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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Women Presidential Candidates (Jungle Primary) on: December 09, 2016, 09:41:15 pm
enuff wif the eyedentity politikz tho
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: WA-05 Special Election Who Runs??? on: December 09, 2016, 09:38:14 pm
Ben Stuckart is in (Spokane City Council President, Democrat)
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread on: December 09, 2016, 08:50:18 pm
There's a candidate already starting a campaign for the 2018 gov race here. He has some good ideas, including a high speed rail that would connect from Chicago through WI to the Twin Cities.

Anyone heard of him before?
http://bobharlow.net

perennial candidate - he ran in CA-18 (no, really) and got dead last.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Who could serve as caretaker president with bipartisan support? on: December 09, 2016, 08:47:40 pm
Joe Biden
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Post random maps here on: December 09, 2016, 08:45:42 pm
2020 Presidential Election - The TRUMPslide
On the outset, the first President Trump term didn't go very well - allegations of cronyism, widespread corruption, and incompetence flung from every corner, and several people close to the administration were hauled off to jail. The economy fell into stagnation and the world place became unruly. Nevertheless, Trump had an audience that clung on to, enough to warrant mid 30% approval ratings. But Democrats were so bitterly divided on the prospect of who to face him, that it was utter chaos. Andrew Cuomo had enough resources to pocked a solid 24-25% of the vote, just below the first place challenger, Elizabeth Warren, and enough support from super delegates to just barely cling to the nomination after a few ballots. Out-raged, liberals booed most of the convention, and Tom Steyer ran on a closer to a socialist platform, with him picking Jayapal to be his VP. Candidates this year faced un precedent unpopularity, with many Americans chiming for the days of 2016 (no, really). Trump, concerned with a potential loss even with the liberal divide, ordered administration officials to flood the economy with development projects, boosting his approvals to mid 40s, enough to squash the challenge to him.



President Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN) - 46.9%, 356 EV's
Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - 40.4%, 182 EV's
Businessman Tom Steyer (I-CA)/Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal (I-WA) - 10.5%, 0 EV's
Others - 2.2%, 0 EV's
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Transition Team/Cabinet Thread on: December 09, 2016, 05:54:06 pm
I'm still thinking Corker, but Tillerson's stock is rising rapidly.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Gary Johnson on: December 09, 2016, 05:52:42 pm
Young whites, split between Sanderistas and Young Republicans. Definitely skew male.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: So, What Do You Think The Soon-To-Be Ex-Senators Will Be Doing? on: December 09, 2016, 05:32:21 pm
All of them will be lobbying soon enough.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Issues where Atlas would be surprised by your stance on: December 09, 2016, 05:18:16 pm
I think there's merit to 'school choice' in some actually-existing situations, although I think the ideal still needs to be a robust, well-funded, powerful public education system.

also this. Some of those charter schools offer the kind of results that we should be looking for.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: I'm switching to the GOP. on: December 09, 2016, 05:03:47 pm
Farewell! The Democrats will be far better off without the worlds sweatiest weather vane.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Issues where Atlas would be surprised by your stance on: December 09, 2016, 05:02:34 pm
I am not overly bothered by fracking, as long as it becomes properly regulated. It is a great bridge to the renewable energy future, which if you just look at the plummeting costs for solar isn't that far off. Also the natural gas revolution is killing coal, which environmentally far outweighs some of the challenges presented in fracking.

this.

I'm not really bothered by Voter ID laws if it is done in conjunction with mass availability and just about every voter reform that Democrats propose.  I'm fairly pro free-trade, recognize the limits of increased taxation, and think that illegal immigration is a problem we need to deal with (albeit I want to fight it waaaaay differently than conservatives want to fight it).
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: LA-University of New Orleans: Campbell = wiped out, trails by 29 points on: December 09, 2016, 03:54:49 pm
B-b-but I thought Democrats could clearly have won this race and lose because they don't target states like Louisiana!?

well i mean Republicans were the only ones who took this seriously. I mean they're flying out god damn Donald Trump and Mike Pence and spending millions here while Campbelll is left fighting for himself. And when Kennedy wins by an out-sized margin that even the pundits didn't expect, Trump and Co. will flail this as a god damn victory for the administration.

There wasn't a chance of winning this, there was a chance to at least FIGHT for once.

Quitely literally this is the inversion of the 50 state strategy - we're gonna lose EVERYWHERE.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Maxwell for Northern Assembly on: December 09, 2016, 03:51:11 pm
Quote from:  link=topic=254326.msg5427246#msg5427246 date=1481314305
stance on abolishing the regions?

