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1076  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: OFFICIAL Mideast Voting Booth - May 2005 on: May 21, 2005, 01:11:48 pm
Mideast Governor: Joe Republic

Prop 13: Aye
Prop 14: Aye
Init 05: Aye
Init 06: Aye
Init 07: Aye
1077  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 19, 2005, 09:05:53 pm
Oh, and i am offering the couple a 75%-off discount on a 7-night stay at the penthouse suite in the newly completed 'The Luxe' hotel and entertainment center in Las Vegas, Nevada. A free trip to the Grand Canyon will be included.

It's on the very top two stories of the 45-story blue cylindrical (cone-topped) tower that makes up the main part of 'the Luxe'. The room's outer walls and most of the ceiling are one-way glass (so you two can see all of Vegas without all of Vegas seeing you!). The two floors are 4,500 square feet combined, and include a Whirlpool spa, Wine cooler full of fine vintages, a Movie projector room, private gambling room, 3 bathrooms, and fine room service/catering from the four-star restaurant downstairs. It's perfect, both for private getaways and for big parties.

Cheers! That kinda reminds me of "fear and loathing in Las Vegas" - Ether, anyone?
1078  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: THE BEST REPRESENTATIVE (Round one, bracket three) on: May 19, 2005, 07:47:01 pm
1. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

2. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)

3. John B Larsen (D-CT)

4. Tim Bishop (D-NY)

5. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)

6. Martin Meehan (D-MA)

7. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)

8. Charlie Rangel (D-NY)

9. José Serrano (D-NY)

10. Joseph Crowley (D-NY)

11. Jerry Nadler (D-NY)

12. Weiner (D-NY)

13. Ed Towns (D-NY)

14. Major R Owens (D-NY)

15. Nydia Velazquez (D-NY)

16. Rob Andrews (D-NJ)....
1079  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: MissCatholic vs AuH20 on: May 19, 2005, 06:54:07 pm
The only people that deserve the death penalty are child molesters.

Murderers/rapists dont deserve the death penalty. i see no understanding in keeping them alive for 15 years when people who are pro-death penalty say that its the cost to keep them in prison better if they are dead.

I`m agasint that.. i totally belive that society can help murderers and rapists. child molesting is the worst human crime. they should be found guilty and then put to death within a month.

i understand why people have abortion and sympathise with their position but abortion is a sin.

i respect people that want to be gay. but my concern is polygamy. do we make that legal. the thing that i do push which i stated was gay adoption. they must be allowed to adopt. foster care does not work.

i hope that clears a few things up.

If you believe in the death penalty for child molesters you might as well do so for murderers and rapists. Why make such specific exceptions??

You've probably gotten too focused on the horrible nature of child molestation and overlooked easily comparable crimes such as murder and rape. Of course I don't believe in using the death penalty on anyone, but not because "it's just as bad" - It isn't - But it's still unnecessary and ineffective, and it's stooping to a low (but not equal) moral level.
1080  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Why Blair won, why Howard lost, why Kennedy did well- Silent Hunter's analysis on: May 19, 2005, 06:33:43 pm
Interesting fact: Howard did worse in Tory targets with a more religious population than with more secular populations.

Interesting fact: Howard did worse in Tory targets with a more religious population than with more secular populations.

Does that mean places like Dorset South, Hove and Medway tend to be more religious than say Monmouth or Guildford (and the gains that created a blue slug crawling from central London)?

1081  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: 54'40 on: May 19, 2005, 05:38:03 pm
That's because, compared to other countries the United States is right winged!

So... every other industrialised/Western country is Left-winged?
1082  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: U.S with U.K-ish party system on: May 19, 2005, 05:27:28 pm
Al, I've just noticed you're "Yes Minister" pic in you're sig - One of the best TV programmes ever Smiley
1083  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unions (D) vs. Corporate Elite/Religious Nuts(R) on: May 19, 2005, 05:18:12 pm
This poll's options aren't biased at all.

As someone on the left, I find these kinds of threads quite embaressing...
1084  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Dems Can't Keep Losing Dixie on: May 18, 2005, 09:46:27 am
Bear in mind that voter turnout is generally lower in the South. Bush bearly won more than 30% of the electorate in many southern states in 2004, an improvement on 2000. (I can provide a map adjusted for turnout at some point...)

That's not to say that the Republicans would win had every eligable voter in the south voted, but it would be interesting to find out which sorts of people are less likely to vote, and how they could be won over.
1085  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 18, 2005, 09:33:30 am
Lighting a molotov cocktail up.

That won't work, you're holding it upside down...
1086  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 18, 2005, 09:32:40 am
Is this thread a joke? If it isn't, wow.
It's not a joke.

It's a serious political event (In Atlasia).
1087  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wedding Ceremony on: May 18, 2005, 09:27:38 am
Do you I-Spy, take Peter, to be your spouse for life? Do you promise to love and comfort each other, honor and keep each other in sickness and in health, for richer and for poorer, for better or for worse and be faithful to each other as long as you both shall live?

Suddenly, I-Spy runs in*door slams*

I Do.

(Sorry everybody, I was held up by some "moral majority" activists!)
1088  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Opebo Ad #1: Stand Up For Freedom on: May 14, 2005, 12:24:51 pm
- Opebo values YOUR freedom.

