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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trumpcare Megathread: 22 million more uninsured under new BCRA (w/o Cruz amen.) on: July 20, 2017, 04:33:05 pm
What is the whip count for even starting debate at this point?  Do they even have a bill with 50 votes?

They said they don't know the whip count


So, they are just voting to open up debate with no bill in mind, just to say "We want something to be done".

At this point McConnell just wants to hold a vote. If it passes, great. If it fails, it brings closure to the issue and allows the senate to move on.

Basically, just a vote on whether or not to continue negotiations or give up?

Yes

So does this vote require 60 or 50?

As it will be on a bill that falls within reconciliation, 50.

I was under the impression that full repeal didn't fall within the rules of reconciliation, as some aspects of Obamacare didn't have to do with budget. I'm confused as hell about what this motion to proceed is even regarding.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which type of Democratic nominee could win the largest number of EVs in 2020? on: July 20, 2017, 03:57:48 pm
I'd say a mix between the top two, a Bernie Style Heartland Populist
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trumpcare Megathread: 22 million more uninsured under new BCRA (w/o Cruz amen.) on: July 20, 2017, 03:54:40 pm
What is the whip count for even starting debate at this point?  Do they even have a bill with 50 votes?

They said they don't know the whip count


So, they are just voting to open up debate with no bill in mind, just to say "We want something to be done".

At this point McConnell just wants to hold a vote. If it passes, great. If it fails, it brings closure to the issue and allows the senate to move on.

Basically, just a vote on whether or not to continue negotiations or give up?

Yes

So does this vote require 60 or 50?
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Laura Bush? on: July 17, 2017, 10:43:44 pm
Didn't Laura Bush kill a guy?

FF
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trumpcare Megathread: Collins/Paul/Lee/Moran oppose the MTP on BCRA on: July 17, 2017, 09:13:48 pm
Has anyone noticed that no Senator has come out in opposition to the BCA on the basis of the Cruz Amendment?
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Election Night 2000: Rockefeller vs. Wilson vs. Trump on: July 15, 2017, 09:58:53 pm
January 3, 2001

The House of Representatives voted for who would be the next president. 210 Democrats and one Independent voted for Jay Rockefeller. 190 Republicans voted for Pete Wilson, and 31 Republicans, one Democrat, and one Independent voted for Donald Trump. Jay Rockefeller will be the sworn in January 20th.
The House votes by state delegations.
^This

Each representative gets one vote in their state. Whichever candidate gets a majority of a state's congressmen to vote for him, wins that state. Take Georgia, which has 14 Congressional Districts. Whichever candidate gets 8 or more votes wins Georgia. The goal is to win a majority of states, which is 26.

Furthermore, only the top two vote getters go to the House of Representatives. So only Rockefeller and Wilson are still eligible to be candidates.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you vote for a robot (ai) president? on: July 10, 2017, 04:43:42 am
That was literally one of the dumbest articles I've ever read from POLITICO. And that's saying something.

Hell nah
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Tom Coburn will work to oust Rep. Markwayne Mullin (OK-2) on: July 08, 2017, 03:27:28 pm
I never really had issues w/ Mullin (compared to Bridenstine, who I dislike intensely).

But, as always, I respect Dr. No's commitment to principles. I wish he was still in the senate.

I've always found Mullin to be an absolutely awful Congressman who doesn't even pretend to hide the contempt he has for his constituents.  However, I agree about Coburn.  I disagree with almost all of his positions, but he always seemed like a decent guy and is certainly as good a Senator as one can realistically expect in OK.
He was also one of 44's only Republican friends in the Senate.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What Democrat would do the best against Trump, and what would the map look like? on: July 04, 2017, 01:58:24 pm
It would have to be someone who could think on their feet when responding to Trump's jabs and sound genuine doing so, while also giving off an air of competence. Biden best embodies those aspects. Other candidate seem to be divided into the either/or categories.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: When will the next Trump-Russia bombshell leak? on: July 01, 2017, 11:40:25 am
Wittes: "More is coming, people."

Apparently the bombshells are going to start coming at a regular pace again. Season II of "The Americans: The Trump Journey" inbound?

