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1076  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: This is what a "liberal" Muslim country is like on: June 06, 2005, 07:03:19 am
In the US, seeing a woman's ankles was considered taboo a hundred years ago.

You can't expect Muslim culture to advance three hundred years in thirty, let alone ten.

so why are all Muslim countries so far behind and backward?


Look, for a 'socialist', you seem extremely ignorant of the social, historical, economic etc. contexts that have and still do shape countries. Stop just gawping at the symptoms of underlying causes that I'd expect you more than anybody to be trying to point out.

I'd rather you boil it down to your simplistic Marxist bullsh**t rather than simplistic xenophobic bullsh**t.

Maybe you should read a few books on the history of muslim peoples...
1077  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Calvin (R) v. Hobbes (D) on: June 04, 2005, 11:40:53 am
I think Spaceman spiff should be Calvin's running mate, he might have "war hero" status of something. Susie Derkin's should be Hobbe's running mate.
1078  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: George Bush v. John Kerry (1956) on: June 04, 2005, 11:35:05 am
Zell Miller is more of a Democrat than you are.  Or at least what used to be the Democrats.

I'll agree with the last part.  Miller is a pre-1960s Democrat (quite appropriate for this thread I guess), and seems to be the last one left of his kind.  Jfern is more of a McGovern/Boxer Democrat, who have had the most influence in the party since the '60s.

I'd say Zell Miller is ideologically closer to even the present National democrat party than is jfern. I don't wish to try to back this hypothesis for now though...
1079  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: A quick question: on: May 29, 2005, 09:14:38 am
http://www.acuratings.com/

Try that, it's the American Conservative Union

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating.php

This has a big list

Thanks very much
1080  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / A quick question: on: May 28, 2005, 11:24:45 am
Does anyone have a website that rates Representatives and Senators, like with ADA, but on how Conservative they are in % terms?

(I'm making a map...)
1081  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: OFFICIAL Mideast Voting Booth - May 2005 on: May 21, 2005, 01:11:48 pm
Mideast Governor: Joe Republic

Prop 13: Aye
Prop 14: Aye
Init 05: Aye
Init 06: Aye
Init 07: Aye
1082  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 19, 2005, 09:05:53 pm
Oh, and i am offering the couple a 75%-off discount on a 7-night stay at the penthouse suite in the newly completed 'The Luxe' hotel and entertainment center in Las Vegas, Nevada. A free trip to the Grand Canyon will be included.

It's on the very top two stories of the 45-story blue cylindrical (cone-topped) tower that makes up the main part of 'the Luxe'. The room's outer walls and most of the ceiling are one-way glass (so you two can see all of Vegas without all of Vegas seeing you!). The two floors are 4,500 square feet combined, and include a Whirlpool spa, Wine cooler full of fine vintages, a Movie projector room, private gambling room, 3 bathrooms, and fine room service/catering from the four-star restaurant downstairs. It's perfect, both for private getaways and for big parties.


Cheers! That kinda reminds me of "fear and loathing in Las Vegas" - Ether, anyone?
1083  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: THE BEST REPRESENTATIVE (Round one, bracket three) on: May 19, 2005, 07:47:01 pm
1. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

2. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)

3. John B Larsen (D-CT)

4. Tim Bishop (D-NY)

5. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)

6. Martin Meehan (D-MA)

7. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)

8. Charlie Rangel (D-NY)

9. José Serrano (D-NY)

10. Joseph Crowley (D-NY)

11. Jerry Nadler (D-NY)

12. Weiner (D-NY)

13. Ed Towns (D-NY)

14. Major R Owens (D-NY)

15. Nydia Velazquez (D-NY)

16. Rob Andrews (D-NJ)....
1084  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: MissCatholic vs AuH20 on: May 19, 2005, 06:54:07 pm
The only people that deserve the death penalty are child molesters.

Murderers/rapists dont deserve the death penalty. i see no understanding in keeping them alive for 15 years when people who are pro-death penalty say that its the cost to keep them in prison better if they are dead.

I`m agasint that.. i totally belive that society can help murderers and rapists. child molesting is the worst human crime. they should be found guilty and then put to death within a month.

i understand why people have abortion and sympathise with their position but abortion is a sin.

i respect people that want to be gay. but my concern is polygamy. do we make that legal. the thing that i do push which i stated was gay adoption. they must be allowed to adopt. foster care does not work.

i hope that clears a few things up.

If you believe in the death penalty for child molesters you might as well do so for murderers and rapists. Why make such specific exceptions??

You've probably gotten too focused on the horrible nature of child molestation and overlooked easily comparable crimes such as murder and rape. Of course I don't believe in using the death penalty on anyone, but not because "it's just as bad" - It isn't - But it's still unnecessary and ineffective, and it's stooping to a low (but not equal) moral level.
1085  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Why Blair won, why Howard lost, why Kennedy did well- Silent Hunter's analysis on: May 19, 2005, 06:33:43 pm
Interesting fact: Howard did worse in Tory targets with a more religious population than with more secular populations.

