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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: WV-Gov: Manchin could run in '16 on: Today at 12:14:56 am
Ugh, I feel so bad for WV.  Trapped by a decrepit, corrupt, declining industry and their hack politicians.  About their only hope was for another Sen Byrd.  I guess their second best hope is a long population decline.
I dunno, Goodwin's cool, hopefully he runs in 2016.
Goodwin is still very young, but he was considered the most left wing member of the Senate during his tenure. I don't know what his future holds.

OT, but why do WV politicians always seem to have such hoity-toity names like Carte and Gaston and Jennings and Chapman? Especially considering the general population there seems more disposed to names like, say, Earl Ray.
Carte, Jennings, and Chapman all are/were common names just like Earl Ray. Take my own family from West Virginia for example. My great-grandfathers name was Tammy, my great-great grandfather's name was Hiram, and my uncle, grandpa, and great-grandpa from my other side of the family have or had Preston somewhere in their names. Likewise, my grandmother's mother was named Bertha and my grandfather's mother was named Velma.

IIRC, it is common in West Virginia to often name children using ancestral surnames.

This is true. Names like Jennings, Chapman, and Booth don't really stand out any more than Mike, Nick and Walt.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: 2004 Presidential Election: GAME THREAD on: April 18, 2014, 09:41:02 pm
John Edwards for President: December

December 14th
-Town hall in Kingsport, TN
-Town hall in Johnson City, TN
-Meet and greet in Elizabethton, TN
-Rally in Knoxville, TN

Unions made manufacturing jobs the foundation of our middle class, and they can do the same for our service economy. That's why Iím backed by the SEIU. Union membership can be the difference between a poverty-wage job and middle-class security. Federal law promises workers the right to choose a union, but the law is poorly enforced, full of loopholes, and routinely violated by employers. I support legislation to give workers a real choice in whether to form a union, and making penalties for breaking labor laws tougher and faster, so unions can compete on a level playing field and the right to join a union means something. I will also ban the permanent replacement of strikers so unions can negotiate fairly. Everyone deserves the opportunity to work hard and build a better life, and Iíll overhaul our labor laws to do that.

December 15th
-Rally in Oak Ridge, TN
-Meet and greet in Vonore, TN
-Meet and greet in Dayton, TN
-Rally in Chattanooga, TN

Now, I know what yíallíre thinking. Whatís John Edwards doing here in Tennessee? Shouldnít everyone here be voting for Al Gore? After all, he was yíallís Senator. But was he? Was he really? He grew up in DC, went to a private school in DC, went to Harvard. None of those sound very Tennessee to me. I grew up the son of a mill worker, the first in my family to go to college, and I worked my way through NC State. Which one of those in more in touch with people round here? Which oneís closer to here - North Carolina or Washington, DC?

December 16th
-Meet and greet in Pall Mall, TN
-Meet and greet in Castalian Springs, TN
-Rally in Nashville, TN

December 17th
-Town hall in Franklin, TN
-Meet and greet in Columbia, TN
-Meet and greet in White Bluff, TN

December 18th
-Meet and greet in Pinson, TN
-Meet and greet in Savannah, TN
-Meet and greet in Bolivar, TN

December 19th
-Meet and greet in Henning, TN
-Town hall in Memphis, TN
-Rally in Memphis, TN
-Flight to Virginia

What we need to do is make work pay. As President, Iíll raise the minimum wage and triple the earned income tax credit for adults without children, while cutting the EITC marriage penalty. A $1 increase in the minimum wage alone would have lifted 900,000 people out of poverty - increasing the reward for working will help far more. My goal is to get the thirty-seven million Americans currently living in poverty out of poverty, so we can truly build one America.

