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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Flynn says he's going to "spill the beans" on Trump's Russian connections to FBI on: March 25, 2017, 06:14:19 pm
this is being criticized as click bait.

That being said, I would not be surprised if he did - Flynn is a worm and a snake.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Trump ragequitting his party's Health Care plans on: March 25, 2017, 06:11:58 pm
he probably should've done that before meeting with the freedom caucus multiple times to get it passed.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Tom Perriello vs. Ralph Northam on: March 25, 2017, 06:10:30 pm
Never Mellow with Perriello!
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / 2008 - A Democrat Trump? on: March 25, 2017, 05:35:42 pm
Obama and Clinton not to enter the 2008 field, Kerry riding high in the polls



June 2007 RCP Average
18.3% Kerry
12.2% Edwards
9.4% Bayh
8.2% Warner
6.2% Richardson
4.1% Biden
3.4% Vilsack
3.2% Kucinich
2.1% Dodd
0.8% Gravel

Recent announcements by Democratic heavyweights Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have sent shock waves through the 2008 Democratic field. Both candidates announced within the last few weeks that they would not run for President of the United States. Obama, eyeing the Illinois Governorship in 2010, is someone that has been public about ambition, but has denied that that interest is toward the Presidency right away in 2008, with most saying he is looking towards 2016 or even 2020 after a few years as Illinois' governor. Clinton had looked at the option of running for President but concluded that she was better served fighting for her constituents in New York.

This leaves us with a Democratic field that most would sum up as heavy in numbers but light in talent. Former Nominee John Kerry made a recent jump into the race, having already taken a lead in the polls and a large cash advantage. Running behind him are John Edwards and Evan Bayh, Edwards being Kerry's ex-running mate and showing little deference to Kerry, and Bayh the Indiana moderate who is showing Democrats how to win in a Bush environment that Kerry was not successful in dislodging in 2004. Another middle tier candidate is another moderate - Mark Warner of Virginia.

Many are looking at this field and wondering how can Democrats get less enthusiastic for 2008. Is there anybody who could shake this field up?

On July 13th, 2007, one last potential candidate let know that he could fill the vacuum.



Interviewer: "He's the president of the United States!"

Sharpton: "He's a war criminal! And any responsible congress would've impeached this President and locked him up already.

The clip went viral with many Democrats criticizing Sharpton's remarks. This is after Sharpton's appearance on Meet the Press, where he began to speculate running for President. This clip gave Sharpton the perfect springboard to announce his candidacy...
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2018 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: VA Senate: Kaine Has 12-point Lead Over Comstock, Fiorina on: March 25, 2017, 04:08:34 pm
Insane in the membrane


INSANE IN THE KAINE

6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Heitkamp praises Trump and says "He's like me!" on: March 25, 2017, 03:30:10 pm
ffs

FTR this is what the Senate map looked like when Bush cracked 60% in 2004:



2006:



Heitkamp is just a cuck.

yes because this is exactly like 10-12 years ago Roll Eyes
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Heitkamp praises Trump and says "He's like me!" on: March 25, 2017, 02:02:30 pm
My biggest worry with Heitkamp is the Native American vote. Crucial to Democratic victories in the state, and Hillary collapsed among Native Americans nationwide. I don't think they voted for Trump, but either undervoted or voted Green, due to the perception that Hillary did not care about them (Struggle to remember if Hillary mentioned opposing Keystone even once).

Heitkamp needs to walk a fine line between pleasing Native American voters, and also white voter said who support things like Keystone. I'm not sure it's a possible task. Bending towards one will annoy the other side.

this is why I think Heitkamp is the most at risk Democrat.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Heitkamp praises Trump and says "He's like me!" on: March 25, 2017, 01:49:51 pm
Hillary literally got mid 20% in this state. I'll still smash Heitkamp when she votes to frack her own backyard or whatever but this is just a sad bit of cuckholdry.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Impact of AHCA on 2018 midterms? on: March 25, 2017, 01:48:35 pm
just like Hillarycare meant nothing for Republicans in the 1994 midterms...

oh wait
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 10:55:10 pm
hold on i thought his political insticts were grade A! That's what I was told!
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 09:56:01 pm
All of those people were already voting for the bill.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6? Can Democrat Jon Ossoff win in the special election? on: March 23, 2017, 08:46:07 pm
people here still whining about Pelosi? change Democrat leaders, guess what you'd get?

