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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: List of Alternate Presidents on: Today at 11:41:48 am
Teddy Kennedy-Lloyd Bentson (1981-1989)
Bob Dole (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo-Bob Kerrey (1993-2001)
John McCain-Romney (2001-2009)
Gov Mitt Romney-Paul Ryan(2009-2013)
Gov Martin OMalley-Gov Mark Warner(2013-present)
That seems about right for a scenario where either Gerald Ford defeats Jimmy Carter in 1976 or a scenario where the Iranian Revolution does not occur. One of the possible reasons why Jimmy Carter was able to defeat Ted Kennedy in the 1980 Democratic Primaries was because the Iranian Revolution and the resulting Hostage Crisis created a rally 'round the flag effect that increased his approval rating and made potential Kennedy supporters flock to him in the 1980 Democratic Primaries.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYT: Osama Bin Laden’s Bookshelf Reflects His Fixation on West on: Today at 09:23:50 am
On the bright side, at least he doesn't have Fifty Shades of Grey.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why do Republicans worship the owl? on: Today at 09:21:07 am
Lessons not learn from the Dubya Bush tax cuts of 2001.

When Grover Cleveland and Harding were president; when country were turning into economic hardship tax receipts were down. As country which ran huge deficots during 1920's and after 2001.

It was the raising of the tax bracket of the rich from 25-79 percent that helped pull us out of the Great Depression. By Hoover who changed his mind on this and FDR.


Same with Obama; he lifted taxes on riches Americans.

I excluded Coolidge and Teddy; the were for estate taxes. As new welfare programs for poor were installed during FDR administration.
According to data from http://federal-budget.insidegov.com, the U.S. was actually running budget surpluses each year from 1920 to 1930, even during the Recession of 1920-21. It really wasn't until the start of the Great Depression that the budget deficit began to increase.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Computer09 on: Today at 09:05:49 am
Massive FF. Computer 09 is one of my favorite posters on the forum.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Describe this map on: May 20, 2015, 01:11:55 pm
Joe Manchin/Martha Coaxley vs Ben Carson/Charlie Baker?
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Atlas a right wing forum? on: May 20, 2015, 08:59:17 am
Back in 2004 yes but today it is left wing
Atlas Forum was actually pretty right-wing until after the 2006 midterms. I remember seeing posts from 2005 and early 2006 that were saying that George Allen would be the Republican nominee in 2008 and defeat Hillary Clinton by a Reagan 1984-style margin. What's kind of funny is that even the forum Democrats agreed so. In addition, it also seems like there were slightly more Republican members of the forum around 2004 and 2005.

I would say that the main factors behind the shift of Atlas Forum more to the left include the defeat of the Republican Party in the 2006 midterms and the 2008 Presidential election and the changing demographics of new forum members. Beginning in the late 2000s, many new posters born between the mid 1980s to mid 1990s joined the forum that had views that were much more to the left than those of the earlier posters who were born in the 1970s and earlier part of the 1980s. I would say that the group of forum members born between the 1970s and early 1980s were more conservative because they came of age during the Reagan era and thus view conservatism in a more positive light, whereas the group of forum members born from the mid 1980s onward is more liberal is because they came of age when George W. Bush was President and thus view conservatism more negatively.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will this board react when Hillary Clinton loses in 2016? on: May 20, 2015, 06:11:07 am
Boy, this will be excruciatingly funny! I am looking forward to it! Cheesy
8  General Discussion / History / Re: Was Joseph Stalin assassinated? on: May 19, 2015, 09:24:45 pm
He certainly had a lot of enemies, and very few allies at the end. So he might have been. At any rate, he didn't die a day too early, and if he was assassinated the culprit did the peoples of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, who suffered under his brutal cruelty, a huge favour.


   
Imagine if Joseph Stalin managed to live another 9 years and was still the leader of the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why do Republicans worship the owl? on: May 19, 2015, 09:19:22 pm
Owls are cool bro. It'd be a better party animal than elephants or donkeys.

I think the Modern Whigs have the owl as their party symbol.


Presidents Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt were the Modern day Whigs.

1916 was the year that the party split came about, as WWI and neutralization stemmed the Whig movt; and the Income Tax Increase created the Torie party; which gave rise to Tea Party movement. Which name wasnt official given until 2010.

But Hughes; who still symbolized the owl, was far different than Harding and Hoover; opposition to tax increases which lead to Great Depression.
I don't see much evidence showing that opposition to tax increases on the part of Presidents Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover played a major a role in causing the Great Depression. If anything, changes in monetary policy by the Federal Reserve, lack of adequate stock market regulation, changes in international trade pattern as a result of the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act, the overextension of consumer credit, and the overproduction of consumer goods in a way that could not keep up with demand were the main causes of the Great Depression.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who WILL BE the GOP nominee for President? on: May 18, 2015, 10:53:31 am
In a ideal scenerio, John Kasich would be the best choice for the Republican nomination, as he has an excellent record as Governor of Ohio (with the exception of some controversy surrounding his handling of the collective bargaining rights of public sector Union), has arguably the most experienced out of all the prospective candidates, and has governed in a way that puts results and moderation ahead of the ideological purity that many in the Republican Party such as Ted Cruz feel is more important.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who was winning in may the year before each election since 1960 on: May 16, 2015, 03:54:29 pm
This Is what I think

