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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 13, 2014, 11:09:21 am
Jeremy segway boy ryan is Paul Ryan's primary opponent.
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 13, 2014, 07:31:49 am
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.  

'Scars'? You can't be serious.

They kind of just ruin the mood.  I have a warm memory of visiting the capitol in grade school, it really is one of the most beautiful capitols in the country and one of the few 'fully - functioning - museum - landmark' ones.  It probably wouldn't be as warm a memory if I witnessed asylum patients chanting tongues.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQl-WD2aWY
You can here them in the background as segway boy rides around babbling and chanting harassing nonsense and then lying about what he's saying.     Ryan repeatedly harassed Gwyn Guenther, reporter and daughter of the deceased longtime Capitol reporter Dick Wheeler, the founder of the Wheeler Report, a popular Capitol news service. Guenther has since moved her office from the Capitol to avoid hearing segway boys chant of "wheeler's dead" everyday.  
 
...on the other hand you did get this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDihYmhsMA awesome spontaneous counter protest of the protesters from high school kids.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJzhzGfqDI
To top it off Dekker hit a late 3 to win the title, those Sheboygan Lu kids have class.  
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 12, 2014, 07:12:10 pm
Yes, clearly Mitt "if you want to start your own business, asks your parents for money!" Romney became successful from scratch...LOL
Didn't happen (as far as I know, and I'm pretty sure).  He had access to capitol, so I don't see why he would want any money from his parents.  Mitt isn't a taker like most wealthy democrats.  Mitt had more money than his dad by far when he died, so he donated his entire inheritance to endow a college in his father's name.  It's like every lefty automatically assumes parents have to throw money at their kids and kids have to be net takers... or they are trying to perpetrate a lie about someone.  Again, can't support Burke by your own standard.  
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 12, 2014, 10:05:39 am
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.   
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 11, 2014, 08:53:20 pm
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 

I'm not talking about "the Romneys", I'm talking about Willard M. Romney. Remember, your presidential nominee from a year and a half ago? I can understand why you'd like to forget though.
Yeah, if you count Romney's life as "work", then Burke's should as well. And the Mormon Missionary crap don't count dawg.
Lets weigh this out:
A) Willard has a habit of building billion dollar companies from scratch or the scrape heap.  That's work any way you define it.
B) Dick Burke's daughter has a habit of taking several year long snowboarding sabbaticals from    "her job" at daddies company.  That isn't work any way you look at it.   

...I keep hoping the lefties will be coherent and logical and examine facts, but no.  They only offer hypocrisy, inconsistent, and flawed emotional 'thoughts'. 
This instance is an example.  Democrats make up some standard for Romney or Ryan that they supposedly don't meet (which dems have to kinda lye and fudge about, but wtev). If you take THEIR OWN STANDARD and apply it to THEIR candidate, than they are forced to confront the fact that Burke obviously doesn't meet their own standard.  So then you get these interesting child-like reactions "grrrr ahhh  Ryan, Romney are sort of as bad as our candidate if you lie about them... grrr damn GOP is racist anyway."

 Just say we were wrong to make that crap up about Romney and Ryan and we are ready to move on without manufacturing class warfare, as that is the only way we can logically support Marry Burke whose only actual political asset is her entirely inherited wealth.  I understand you can't because the brain dead in your base actually believe your false narratives and are thus permanently programmed to hate on an ideological basis and mob dynamics.                           
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 11, 2014, 06:09:08 pm
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 12:01:01 pm
I'm not sure why so many liberals and Democrats on the Forum are happy over this result. Yes, Cantor was a thorn in the side of any attempts at bipartisanship, even by Boehner, but whoever takes his role can be assured from this election result to be worse.

Any chance of even partial immigration reform has been pushed back at least several years.

On every other issue under the sun, any member of the GOP caucus even dreaming about a bipartisan move towards the sensible center will, more than ever, now fear of being "Cantored" by the far right. (And in a couple weeks, I fear, the Senate GOP caucus will live in terror of being "Cochraned").