Interesting fact: Howard did worse in Tory targets with a more religious population than with more secular populations.

Does that mean places like Dorset South, Hove and Medway tend to be more religious than say Monmouth or Guildford (and the gains that created a blue slug crawling from central London)?

Interesting
1086  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: 54'40 on: May 19, 2005, 05:38:03 pm
That's because, compared to other countries the United States is right winged!

So... every other industrialised/Western country is Left-winged?
1087  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: U.S with U.K-ish party system on: May 19, 2005, 05:27:28 pm
Al, I've just noticed you're "Yes Minister" pic in you're sig - One of the best TV programmes ever Smiley
1088  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unions (D) vs. Corporate Elite/Religious Nuts(R) on: May 19, 2005, 05:18:12 pm
This poll's options aren't biased at all.

As someone on the left, I find these kinds of threads quite embaressing...
1089  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Dems Can't Keep Losing Dixie on: May 18, 2005, 09:46:27 am
Bear in mind that voter turnout is generally lower in the South. Bush bearly won more than 30% of the electorate in many southern states in 2004, an improvement on 2000. (I can provide a map adjusted for turnout at some point...)

That's not to say that the Republicans would win had every eligable voter in the south voted, but it would be interesting to find out which sorts of people are less likely to vote, and how they could be won over.
1090  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 18, 2005, 09:33:30 am
Lighting a molotov cocktail up.

That won't work, you're holding it upside down...
1091  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 18, 2005, 09:32:40 am
Is this thread a joke? If it isn't, wow.
It's not a joke.

It's a serious political event (In Atlasia).
1092  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 18, 2005, 09:27:38 am
Do you I-Spy, take Peter, to be your spouse for life? Do you promise to love and comfort each other, honor and keep each other in sickness and in health, for richer and for poorer, for better or for worse and be faithful to each other as long as you both shall live?


Suddenly, I-Spy runs in*door slams*

I Do.

(Sorry everybody, I was held up by some "moral majority" activists!)
1093  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Opebo Ad #1: Stand Up For Freedom on: May 14, 2005, 12:24:51 pm
- Opebo values YOUR freedom.

Yeah, unless you're a Christian. Tongue

Or a Jew or a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Hindu or...

a kid?
1094  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I am delighted to announce ..... on: May 12, 2005, 11:24:18 pm
if so i'm keeping my surname, it's Rodham by the way
1095  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I am delighted to announce ..... on: May 12, 2005, 11:23:05 pm
am i the first person in history who can call themselves the "first man"??
1096  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: If you were voting in the UK election ... on: May 05, 2005, 11:47:29 am
all citizens be required to own an assault rifle to shoot burglars with and in case of a tyrannical government

That would mean that with the BNP as that government, those assault rifles wouldn't be sitting on the shelf long! lol
1097  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: If you were voting in the UK election ... on: May 05, 2005, 11:37:20 am
Tell me, what are the domestic economical policies of the BNP like?

Despite what Bierpiez said, I heard that in their manifesto launch they favoured scrapping the income tax (don't quote me on that).

I do know that they wish to re-introduce conscription, and that anyone who complete's their service will be given an assault rifle by the government.

You might like the bit about no income tax and the free gun, but I don't know how they'll pay for the weapon in question...
1098  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: I have a nagging feeling abt the UK election on: May 05, 2005, 11:20:27 am
There's an article about this on the radio now, as I type.

It's 5:17 in the afternoon now, if terrorists were planning an attack on UK soil it would've probably happened by now, the polls close in less than 5 hours.

There has been a stronger police presence in polling stations around London, not just for the King-Galloway race Wink
1099  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: ANTI-SEMITISM ALERT (in Bethnal Green o/c) on: April 19, 2005, 06:48:54 am
Note that Respect hasn't condemmned the disgusting attack on King. It hasn't even commented on it.

Have the Conservative and Lib Dem candidates? (not that they necessarily should be expected to, I'm just wondering).
1100  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour's Nightmare Scenario on: March 21, 2005, 12:48:26 pm

We are living in a society where the workshy get richer and the hard working get poorer.

That's empty, baseless rhetoric...

One word: chav (or ned as it is in Scotland) A social by product of New Labours social policy, in the same way Yuppies were a by product of Thatcherism. But guess which group was more benificial to society.


There were people who could be described as "Chavs" before 1997. In fact the lifestyle and basic status of their families identify very closely with the "New working class" whose emergence had become notable with the economic changes of the 1980s. They tend to be more affluent than the traditional working class (hence the expensive clothes many chavs wear).
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The under 25s are swinging rightwards.

I find that hard to believe, and not if I can help it. Wink It's more likely that their attitudes have moved towards the British economic centre.
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