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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Jeff Flake in Trouble on: January 15, 2017, 07:32:33 pm
The fundraising numbers seems to imply that he might retire.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Calls NATO Obsolete and Dismisses EU in German Interview on: January 15, 2017, 06:30:38 pm
"non-existent Russia threat"

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Saturday Night Live (not funny) on: January 15, 2017, 06:13:20 pm
he's right about SNL. Even the Bill Murray era was horribly overrated. Even Mad TV was better.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CO-Senate 2020: Alexa Wesner (D) as a likely opponent for Sen. Gardner (R) ? on: January 15, 2017, 06:11:07 pm
On paper she seems like a decent enough candidate, but I don't know nearly enough about her to know for sure. Have there been any other Senators elected with ambassadorships as their main experience?

And yeah, first-term Senators in swing states are not "entrenched." Gardner is very vulnerable as long as Democrats run someone better than Udall.

This is how I feel - this person seems like a decent candidate on paper, if she runs we'll see how she does in reality.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: A New America - 2016 General Election on: January 15, 2017, 05:47:52 pm
wow close race folks!

I'll give a run down of the Gubernatorial races once I finish up with cookies..
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ted Cruz will be the 46th President of the United States on: January 15, 2017, 05:45:20 pm
yikes rip america
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NJ-SEN 2018: Could Bob Menendez lose reelection? on: January 15, 2017, 05:11:30 pm
I'll go out on a limb and say Menendez is fine. With the NJ GOP in as bad a shape as it is, he is safe.
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Newark mayoral election, 2002 on: January 15, 2017, 03:24:16 pm
meh, Booker is still the better of these two options. Sharpe James is pretty much garbage.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama: No more free rides for Cubans on: January 15, 2017, 01:49:47 pm
I also don't see this as all together that shocking - it's the next logical step after ending the embargo.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Zinke is Int Sec, state Sens. Buttrey, Sales, running in special election on: January 15, 2017, 01:17:03 pm
so we only get to judge "very serious" politicians if we get elected anywhere? then what the  is this forum for?

Quite literally this forum would only be Muon talking in a vaccum if that were the case.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama: No more free rides for Cubans on: January 15, 2017, 12:45:02 pm
I actually agree with this - Either make everyone play by the rules that Cuban immigrants play by or make the Cubans play by everyone elses rules. This isn't the 60s - we're not in an engagement with Cuba anymore.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Could Paul Ryan be in trouble in 2018 if there is a backlash? on: January 15, 2017, 11:53:55 am
reminder - Ryan only won by 10 in 2012, a year I'd consider a wave on the Senate level but not on the House level. I think if Democrats bothered some real recruitment in this district I think knocking off Ryan is possible in a wave year.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Democrats: Jimmy Dore 2020? on: January 14, 2017, 11:45:51 pm
It would be interesting for Democrats to go with the Beppo Grillo model - nominating a not knowledgeable, not funny comedian who is almost purposefully destructive to everything in his pathway.
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: A New America - 2016 General Election on: January 14, 2017, 10:17:36 pm
Accidental vote for Jones. I meant to vote for Feingold.

I'll note this for the record.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / A New America - 2016 General Election on: January 14, 2017, 10:04:57 pm
A New America - 2016 General Election

The primary season was a bitter fight on the Republican side - tons of candidates from different walks of life. The candidate who came out on top may be among the most divisive and yet interesting - Senator Walter Jones Jr.. Jones is not a life-long Republican, and in fact switched parties before running for Senate. He was a conservative Democrat, and despite switching parties has maintained some of his Democrat ideals. Jones is anti-war, anti-military spending, and wants to do an audit of the Pentagon. Jones is also anti-trade, and was the only GOP candidate to pledge to "tear up the deals". Jones is fiscally conservative and a deficit hawk, but wants to keep certain programs in place like Medicare and Social Security. Still, he proposes a massive tax cut deal to counteract the Feingold Tax Increases, and wants to repeal FEINCARE, which he says will "balloon the deficit". His running mate is none other than ex-primary rival Governor David Dewhurst, a move to shore up traditional conservatives. Dewhurst disagrees with Jones on a variety of issues, but stands with him on the need for "supply side growth, a sane healthcare system, and ending the debt NOW!"

President Feingold is running on the progress he's made dealing with these problems - reducing unemployment from 11% to 7%, pushing forward a comprehensive healthcare package that includes a public option, and lowering the wage gap between men and women. Feingold pledges to fight further - through another round of trade re-negotiations, pushing through a full campaign finance reform package, and reversing the negative trends of income inequality. Feingold's stimulus plan put forward infrastructure spending, schools spending, and tax credits, and Feingold plans a more comprehensive solution for the infrastructure problems we have by hiking the gas tax, and putting more dollars toward grants for state investment in schools. Feingold also has warned the states to do the job of regulating charter schools or "I will". Feingold has faced tons of protests from charter school advocates. He retains Vice President Josh Penny, who has been a limited assist on the campaign trail due to his health issues. Despite that Penny plans to remain on the ticket.