Whatever happened to the "big" story that those two former GOP strategists were saying was supposed to drop right before the election? I mean, it was almost certainly BS or at the very least over-exaggerated, and this feels a lot like that.

There was rumors floating around that I semi believed that said the Pussygate tapes were only the beginning. Later on in October there would be a Trump tape leaked of him dropping the N bomb. That turned out to be total over hyped BS, sadly.

I was under the impression that the n-word tape existed, but the producer on "The Apprentice" refused to leak it.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Is any Senator at all going to retire? on: July 01, 2017, 01:54:40 am
I am watching for Bill Nelson! No way he wants to face Rick Scott.
Lol
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Atlas posters, who is, at this moment, your preferred prospective candidate? on: June 30, 2017, 02:35:44 pm
If he's still in good shape, Joe Biden. And if not then whichever decides to take the plunge between Jason Kander and Steve Bullock.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Steve Bullock's most likely path to the nomination? on: June 28, 2017, 09:48:43 pm
No.
This. Why? The only people who know who Clinton is are:

1. Arkansans
2. Political nerds like us
Circa. 1989
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Only 17% approval for Trumpcare on: June 28, 2017, 10:25:20 am
Love how Trump doesn't give a s*** about the bill but it's somehow Trumpcare

I agree, it should be called conservaCare.
If always been more partial to WealthCare
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 06:19:18 pm

No offence to Nate and 538...but his ''models'' were wrong about everything in 2016 and not even in just politics...they blew a bunch of sports predictions (and by bunch I mean all)

Umm...you do realize that Nate Cohn and Nate Silver are two different people, right?  Cohn is affiliated with the New York Times, not 538.


It's all the same thing. They were all repeatedly wrong about so many things with their ''models.'' Nate Silver currently holds the record for the largest polling prediction error in US election history
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread on: June 18, 2017, 09:12:59 am

After listening to the podcast, I came away feeling two things.
1) Jason Kander has an amazing sense of humor
2) He wants to run in 2020 and is looking for the right opening.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which Oval Office Rug Is The Best? on: June 13, 2017, 09:16:06 pm
W. followed by Tricky Dick.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 11, 2017, 02:51:10 pm
Good thread from Nate Cohn about the "no party" early vote: https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/873938254793510912

I find it much more likely that new no party voters are turning out for Ossoff than Handel, based on the extent of their campaign outreach. If Cohn's analysis is correct, Ossoff might be in a prime position to actually win this. But I'd caution my fellow red avatars not to get cocky with your predictions. This is still Georgia after all.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: VA-GOV 2017: Tom Perriello to run for Va. governor: report on: June 07, 2017, 09:51:21 pm
Sad. Perriello is an amazing candidate. But he should've run in '13.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mind Blown on: June 07, 2017, 07:24:02 pm
lol sarcasm is an amusing form of humor
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 06, 2017, 08:55:31 pm
Anyone else get an Obama-esque vibe from the way Ossoff speaks?? It's very similar to Obama's speaking style, re the cadence and rhythm.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 06, 2017, 08:11:19 pm
Judging by the way the debate went, Ossoff definitely has a lead. Handel threw everything and the kitchen sink at him and he just shruged it off. I will give her credit that her question of "Who'ee you voting for Jon" was her most effective remark tonight. But that is due more to how terrible her performance and debate skills are.
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Leftists only: which election would you rather have lost? on: June 05, 2017, 01:28:55 am
2016.

But for more personal reasons than anything. If Barack Obama lost re-election than Republicans will have succeeded in delegitimizing the first black President. His election in 2008 would have been looked at as a mistake. And as a young black man myself, it would have been completely disheartening to blacks across the country.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Attention Hillary PRIMARY voters only! on: May 26, 2017, 05:54:57 pm
No, I'd support Bullock, Franken, or Kander. It's the Year of the White Man!
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: May 26, 2017, 01:08:04 pm
If Evans jumped in, that points to Carter sitting this race out. And that's sad because he's head and shoulders above Abrams as a candidate, and I feel would have beaten her in a primary. I'm not so sure about Evans.
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