SO AND SO IS A RUBBER STAMP FOR CHUCK SCHUMER

just idiocy. this is still a Republican district no matter what they're going to dislike Democrat leadership.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - March 2006 General Election on: March 23, 2017, 08:41:32 pm
ahaha so Tories are bleeding purely euroskeptic votes to New Deal? this is very humorous, considering who the current leader of the Tories is.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 07:01:03 pm

yes. when more and more GOPers are walking away from this bill. great negotiation!
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 05:26:09 pm
but there's no solution that unites the GOP caucus. A stable enough amount of members want the medicaid expansion to continue, while an equally stable number want to end the medicaid expansion. The Republican moderates and the Freedom Caucus don't have points of agreement.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 04:52:22 pm
Trump has literally been meeting with congresscritters to get them to vote for this! he owns it!
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Impact of AHCA on 2018 midterms? on: March 23, 2017, 03:19:54 pm
2018 won't be another 2010, that's all I'm going to say.

it doesn't need to be a 2010 for Republicans to lose the House, that's all i'm going to say.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Grade your Political leaders 2017 edition on: March 23, 2017, 03:13:23 pm
Schumer has a higher grade than Trump? you're an interesting guy, Santander.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 03:04:09 pm
Thomas Massie kind of just tears this bill apart
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Eternal Sunshine of the Democratic Mind on: March 23, 2017, 02:44:06 pm
god i hope it's Ann Veal from Arrested Development.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 02:40:21 pm
TBT to literally two hours ago:

"Nothing leads me to believe that that's the case."
-Sean Spicer, on whether the vote will be postponed

Sean Spicer swallows gum. Nuff said. No reason to listen to him.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 23, 2017, 02:17:40 pm
Amodei being opposed makes me think this is really going to fail - I wouldn't characterize Amodei as a particularly conservative or moderate house member. He's right in the center of the GOP ideological spectrum.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: List of Alternate Presidents on: March 23, 2017, 12:27:45 pm
26. Teddy Roosevelt (Republican-NY) - 1901-1909
27. William Taft (Republican-OH) - 1909-1913
28. Teddy Roosevelt (Bull Moose-NY) - 1913-1919
29. Hiram Johnson (Bull Moose-CA) - 1919-1921
30. Thomas Marshall (Democrat-IN) - 1921-1925
31. Cordell Hull (Democrat-TN) - 1925-1929
32. William McAdoo (Democrat-CA) - 1929-1933
33. Frank Lowden (Bull Moose-IL) - 1933-1937
34. Huey Long (Share Our Wealth-LA) - 1937-1938
35. Burton Wheeler (Share Our Wealth-MT) - 1938-1941
36. Fiorello La Guardia (Bull Moose-NY) - 1941-1947
37. Earl Warren (Bull Moose-CA) - 1947-1961
38. Hubert Humphrey (Share Our Wealth-MN) - 1961-1965
39. Nelson Rockefeller (Bull Moose-NY) - 1965-1969
40. George Meany (Share Our Wealth-NY) - 1969-1977
41. Richard Schweiker (Bull Moose-PA) - 1977-1981
42. James P. Hoffa (Share Our Wealth-MI) - 1981-1989
43. Albert Brewer (Share Our Wealth-AL) - 1989-1993
44. Lamar Alexander (Bull Moose-TN) - 1993-2001
45. Paul Wellstone (Share Our Wealth-MN) - 2001-2004
46. Martha Stanley (Share Our Wealth-NC) - 2004-2009
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Have you cut off ties to friends/family members who normalize Trump? on: March 23, 2017, 11:30:09 am
nope.

1. I wouldn't do such a thing because it's stupid and I want to hear other perspectives because most people who ended up voting for Trump aren't bad people and it improves my ability to come up with arguments in case we do argue about it.

2. can't really ice out my dad, am i right?
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Neil Gorsuch Confirmation Hearing *DISCUSSION AND LIVE COMMENTARY* on: March 23, 2017, 11:24:51 am
rofl lmao i miss john boehner
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