You have 3 days to pick either of these men to be President of the United States.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: A New America - 2016 Primaries (Please READ before voting) on: January 14, 2017, 09:50:27 pm
2016 Republican Primaries

The main event of primary season, the Republicans faced an on edge primary season that ended in no way the way pundits anticipated. The initial polls of the race showed Bob Beauprez leading ahead by a wide margin, with David Dewhurst as the up and comer and Mick Cornett as the wild card. Mark Cuban's late entry in the race would throw this off, and Cuban would usurp Dewhurst as the frontrunner. Cuban lead every poll before the first Caucus of Iowa, but Cuban had poor organization in early states, touting his appeal in urban and suburban communities as the path forward for his candidacy. This proved to be a crucial mistake for Cuban. In Iowa, Cuban would face the sweet music when he gets third - behind Walter Jones, a candidate who rose in Iowa thanks to his strong religious conservatism and support for farmers, and David Dewhurst, the traditionalist conservative candidate (usurping the title from the falling Beauprez, who hit 4th in Iowa, just ahead of Mick Cornett). New Hampshire would go to Romney, as would Nevada, and South Carolina would go to Dewhurst, again snubbing Mark Cuban. Cuban would not earn a win until Virginia, where D.C. Suburbs would propel Cuban to a sizable win over Jones. By then, Jones-mentum may have been too much.

Walter Jones was not the establishment pick, but he was the voters pick. He played all the right cards for GOP voters - he was the religious right candidate and made a point of being that early, he was the populist candidate, where Mick Cornett appeared too big government and Bob Beauprez appeared to be using populism as a ploy, and he gained sympathy from the libertarian community for his anti-war stance. Jones would bull-doze through most of the primaries, losing the Mormon west, most of New England, and the Romney Home of Michigan to Romney (who represented a lust for Traditional Liberal Republicanism), losing Urban centers and New Tech to Cuban (who represented something of a New Republicanism), and losing various home states and Libertarian bases (Alaska) to a swath of other candidates.



Senator Walter Jones Jr. (R-NC)
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Businessman Mark Cuban (R-PA)
Governor David Dewhurst (R-TX)
Congressman Justin Amash (R-MI)
Senator Bob Beauprez (R-CO)
Governor Mick Cornett (R-OK)

2016 Democratic Primaries

Russ Feingold faced very little real competition, winning 90%+ in most of the primaries. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., however, got to run as a vague protest candidate, and manage to score surprise narrow wins in Applachia and Oklahoma, wins that sent shock waves through the press. This, of course, led to more exposure of RFK Jr.'s notable anti-vaccine record, and some embarassment for the Feingold campaign. Nevertheless, Feingold was re-nominated with ease. Kennedy would go on to endorse Walter Jones for President.



President Russ Feingold (D-WI)

Former Governor Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: A New America - 2016 Primaries (Please READ before voting) on: January 14, 2017, 06:52:37 pm
I forgot to mention primaries have two days of voting instead of 3 for election days. I have a map that might change if more votes come in between now and 8 o'clock.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: A New America - 2016 Primaries (Please READ before voting) on: January 14, 2017, 03:11:35 pm
Jones's strategy of appealing to the Populist Right, the Religious Right, and sucking up a bit of the anti-war/libertarian right appears to be working.

Could I get suggestions for running mates? Here's a list of people and there offices for not already existant candidates:

Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) - Right, Free Trade
Former Governor Gene Taylor (R-MS) - Center Right, Fair Trade
Governor Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE) - Center Right, Free Trade
Governor John Martin (R-NM) - Center Right, Has not discussed trade
Governor Ed Voorhees (I-ND) - Centrist, Fair Trade, Pro-Life, Native American
Governor Trey Gowdy (R-SC) - Far Right, Free Trade
Senator J.C. Watts (R-OK) - Far Right, Free Trade
Senator Mike Lawrence (R-LA) - Far Right, Fair Trade
Minority Whip Mike Simpson (R-ID) - Center Right, Free Trade
Senator Jack Donaghy (D-PA) (Huh) - Center Left, Fair Trade, Pro-Life, Catholic as Hell, like a Democrat John McCain, something of a Maverick
Senator Melissa Hart (R-PA) - Center Right, Fair Trade, Pro-Choice
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: VA-GOV 2017: Tom Perriello to run for Va. governor: report on: January 14, 2017, 11:48:56 am

Didn't Governor McAuliffe recently sign some gun control? His numbers seem to be fine.

Yep, last we checked, Governor McAuliffe has a 53% approval rating.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Zinke is Int Sec, state Sens. Buttrey, Sales, running in special election on: January 14, 2017, 01:01:19 am
ugh the Baucus family sucks

You have more achievements? Or judge people by names, not deeds?

Well Baucus was a pretty worthless Senator when he was in office, even by "moderate hero" standards, and he tried to get his wife confirmed to an office she wasn't confirmed. I have little confidence "Zeno" is going to be much better.

yes i know your schtick is to defend every single conservative democrat or liberal republican regardless of how worthwhile they actually are because that's what you do. and then act superior about it.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: 2017/2018 Gubernational elections: Who is running megathread on: January 13, 2017, 10:54:18 pm
Is Tim Herbst unpopular with the GOP establishment? He strikes me as an incredibly capable person but also kind of an a-hole. I'd be surprised if they just let him skate to the nomination.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favorite Poster: Best of the Best on: January 13, 2017, 10:29:36 pm
The Mikado, Nathan, Al
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: 2048 Presidential Election. on: January 13, 2017, 10:27:25 pm
Interesting people are looking at Oregon becoming a Lean R state.
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your favourite incumbent Mayors? on: January 13, 2017, 10:05:27 pm
I like Eric Garcetti, I like Mick Cornett, I don't know enough about other mayors to make a sound judgement.

I have a lot of hope for the new mayor of Tulsa, G.T. Bynum, but we've been burned before.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Zinke is Int Sec, state Sens. Buttrey, Sales, running in special election on: January 13, 2017, 07:43:32 pm
ugh the Baucus family sucks
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