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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Lindsey Graham to Voter Suggesting Banning Islam: ‘I Don’t Want Your Vote’ on: Today at 05:51:28 am
The establishment has always been kind when it comes to race. I just dislike the fact that they aren't conservatives. It amazes me how the conservatives are the ones with racist ties.

Jack Hunter, Paul's director of new media, who also co-wrote Paul's 2011 book
The Tea Party Goes to Washington, is a former radio shock jock and former member of a neo-Confederate organization, according to a report in the Washington Free Beacon. Hunter is the second Paul staffer to have his troublesome views on racial issues revealed.

In the decade before he joined Paul's campaign, Hunter provided conservative commentary on the radio and on his website under the guise of his pseudonymous Southern character. In a 2004 article posted to his site and uncovered by the Free Beacon, titled "John Wilkes Booth Was Right," Hunter argued that "
Wilkes Booth's heart was in the right place," and that Lincoln was, in fact, "one of the worst figures in American history."


The problem with Donald Trump and Rand Paul is that they are not conservative and have race issues. Paul has been okay with white supremacists and Trump is using race as a wedge issue in his campaign. 

Huh Rand has never been associated with white-supremacists. It was only his father. And that is a problem. Also, we all know Trump isn't a racist. The problem is that we have racists that are more conservative than the moderates and the establishment, who in fact are not conservative

I just quoted you an instance when Rand Paul had a white supremacist on payroll. The guy opposes the Civil Rights Act of 1964, who else would oppose that? Answer: racists.

Donald Trump is a bigot who is clueless on issues. People that come here and commit crimes in addition to being here illegally commit crimes because they are bad people, not because of their backround. By the way, illegal immigration doesn't just cost taxpayers billions, Donald Trump has cost taxpayers millions himself and he's just one person!

Well that's untrue, and lazy. George Smathers who quite frankly wasn't racist voted against the civil rights act, heck JFK voted against the 1957 one.

I'd rather have Paul, who'd reform prisons and drug sentencing than Bush or Walker

Smathers primaried Claude Pepper partially over the latter's support of civil rights, signed the Southern Manifesto, called Brown a "clear abuse of judicial power", abstained (a tacit nay) on Thurgood Marshall's confirmation to the Court, and publicly denounced MLK (offering to pay an imprisoned MLK's bail only if he left the state). Find a better anti-racist hero.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: July 2015 Federal Special Election - At-large Senate on: July 03, 2015, 03:03:56 pm
[1] Harry S Truman
[2] Kalwejt
[3] Poirot
[4] Dkrolga
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1956 Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 pm
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Fast times in Boynton Beach... on: July 02, 2015, 08:19:14 pm
There was a pirate attack in Marathon today. Just another day in Florida.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will Obama be remembered in the top 10 of Presidents? on: July 02, 2015, 08:06:49 pm
If one considers gay marriage a noteworthy success, how much credit does Obama really deserve? He appointed Sotomeyor, but any Democrat would've appointed a 5th vote justice. It's like giving Ike credit for the Brown school desegregation decision.

Edit: And he appointed Kagen too.

That's a good point. I'm honestly not sure Stevens would have went along with such a ruling. He was, after all, a major advocate for judicial restraint.

"Individual decisions by married persons, concerning the intimacies of their physical relationship, even when not intended to produce offspring, are a form of ‘liberty’ protected by the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment" - John Paul Stevens, Bowers v. Hardwick (dissenting). That's the basic message of Kennedy's opinion, no?
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jim Webb Announces 2016 Presidential Run on: July 02, 2015, 07:24:38 pm
Bad news for O'Malley.

I don't think they appeal to the same crowd.    (Though I'm not exactly sure what crowd O'Malley does appeal to.)

People who don't like Hillary but don't want to vote for a socialist, I'd think. There have to be at least some moderate/conservative Dems who don't like Hillary.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jim Webb Announces 2016 Presidential Run on: July 02, 2015, 01:33:37 pm
Bad news for O'Malley.
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are You in Favor of Polygamous Marriage? on: July 02, 2015, 10:24:23 am
In principle, but as evergreen mentioned, you'd have to find a way for it to work with the current system - how would divorces and inheritance be handled, how power of attorney would be treated, how tax benefits and penalties would be assigned, etc.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How should Hillary respond to the Bernie challenge? on: July 02, 2015, 09:52:20 am
Argue electability. You're not going to out-left Bernie, and much of his appeal is being the anti-Clinton anyways. Try to prevent Biden from entering the race, and don't go negative unless there's a real threat.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: UPDATED: Which Party Should I Join? on: July 02, 2015, 09:46:44 am
I don't think you can get 'Medicare for All' without a big increase in taxes, btw.

Most of the plans I've seen would achieve that through eliminating the tax exemption for employer-provided health insurance. Seeing as we lose over a hundred billion annually on that exemption alone, the tax increase wouldn't have to be that dramatic.
11  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Erasing the Confederacy -How Far Would you Go? on: July 01, 2015, 10:37:39 pm
Only the first one. Is option five even necessary? I'm not aware of any Confederate holidays that are also federal holidays...

