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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: who would you vote for in each hypothetical french runoff on: April 25, 2017, 11:54:30 pm
Even if forced to choose, I would not have chosen between Le Pen and Fillon.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Process / Re: Once again, NE GOP Tries to Change Electoral System on: April 25, 2017, 10:59:10 pm
call me when there's a real push to get rid of the electoral college.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: AL-SEN: Ivey calls special election for December 12th on: April 25, 2017, 09:35:14 pm
Interesting - though I'm not sure I'd categorize Byrne as a new face (didn't he also run in 2010 as the sort of establishment candidate?)
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kamala Harris vs Tuisi Gabbard on: April 25, 2017, 09:13:09 pm
poor Assad Sad
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Harvard Public Opinion Project: A Lost Generation for the GOP? on: April 25, 2017, 09:11:22 pm
"abandoning social conservatism" that's a riot. Trump basically has embraced very single plank of the religious right's platform. He's even given up the facade of being relatively pro-trans.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of Federal Elections on: April 25, 2017, 08:51:28 pm
I'm pretty disgusted that we have Congressman Santander and he won in the first round.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: April 25, 2017, 08:46:23 pm
Maxwell
Mazkadist League
Vermont
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A Funny Thing Happened On the Way to the June 2013 Presidential Election on: April 25, 2017, 08:39:26 pm
It's been one long decline from here Tongue
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: President dfwlibertylover/ Vice President Goldwater for Re-election! on: April 25, 2017, 08:35:02 pm
is the election season here already?
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: French Presidential Election 2017, Run-Off on: April 25, 2017, 08:28:10 pm
calling Le Pen "principled" is pretty idiotic, considering she's literally evicted her father from the party and then left the party all in the name of winning an election.

It's genuinely shocking to see someone who saw what happened in the United States, opposes what happened, and then think "wow okay we only need someone who can deliver this ideology more competently and honestly!"
She didn't leave the party.  She just resigned as leader.

she is attempting the same symbolic gesture - trying to cleanse herself of the negative influence of her father, of her party.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: AL-SEN: Ivey calls special election for December 12th on: April 25, 2017, 08:26:01 pm
you're from this region, but I find it really doubtful that Kay Ivey would be scared by Roy Moore, and that may even get more established GOPers to pony up for her campaign.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: 2017/2018 Gubernational elections: Who is running megathread on: April 25, 2017, 08:16:26 pm
Biggest news though: Tommy Tuberville will NOT run for Governor of Alabama, a sign of increasing coalescing around Governor Kay Ivey. I'm beginning she'll get some novelty challenge in the primary and then sail through the general election in a bigger landslide than either time Bentley ran. Not exactly a good sign for downballot Alabama Dems, but then again, has anything good ever happened to downballot Alabama Dems in the last twenty or thirty years?
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: 2017/2018 Gubernational elections: Who is running megathread on: April 25, 2017, 07:49:16 pm
And Gary Richardson, the Independent Candidate for Oklahoma Governor in 2002, multiple time congressional candidate, and general fake populist, has entered the race for Oklahoma Governor 16 years after his first bout. Richardson his first time on a platform of infrastructure improvements and more prisons, and I suspect his platform will be of similar right of center populism. This will probably contrast nicely with the generic GOP platitudes of Todd Lamb or muh constitutional conservatism of Bridenstine.

Richardson is a money pit, but he probably won't win - the GOP establishment will do their best to halt his nomination because I suspect he owes no loyalties to Governor Fallin and will probably bash her failed record, and they're pretty good at getting who they want. Still, I'm getting my popcorn out because this GOP primary is going to be a bloodbath.
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: French Presidential Election 2017, Run-Off on: April 25, 2017, 07:30:19 pm
calling Le Pen "principled" is pretty idiotic, considering she's literally evicted her father from the party and then left the party all in the name of winning an election.

It's genuinely shocking to see someone who saw what happened in the United States, opposes what happened, and then think "wow okay we only need someone who can deliver this ideology more competently and honestly!"
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: France 2017: Results Thread on: April 25, 2017, 05:55:51 pm
One debate on May, 3.

Prime-time interview of Le Pen tonight on TF1, Macron on Thursday.

Mélenchon has launched a consultation online today, asking his supporters what they intend to do between abstention/blank vote/vote Macron.
The result will be released on May, 2.

Mélenchon himself will speak on his Youtube channel tomorrow or Thursday.

wow what conviction.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your ideal semi-realistic leaders/members of government in countries on: April 25, 2017, 04:02:12 pm
US: Elizabeth Warren
UK: Ed Miliband <3 <3 <3
France: Benoit Hamon
Canada: Jagmeet Singh
Brazil: uhhhh Lula for lack of better options
Australia: Bill Shorten
Netherlands: Jesse Klaver
Italy: eh, Matteo Renzi?
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite British PM in your lifetime on: April 25, 2017, 03:51:58 pm
Ugh, Cameron I suppose. It reminds me of how both the Conservatives in the UK and the Republicans in the US have amazing politicians but always end up choosing the worst of them as leaders.
Cameron is probably the best Conservative Leader since Edward Heath, excepting maybe Hague.

wait you think Heath was a good leader of the Tories?