May 1963- JFK in a landslide over any Republican candidate
May 1967- George Romney taking down LBJ
May 1971- Nixon barely winning reelection
May 1975- Jackson or Ford beats Ford in a landslide
May 1979- Reagan or Kennedy(Tossup) (Carter approval were in the low 30s and until the Iran hostages Kennedy was consistently polling ahead of Carter)
May 1983- Reagan in a close race over Mondale
May 1987- Hart over Bush
May 1991- Bush in a landslide against any democrat
May 1995- Dole over Clinton(Clinton's approval were low)
May 1999- Gore over Bush decisively(Clinton's approval were skyhig and GOP were low)
May 2003- Bush in a landslide against any democrat(Iraq was thought to be won)
May 2007- Hillary in a close race over Guiliani
May 2011- Obama over Romeny
May 2015- Hillary



I agree with you for the most part. I seem to remember that the consensus in 2011 was that Obama would get defeated in a landslide by Romney, as the economy was still mediocre at the time.
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: 70th Anniversary of Germany's surrender in WWII. on: May 16, 2015, 10:53:19 am
So yeah. It's been 70 years. How much longer do you think we'll have a WWII veteran around?
We will probably have at least a few World War 2 veterans around until the 2030s or early 2040s.
13  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US Gives Blessing to pan-Arab 'Rapid-Reaction' Military Force on: May 16, 2015, 10:51:12 am
Iran is not going to be happy with this development, as a coalition of primary Sunni Muslim countries supported by the U.S. could potentially threaten Iran's goal of gaining more influence in the Middle East.

Iran won't be happy, because the primasry goal of this force will be to tyrannise and keep down Shia population living under Sunni regimes.
That is kind of what I was alluding to in my post. Religious differences between Sunni and Shia Muslims are one of the major factors behind much of the conflict in the Middle East. U.S. policy in the region has only served to make the tensions between both groups much worse.
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US Gives Blessing to pan-Arab 'Rapid-Reaction' Military Force on: May 16, 2015, 09:56:27 am
Iran is not going to be happy with this development, as a coalition of primary Sunni Muslim countries supported by the U.S. could potentially threaten Iran's goal of gaining more influence in the Middle East.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: John Bolton for Secretary of State? on: May 14, 2015, 02:46:36 pm
I think that Robert Zolleck would be the most likely Secretary of State choice if the Republicans win in 2016.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ceiling for Republicans and Democrats on: May 14, 2015, 02:44:41 pm
Republicans



I did not set percantage in each state so forget it

Kasich 338
Sanders 200


Democrats


Hilary 374
Cruz 174
I agree for the most part, though I also feel that New Mexico, Minnesota, and Maine statewide could be in play for the Republicans in a Kasich vs Sanders election. In the Democratic map, Hillary Clinton could potentially make Arkansas, Missouri, Indiana, and Montana closer than in 2012, but ultimately Ted Cruz would still carry all four states without breaking too much of a sweat.
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the phrase "Taxation is theft"? on: May 14, 2015, 02:37:39 pm
So how do these people expect to pay for roads, schools, military installations, food safety, etc... All paid for by taxes, all wouldn't exist with taxation.


18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Which presidential candidate of the opposition party would you make president? on: May 13, 2015, 12:30:54 pm
Out of the Republican candidates that lost, I would not have minded having Charles Evans Hughes, Wendell Willkie, Thomas Dewey, Richard Nixon (1960), Gerald Ford (Full Term), George H.W. Bush (Second Term), Bob Dole, and John McCain as President. With regards to the Democratic candidates who lost, I would not have minded having James Cox, Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern, and Jimmy Carter (Second Term) as a President.

The only Independent candidates I would have liked having as President would have been Theodore Roosevelt (1912), John Anderson (1980), and Ross Perot (1992). I doubt I would have ever supported George Wallace due to his staunch support for segregation and don't know that much about Robert LaFollette's 1924 platform to make a decision whether I would have supported him over Calvin Coolidge or not.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: 5 Most Anti Incumbent Elections since 1900 on: May 13, 2015, 12:21:17 pm
1920, 1932, and 1980 were arguably the most anti-incumbent U.S. Presidential elections ever.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Joe Republic Bureau of Funny Post Archival on: May 13, 2015, 09:07:24 am
He will just campaign in jail. Already Sabato has a predicted map
As you can see the swing vote of Officer Pruski, and Officer Anderson may make the difference. As Ness and Lockpick O'Leary are staunch non-cigarette tax voters. And of course Gibson O'Leary with his hardcore progressive ideals with his own rattled political dynasty. The Incarcerated Black and Latino vote have already expressed support for the Democrats, it is an uphill battle for Christie in Newgate Prison 2016.
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the results of the 2000 US presidential election on: May 12, 2015, 07:24:20 am
FR, even though I despise Bush. However, it still angers me that Bush ran a bad campaign in the end. If he had done a better job, he might have won IA, OR, WI, NM and maybe even MN and PA. It would have been a landslide and quite funny to see Gore (muh centrist) losing the Dukakis states.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: RIP Jim Wright on: May 09, 2015, 09:32:51 am
He was the other liberal lion in TX; aside from Lyndon B Johnson.
What about Sam Rayburn, Ralph Yarborough, and Ann Richards?
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: President Ted Cruz - on: May 08, 2015, 09:15:38 am
I might be interested in doing a timeline on Ted Cruz winning in 2016 and getting reelected in 2020, but I likely won't have the time to start on it for another week or two.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Why did Jimmy Carter win New York State in the 1976 Presidential Election? on: May 07, 2015, 09:21:19 am
NYC was a very different place in the 1970s. There was population loss, rampant crime, deteriorating infrastructure, a seedy element and they were in terrible financial trouble.

Lindsey liberalism run amok
John Lindsey was a pretty mediocre and ineffective mayor.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Carson is in on: May 05, 2015, 06:23:30 pm
Carson's got my ironic support.
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