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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Predict Margin (%) for FL-Gov on: Today at 12:40:08 am
Crist: 48%
Scott: 47%
Wyllie: 4%
Others: 1%
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: The Statewide Office Newspaper Endorsements Thread on: October 19, 2014, 07:38:47 am
Crist just picked up the endorsement of the Palm Beach Post as well, leaving the Times-Union and the Democrat as the only major papers not yet to endorse. If the only newspaper Scott can get is the Trib, then Crist is in a really good spot (the Trib is a small, reactionary paper that endorses whoever the Times does not endorse in the hopes of boosting its market share).
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: What Network will you watch Election Night? on: October 18, 2014, 11:27:30 am
Local news (quasi-local - Bay News 9).
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: How is your opinion of Charlie Crist affected by his need for fan for his legs? on: October 18, 2014, 07:47:45 am
If you donate $5 the Crist campaign will send you your own fan.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / FL-St. Pete Polls: Crist up 2 in post-fangate poll on: October 17, 2014, 10:11:47 pm
Crist up 45-43, three points better than the St. Pete Polls poll before this one. A plurality of voters think Crist won the debate (38-25), and that the delay because of the fan hurt Scott (41-20). 52% said they watched the debate. Wyllie's at 8%.

The poll samples Republicans by about 3% more than Democrats, and is only 13% black and 8% Hispanic. It also includes breakdowns by media market, which is cool - Charlie leads in Tally, Tampa, West Palm & Miami.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 17, 2014, 09:22:59 pm
With the Herald today, that brings the Crist campaign up to three major papers (Herald, Times, and Sun-Sentinel). Obama only got the Times and Herald.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 17, 2014, 03:46:18 pm
I don't understand why people keep saying "oh it was 90 crist needed that fan " like every building here is air conditioned and it can get very hot under stage lights but why do they keep saying it was 90?

IIRC the candidates were doing all their prep in RVs outside and would be walking right in to debate from outside.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: How is your opinion of Charlie Crist affected by his need for fan for his legs? on: October 17, 2014, 03:45:15 pm
I think a more effective (but pretty costly) ad would be to air a commercial with nothing but a fan whirring for however long Scott refused to debate and then say 'this is how long Rick Scott waited to debate because of a fan.

That'd run well over the average length of a commercial break.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 17, 2014, 01:34:51 pm
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 16, 2014, 11:05:35 pm
When I saw the fan incident first on Google News at minimum 12 hours after the conclusion of the debate I could not help but think of four years earlier involving another debate between candidates for Florida governor with Alex Sink and two of her campaign aides. Rick Scott wins in 2010 by 60000 votes; a wider margin. Maybe I think elections are closer than they actually are but 60000 votes is a solid difference between two candidates. A state voting for a presidential candidate who represents the party opposite of the one that holds the state house in the state is not unusual. As a matter of fact a sign of a rejection by the Florida electorate of Rick Scott would be clear had the state gone for Mitt Romney. Rick Scott may well be Florida governor twice because he follows the rules.

See, the difference is that with the Sink thing it was clear to the average voter that Sink was cheating - the debate rules said she couldn't use a cell phone, and yet she used a cell phone to receive info on how to debate. Here, Scott's throwing a tantrum because Crist has a fan on a day when it's 90 degrees outside. General consensus is that this helps Crist - he's probably up 2 or 3 today.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 16, 2014, 09:18:20 pm
Pete Begala on the race.

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No matter. Crist will become governor again, and Rick Scott will slink back under the rock from whence he emerged. But even there, in the gritty grime of the fetid Florida sand, he will be recognized and remembered as the guy who blew it because of a fan.
When Dr. Thompson removed himself from this Earth he had his ashes shot out of a cannon. A spectacular explosion of fireworks scattered Hunter's earthly remains over Colorado. Rick Scott's political demise was considerably less spectacular; the remains of his career as a politician were blown all across Florida by a one-foot-wide electric fan.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 16, 2014, 02:59:55 pm
FWIW, the three minutes Scott didn't walk on stage has been played on nearly every news station here. People are talking about it.