Not to presume, but I think "good leader" in this case means "having politics like my own". I.E. like me saying Foot was the best Labour leader of the last 40 years.

Heath was a kid toucher though.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite British PM in your lifetime on: April 25, 2017, 03:45:03 pm
Ugh, Cameron I suppose. It reminds me of how both the Conservatives in the UK and the Republicans in the US have amazing politicians but always end up choosing the worst of them as leaders.
Cameron is probably the best Conservative Leader since Edward Heath, excepting maybe Hague.

wait you think Heath was a good leader of the Tories?
19  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Kendrick Lamar on: April 25, 2017, 01:58:00 pm
oh god this thread is not going to end well.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite British PM in your lifetime on: April 25, 2017, 01:51:37 pm
Brown is the only one I can somewhat stand.

If I had to rank

1. Brown - much better post-leadership than during his leadership.
2. Blair - yuck, but domestically (so to speak) he wasn't that bad.
3. Major - eh - better an aimless tory than a determined tory.
4. May - ew gross
5. Cameron - a disaster at every level, hilariously unraveled by his own arrogance.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: 2017/2018 Gubernational elections: Who is running megathread on: April 25, 2017, 02:41:52 am
Democrat Scott Inman is the second candidate to announce a run for Oklahoma governor.

http://newsok.com/article/5546222

The first real Democratic candidate for Governor (the current field includes Connie Johnson, a failed gadfly).

I'm not sure if Inman can win, but Fallin under-performed in 2014 (and at certain points her opponent, State Rep Joe Dorman who is now making that pot money, was within single digits) and the economic and the trust situation in this state has only gotten worse. I think Inman has a non-zero chance of winning the Governorship.

It will help that the Republican field already looks like a bloodbath - candidates range from Congressman Jim Bridenstine (far right military veteran + will get most of the "muh conservative" support ala Club for Growth and Red State type institutions), Lieutenant Governor Todd Lamb (establishment choice), Ken Miller (slightly less charismatic establishment choice), and Gary Richardson (ex-Indie candidate who ran on "Roads, Bridges, and Prisons" and is very pro-Trump + is a money pit). And this excludes a potential surprise comeback from the Oklahoma politicos who always are speculated to run again for stuff (J.C. Watts, T.W. Shannon). Todd Lamb and Ken Miller are both as dull as a stack of blank pieces of paper, so if I had to guess, Bridenstine has the highest candidate quality and probably wins the primary - though Richardson could make things SPICEY sean style.

Wait...Bridenstine is the highest quality Republican candidate?  I'm not saying you're wrong, but that almost sounds like a "well he's the least bad" situation because Bridenstine's certainly no A-lister.  I'm glad Inman's running for Governor rather than AG because he always struck me as one of the better potential Democratic candidates (admittedly a low bar) and while he probably won't do it, I'd rather Drew Edmondson run for AG than Governor.

Bridenstine is more impressive than he looks - he faced a multi-million dollar primary campaign in 2016 and won with over 80% of the vote. He is on Trumps good side and he's on the good side of conservative activists - He's done a very good job of balancing the changes in the right ideologically. Also, some kind of military experience is always good here.

Certainly compared to Todd Lamb, who is a football guy and then went immediately into politics. Lamb will be hit hard with MUH CAREER POLITICIAN ADS, while Bridenstine gets to run as CONSISTENT CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVE. (Bridenstine would certainly suck the air out of the room for a potential TW Shannon run or some other archconservative)

Huh.  Well at least Inman seems like a solid recruit.

There is no perfect Democrat candidate that hasn't already served two terms for Governor (Brad Henry) or sadly got beat for State Senate last year (John Waldron, a teacher and genuinely great guy), but Inman is solid and Oklahoma is becoming like a mini-Kansas situation where people are getting incredibly upset over their handling of the budget.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Trump pushing up to 1,000 Democrats to run for Congress on: April 25, 2017, 02:39:37 am
Just because a candidate's totally new and out of left field doesn't mean they'd be a bad candidate.
Example 1: James Thompson
Example 2: Rob Quist
Example 3: Jon Ossoff

If anything, this would help us nominate real people instead of hacks.

amen brother. Nominating hacks is what got us Ted Strickland 4 Senate 2016.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: CO-Gov on: April 24, 2017, 08:31:50 pm
Polis is an embarrassing rich guy who has under-performed every race he's run in. Pass.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: RI-GOV 2018: Lincoln Chafee considering a comeback on: April 24, 2017, 08:31:07 pm
I feel bad for Rhode Island. They really do have some turdtacular politicians.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2017 & Odd Year Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: VA-PPP: Northam leads in the primary on: April 24, 2017, 06:07:22 pm
FDR also vigorously primaried (or at least attempted to) conservative Democrats who opposed his agenda.
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