December 20th
-Meet and greet in Pocahontas, VA with Rep. Rick Boucher
-Meet and greet in Troutdale, VA with Rep. Rick Boucher
-Meet and greet in Critz, VA with Rep. Rick Boucher
-Town hall in Chatham, VA with Gov. Mark Warner

December 21st
-Meet and greet in South Boston, VA
-Meet and greet in Clarksville, VA
-Town hall in Petersburg, VA with Gov. Mark Warner
-Rally in Richmond, VA with Gov. Mark Warner
-Fundraiser in Richmond, VA with Gov. Mark Warner

Half of American families say they are living paycheck to paycheck, and three out of 10 American workers have not been able to save a dime for their retirement. Iíll crack down on abusive lenders by creating a new Families Savings and Credit Commission to protect families and with strong national laws against abusive and predatory credit cards, payday loans and mortgages. Iíll also create Work Bonds to help families save and invest, providing financial safety nets for hard times. Work Bonds, a new tax credit of up to $500, will help low and moderate-income, working Americans save for the future. The top 300,000 individuals now make more than the bottom 150 million - by making it easier to save, we can help reduce that difference.

December 22nd
-Meet and greet in Manakin, VA
-Meet and greet in Hopewell, VA
-Town hall in Charles City, VA with Gov. Mark Warner
-Meet and greet in Burrowsville, VA

December 23rd
-Meet and greet in Capahosic, VA
-Town hall in Williamsburg, VA with Gov. Mark Warner
-Rally in Hampton, VA with Rep. Owen B. Pickett and Gov. Mark Warner
-Meet and greet in Surry, VA

Trade deals need to make sense for American workers, not just corporations. Iíll make sure any new trade agreements include strong labor and environmental standards and will vigorously enforce American workers' rights in existing agreements. Iíll also expand trade adjustment assistance to do much more for the workers and communities that are hurt by global competition and reform our international tax code to remove incentives for companies to move overseas. Over the past 20 years, 40% of the income growth has gone only to the top 1 percent. Weíre growing apart - as President, Iíll work to bring us back together.

December 24th
-Christmas Eve service at St. Lukeís Church, Smithfield, VA

December 25th
-Christmas service at Bruton Parish Church, Williamsburg, VA

December 26th
-Town hall in Portsmouth, VA with Gov. Mark Warner
-Rally in Virginia Beach, VA with Rep. Owen B. Pickett and Gov. Mark Warner

As President, I pledges to protect the Davis Bacon Act, which ensures that workers on federal construction projects receive the local prevailing wage. The Act prevents contractors from slashing wages in order to win federal contracts with low-ball bids. I believe we cannot go on as Two Americasóone favored, the other forgottenóif we plan to stay productive, competitive and secure. I want to live in an America where we value work as well as wealth. I know that together we can build One America Ė a place where everyone has a fair shot at the American Dream. But to do that, we must build One American Economy, where everybody has the opportunity to work hard and build a better life.

December 27th
-Meet and greet in Cheriton, VA with Rep. Owen B. Pickett
-Meet and greet in Eastville, VA with Rep. Owen B. Pickett
-Flight to Des Moines

Endorsements

Gov. Mark Warner
As Governor of this great state, I donít make an endorsement lightly. But itís great to see another candidate, the first in his family to graduate and who worked his way through college, a self-made man, running for President. Itís also good to have another moderate Democrat campaigning on improving childrenís education and reforming our schools. Heís simply the best in the field, and heís got my vote.


Rep. Owen B. Pickett
In my long service to the state of Virginia and to my constituents, Iíve never seen a candidate whoís as much of an advocate for the people as John Edwards. He has my endorsement, and my vote.


Rep. Rick Boucher
John Edwards has a record of fighting for the betterment of the common man. He has my full support.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alex Sink running for Bill Young's old house seat on: April 18, 2014, 07:50:02 pm
Ehrlich is in.

Deep breaths, Democrats. We've got redemption on our hands.

Justice or Ken Welch (Walch?) would be far better.

I've heard that Justice was a lazy campaigner when he ran against Bill Young, but he otherwise seems pretty good.

It's Welch.

