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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Romney all but endorses Johnson on: September 07, 2016, 09:53:28 pm
What an honourable man.
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls on: September 07, 2016, 09:49:11 pm
Thank God.
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL-PPP: Trump +1 (4-way), Clinton +1 (2-way) on: September 07, 2016, 01:01:21 pm
Jesus, the American people really are stupid as f-ck, it seems.
79  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Drezner: Clinton Seems More Tainted Than Trump, even though she isn't. Why? on: September 06, 2016, 06:05:55 pm
Also, she's a woman.

Smiley
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Proves Republican Obama Hate Was Never About Obama’s Ideas on: September 04, 2016, 01:53:18 pm
I have been saying for years that conservatism in America is cultural not ideological. Is this news to people?

Yeah, because you're still wrong.

lol
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Poll: Trump's Mex trip & AZ speech affect on nat'l poll numbers on: September 04, 2016, 11:36:12 am
I think what people are failing to realize is that Trump has masterfully managed to have it both ways. Most people don't care about details and only want spin. Trump has managed to simultaneously look reasonable with a foreign trip, which will appeal to suburban women, and tough with his speech, which will keep the base energized. The media is finding it too muddled for their taste, and they're reporting the muddle. Some might think that's bad for Trump, but the truth is, when it's muddled, there's enough doubt for people to project their own hopes onto Trump.

I doubt anyone over there is smart enough to have choreographed this deliberately, but I really think Trump has had a fantastic week, especially next to Hillary's horrible one. And I'm not sure how she climbs out. It is true that Trump is now able to make news by being responsible in the face of his past irresponsibilities, because seeming moderation on his part is such a shocking news story. What can Hillary do? Actually though. I'm not sure.
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Proves Republican Obama Hate Was Never About Obama’s Ideas on: September 04, 2016, 11:27:33 am
I have been saying for years that conservatism in America is cultural not ideological. Is this news to people?
83  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the "Polyamorous community" on: September 03, 2016, 01:15:34 pm
I just wish that people would refrain from invoking moral principles when they aren't willing to follow them to their logical conclusion.

Yeah, that's really my problem with the "pro" side in this thread. Even if I happen to more or less agree with them, I really can't stand the sort of arguments they use.

Well, I think the point Mopsus raises actually crystallizes the key differences between polygamy and polyamory.

"Regulation" would seem to more affect the practitioners of polygamy than polyamory, and that may well be justified when we are talking about the legal institution of marriage. But when we're talking about polyamory and private relationships between consenting people, the need for "regulation" seems weak.

I hope this isn't an insulting comparison, but it's kind of like the difference between the state applying regulations to a registered business and the state applying regulations to a garage sale. There's not really any reason to intervene in the garage sale unless stolen goods or toxins are being distributed. There's not really any reason to intervene in a polyamorous, non-marriage arrangement unless someone is being harmed.
84  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the "Polyamorous community" on: September 03, 2016, 12:22:04 pm
Seems from Nathan's response to my post that everything comes down to individual presuppositions that are based on nothing but gut feeling or religious dogma. That is how people like him and Antonio are able to allege that polyamory "degrades society"—they cannot prove it hurts anyone, so they say it degrades society based only on their presuppositions. How does it degrade society? It perpetuates something they don't like... and that's all.

You can point out the logical and intellectual flaws of that, sure. But you can't really argue with it, because they are the same mechanisms that others use to defend bigotry, discrimination, etc. I'm not saying being against polyamory is tantamount to being a bigot, but it does certainly seem like it's a position that involves the same sort of wilful close-mindedness.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Foundation Violated Tax Laws, Paid IRS Penalty on: September 03, 2016, 12:05:00 pm
Wait, are you people actually surprised that there is a double standard...? Maybe some of you are new to supporting Hillary Clinton, lol.

I watched CNN for a couple hours yesterday. No mention of this story whatsoever.
86  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the "Polyamorous community" on: September 03, 2016, 02:38:25 am
Consent is not a magic spell that obviates every potential moral problem with a sexual act. It's a necessary but not sufficient aspect of sexual morality. I don't think anybody is arguing that it's somehow less objectionable to cheat on a partner you've ostensibly promised not to; rather, the principle on which people operate is that carrying on multiple sexual relationships concurrently is objectionable regardless of how the people involved feel about it.

And where exactly does this principle come from that makes it any more legitimate than the principle of accepting that 1) it is possible to love more than one person at a time and 2) that consenting adults can do what they wish in the privacy of the bedroom?

The morality you're talking about seems almost dogmatic. How can something be immoral if it's not hurting anyone? Isn't it lazy to denounce something as immoral "just because" (or, even worse, "just because [I don't like it]")?
87  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the "Polyamorous community" on: September 02, 2016, 10:26:30 pm
Obviously fine if everyone involved freely consents to the arrangement.
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who wins? on: September 02, 2016, 08:32:35 pm
Clinton is heavily favoured, but I don't see many opportunities for her to change the narrative of the race. And under the current narrative she keeps bleeding and the electorate continues to be desensitized to typical Trump.

