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76  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: stay at home dad on: July 11, 2014, 12:30:16 am
I'm good with kids. I guess they like big outgoing dudes, so it seems to work. I'm also about to start training to be an elementary school teacher. So yeah, I could see myself being a stay-at-home dad. I think I'd really like it, too.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (24 HR VOTE, CHECK THREAD!!!) on: July 11, 2014, 12:20:59 am
I'll fix the ing amendment tomorrow.  I can't even see and I'm going into a nervous breakdown.  I'm so sorry to ruin the convention.  I'm just letting you know I'm not done with the platform.r

You okay, Scott? Undecided

Cuz no one's angry here. I think it's a good idea to discuss items like this. It's what we need to be doing (and probably should've been doing 12 months ago).
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (24 HR VOTE, CHECK THREAD!!!) on: July 11, 2014, 12:11:45 am
Aye

And Scott, I think something along the lines of the Utah homelessness plan would be a good idea to implement, but I also think it might be too specific for a party platform. We haven't really done any other issue that sort of justice.

I agree, but one vague point about homelessness isn't that specific. I actually think it straddles the line well between giving specificity and flexibility in the platform. We just need to come up with more points like that on a range of issues and then group them into categories.
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (24 HR VOTE, CHECK THREAD!!!) on: July 10, 2014, 01:52:11 pm
I would prefer to replace the words "starting point" in your text to "hand up," if you're open to that.
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (24 HR VOTE, CHECK THREAD!!!) on: July 10, 2014, 12:39:49 pm
Aye
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 10, 2014, 12:33:06 pm
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encouraging the senate to pass bills that actually require me to do things.

How should we go about encouraging this approach when the history of such directives requirements in legislation being ignored serves to discourage it from being done in the future by the Senate?

Well, it's about leading by example. I've already said that I hope you guys will give me more to do. I will also make the case for additional responsobilities during debate of specific bills. I mean, there's not much more I can say than that. Hopefully in my other responsibilities I will be able to prove that I can be trusted to fulfill obligations outlined in legislation. If it comes to the point where the senate trusts me to do the job but doesn't necessarily trust that future SoIA's will be as dedicated, there are still short-term items y'all can conclude that would require my attention. I'd also argue that sometimes there are issues that are naturally better served by having the SoIA play a role, which makes it so that you guys wouldn't just be creating work for me to do for no reason. 
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who was the most "electable" candidate for both parties, by year? on: July 10, 2014, 02:31:22 am
When will people realize that Jon Huntsman is a terrible politician? He had the "goods" to challenge Obama in 2012, but he would've been so miserable at selling those goods that it wouldn't have mattered.
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (READ MY LAST POST!!!) on: July 09, 2014, 09:40:27 pm
I guess I'll bite and ask what you have in mind as a starting point?
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 09, 2014, 02:18:02 pm
I'm concerned about this idea of SoIA issuing directives to individuals that are not made public. There needs to be accountability between the branches and to the public.  What sort of directives do you mean?

Oh whoa. I'm sorry I gave that impression, because that's not what I meant at all. I would never give orders to individuals in private using my authority as SoIA. I can see where it sounds like that's what I'm saying, so I've edited my response above. Hopefully that will clarify things.

When I say I will engage people privately, I just mean I'll update the governors about bills that have passed pertaining to them and encourage them to take action. Maybe have a bit of a discussion, just like all officeholders have in private.

Basic example: "Hey Cranberry, health care reform has passed in the senate and the regions are encouraged to establish exchanges based on the guidelines in the legislation. Emperor Scott is taking x route, but some others have floated y route. It might be worth talking about it with each other to share your ideas."

I will also be working with Cranberry, Superique, and the Pacific Speaker on July's stimulus package for the Pacific. Although we'll be deliberating in public, I'm sure we'll talk about it by PM too. Either way, I won't be hiding anything.

This is what I mean by a directive:

SOIA Directive #003 of March 26, 2014
Official Record

Sec. 1. Investigative action

By the authority vested in me as Secretary of Internal Affairs, I hereby issue a directive requiring the Department of Public Works to, (1) Review the process for the collection and evaluation of incoming consumer complaints, and to (2) conduct an investigation and submit a report reviewing actions taken by the NHTSA in regards to, (a) defective ignition switches, and (b) other equipment failure, as an ongoing problem in specific makes of General Motors vehicles.

