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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What are your dream tickets for 2016? on: January 23, 2016, 02:04:56 pm
Romney/Martinez, obviously.
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rubio Not Winning the Establishment Because He's too Conservative on: January 23, 2016, 01:32:39 pm
Also he's like the Republican version of Obama. An ingrate who jumps in too early because he thinks he's special, wins on his youthfulness, and then surprises everyone when he turns out to be ineffectual, as if the writing hadn't been on the wall the whole time. The GOP will make tons of mistakes, but nominating their version of Obama won't be one of them.
78  Forum Community / Mock Parliment / Re: So... It's time to pose the inevitable question, I guess... on: January 23, 2016, 01:25:07 pm
Put me on the record as agreeing with afleitch that locating the game in South America was a bad idea. No one wants to play a game that requires doing crippling amounts of research.
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Microsoft to introduce Minecraft to classrooms. Thoughts? on: January 23, 2016, 04:48:06 am
Obviously none of you are teachers.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would Hillary have been better off for 2016 if she had remained a US Senator? on: January 22, 2016, 01:56:47 pm
She took the cabinet position because she was called to serve and it was the right thing to do.

Goodness, this woman can never to anything right.
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Ad: Clear Difference on: January 22, 2016, 01:12:37 pm
This is the best ad of the cycle. I don't support Trump at all, but boy—Trump looks so good here next to the blithering Cruz.
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: New Jeb ad attacks Trump's electability on: January 20, 2016, 02:11:04 pm
Interestingly, this ad could help Hillary in the Democratic primary wherever it runs.
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: "Big Announcement" in Ames, Iowa Tuesday on: January 19, 2016, 12:46:54 am

That flight doesn't land until 8:00 PM local time. What time is the rally? Everything would have to be in place beforehand I'd imagine.

Uh, the plane has already landed...
84  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the Sanders-Clinton healthcare debate? on: January 18, 2016, 01:05:11 am
Clinton is a moron for coming out against single-payer.
It's damaging her campaign and had her lose against Sanders in the argument.

Not really. Single-payer will not pass in the current political climate and reopening the debate after banking a significant (and contentious) win with Obamacare would hurt the Democratic Party. Makes sense to me.

With that logic, why try to accomplish any political goals? I'm not a Democrat myself, but most of my libby friends prefer Sanders because he's willing to stand his ground against Wall Street and the Right instead of immediately folding into pressure and offering to "reach across the aisle" as Obama has done. This middle-of-the-road stuff isn't going to work with the base.

"We can't do anything progressive because of the eeevvviiiillll Republicans, so vote for me!" is a strategy that seems to have outworn its welcome with the liberal base. What's even more troubling is that Clinton and her team don't seem to have realized that.

We can get into the politics of it, and you may be right that it's a losing strategy. But what's good politics doesn't always mesh with reality. And your hypothetical dialogue is actually, well, correct. I'm not saying that it's better to have no goals, but I come from the camp that believes transactional politics and incremental change is the way to go. What's wrong with keeping the framework of the ACA in place and finding a way to begin creatively solving some of the country's current health care problems using something like the Maryland model O'Malley mentioned?

I don't know all the details of what's possible, I'll admit that. But I maintain that starting from scratch with the goal of accomplishing something that will never be accomplished is silly and bad for the party. It's basically the equivalent of Donald Trump's wall. And what will end up happening is people's expectations will be built up, as they were for Obama's presidency in '08, and then reality will set in and Bernie will look like a disappointing wet noodle. It's all just a big lie (which is why I hated Obama passionately for almost seven years—there was this fantastical groundswell around him that propelled him to the White House except, in reality, it was based on nothing).
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who could pull off a third party run? on: January 17, 2016, 11:30:51 pm
It would only be viable in a Trump v. Sanders match-up.
86  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the Sanders-Clinton healthcare debate? on: January 17, 2016, 10:59:01 pm
Clinton is a moron for coming out against single-payer.
It's damaging her campaign and had her lose against Sanders in the argument.