She needs a strong debate performance, which is not garaunteed against Trump. She also needs for him to make a Khan-style gaffe.

Needless to say, I'm nervous.

Plus, who knows what DNC leaks are coming in the first week of November? Add to that another ISIS style attack in the United States, and it is not too difficult to see how Trump could win.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GE Wk 5: Who won the week? on: September 02, 2016, 06:59:27 pm
Easily Trump. He's meeting with African American community leaders, making foreign trips, appeasing his base while also sending the message that his vision is moderating...

Meanwhile Hillary is stuck in e-mail and Clinton Foundation turmoil.
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: VA-Emerson: Clinton +1 on: September 02, 2016, 12:45:03 pm
If it really was this close, Clinton wouldn't have the ads. The fact that her staff is advising her to prepare for a landslide tells you all you need to know about this election. It is not going to be close at all.

Mitt Romney's staff told him the same thing.
91  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: VA-Emerson: Clinton +1 on: September 02, 2016, 12:13:39 pm
At this rate, I think it makes a lot more sense to agree that things have tightened significantly than to find reasons to doubt every poll.

It may be true that this poll is questionable at best. But it's not a total fabrication. Give Clinton a few extra points and the race is still closer than it should be, and certainly too close for comfort.
92  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: This race could tighten up. on: September 02, 2016, 10:47:28 am
I mean the only way this race closens is barring more email stuff or Trump makes a serious comeback. Neither of those are likely ( and even if they were I think he'll flunk not only the debates, but also make some gaffes along the way)

I think you underestimate the e-mail stuff, sadly. It doesn't have to be new or earth-shattering e-mail news. It just has to be more of the same drip that garners media attention. And then she drops. She is, of course, held to a way different standard than Trump.
93  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian by-elections, 2016 (next event: Newmarket, ON; Ward 5 [Oct 17]) on: September 02, 2016, 10:40:41 am
Scary. That's all the insight I can offer. Human weather vane Patrick Brown is a much better politician than Kathleen Wynne.
94  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is the race tightening? on: September 01, 2016, 09:51:12 am
people are dumb
95  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Rasmussen - National: Trump +1 (4-way) on: September 01, 2016, 09:50:36 am
5 point swing to Trump, dang. Another data point showing, at least, a tightening race.

Yes, it's pretty willfully ignorant now to maintain that the race hasn't tightened. It's clear that Trump did "win the week" last week. It's sad, really, that the standards are so low for Trump, but... they are.
96  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Seriously? Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: August 31, 2016, 01:46:15 pm
Meh, it's true that I was a closeted gay conservative. And yeah, I didn't support marriage equality (I guess it was partly out fear of being found out). I'm ashamed of many of the positions I held back then. But even so, I don't think I ever accused gay people of being "against the natural order," and if I did I sincerely, sincerely apologize. Being uncomfortable with your sexuality is a sh-tty thing.

Anyway, Windjammer has apologized, so it's fine.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton to give a speech on American exceptionalism to American Legion in Ohio on: August 31, 2016, 11:32:04 am
I hope today's episode can put to rest the comparisons some have made between Beet and myself. I like the guy, but this is too much, even for me.

Obviously the plan is to heavily emphasize the fact that Trump does not believe in today's America, despite the fact that things are so much better than they've ever been for so many more people in the United States. Maybe she can take the wind out of Trump's sails as he tries to address immigration.

Also, there's nothing she could say to make her favourables any better. She has already gone to extreme lengths to address this nonsense.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Politico: Clinton camp thinks Trump fell for old trick on: August 31, 2016, 11:26:10 am
If this is such a brilliant trick, then why are they leaking it now? Why not let it run longer? Oh yes, they need a positive news story because their candidate is so disliked.

F Hillary Clinton. The Clintons have destroyed the Democratic party, the progressive movement, and the country.

I prefer to offer the big F to Republicans and the American people at large, because Hillary Clinton is eminently qualified to be president, is a clear progressive, and a fantastic president-in-waiting, even moreso if the Democrats win Congress. Do not put this bullsh-tery on her. The GOP would have done this to any candidate, especially any threatening and ambitious female one. Chill.

(That being said, their tactics could still work, of course.)
99  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If you were a Muslim woman, would you wear a hijab? on: August 31, 2016, 07:35:07 am
Yep, probably as a political statement much like what Seyla Benhabib discusses in her writing on laïcité/French secularism.
100  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Pokemon Go is starting to look like a flop on: August 30, 2016, 01:56:38 pm
I guess I picked a bad time to start playing. Tongue But I almost caught a Gengar!
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