Dems can't even be happy over a potential race for this district. Brat may be pretty extreme, but it's a +10 R district. The GOP is going to keep this hands down. At worst we MIGHT have to put a BIT of $ in to ensure a win, and probably only if Brat pulls some Akin-like comments.
Democrats don't want immigration reform (unless it's immediate full citizenship for every illegal immigrant)
Republicans want immigration reform.
Democrats can be happy because now Republicans are unlikely to force them to vote against reform again and they can keep the issue benefiting them.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 09:55:49 am
Yea, I found an article where he explains how he can spend 4 days in DC and 3 in Janesville in a policy position (ways and means), but a leadership position (speaker) requires you to spend weekends flying around the country politicking and fundraising.  He also explains how he accepted VP nomination because it would mean more time with his family than a policy position in the house.  Talk around here is he won't seek the position  -- only chance would be if the caucus "drafted" him.     
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 11, 2014, 09:43:07 am
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 08:53:33 am
Ryan has already reiterated he's not interested in elected leadership. Either W&M or much less likely, a POTUS run.
Yes, but I have had the impression that when he said "I'm not interested in leadership" it was because he had a good relationship with Boehner AND Cantor (and no interrest in whip).  So, I think it's pretty reasonable to consider the possibility that things have changed. 
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 08:29:25 am
If you are Paul Ryan, do you continue on current track to ways and means chair, or do you take this opportunity to become Speaker? (assuming Boehner isn't long for the job)
12  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Romney 2012: The Last Great White Campaign on: November 11, 2012, 06:52:47 pm
Dems lost on all the "major" issues, but tricked people with their embarrassing pandering.  Free birth control shouldn't trump the economy, but Chicago found a way.  It will be interesting to see how the D's play this.  You can't keep the base of the party happy (lunatics) and do the much needed work on serious issues.  This incompatibility inevitably leads to a breakup of the coalition to some extent.  The only way to win 'competence credit' is to enact a minimum 80% R economic plan, which poses more political issues in 2014-2016. 

     
13  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama will lose the election on: November 05, 2012, 06:34:49 am
Yea, I really don't know that Obama(incumbent) leading Romney(challenger)  48-47 is actually leading.  Also, the turnout model could well be closer to 2010 than to 2008 and the polls have been closer to 08... we will see. 
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which parties' voters drink more alcohol? on: October 30, 2012, 08:51:02 pm
What about the millions of fizzy, yellow, light beer guzzling NASCAR and football fans (I am admittedly a part of the latter)? I can assure you that Republicans consume just as much, if not more beer, than their Democratic counterparts. Democrats probably win on liquor and fruity mixed drinks, for what it's worth.
That's another fun thought. Who drinks more of certain drinks. First thoughts.

Scotch: Republicans
Bourbon: Republicans
Fine Wine: Democrats
Cosmos: Democrats
Mass produced beer: Republicans
Microbrews: Democrats
etc.

Republicans win on Brandy consumption.  R leaning Wisconsin Germans account for 15% of the nation's consumption by themselves. 
15  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: What't the most likely map on Election Night? on: October 29, 2012, 08:38:26 am



Romney only needs one of the greys or both of the greens.  Obama has to sweep everything but one of the greens. 
16  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Sarah Palin: "Shuck and jive ends with Benghazi lives" on: October 27, 2012, 09:08:04 am
Palin has more than Obama.  

Dude you only have to hear them speak for a couple of minutes to know she's a dope and he's of at least a bit above average intelligence.

That's dialect bias.  You can put a clip of Palin making a good point and a clip of Obama making a stupid point next to each other and Obama will sound/look more intelligent.  Most people and the media will have that impression, which is why I wouldn't support Palin -- if I personally liked her as a candidate in the first place (which I don't).  So, once you get beyond a baseless impression you would have to weigh each body of work.  The similarities are quite amazing...
both:
think poorly on their feet
have poor command of most issues
are so dependent on slogans you wonder if they have anything behind the rhetoric (Palin probably has a more realistic "vision", but mostly because she chose better people to copy from)
Get sidetracked into small pointless issues, making themselves smaller and smaller
etc etc

Palin at least has a track record of good decision making skills on her side.  You can't get around that, other than pretending it doesn't count or doesn't exist or something.   
         
17  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: The Official 2012 Campaign Ad Thread on: October 27, 2012, 08:46:24 am
And Republicans wonder why young people and women don't vote for them.
...Obviously, We don't understand that voting is like sex and that every (young) women would prefer to have sex with Obama this time.  Seriously, please continue your war on women.     
18  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Sarah Palin: "Shuck and jive ends with Benghazi lives" on: October 27, 2012, 08:37:53 am
I just wanted you to reconcile your "foolish" looking contradictions into coherence.  That doesn't make me "look foolish". 

As for qualifications, you could say you don't care about them or they aren't important, but you can NOT deny that Palin has more than Obama.  She more than successfully ran 3-4 enterprises, while Obama has never run a single enterprise successfully.  Perhaps he did a good job at the Harvard Law Review, but he is secretive about that and thus we don't really know, thus hard to judge.  Obama does have reading skills and probably writing skills, but Palin has those as well, so that is a wash.  Neither is bright, but BO went to more prestigious schools...  So, once again we are back to Obama's college background as a qualification for POTUS.  His econ 101 class is really paying off.       
19  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: The Official 2012 Campaign Ad Thread on: October 26, 2012, 01:32:02 pm
I cannot believe actual human beings are upset by that ad. It was silly, stupid, uncouth, beneath the dignity of the presidency.