Not really. Single-payer will not pass in the current political climate and reopening the debate after banking a significant (and contentious) win with Obamacare would hurt the Democratic Party. Makes sense to me.
87  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NBC Charleston, SC Democratic debate @9pm ET **live commentary thread** on: January 17, 2016, 09:39:02 pm
these f**king moderators

my god

Well, reality has a bias against non-sensical flights of fancy, so maybe that's why it seems like the moderators are against Sanders.
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NBC Charleston, SC Democratic debate @9pm ET **live commentary thread** on: January 17, 2016, 09:24:41 pm
Lol. Hillary is doing bad, but Bernie is doing worse.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Downright Absurdity: Sanders releases Healthcare Plan 1 hour before the debate on: January 17, 2016, 08:45:18 pm
Obviously a slimey way to release the info, but that's how the game is played and I'm glad it's out there.
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NBC Charleston, SC Democratic debate @9pm ET **live commentary thread** on: January 17, 2016, 07:33:18 pm
Her attacks, best I can see, have been limited to questioning the practicality of implementing a single-payer system that's devolved to the states. Fighting for universal health care has been a Democratic priority for decades. The country is finally close with Obamacare, and now we have Sanders wanting to throw it all away for an uncosted measure that is at best fanciful and at worst dangerous. Not sure why it's so despicable to point these things out. It's the realist approach, and I'd think most of her appeal comes from being realistic and pitching that she can deliver. How can Bernie look anyone in the eye and say his policies are even close to attainable or realistic?
91  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton campaign: we wish we had attacked Sanders sooner on: January 17, 2016, 06:45:50 pm
Lol. If Hillary had started attacking Bernie when he was in the distant 20s or even 30s the outcry would have been huge. "She's the prohibitive favourite, hitting nice old man Bernie Sanders when he's already down and doesn't stand a chance." She would have basically been elevating him to the status of serious opponent, which honestly could have hastened his rise, accentuated Hillary's own negatives, and created an even more bitter segment of the party that would be unwilling to eventually vote for her in the general.

The fact is, Hillary is always in the position where, at least according to a large number of people, nothing she does will ever be right. Her strategy has been fine, all things considered. She has limitations as a candidate that prevent her from catching fire like Bernie has. Now it's time to use the strengths she does have to put out the fire. I'm confident she'll be able to start doing that tonight.

But I think it's so silly to call out her strategy without knowing what the results will be. Any other strategy could have been just as bad (or worse), because there are people out there like Griffin and jfern who are unwilling to give Hillary credit for anything.
92  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: #KarlRove4Sanders on: January 17, 2016, 05:02:24 pm
Hopefully her team is on this and she'll mention it during the debate.
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you guys miss dudeabides? on: January 17, 2016, 04:57:35 am
No lol
94  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Describe this voter on: January 17, 2016, 03:18:08 am
An imbecile.
95  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is with the random Sanders surge now? on: January 13, 2016, 06:59:52 pm
Possibly a function of nut-jobs Ted Cruz and Donald Trump doing so well on the GOP side. Democrats are clueing into the fact that the GOP likely WILL nominate a giant loony-toon, so believe that whoever they nominate, be it Hillary.goddess or Sanders, will have a great shot at winning the general. Thus, the Dems have the luxury of wiggle room; they can nominate a more ideologically "pure" candidate and still win.

That, or a few junk polls showed Bernie winning, his "surge" became the subject of media frenzy, and the junk polls became self-fulfilling prophecies.
96  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democrats: Will you support your primary opponent in the general election? on: January 13, 2016, 06:50:53 pm
Nah, I'd vote for the inevitable Indy candidate who would arise in a Trump/Sanders match-up. Or maybe Rubio. Sanders is a nut.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NYT: Momentum and enthusiasm in IA clearly shifiting to Bernie Sanders right now on: January 12, 2016, 10:02:36 am
So it's clear whose side the media is on. Roll Eyes
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: National- IBD/TIPP polls for DEM and GOP on: January 11, 2016, 02:32:18 pm
In a Trump vs. Sanders race, Bloomberg wins.
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What does the establishment need to do? on: January 10, 2016, 02:25:08 am
Pray to the silly god they've rallied their party around.

Rather ambiguously, that could either mean the Holy Father or Donald J. Trump.
100  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How old are you? on: January 09, 2016, 07:06:18 pm
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