All directives will be public and official. Another example of a directive could be me ensuring that fire fighters receive priority access to vaccines along with other first responders in national pandemic situations. Stuff like that. Nyman, D.C. is a federal district, so I might consider directing the Department of Health and Human Services to establish a specific health exchange there. I will discuss these directives with the president before I issue them.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Current ticket predictions? on: July 09, 2014, 12:54:34 pm
Paul would never do Rubio or Lee

Why, because it would be a double senator ticket? It worked for Obama/Biden.


Too much ideological redundancy, making the ticket prone to being attacked as "far-right"

I got news for ya: If both candidates on the GOP ticket oppose marriage equality and abortion, they will be attacked as far-right anyway. Since both candidates will oppose marriage equality and abortion, they will be attacked as far-right. Plus, the presidential candidate will have a Republican primary to go through.

I mean, Mitt Romney, the "Massachusetts moderate flip-flopper" was attacked for this. It's something any Republican will have to deal with, and frankly it will probably work until the party changes its tone.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 09, 2014, 12:49:40 pm
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I will also be issuing more directives than my predecessors and encouraging the senate to pass bills that actually require me to do things. If all levels of government are working together, we can make the game much more immersive. Napoleon seems on board with the idea of a more interactive game as well, so I'm hoping that the stories he creates will be able to fuel the type of discussion and cooperation I'm talking about for the Council of Regional Executives.

How should we go about encouraging this approach when the history of such directives being ignored serves to discourage it from being done in the future?

I think the directives are sort of separate from the "getting all levels of government to work together" stuff (although if the senate does authorize me to distribute funds to the regions, I will of course seek their input and then issue the disbursements using a directive). The way I see it, CARE and however else I communicate with the regional executives is about organizing people and ideas so that they can better tackle issues when they are best equipped to do so. That being said, there will be occasions where I have the power to take action on my own. In that regard (and this will sound selfish Tongue), the directives are sort of a "me thing" in that they give me the power to actually "do" stuff. I look at them like executive orders (I will not be creating stories by directive; my stories will be more like brief news clippings). In that case, they will sometimes be of the nature that it doesn't really matter if people see them or not* (I will notify the people who my directives affect directly).

*[EDIT: I don't mean that I will not post them publicly, rather that some people may not go to the trouble of reading them. The people who need to know that a directive has been posted will be informed in private as well.]

Still, it will be important to keep in touch with lawmakers and the press so that there's more a of a connect between my job and the rest of Atlasia. Although the average Atlasian citizen might not care if I mobilize resources to brace for the aftermath of a hurricane, I think it improves the experience of the game if that stuff gets published elsewhere.

Re: encouraging the senate to pass bills that give me something to do, right now there's already a lot of legislation on the wiki that authorizes the SoIA to take action. In many cases, no action has yet been taken (and in many others the power does not seem to expire after a given time). If things are slow, I will fulfill some of these outstanding obligations after conferring with the president. Hopefully after seeing that an active SoIA can effectively execute legislation, the senate will pass more bills giving me some personal discretion over the form of their implementation. I will follow debate, and if I see an opportunity for me to play a role, I'll make that suggestion. If the senate disagrees, no big dealóI'll have enough to do anyway.
87  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What AP classes/tests have you taken? on: July 08, 2014, 11:33:57 pm
We didn't have AP options at our school. We really should have.
88  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: RISK Domination XI: Introduction on: July 08, 2014, 10:05:02 pm
I'm not sayin' nothin'. Tongue But yes that's my assessment.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is Bernie Sander's Floor? on: July 08, 2014, 01:38:55 am
24%
90  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ontario municipal elections, (October 27, 2014) - Master thread on: July 07, 2014, 11:50:40 pm
Hazel's retirement is pretty exciting for Mississauga. Not that Crombie and Mahoney are really any different from each other, but just the prospect of a new mayor is so strange. I think I'm gonna go with Mahoney myself.
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 07, 2014, 10:22:58 pm
You've said that storytelling may not be a primary focus of yours, but this question/scenario may come up in other areas.

As I'm sure you know, the GM has the final authority on the legitimacy of anything the IA/EA does. If the GM were to "void" one of your stories/findings/actions, how would you respond publicly? Privately? Do you believe there will be enough of a discrepancy between the offices to even create such an issue in the first place?

I'll work with Napoleon to make sure everything is approved beforehand to avoid that situation. I know there's a rocky history between him and I, but both of us want to make this arrangement work. If a story I publish does get voided, it gets voided and we move on. He's the GM; I'm not.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 07, 2014, 07:53:22 pm
I am quite confident of Hagrid's skill and committment, so I believe voting for him will be incredibly easy. But since the confirmation hearings should always have questions:

-How do you plan to deal with the news aspect of the position? In addition to implementation of policies, do you plan to write about their consecuences or would you rather leave that to the GM?