Further proof that Obama is completely dependent on tricking the dumb - low information voter into voting for him.  

Uh, everyone is, AN. It's impossible to win with only smart people+.
Possible to win without basing your entire campaign / governance on catering to dumbs.  Look at everyone of Ryan's congressional campaigns, Ron Johnson, Scott Walker, etc etc.     
20  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Sarah Palin: "Shuck and jive ends with Benghazi lives" on: October 26, 2012, 12:03:17 pm
This woman could have been Vice-President. Says it all really.

I would agree if you admitted that Obama and Biden are both the same or worse.  Biden is clearly insane and BO has revealed himself to be not just a lightweight, but also not at all bright.  Palin is also more qualified than Obama, which should either qualify her for VP or disqualify BO from the presidency. 
21  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Sarah Palin: "Shuck and jive ends with Benghazi lives" on: October 26, 2012, 10:04:04 am
It's called observing Republican rhetoric and how they've reacted to the first black president in a histrionic and often racist way. It's not just about his policies at all! Remember, he's a lazy, drug dealing, terrorist sympathizing, Muslim socialist who wants to enslave whites and probably isn't a real American.

And "shuck and jive" is just another example of the blatant racism that Republicans pretend is nothing when people call it out. It is still a racial term to most people, Sarah Palin knows it, and she loves when people defend her by saying it isn't racist because it gives cover to the fact that she was intentionally using coded language to embolden the actual racists who follow her. And that's a fact, jack. Smiley

Yes Sarah Palin is both stupid AND an evil genius coding secret messages that all whites know the meaning of AND have no idea what they mean/that they exist.  She also put hidden messages in Zeppelin albums that you can hear when you play them backwards.   
22  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: The Official 2012 Campaign Ad Thread on: October 26, 2012, 09:56:25 am
I cannot believe actual human beings are upset by that ad. It was silly, stupid, uncouth, beneath the dignity of the presidency.

Further proof that Obama is completely dependent on tricking the dumb - low information voter into voting for him. 
23  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Sarah Palin: "Shuck and jive ends with Benghazi lives" on: October 25, 2012, 12:06:40 pm
The term "shuck and jive" has been non racial for 40 to 50 years, but when Sarah Palin uses it... O' boy we're back in the 1850's all of a sudden. 

Weird how "jive talker" is a perfect description of Obama, but this phrase is horribly off key.     
24  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Is it possible to be "cool" and support Mitt Romney? on: October 25, 2012, 11:33:06 am
In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.

That's the entire rest of the world, not just Canada.  And it wouldn't necessarily be Barack Obama, but rather any Democratic presidential nominee.

The US is certainly a strange and unique place.

exceptional.  

Worse.

Only if you define the middle class as "the rich".  The entrenched super rich class owns the democrats.   They try to build a winning coalition as cheap and 'radical' as they can because you can mold 'untethered people' more easily to do/support what you want.  It's like giving candy to children.  Here's a free phone, here's free birth control, here's a racial quota, let's "go after" the 'rich' and make things 'fair', here's a government contract, here's a grant, here's a regulation to make you feel better...  It's literally throwing candy around treating everyone like children, but don't pay attention to what I'm doing over here, and never mind how we messed that up, THEY WANT TO TAKE THE CANDY AWAY!!!        

No, the rich prefer the Republicans, Amna.  The 'middle class' is just a few petite bourgeois, doctors, lawyers, and that sort of thing.  The vast, vast majority of Americans are poor or 'working class' persons.
The rich prefer Republicans, but the super-rich prefer Democrats.
super powerful people as well.  This tends to corespond to some sort of monopoly-ish powerful institution backed by or protected by the government or the dem party.   

Their is the tendency of inheritance based-majority wealth to be dem,
whereas individual based wealth to be R. 

The aviator scene is just profoundly insightful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br-ljup5Bow
25  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Who won the Debate? on: October 23, 2012, 02:58:39 pm
Obama didn't deliver a knockout punch. Romney didn't implode. It's debatable about who won.

However, I voted Romney, because he came out as far more presidential than Obama did.

How is someone more "presidential" if he says things that are inaccurate and appears incompetent in that area?

Obama loses on fact checks about 10 to 1.  Obama's childish 'tantrums' really were beneath his office and Romney is obviously a man of substance, but more importantly (for gauging the impact of the debate) he looked Presidential.  It's amazing to watch Romney next to Obama, because he looks younger, more energetic, more in command, and obviously more competent.  
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