Justice was a lazy campaigner when he ran against Bill Young because he was running against Bill Young. Conventional wisdom held that Young was probably going to retire that year - that's why Justice, at the time a fairly young State Senator, was willing to gamble on running against him. Young ended up deciding to run and was unbeatable.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alex Sink running for Bill Young's old house seat on: April 18, 2014, 12:47:40 pm
Sykes to decide within next few days.

Personally, I'd be happiest if one of the County Commish Dems like Charlie Justice or Ken Welch got in.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS April 2014 Regional Election on: April 17, 2014, 11:48:08 pm
Emperor:
[1] Scott

District 2:
[1] Dereich
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If you were in Congress, what would you do if... on: April 17, 2014, 11:37:28 pm
On the face of it, it's the less moral option, but I'd go with option 1. I have little expertise in complex business regulations or government contracting and I'd certainly value the input of an educated constituent on that issue. I sympathize more with the single mother, but I already support allowing pharmaceutical purchases from places like Canada and Europe - she'd just be reenforcing what I already know about and believe in.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Election on: April 17, 2014, 11:04:43 pm
[1]Lumine
[2]WI: SJoyce
[3]Adam Griffin
[4]Shua
[5]Alfred F. Jones
[6]Goldwater
[7]A Person
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: If Dems lose the Senate in 2014, will they win it back in 2016? on: April 17, 2014, 10:12:09 pm
Even so, the Democrats need a credible challenger, who would that be? Strickland doesn't seem to care, Fischer'd be a joke, Brunner's a nobody, and I can't think of anyone else. I mean, Portman has to either be running for President or have a very good opponent for Republicans to lose the Seat.

DWS wouldn't beat Rubio but you're still willing to put her up there.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Tumblr Leftism vs. True Leftism on: April 17, 2014, 07:07:49 pm
What exactly is tumblr leftism?

Nothing the cis-normative smallfat-privileged genderfluid-hypersexualizing patriarchists on this website could understand, seeing how they will literally never understand interromantic poc issues.

^Like that except with a lot more cursing and use of the caps lock key.
10  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Balance of Power (Gameplay Thread) - Late 1902 on: April 17, 2014, 06:49:09 pm
Quote
The Three-Power Accord of 1902
1. This treaty shall supersede the Anglo-American and Anglo-Japanese Alliances.
2. The undersigned parties recognize the current territorial status of all other parties.
3. If any other power should attack a member of this alliance, it shall be considered an attack on all members and they shall provide such aid as they are able.
4. The members pledge to remain neutral if a member of this alliance should attack an outside power.
5. This treaty shall remain in effect for five years.
xHis Imperial Majesty The Emperor of Japan
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Cultural Protection Act (Debating) on: April 17, 2014, 05:02:43 pm
Amendment.

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Amendment to the Is Our Children Learning Act

14. To graduate high school, students shall be required to take at least two three years of a common foreign language at any level of their educational career or be able to prove proficiency in at least two languages. Such a language is defined here as: English (for non-English speakers), French, Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, German, Italian, Malay, Chinese, Dutch, Persian, Romanian, Serbian, or Swahili. Not all languages must be available at all schools; however, French must be offered in the parishes of Lousiana that make up Acadiana, and Spanish must be offered in any school district that is at least plurality Spanish-speaking.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: quiz-palooza: How many South African leaders can you name? on: April 17, 2014, 04:11:41 pm
8 (really 5 or 6, but apparently there was another Botha and another de Klerk). Botha, de Klerk, Mandela, Mbeki, and Zuma.
13  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Republican President/Democratic Congress? on: April 17, 2014, 03:27:41 pm
So long as I get to pick the Republican. Paulosi, anyone?
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: US States Ranked By Musical Importance on: April 16, 2014, 10:44:18 pm
Any list that doesn't have DC at #1 is crazy. #19? WTF wow.

Here's what the top 10 should be counting only good music:

Also are we going only based on artists from the state and not fests hosted there? Because if we count fests Indiana would be in the top 10.

