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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: Podesta now calling the losers to tell them its not them on: July 22, 2016, 07:10:19 pm

Hooch is craaaaazy
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN Instant Poll of Speech Watchers on: July 22, 2016, 06:24:18 pm
I fully expect to see this forum go crazy, though.
That's a prediction those on both sides of the aisle can agree with....

In a micro scale, it will be a mass freakout.
In a macro scale, it's just the fluidity of what a normal Presidential campaign looks like historically.

But nevertheless, the Atlas freakout will be YUUUUGE!
Definitely. I don't know how many posters here were around for 2012, but there was a full meltdown on Atlas after Obama's first debate debacle 4 years ago. In hindsight it's funny, but back then *shivers.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: NYT: Kaine's the frontrunner; announcement Fri afternoon on: July 22, 2016, 03:35:00 pm
Trump goes to announce his VP - terror attack in France. Clinton goes to announce her VP - terror attack in Germany. Somebody get Alex Jones on the phone.

Honestly, there seems to be a terror attack in Europe any time something big in the US is about to happen politically this year...
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: MRG - MI: Clinton +5 on: July 21, 2016, 08:59:56 am
I agree that MI "could" indeed be a toss-up.

2008 and 2012 might have been exceptional, with Obama on the ballot.

With the "fighter for the car industry" off the ballot, it could become closer because Hillary is a terrible candidate. Unless she deploys Obama to the state a few times ...
Tender can you stop this Hillary is a terrible candidate sh**t.  It gets old quickly.  Leave you damn partisanship in the past and get over the fact that your candidate lost fair and square by a large margin. 

I have no problem with accepting that she beat Sanders in the primaries.

I didn't like her before that. I virtually never liked her and she remains a terrible candidate and I will keep on repeating that she's a trainwreck.
Do what you want.  At this point, I just assume your unquenchable hatred of her is because she's an unattractive woman who has made it far in politics, and that grinds your gears.  Seeing as you and many on this forum have made not only creepy but sexist remarks regarding many women in politics.
Well that escalated quickly
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 20, 2016, 07:36:40 pm
Why're the crazy ones always so damn hot. Smh Pam Bondi
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: pre-Democratic convention discussion LATEST: 1st few speakers' names released on: July 17, 2016, 10:50:01 pm
Anyone heard if Al Gore is speaking? I know there isn't much love lost between he and Hillary, but putting his face on national television might help remind a few Bernie or Busters what happens when you waste your vote on a third-party.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tillis: Confirming judges not part of Senators' jobs on: July 16, 2016, 12:57:57 pm
So is there a thing with Republican Senators where they physically can't accept Obama's court nominees? Do they try but just can't bring themselves to do it? Or maybe Tillis is just an idiot.

They did with Sotomayor and Kagan. This year they are simply abiding by the Biden Rules.

OK, I'll bite. What are "the Biden Rules"?

The dipsh**t is almost certainly referring to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZlzhULrJC0
First off, "the Biden Rules" aren't a thing. Second, even if they were, Senate Republicans have been following them for about 6/8 years of this Presidency. You don't think that's kinda nutty?
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: DNC Platform Drafting Committee member Cornel West endorses Jill Stein on: July 15, 2016, 12:28:03 am
As was said from the beginning, Sanders was trolling the DNC by putting West on the platform committee.
To be fair, remember what the DNC did to him. Please don't be a Debbie and call all who think the DNC and she attempted to help Clinton sexists and anti-Semitic.
To be fair, Cornel West is not and never was a Democrat, and so shouldn't be anywhere near the policy-crafting team of the Democratic National Convention.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are some Atlas "cardinal sins"? on: July 12, 2016, 10:06:22 pm
Not putting "the" in front of a demographic: the blacks, the gays, the olds, etc
10  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: I like reading such kind of quotes. on: July 11, 2016, 11:12:25 pm
"Darling it's better, down where it's wetter."- Bill Cosby
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump won't rule out not serving as President if Elected on: July 08, 2016, 07:16:11 pm
He's spent $50 million + funding his campaign and now he's going to say, "fuggetaboutit?" Ya. OK.

That must be the newest DNC talking point. The New York Times and their lemming readers are gullible.