Yeah, I heard about it on the normally nonpolitical talk show I listen to in the mornings, and several of my largely apolitical classmates were talking about it. Nobody seemed to be justifying Scott.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 16, 2014, 11:00:56 am
I don t think that will change a lot of things...

I m still believing Scott can win.

It's a stunning display of pettiness on the part of a sitting governor. Scott then followed that with a fairly poor debate, including implicitly admitting the reality of global warming, while Crist got questions about the environment - an area where his record is undoubtably superior. It's enough to shift a percentage point or two, which is all that matters.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 15, 2014, 09:29:43 pm
It isn't over yet, but...this was just...ugh.

"Privately, Republicans/Rick Scott loyalists are telling me the moment he didn't go onstage over fangate was the moment he lost the election." - Marc Caputo

I'm not calling it yet, but this is definitely a couple points - more than Sink '10 phonegate level.

It's his trademark, but if the agreement-which the moderators insisted upon keep in mind-was followed, the fan would have been removed. Charlie was a douche to begin with, but he got the reaction he wanted. Props to Charlie for a smart, borderline Nixonian move.

15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 15, 2014, 09:07:32 pm
While Scott shouldn't have thrown a hissy fit, let's not lose sight of the fact that diva Charlie needed a fan at his legs.

He always does that.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Democrats - which GOP governor do you most want to see lose? on: October 15, 2014, 08:19:48 pm
Rick Scott (Floridian)
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 15, 2014, 08:01:16 pm
Sunshine State News is a fairly right-wing news service and even they're attacking Scott over this.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 15, 2014, 07:53:56 pm
Blame for this is being placed on Brett O'Donnell, previously known as "Michele Bachmann's Rasputin".
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: October 15, 2014, 06:06:47 pm
Rick Scott has refused to show up at the debate because there was a fan on stage.

Edit: he's now on stage. Impressive performance - committing a gaffe before even opening his mouth. Seven minutes of debate time spent on fangate.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: FL: Tampa Bay Times: Tossup on: October 15, 2014, 12:27:58 pm
>14% undecided

Junk poll.


Not so much that as that the poll has been weighted based on registered voters rather than a turnout model.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: FL-Gov, St. Pete Polls: Scott in the lead on: October 14, 2014, 09:48:02 am
Lacks cell phones, but probably a fair assessment.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Who will win in Florida? on: October 13, 2014, 10:20:05 pm
This is a very bad joke but:
Rick Scott is literally the Anticrist

You're thinking of Ray Mabus.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Party October Convention - Platform Vote Now Underway! on: October 13, 2014, 07:55:26 pm
Aye
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which states qualify as culturally Southern? on: October 13, 2014, 12:26:22 pm
Florida outside of Miami is definitively the South.
Aye.  I lived in Panama City (Tyndall AFB) for 2 years and it's quite rednecky.  Especially if you dare to drive inland for about 10 minutes.  Where I was at wasn't too bad because of the AFB and the "party" culture of PCB, but head north and it turned Deliverance right quick.
I spent the night in Quincy, Florida. It's right on the Alabama border and I had to remind myself several times that I wasn't in Alabama Tongue.

I'd expand the Miami qualification all the way up to Orlando, minus the Everglades/central southwest Florida areas.

The line between 'South' and 'not-South' is very much an iffy line. Glades are definitely Southern, but Naples isn't. La Belle is, but Cape Coral isn't. Hell, Ocala is, but Gainesville really isn't. There's really no way to draw the line clearly, but I-4's probably the best line that exists.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Party October Convention - Platform discussion-Convention extended on: October 13, 2014, 11:41:22 am
I understand the President's concerns, but I'm personally very comfortable with the language. There is evil in the world, just not of the biblical kind.

Yet still, who are we it determine what is evil and what is good?
(I guess this is taking a bit of a too philosophical turn, so forget my objections) 

I'd assume there are certain basic moral and ethical principles that we can use to pretty clearly determine who is evil, based on our abolition of the slave trade, this resolution, the Nuremberg Charter, the United Nations Charter, the Rome Statute, and the World Summit Outcome Document. There are obviously going to be some grey cases, but we can point to places like Darfur, Rwanda, and Iraq and say that those are places where evil happened.
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