I feel your definition of 'good music' has very little to do with 'musical importance'.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I may run for Newberry City Commission on: April 16, 2014, 04:49:19 pm
If I lived up on your end of the state (and I wish I did, as South Florida is a wasteland) I'd gladly volunteer my services. I actually do have a good deal of campaign experience.

If I weren't 3 hours away I'd do the same. If you do re-election in 2017 or 2019 and I end up at UF then I'd certainly be happy to help.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Were Rep. Steve Israel's comments about Republicans over the line? on: April 16, 2014, 03:21:45 pm
No, because it was accurate IMO.

Was it? She was asking about his Republican colleagues, then he said that and segued into talking about the Republican base.

At best, he did not answer the question that was asked. At worst, it was a very backhanded way to imply there are people in Congress who think non-whites are inferior to whites and/or do not deserve to have the same rights.

Pete Sessions comes to mind immediately. As does, potentially, Chris McDaniel. Joe Wilson, Doug Lamborn - there certainly are people in Congress who are at least a little racist.
17  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Balance of Power (Gameplay Thread) - Late 1902 on: April 16, 2014, 03:01:16 pm

We immediately appoint Matsukata Masayoshi to serve as Governor-General of the Philippines, citing his experience and the necessity to keep our other candidates (Hirobumi and Kaoru) close to the capital to serve as advisors given their particular experience in financial matters. We also do not wish want to appoint a military choice - we intend to welcome the Filipino people, and do not wish to make this appear a military occupation.

We welcome our Filipino brothers into the Empire of Japan. Though we are unwilling to grant them independence at this time, we are willing to negotiate with rebel leaders. We shall grant the people citizenship under the same laws as the home islands. We shall move to establish an elected advisory committee to the Governor-General composed of local citizens, and the people of the islands shall be eligible to serve in and vote for the Diet.

We agree with the Ottoman message of reconciliation, and graciously accept their thanks for our neutrality. We shall dispatch Yamagata Aritomo to the Ottoman Empire to observe and assist in the rebuilding of the navy alongside the American delegation, to share naval knowledge between our three great nations.

The Emperor has always paid great respect to modernization. However, given threatening naval reforms on the part of Russia, their extension of their sphere of influence into key parts of Manchuria (with farther possible aims on Korea) we must focus on the defense of the state. Expand the naval buildup.

We note the United Kingdom attempting to bring notice to the plight of the Jewish people. In particular, we note that many Jews are currently suffering ill-treatment at the hands of the Russians. In order to assist those suffering under Russian oppression, particularly given that some have claimed that the Jews are ancient cousins of the Japanese, we welcome all those Jews in Russia to immigrate to our vibrant Jewish communities in Yokohama and Nagasaki or in any other part of Japan they may wish to settle in. The Japanese government will offer temporary shelter, health care, transportation and food for the first six months of settlement (until they can establish themselves and settle in Japan) to these immigrants fleeing Russian aggression. They shall be given complete freedom of religion and at least some measure of educational autonomy should they be willing to accept our offer.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: 2004 Presidential Election: GAME THREAD on: April 15, 2014, 08:21:31 pm
John Edwards Campaign Schedule: Contesting the Incontestable


December 7
-Meet and greet in Lewes, Delaware
-Meet and greet in Kenton, Delaware
-Town hall in Dover, Delaware
-Meet and greet in Odessa, Delaware

December 8
-Meet and greet in Montchanin, Delaware
-Town hall in New Castle, Delaware
-Rally in Wilmington, Delaware


I know what many of you are thinking - I must be crazy to come here! Joe Bidenís going to win this state by a landslide. And he might. But weíre going to give it a shot. I believe my message can go up against Joe Bidenís any day of the week - and Iím here to at least give yíall a chance to hear it. Since heís made his name on foreign policy, and I too respect his achievements in that area, Iím here to lay out my foreign policy vision.