I feel like this isn't a line of attack that Hillary and the Democrats should use. Pushing the narrative that Trump wouldn't even serve his full term would equate to giving voters an excuse to vote for him because "he wouldn't be able to do any real damage".
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CPD announces format for GE Debates on: July 08, 2016, 06:39:38 pm
Chuck Todd should moderate
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: President Infinity Group Game??? (2008) on: July 07, 2016, 01:52:47 am
Barack Obama
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Favorite State That Favors Your Political Opposition? on: June 28, 2016, 04:29:45 pm
Montana
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump started June with $1.3 million... Hillary started June with $42 million on: June 20, 2016, 11:56:55 pm
Money doesn't buy elections, as evidenced by Obama being vastly outspent in 2012... But it sure as hell helps
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP news LATEST: Clinton team to start meeting short listers on: June 20, 2016, 11:53:55 pm
Liz Warren is shamelessly trying to become VP, but she'll end up looking like the left-wing Chris Christie.
She already does. I would like to see Clinton give Warren the finger and select Becerra or Perez as her running mate.

Becerra or Perez would be an incredibly savvy move from her part. It will pull more Hispanics in as Trump alienates them to unprecedented lengths.
I agree 100%. Tom Perez is as progressive, if not more, than Warren, and at least Becerra and Perez were honest about their candidate preferences and endorsed Clinton from the beginning. Warren, on the other hand, gave Sanders supporters every reason to believe that she would endorse Sanders, but then refused to make any endorsements until Clinton was her only choice, and now vies full-throttle for the VP spot. Becerra and Perez, or even Brown, deserve the position more than Warren does. They are all progressives, but the former three made a decision from the beginning.

When did she ever lead Sanders supporters to believe she'd endorse him? She was neutral literally the entire process and then endorsed the presumptive nominee which, funny thing, happens to be Clinton. She would've done the same for Sanders if he pulled a win out of his ass.
Warren's Senate votes and stated policy positions clearly align more with Sanders than they do Clinton, as do Sherrod Brown's, yet she refused to back the man who could have enacted the progressive agenda she claimed to have wanted to seen enacted (especially considering that Sanders would be a much stronger candidate in the general election than Clinton). She would not have done the same for Sanders, as evidenced by the fact that Sanders won several states during the primary process, and had a real shot at the nomination. Warren's endorsement could have pushed Sanders over the top in Massachusetts, and if given early enough, perhaps in Iowa, Illinois, and Ohio. Warren had a clear choice, and she stayed neutral when Sanders needed her most. Tom Perez, Xavier Becerra, and Sherrod Brown, on the other hand, did not give any false impressions. They came out from the beginning backing Clinton. That does not make sense to me, but at least they are honest. They have been loyal to Clinton from the beginning, and deserve to be Clinton's #2 more than Warren does.
Or, and here's a crazy thought, she did not want her primary endorsement to be what put a candidate over the top and instead preferred to let it play out much like Obama did. It's no secret that Hillary was his much preferred successor. Warren more likely liked both Clinton and Sanders, but did not want to choose between the two and so decided to endorse the presumptive nominee (who is Hillary Clinton).
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP news LATEST: Clinton team to start meeting short listers on: June 20, 2016, 01:06:51 pm
Liz Warren is shamelessly trying to become VP, but she'll end up looking like the left-wing Chris Christie.
She already does. I would like to see Clinton give Warren the finger and select Becerra or Perez as her running mate.

Becerra or Perez would be an incredibly savvy move from her part. It will pull more Hispanics in as Trump alienates them to unprecedented lengths.
I agree 100%. Tom Perez is as progressive, if not more, than Warren, and at least Becerra and Perez were honest about their candidate preferences and endorsed Clinton from the beginning. Warren, on the other hand, gave Sanders supporters every reason to believe that she would endorse Sanders, but then refused to make any endorsements until Clinton was her only choice, and now vies full-throttle for the VP spot. Becerra and Perez, or even Brown, deserve the position more than Warren does. They are all progressives, but the former three made a decision from the beginning.