Yeah, unless you're a Christian. Tongue

Or a Jew or a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Hindu or...

a kid?
1089  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I am delighted to announce ..... on: May 12, 2005, 11:24:18 pm
if so i'm keeping my surname, it's Rodham by the way
1090  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I am delighted to announce ..... on: May 12, 2005, 11:23:05 pm
am i the first person in history who can call themselves the "first man"??
1091  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: If you were voting in the UK election ... on: May 05, 2005, 11:47:29 am
all citizens be required to own an assault rifle to shoot burglars with and in case of a tyrannical government

That would mean that with the BNP as that government, those assault rifles wouldn't be sitting on the shelf long! lol
1092  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: If you were voting in the UK election ... on: May 05, 2005, 11:37:20 am
Tell me, what are the domestic economical policies of the BNP like?

Despite what Bierpiez said, I heard that in their manifesto launch they favoured scrapping the income tax (don't quote me on that).

I do know that they wish to re-introduce conscription, and that anyone who complete's their service will be given an assault rifle by the government.

You might like the bit about no income tax and the free gun, but I don't know how they'll pay for the weapon in question...
1093  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: I have a nagging feeling abt the UK election on: May 05, 2005, 11:20:27 am
There's an article about this on the radio now, as I type.

It's 5:17 in the afternoon now, if terrorists were planning an attack on UK soil it would've probably happened by now, the polls close in less than 5 hours.

There has been a stronger police presence in polling stations around London, not just for the King-Galloway race Wink
1094  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: ANTI-SEMITISM ALERT (in Bethnal Green o/c) on: April 19, 2005, 06:48:54 am
Note that Respect hasn't condemmned the disgusting attack on King. It hasn't even commented on it.

Have the Conservative and Lib Dem candidates? (not that they necessarily should be expected to, I'm just wondering).
1095  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour's Nightmare Scenario on: March 21, 2005, 12:48:26 pm

We are living in a society where the workshy get richer and the hard working get poorer.

That's empty, baseless rhetoric...

One word: chav (or ned as it is in Scotland) A social by product of New Labours social policy, in the same way Yuppies were a by product of Thatcherism. But guess which group was more benificial to society.

There were people who could be described as "Chavs" before 1997. In fact the lifestyle and basic status of their families identify very closely with the "New working class" whose emergence had become notable with the economic changes of the 1980s. They tend to be more affluent than the traditional working class (hence the expensive clothes many chavs wear).

The under 25s are swinging rightwards.

I find that hard to believe, and not if I can help it. Wink It's more likely that their attitudes have moved towards the British economic centre.
1096  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How racist were the following presidents? on: March 13, 2005, 12:03:34 pm
If we graphed all presidents on how rascist we are, it would be a steady but significant decline over time. Standards have gradually improved over time.

Indeed, George W. Bush is easily one of the least rascist presidents ever.
1097  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: You wake up as Joseph Stalin- Jan 1, 1933 on: March 13, 2005, 11:58:57 am
I'd move towards a more W. European version of socialism, like social democracy, almost immediately.  We'd hold elections for municipal governments by 1935.  We'd have property rights as well.

I'd define my New Socialism as opposed to fascism, hoping to gain adherents in the West, as I pose as the great counterbalance to Hitler and Mussolini.  The feckless Chamberlain does not stop Hitler, only I the Man of Steel can.

I'd lend support to the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War, hoping to beat back the rise of fascism before Hitler could unleash his war.

Basically, slowly liberalize this downtrodden society economically and politically, while opposing Hitler's rise.  Hopefully, the nationalism from opposing Germany will keep the hard liners behind me long enough that they won't notice I'm slowly doing away with communism.

I have to say I agree with your plan, you've covered most of what I intended to! Smiley
1098  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Rate these following politicians/activists on: March 13, 2005, 11:51:04 am
1 - Strongly Disapprove
2 - Moderately Disapprove
3 - Moderately Approve
4 - Strongly Approve

George W. Bush  1
Dick Cheney       1
Bill Frist              1
Tom DeLay         1
Nancy Pelosi       3
Harry Reid          3
Pat Robertson     1
Jesse Jackson     3
John Kerry         3
Al Gore               2
Robert Byrd        2
Ted Kennedy      3
John Ashcroft     1
Ralph Nader       3
Pat Buchanan    1
Zell Miller           1
John McCain       2
1099  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Give your opinion on these two political figures on: March 13, 2005, 11:45:53 am
Leaving aside arguable alternatives from the time, the use of nuclear weapons against Japan probably did do more good than harm in the long-term. Secondly, it was in the past and there is no point getting worked up about it. (I that Truman's foreign policy was otherwise rational and well thought-out.)

Nonetheless, I believe it highly distasteful for people to admire Truman's decision to drop the bomb on the grounds that it is in any way a display of virtue and conviction!
1100  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Russell Feingold... on: March 13, 2005, 10:29:50 am
I dont care to much for gay marriage, but adoption is a different thing.  Id rather see a child in a loving home with two parents of the same sex than in a broke down orphanage or foster home.  As long as they DONT push their lifestyle on the child.

Could you tell me exactly in which way you imagine homosexual couples would "push" their lifestyle on the child??
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