Our nation now stands at the pinnacle of its power, but it also faces serious challenges. Today, we need a national security policy for the twenty-first century that will not only respond to threats but apply all our resources to the critical goal of preventing such threats in the first place. We can be strong, secure, and good, and we can build a more hopeful future. Our national security policy should be designed to reach these goals. We must do everything in our power to reclaim the United States' historic role as a beacon for the world and become, once again, a shining example for other nations to follow.

At the dawn of a new century and on the brink of a new presidency, I believe the United States today needs to reclaim the moral high ground that defined our foreign policy for much of the last century. We must move beyond the wreckage created by one of the greatest strategic failures in U.S. history: the war in Iraq. Rather than alienating the rest of the world through assertions of infallibility and demands of obedience, as the current administration has done, U.S. foreign policy must be driven by a strategy of reengagement. This century's first test of our leadership arrived with terrible force on September 11, 2001. When the United States was attacked, the entire world stood with us. We could have pursued a broad policy of reengagement with the world, yet instead we squandered this broad support through a series of policies that drove away our friends and allies. Weíre seeing our global approval ratings plummeting. We need a new path, one that will lead to reengagement with the world and restoration of the United States' moral authority in the community of nations. As President Harry Truman once said, "No one nation alone can bring peace. Together, nations can build a strong defense against aggression and combine the energy of free men everywhere in building a better future for all.Ē



December 9
-Meet and greet in Georgetown, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings
-Meet and greet in Summerville, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings and Joseph Riley
-Town hall in Beaufort, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings

December 10
-Meet and greet in Bamberg, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings
-Meet and greet in Aiken, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings
-Meet and greet in Greenwood, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings
-Meet and greet in Abbeville, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings

December 11
-Meet and greet in Pickens, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings
-Rally in Greenville, South Carolina with Fritz Hollings


Thereís been a lot of demand recently, surrounding the issue of health care. The people want a smart, serious proposal to address the uninsured, fix the waste and inefficiency of our current system, and help lower costs, improve quality and expand coverage. It wonít be easy, and itíll require millions of you to become actively involved. But Iíve got a plan. If you donít have insurance, youíll get it, at an affordable price. If you already have insurance, youíll pay less and get more security and choices. And if you own a business, youíll find it cheaper and easier to insure your workers.

The Edwards plan will require all businesses and employers to either cover their employees or help finance their health care. I know what youíre thinking - thatís a burden on small businesses! And it would be, if not for the next two steps weíll take. Next, weíll create new tax credits, expand Medicaid, reform insurance laws, and otherwise take innovative steps - which weíll detail in a policy proposal should we get the nomination - to contain costs. Then weíll set up regional health care markets - weíll let every American share the bargaining power to purchase an affordable, high-quality plan while increasing choices among plans and cutting costs for businesses. Finally, weíll bring in an insurance mandate. In that way, we can achieve universal health care coverage, for all.


December 12
-Meet and greet in DC
-Town hall in DC
-Fundraiser in DC
-Fundraiser in DC

December 13
-Service at Asbury United Methodist Church, DC
-Meet and greet in DC
-Rally in Anacostia, DC


I believe that everyone in Americaóregardless of the family you were born into, the color of your skin or the country your family came fromóshould have an equal chance to build a better life. We still have Two Americas in this country - one favored and the other forgotten. Theyíre not defined by race, but the Two Americas does have a disproportionate impact on people of color. The hateful legacy of racism continues to be felt in every single part of American life. As someone who grew up in the segregated South, I feel a special responsibility on this issue, to build One America and make sure everyone has the same chances that America has given to me. One out of every four African-Americans lives in poverty. My plan to raise the minimum wage, expand the earned income tax credit, and strengthen labor laws will help working families build wealth and help workers get ahead, so that we can eliminate poverty within a generation.

