship), my tolerance for appeasing this segment of the electorate waned—but for my six months at the helm, it was about maintaining a delicate balance that I think worked. You say it was the beginning of the fall, but show me a time when the party was as successful; I remember the big elections where we had virtually no defections, and I’m proud of them. You mention that social conservatives failed to turn out, but to my recollection, that wasn’t the case.

That being said, engaging with this maybe isn’t worthwhile, because the convoluted logic you invoke talking about DemPGH’s victory kind of reveals that you’re just stirring the pot. There was no Federalist ticket in that election—people had a choice to make between non-party members. I didn’t vote for SirNick because it was painfully transparent that he had no allegiance to the Federalist Party at all but expected everyone’s vote. I believe myself and others would have voted for the “competitive choice” had that person previously demonstrated loyalty to the party.

I’ve talked a lot about social conservatives, but let’s revisit your claim that I pushed away Libertarians. I’m not a Libertarian, and in many respects would probably fall into the category of a hawk. But if we look at the real picture of Libertarianism in this game… well, there weren’t many in the party for me to push away! When the Whigs and the Imperial Bloc merged, many of the Libertarians in the IB, if I recall, did not agree to join the Federalist Party out of fears that the Whigs were too neoconservative. That's not my fault. Some IB'ers found a home in the Liberal Party, like dallasfan, and made it a rule to consistently push back against my private pleas that they join us. Now, maybe my personal politics made them uneasy, but I can’t think of a single action I took, private or public, to cast the Libertarians aside. Any later controversies (I’m thinking of Maxwell’s departure) were more related to internal spats over organizational difficulties and consolidation. So I don’t really know what you’re getting at here. You presume to know a lot about the dynamics of the Federalist Party, but… you just don’t.

Because you’ve got it wrong on Maxwell’s leadership too. I quit the job in August '13 because I couldn’t handle it anymore. I mostly stayed away. I came back for the odd election and followed internal dynamics irregularly. Really, I only dropped in to have the odd hissy fit over our failure to do anything about consolidation. The dynamic in private was terrible. Yankee blamed me for not doing more about Operation Rim Job (perhaps rightfully so), and the two of us could never get past that squabbling to address consolidation as it was then unfolding. Our difficulties were compounded by the fact that our chairman and president both supported reducing the number of regions. I thought it was silly that we were paralyzed… and I wasn’t diplomatic about it. Also, while you make it sound like I was a complete failure, when I was chairman there were a lot of things I got right, and to be 100% honest, I was disappointed that Maxwell didn’t seem to be engaging the members the same way. Maxwell can speak for himself, but yeah—I made my feelings clear and he was pretty stressed. When a fiasco and misunderstanding occurred around the time that Duke ended up announcing his re-election bid, Maxwell snapped and left. But I was not pulling any strings, because I was mostly burned out and grumpy. I don’t think it’s fair to say that Maxwell’s tenure can just be attributed to me.

Anyway, I’ve gone on too long, but I’m not going to let you dictate the narrative here. I do think you fundamentally misunderstand the nature and potential of the Atlasian right, but we’ll never agree on that point. It would be interesting to see the Federalist Party try out your strategy of embracing the crazy, but I think the JCL trial runs pretty much tell you all you need to know about how it would go. By all means, they can prove me wrong… but I don’t think it’s going to happen. Stand for something, sure (maybe like the UK Conservatives)… but to argue that the extremist approach will work for the Feds is just silly. They need to refresh their image, unite behind some sort of consistent, palatable ideology, inspire a new generation of players, refresh their leadership, and be there for each other.

Being dopey fascists isn't on the list.
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Convention, February 2015 on: February 15, 2015, 03:59:12 pm
Friends, I would like to thank you for your endorsement. I am not a member of your party, but I stand beside you in your goal to bring hard work and common sense back to the senate. I bear no ill-will towards my future predecessor (Wink), but I know I offer a fresh voice to the South. If elected, I pledge to dedicate the time needed to reel in Labor’s extremism and find working solutions for the People.

Two years ago, far-right Hagrid served in the senate alongside a number of your most revered members. During that time, I built strong relationships with each of the People’s senators who passed in and out of that body. Today, thanks to the spirit of conciliation we built during that time, a number of you are my closest friends in the game. We worked not for party, but for the country. I’m running because I think we can bring that positive spirit back to government.

Over time, my views have changed. Today, I pledge to be the moderate voice that some members of the senate abhor but all members of the country need. I believe in labour’s right to organize, and I believe it should be protected. That being said, I know unions often go too far; we can strike a balance in this country between economic output and the livelihoods of breadwinners. I believe in common, core education standards, because I believe everyone in this country should be prepared to compete on the global stage, whichever region they come from. At the same time, I believe the regions should have some flexibility to teach on what’s most important in their local geographies. I believe taxes should be kept progressive, kept low, and left unchanged when they’ve proven to work—instability is good for no one. I believe in a foreign policy that takes the best tenets of hard and soft power to reassert Atlasia in the international dialogue and make a greater push for universal human rights. I believe I am the person to represent these values in the senate.

I know I may sound like someone who’s trying to be all things to all people. But this is what I believe and this is what I’ll fight for. I thank you for your endorsement and humbly ask for your votes next weekend.

Thank you.
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