I'm for it. For all of the benefits that the regions have offered like regional wackiness and shows of pride (which, regretfully, I tried to strip from two different regions during my time as a real politico in the name of very temporary gains in regional activity), the negatives seem to out-weigh them. There have been some benefits of the recent regional trimming, but I think it also revealed a real culprit in the stagnation - the regional system itself.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Maxwell for Northern Assembly on: December 09, 2016, 03:02:22 pm
Member of the Vermont Communist Party remembers his candidacy for Northern Assembly, more formally announces


I thought I had given it all up. I wrapped up my career as an influential politico as a leader of the right-wing. Then I ran a few joke campaigns, some toxic, some less toxic. Then I was in the woods. I fought a bear. I got a couple of scratches, but otherwise I'm fine. I read up on the social ills of society. I found out there was an election. I forgot to announce my candidacy. Now we're here - The North is falling apart, thanks to the current capitalist order in Atlasia. My pledge? To change things. The North needs leadership in the Assembly. I will try to lead again. This time, as a leader of a new party that will re-invent left-wing politics in the North.

My goals in the Assembly are simple - abolish the sales tax, a scourage of the poor, end for profit schools and prisons, and a push for the workers of the North to have a seat at the table against the executives. I will not be pro-business. I will only be pro-people.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio challenge President Trump in 2020? on: December 09, 2016, 02:09:24 pm
Former Senator Jeff Flake perhaps?
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: 2018 Florida Gubernatorial election : Huckabee vs Graham on: December 09, 2016, 01:28:30 pm
Huckabee is no longer a good candidate for anything - but not because of carpetbagging. For one thing, I doubt Floridians care about carpetbagging, considering nearly everyone who lives in Florida is a carpetbagger.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OH-2018: Megathread on: December 09, 2016, 01:20:15 pm
I can see two different scenarios for the Ohio Gubernatorial race

1. DeWine and Husted battle it out, and their attacks to eachother get so nasty that a third candidate (either Taylor or Renacci at this point) rises in the polls and gets the nomination.

2. DeWine and Husted battle it out, but are so dominant that it forces the lower tier candidates (again, Taylor and Renacci) to run for something else. I suspect this is where Mandel's primary challenge in the Senate arises.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northern Voting Booth: December 2016 Regional Election on: December 09, 2016, 01:07:04 pm
Senate:
[1] Scott
[2] WI: Maxwell

Assembly:
[1] Maxwell
[2] evergreen
[3] R2D2
[4] JGibson
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: December 2016 House Election on: December 09, 2016, 01:05:49 pm
[1] Siren
[2] NeverAgain
[3] Peebs
[4] Cashew
[5] Wolfentoad
[6] Southern Gothic
[7] tedbessell
[8] Goldwater
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: 2018 Florida Gubernatorial election : Huckabee vs Graham on: December 08, 2016, 03:10:04 pm
Huckabee would lose to Graham.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: 2017/2018 Gubernational elections: Who is running megathread on: December 08, 2016, 01:21:40 pm
Florida Dems gonna Florida Dem?

Politics1.com ‏@Politics1com  4m4 minutes ago
FLORIDA: Outgoing Cong Patrick Murphy (D), who lost US Sen run, says he wants "to keep all options on the table" about poss 2018 Gov run.

Murphy didn't run a good statewide campaign, he shouldn't run for governor. If he wants back in politics, though, he should run for his house seat again. He seems pretty popular in his district, and a republican just won his seat. He could beat Mast, especially if the midterm is rough for Trump and Republicans.

Either that or one of the lower statewide offices - Maybe CFO or Agriculture Comissioner.

And to answer the question asked if he won his own district - no, he did not. He did worse than Clinton in both of the notable counties in the district, and Clinton only barely out-performed Perkins.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Your completely subjective odds for the Democratic nomination in 2020 on: December 07, 2016, 09:13:41 pm
Castro probably needs a real job before running for President.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should I run for Keith Ellison's seat if he resigns? on: December 07, 2016, 08:35:02 pm
ndorsed!
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: December 07, 2016, 08:28:59 pm
"Donald Trump hates Black People"

Cuomo is a classical liberal centrist. The party better get with the program. Cuomo isn't Zell Miller for God's sake. Cuomo is the nominee, he likely beats Trump. He is an Italian. He's feisty. Trump will meet his match. Period.

are all italians feisty you god damn racist

Cuomo isn't a centrist, he's a whatever will keep him in power - taking lefty stands to keep the base placated, in the background making sure that Republicans control the State Senate so that nothing ever actually gets done.  He's kind of just an asshole.

Most Italians are feisty, I live around them. When you drive, they say you drive fast, because it is slowing up the road.

Who in your opinion is a true centrist in the Democratic Party?

bronz just god damn swatted me out of the park with that one. He's right. I'm Italian, I drive fast, so thus I'm feisty. Damn he's good.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Your completely subjective odds for the Democratic nomination in 2020 on: December 07, 2016, 08:15:28 pm
"Donald Trump hates Black People"

Cuomo is a classical liberal centrist. The party better get with the program. Cuomo isn't Zell Miller for God's sake. Cuomo is the nominee, he likely beats Trump. He is an Italian. He's feisty. Trump will meet his match. Period.

are all italians feisty you god damn racist

Cuomo isn't a centrist, he's a whatever will keep him in power - taking lefty stands to keep the base placated, in the background making sure that Republicans control the State Senate so that nothing ever actually gets done.  He's kind of just an asshole.
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