Itís not all bad news, though. Small businesses and entrepreneurs have always given minority communities a toehold in the American economy. As President, I will expand federal contracting opportunities for minority-owned small businesses, and my plan for health care will help reduce the cost of health care for both families and small businesses. Iíve already discussed my plan to strengthen schools, but thatís especially important in a community where African-American students have only about a 50% chance of graduating from high school. We need to invest in teacher pay and training, reduce class sizes, expand preschool, and create chances for dropouts to get back on track. We can work together, to build one America. I just need your help to do it.


-Fundraiser in DC
-Late flight from DC to Nashville


Endorsements

Representative Brad Carson (D-OK)
In my service to the people of Oklahoma, Iíve always tried to help people. I saw the poverty in the Cherokee Nation, and the one Presidential candidate whoís been running an effective campaign based on the theme of helping people. John Edwards is the one candidate in the race whose main focus is on assisting the poor and uniting this country, and he has my support.


Governor Brad Henry (D-OK)
When I ran for Governor in 2002, my campaign was based on barnstorming rural areas - I was the one going to rural areas, going to Wal-Marts and stopping in and talking to folks, getting em to see that the Democratic Party is the one thatís going to help their kidsí education and get this state and this country back on track. The only candidate in the race whoís going out to small town America and really hearing their concerns is John Edwards, and he has my support.


Secretary of State Susan Savage (D-OK)
I really didnít know who I was supporting in the primary - not until John Edwards came to Oklahoma. When I heard his message of an efficient government providing real services for the needy, and when I really compared that to the other candidates - ones who arenít visiting small town Oklahoma - the choice is clear. I support John Edwards for President.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alex Sink running for Bill Young's old house seat on: April 15, 2014, 07:01:13 pm
I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

You don't need to repeat yourself, I saw what you posted before. It's certainly is a seat that is winnable for a Republican other than Bill Young, which is why it is held by a Republican right now.

I still don't see how you can take the fact a seat is held by a Republican right now and has been won by a Republican in the past and use that to say it's a Republican seat. By that logic CA-31's a Republican seat.

CA-31 went Republican because no Democrat was present in the general election, that's not that case with FL-13. FL-13 is R+2, CA-31 is D+6, that's a big difference. Democrats can win R+2 seats, but not with ease.

It's R+1. Same as FL-26, less than FL-18. This is a very winnable seat, as was demonstrated by FL Dems winning seats with similar numbers last cycle.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alex Sink running for Bill Young's old house seat on: April 15, 2014, 06:47:23 pm
I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

You don't need to repeat yourself, I saw what you posted before. It's certainly is a seat that is winnable for a Republican other than Bill Young, which is why it is held by a Republican right now.

I still don't see how you can take the fact a seat is held by a Republican right now and has been won by a Republican in the past and use that to say it's a Republican seat. By that logic CA-31's a Republican seat.
21  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Tea on: April 15, 2014, 06:35:53 pm
Iced tea is great. British tea is only good for being thrown into harbors.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alex Sink running for Bill Young's old house seat on: April 15, 2014, 06:30:37 pm
I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Statue Of A Homeless Jesus Startles A Wealthy Community on: April 15, 2014, 02:12:26 pm
Episocopalians are hardly the most liberal branch of Christianity, I should add. I would expect this more from the United Church of Christ or the Catholic Church though. If Episocopalians are just a political organization, than at least half of the Christian denominations I can think of are also political organizations.

The sculptor is a Catholic and a copy of the work (assuming Rome approves) will be installed near St. Peter's Basilica. But St. Alban's is a lovely church from what I've seen - really should have gone to a service there when I stayed in Davidson.

But TJ's right about the police in suburban areas being particularly zealous about this kind of thing. Davidson in particular is a fairly wealthy and quiet suburban community. Not a stretch at all to see the police at least responding to something like this.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your alignment? on: April 15, 2014, 01:35:34 pm
You are 38.9% Good.
You are 5.1% Lawful.
Alignment: Neutral Good
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida Megathread on: April 14, 2014, 08:35:24 pm

#givemescott.

I thought it was pretty awesome. Crist just shut CLC down, and was pretty funny while doing so.
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