You've gotta be fckin kidding me. When did she ever lead Sanders supporters to believe she'd endorse him? She was neutral literally the entire process and then endorsed the presumptive nominee which, funny thing, happens to be Clinton. She would've done the same for Sanders if he pulled a win out of his ass.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: George W. Bush to campaign for vulnerable Republicans on: June 17, 2016, 06:54:17 pm
I'd love to see Obama and Bush go head-to-head on the trail. Bush has been amazing when it comes to avoiding criticizing his successor, but let's see how his abstention works out while campaigning with a right-winger like Ron Johnson.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Robert F Kennedy on: June 16, 2016, 08:02:00 am
FF other than being anti-war.  His support for Israel (which was what got him assassinated) would not be welcome in the Democratic party of today.

I love this assertion - as if the presumptive Democratic nominee is not a solid backer of Israel.

All I'm saying is have you seen Hillary Clinton and Khaled Mashal, leader of the Islamic Palestinian organization Hamas, in the same room together? I didn't think so.

Israel is under attack by the Democrats. Democrats seek the destruction of Israel in all forms. No progress has or ever will be made by Democrats on the safety and a peaceful agreement for Israel.

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. All those names successfully destroyed any hope for peace in the Middle East and are Palestinian hogs.
Democrats have become very anti-Israel as of late.  The minute the New Left took over the party, they started taking a very anti-Semitic, pro-Palestinian turn.  Read these articles to see what I mean:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/09/the_democrats_anti-israel_party_platform.html
http://nypost.com/2014/07/24/obamas-israel-legacy-a-hostile-democratic-party/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/18/foreign-policy-expert-reveals-why-he-believes-liberals-have-become-increasingly-anti-israel/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/valerie-tarico/sophisticated-liberal-jew_b_191135.html

lololoolloolol.
I mean he's not completely wrong. But it's not that the Democratic left is against Israel as a state as much as we're annoyed that our leaders have put the interests of Israel on the same level or even ahead of US interests. And Netanyahu is a dick.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of these banned or inactive members would you like to return? on: June 16, 2016, 07:56:21 am
opebo
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Official Obama 2.0 Approval Ratings Thread on: June 16, 2016, 06:21:39 am
Gallup:
54% Approve
42% Disapprove

Where did you find that? I've been tracking Gallup's presidential approval ratings page and Obama has not yet reached 54% on there this year.

Must have been an error then, it was on Saturday night.
No, Obama reached 54% approval in Gallup on June 11th. I've been following their daily approval tracking poll since summer 2011 #nerdalert.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP senator doesn't rule out a convention challenge to TRUMP on: June 14, 2016, 03:29:11 pm
I don't understand why Walker would be their pick after what he did in Wisconsin regarding his campaign finance issues. He and his Republican friends quickly & quietly disbanded the state GAB and replaced it with a partisan board for no good, legitimate reason. At the same time, he also quietly signed a bill loosening campaign finance restrictions. And iirc, there were also concerns about his State Supreme Court appointment(s). He could also be hit for helping rig the state maps in the last round of redistricting. This would be more potent if the current lawsuit against these rigged maps succeeds. Their trial wrapped up a week or two ago and the plaintiffs did make a good case.

Point is, if they plan to toss in a candidate at the last minute - One who will have little time to build up a viable campaign, Walker doesn't seem like the best option. Painting him as corrupt doesn't seem like it would be that hard.

Not to mention he completely flamed out of the race about 4 months before it even started
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie says 'Game on' to debate with Trump. on: May 26, 2016, 07:25:17 pm
LOL at the pathetic Hillary hacks whining. Hillary would have prevented this if she hadn't reneged on her promise to have a California debate.
She's basically the presumptive nominee. There's literally no reason at all to humor Sanders with a debate, especially considering how every one they've had has been exactly the same over and over again.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders fundraising for Feingold, other congressional candidates on: May 26, 2016, 06:09:06 pm
The first good thing Bernie Sanders has done this whole campaign. Better do a whole lot more if that lunatic wants to get back on my good side.

Not the first good thing, more like one of the first good things in a long time, along with endorsing and raising money for DWS's opponent.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Jim Barksdale’s plan to oust Johnny Isakson from Georgia’s Senate seat on: May 25, 2016, 05:42:33 pm
Georgia doesn't work like that. Safe R sadly
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