Many states commemorate Robert E. Lee Day, as well as a Confederate Memorial/Heroes/Decoration Day. My state also observes Jefferson Davis Day, as does Alabama.
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: UPDATED: Which Party Should I Join? on: July 01, 2015, 09:36:10 pm
You live in Maine, which has strictly closed primaries. Choose whichever party has more competitive primaries in your local area. Voted Dems, assuming they're more likely to have competitive primaries, but it's up to you.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie Sanders Attracting 9500+ People at Madison Rally on: July 01, 2015, 09:20:58 pm

Y'all look ready to nominate Donald Trump so I think you need to simmer down.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Southron posters: Have you ever owned any Confederate flag mechandise? on: July 01, 2015, 11:19:32 am
I have a few replica Confederate bills lying around somewhere - I assume a few of them have the flag on them.
15  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: If you could change 4 Supreme Court cases what would you change on: June 30, 2015, 10:24:37 pm
Gregg v. Georgia
Shelby County v. Holder
Buckley v. Valeo
Kelo v. City of New London
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1956 Conventions (The Hearse at Monticello) on: June 30, 2015, 09:54:14 pm
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Walt Disney on: June 30, 2015, 09:06:42 pm
No, Oldies, just because he hired jewish people, that does not mean he isn't anti-Semitic. Nixon hired the Stein family as speech writers, and it is quite hard to deny that Nixon was an anti-Semite.
I haven't seen any evidence that Nixon was anti-Semitic.

In an April 18, 1973 phone call with Spiro Agnew, Nixon said Jews were holding American foreign policy "hostage to Jewish emigration from the Soviet Union." He added, "Some of the Jews picket can raise hell, but the American people are not going to let them destroy our foreign policy — never!" This was a subject to which Nixon repeatedly returned.

As long as I'm sitting in the chair, there's not going to be any Jew appointed to that court. [No Jew] can be right on the criminal-law issue.

You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana are Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bobloblaw Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: June 30, 2015, 09:05:13 pm
" after upsetting Ron Paul's Libertarian ticket in the 1988 election."

Dude, it was a joke.

^Leinad's one of the sane L avatars.
19  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Europe & US/CAN getting baked the next 2 weeks on: June 30, 2015, 09:03:52 pm
Sunny and 95° now, sunny and 95° forever.
20  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: My Take on SCOTUS Ruling on: June 30, 2015, 12:25:17 pm
What is marriage in its basic secular, non-emotional setting? Two people entering into a consenting contract. Do gay people have this right? Should they have the same rights of power of attorney, inheritance and all other rights traditionally held my married couples in the traditional one man and one woman? Yes. Should states deny two people from entering into such a contract? No. Should states be able to define what marriage is? Yes, so long as it does not deny the rights of the individuals who enter into such a contract.

So are you essentially saying that the Court overstepped in saying that there is a Constitutional right to marriage, but that there is a right to enter into some type of civil unions with all the rights and privileges of a marriage contract that the states cannot deny to gay couples?
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bobloblaw Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: June 30, 2015, 09:58:35 am
He wasn't talking about Dubya (who I agree is pretty clearly among the 10 worst), he was talking about George Herbert Walker Bush, former CIA director, Reagan's veep, and President from 1989-1993, after upsetting Ron Paul's Libertarian ticket in the 1988 election.

Why is this in here?
22  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Foreign Languages Taught in US Public Schools on: June 29, 2015, 09:30:35 pm
Spanish and French are the obvious two. Other three should vary based on local needs.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinion of Jindal's campaign slogan: "Tanned. Rested. Ready." on: June 29, 2015, 07:41:34 pm
I don't like Jindal but this is a funny slogan. Why are people so hostile and anti-humor? Lighten up.

It's funny, but the people laughing aren't laughing with Jindal.
24  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: SCOTUS opinion watch on: June 29, 2015, 04:08:34 pm
No, all the Democratic appointed justices are moderates.

The Republican faction just has a mix of conservative but sane Justices, Roberts and Kennedy, and arch-conservative justices, Scalia, Alito and Thomas.

Moderates would disagree with each other on various issues, not vote lock step 90% of the time.  At least three, if not all, of the four liberal justices are ultra-liberals whose votes on controversial cases are so preordained that no one even speculates how they will vote.  It is known beforehand.

Even Scalia, Alito and Thomas agree with each other less than 90% of the time, unlike the liberals on the court.

That makes no sense. 

Why does voting together mean you're far-left?

And, isn't it more necessary to vote together if you're in the minority and you're trying to pick up a Roberts or Kennedy?

And, couldn't conservatives disagreeing just mean that there's more of a range from center-right Kennedy to far-right Thomas than there is between moderates Kagan and Breyer?

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on Ginsburg and Breyer since their votes were somewhat in doubt on the AZ commission case, but name me a 6-3 or 5-4 decision on which Kagan or Sotomayor took a conservative position.

Cavazos v. Smith, Howes v. Fields, Kurns v. Railroad Friction Products, Taniguchi v. Kan Pacific Saipan, White v. Woodall, Sorrell v. IMS Health, Kawashima v. Holder, Wetzel v. Lambert, Baker Botts v. ASARCO, Hall v. United States, Setser v. United States, Salazar v. Ramah Navajo Chapter.

I think that's all of them that have happened since both Kagan and Sotomayor joined the court, where Kagan/Sotomayor (one or both) were in the majority with the conservatives and Ginsburg/Breyer dissented. Whether they're 'conservative positions' I'm not sure, but they're cases where those two voted with the conservatives against the other two liberals.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Opinion of The Guardian on: June 29, 2015, 03:43:07 pm
Unlike most major papers, it has steadfastly refused to implement a paywall, which I greatly appreciate.
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