This is something I've talked with Napoleon about, and we both agree that for the time being, storytelling isn't going to be my main area of focus. Maybe Napoleon can chime in here himself, but I anticipate that he will be creating a number of stories and it will be my job to "organize" people so that the different levels of government can deal with whatever situations he throws at us. I also have the authority to issue directives: If we've got a potentially devastating hurricane on the way, I can ready the resources Atlasia already has at its disposal to deal with the response/evacuation/etc.

That being said, I do consider the SoIA to be part of Atlasia's game moderation team, and I know the president wants us to be more than narrators and spokespeople. Napoleon will give me the odd story to disseminate, and at the bare minimum, I will also create one story per month in accordance with the Fifteenth Amendment. In addition to stories that are unique to Atlasia, I'll probably have some kind of news ticker going to keep people up-to-date on real-life events that trickle into the game. Any stories I issue will go through the GM and SoEA first. Just want everyone on the same page. I'm guess that Napoleon's stories will be "big picture" stuff and I'll be free to fill in some details on more of a micro-scale.
93  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2016 GOP Convention now between Cleveland and Dallas. on: July 07, 2014, 06:55:16 pm
The 9-member Republican site-selection committee is set to make a decision as early as tomorrow and as late as July 31st with a full RNC vote expected no later than August 9th. Members of the Democratic Committee are set to visit Cleveland Aug. 4th and 5th.

There's not many hints on how they will vote, but it's a matter of whether they would rather appeal more to Hispanics, or more to African Americans, whether they would prefer a city rising in population, or a city decreasing in population, and whether they want to sit it out and have to wait to have their convention until August at latest, or get an early fundraising start by having the convention in June. To sabotage a potential Democratic location, or not to sabotage? To please Ted Cruz and Rick Perry, or to please John Kasich and Ohio's 2 Senators? To have a convention in a state they will win, or a state that they won't win, again? There's just so many questions for those 9 to ask themselves.

It's worth noting that while the Republicans most recent convention in Dallas was as recent as 1984 with Reagan/Bush, Cleveland hasn't held a Republican convention since 1936 when Republicans were more friendly to the domestic programs.

If it does end up being Cleveland, then our Democratic base here is still going to protest when the time comes. Racists aren't welcomed in Cleveland.

You're so cool.
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: So Michael's grandparents visited us in Scotland last week... on: July 07, 2014, 06:22:23 pm
I don't think anyone should be accused of "wishful thinking." That phrase implies that there was just an honest misunderstanding and that the two groups were merely incompatible. The truth is, the grandparents are a pair of bigoted assholes who came no where close to deserving such good hospitality. I would've snapped right away.

My aunt has recently taken to posting garbage on Facebook about how freedom of religion only counts for Christians. Or how Muslims shouldn't be allowed to wear burqas in public. Or how she's proud that she "doesn't believe" in homosexuality. Well, I've started causing sh**t and calling her out on it. It would almost be funny how poorly she defends herself if it wasn't such a sad reflection on the bigotry of some people in the West.
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 07, 2014, 06:02:51 pm
CARE actually achieved what I had intended when I created it nearly two years. That is, I talked to the other regional executives more often after its inception, mostly via PM, and I think we all built better relationships among ourselves.

The trouble was that several of us left office at the same time and there wasn't anyone to carry the torch forward that fall. Scott made an attempt, but he didn't get much of a response. Something sanctioned by the SoIA that brings in more stakeholders might have better luck, particularly as the Pacific and the Midwest are doing much better now then they were at the time. (If I remember correctly, this was the same summer that Midwest Governor Hawkeye "forgot" to hold regional elections for a couple of months.)

Anyway, I hope that I'm not intruding, but I wanted to provide a bit of historical background.

No, I'm glad you're here. I didn't follow it all that much at the time because I wasn't a regional executive, so it's good to know that things were going on behind the scenes as well. Collaboration lifts the game up.
96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 07, 2014, 05:27:17 pm
I don't think there is even need to create a Council for Atlasian Regional Executives because there is already a CARE but it has not been active in some time. Maybe you could frsshen up preamble and bylaws to suit your objectives.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=158409.0

Well, you're exactly right. This is where I got the idea from. I think it suffered from a bit of a lack of commitment, and it was difficult to keep going because the turnover between governors was high. I think the key to success this time around is making sure that it's not just CARE in its own right, but a body that also represents the interests of the senate and the administration (that is why I'd want myself, as the SoIA, to be a part of it). If we find that a new trial run of CARE is successful, it might be something the senate thinks about entrenching in law so that it doesn't fall into obscurity. I think having the SoIA involved could also help keep it going because the SoIA has more time to administer something like CARE.

That being said, I also accept that this thing might not work, which is what happened the first time around. That's why I'm not really committing to it as a centrepiece of my tenure. Honestly, the main priority is just increasing communication and cooperation wherever possible. If it comes down to an old-fashioned PM chain, that's what it comes down to. But I think having been in party leadership gave me a good understanding of what it takes to reach out to key people, get folks involved, and get things moving.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Potential dark horse on: July 07, 2014, 04:08:14 pm
Presiding over the Republican victories of 2010 means piss-all. Come on. A steaming pile of garbage could've been the RNC chairman at the time and we still would've seen Republicans take the House.

I don't think it's unrealistic. Granted, he starts out at a disadvantage by not having elected office, but 2010 was considered one of the biggest wave elections and Steele presided under it, which shows a strong amount of leadership. Additionally he would be appealing to party leaders as an African-American. As long as he runs to the right, he should have a pretty good chance at the nomination. In terms of the general, if he runs like he did for Governor he could be a formidable opponent to Hillary - if she doesn't nominate a black VP I could see African-Americans leaving the Democratic Party in droves.

I think he's joking...

I know he's joking. I'm just don't think Steele deserves credit for anything whatsoever. Tongue
98  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you think Obama regrets ever having run for President? on: July 07, 2014, 04:05:37 pm
I think so. I mean, he must realize that his meteoric rise and freshman status in 2008 didn't really endear him to Republicans in Congress who were the complete opposite of "change." I'm not saying a president should pander to senior politicians from the other party, but I think it would have helped if he'd at least taken the oath with a bit more credibility among the likes of, say, Mitch McConnell.

So maybe he doesn't regret the idea of becoming president, but rather that he didn't wait a little longer to pull the trigger. Mind you, the country has become much more socially progressive under Obama. I know the country would've trended in that direction with or without him, but it might not have been as intense under a Hillary presidency. So if he doesn't have regrets, it's probably because he's proud of the example he's set for young Americans.
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 07, 2014, 03:54:17 pm
Hi everyone!

Superique sent me a message the other day asking what my plans were if confirmed, and I think my response is probably a good opener here:

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My big goal is to find a way to make what happens in the senate actually matter. Right now, the senate is passing and debating a ton of cool motions, but they rarely make it into the news on the main Atlasia board. Plus, once the bills pass, we're essentially done with them. I'm hoping to bring the regions into the fold (they also tend to operate in isolation) so that once something passes in the senate, they get a say on its implementation within their jurisdictions. For example, now that the senate has passed comprehensive health care reform, Emperor Scott is working on setting up a unique exchange in the IDS. I want to be able to facilitate some of the "ripple" between the senate and the regions.

One thing I might explore is setting up a provisional Council of Atlasian Regional Executives to bring the governors together so that we can discuss the best ways to "execute" federal legislation. I talked about this idea in a few threads during the last presidential campaign. Although health exchanges will not require much cooperation, having the regions share their ideas may be beneficial. What is more, if other comprehensive legislation passes through the senate that actually does require significant cooperation between the regions, we will have a framework in which the regions can actually talk about their ideas. One example I've used here is public transportation funding: The regions could work together to draft plans that work for their citizens and the country as a whole.

I will also be issuing more directives than my predecessors and encouraging the senate to pass bills that actually require me to do things. If all levels of government are working together, we can make the game much more immersive. Napoleon seems on board with the idea of a more interactive game as well, so I'm hoping that the stories he creates will be able to fuel the type of discussion and cooperation I'm talking about for the Council of Regional Executives. Even if the Council does not come to be, my goal is to at least facilitate a more open line of communication. Having a more interactive game will be particularly interesting now that we've got an active press. If something big is going on in the senate, I want everyone talking about it. I hope to do the media circuit often. The goal really is to make things more interesting without overstepping our bounds. I think it's doable.

On top of that, an obvious priority is the Pacific Stimulus. I've already been in contact with TheCranberry and Superique to try and get something going on that front. We want to stretch the current package of $10 billion as far as we can, so I think we need to emphasize investing in projects that will create permanent jobs and draw money into the area (there's untapped potential in tourism for the Pacific that's worth exploring).

Anyway, I'll shut up and let you ask questions. Tongue
100  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: If Romney had been the nominee and won in 2008, would we have the ACA? on: July 07, 2014, 03:35:20 am
Romney would have lost '08

Yeah, but even Jesus would've lost in '08 if he was representing the party of Bush.
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