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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: October 13, 2014, 08:55:30 am
Germany fights for Australian submarine defence contract after Japan makes a bid for it
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A HIGH-POWERED German submarine delegation is in Canberra to demand an open competition for the nation’s biggest ever defence contract — a new navy submarine. German giant ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS), the parent company of leading submarine builder HDW, has launched an aggressive bid to head off Japan for the multi-billion dollar job.
And in good news for thousands of shipyard workers at the ASC yard in Port Adelaide and elsewhere around the nation, TKMS said it would be happy to build the boats in Australia.
The company has built more than 160 diesel powered submarines and it has promised the Abbott Government that it could deliver 12 “ready for war” conventional submarines to replace the controversial Collins Class boats for $20 billion.

It said the boats could be either built at its shipyard in Kiel, Germany or at the ASC yard in Adelaide “risk free under a fixed price and fixed delivery contract”.
During the last election campaign the Coalition Government promised to build the boats at ASC in Port Adelaide, but it appeared to back away from the pledge in favour of the Japanese Soryu Class boat.
Navy shipbuilding expert Dr John White told a Senate inquiry yesterday that the Soryu option was “challenging” because Japan had never exported a submarine.

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That seems like a damn good deal.  Either way, a bidding war is good for Australia.

It will be interesting to see if Shorten sticks to the racist protectionist rhetoric he used when describing the Japanese.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: IA-Selzer: Hillary leads all Pubs on: October 13, 2014, 03:09:03 am
2014 electorate btw.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would an atheist president bother you? on: October 12, 2014, 06:14:56 am
Yes (catholic)

I mean, no religious politicians declare themselves as "agnostic" even if they don't believe in god at all.

If a president declares himself as "atheist", that would probably mean he's going to be be an anti religious president.

Julia Gillard a self declared atheist was in no way anti-religion.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Predict Margin (%) for CO-Senate on: October 04, 2014, 08:25:09 pm
Gardner - 48%
Udall - 45%
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Climate change causes 35.000 walruses in Alaska to abandon ice platforms on: October 03, 2014, 07:05:47 am
This just angers me because so many people still have their head in the sand about climate change.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Predict Margin (%) for IA-Senate on: October 02, 2014, 10:46:38 pm
47% Ernst
46% Braley
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Biggest UPSET of election night (besides Senate Control) on: October 02, 2014, 10:46:01 pm
Watch Susana Martinez lose.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: IA: Gravis: Clinton ties, Bush, Ryan on: October 02, 2014, 05:59:09 pm
Well Hillary did lose Iowa in '08 but yeah, I think anyone can tell that >gravis and 2014 electorate means this poll is meaningless.
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: October 01, 2014, 10:25:48 am
Tasmania could introduce extremely draconian smoking laws...

I don't smoke myself, and wouldn't personally (don't mind the smell, but don't want heart attacks or bad teeth) but this is clearly a recipe for disaster...

Restricting access to tobacco is a bad idea in my opinion, considering it will just create another black & grey market alike, could result in more people turning to illicit drugs, and opens up the scary avenue for restricting/banning alcohol and fast food. While tobacco is VERY different to say, a bucket of fried chicken or a pint of beer, in that there's second-hand smoke, it still seems absurd to deny adults the right to buy and use tobacco.

That is a dreadful idea and will never see the light of day. Like, restrictions on where people can smoke but at the end of the day if a person wants to do that to their body and are willing to pay a lot for it - why not? The anti-smoking crusade is kind of disgusting.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: KY-Mellman Group (D): Grimes-internal has her ahead by 2 on: October 01, 2014, 10:21:36 am
Doubt it. Doubt it very much.
11  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 30, 2014, 10:41:04 pm
Can anyone explain Christopher Pyne's voice?
12  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Anyone else watching Survivor: Blood vs. Water 2? on: September 30, 2014, 10:35:41 pm
Yes.

I live for Survivor, last season was brilliant - Kass vs Trish is one of my favourite Survivor fights of all time because Kass was so delusional. And also, when J'Tia burnt all the rice and they still kept her. Survivor is like the greatest show.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: President Forever Policy Planks on: September 30, 2014, 10:26:29 pm
//Abortion
  • Unrestricted access to abortions. (L)
[ ] Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health. (CL)
[ ] Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health. (C)
[ ] No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape. (CR)
[ ] No legal abortions. (R)

//Affirmative Action
[ ] Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas. (L)
[ ] Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action. (CL)
  • The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action. (C)
[ ] Affirmative action programs only in certain cases. (CR)
[ ] Abolish all federal affirmative action programs. (R)

//Balanced Budget
  • A deficit is fine - focus on social programs. (L)
[ ] Military spending is more important than the deficit. (CL)
[ ] Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities. (C)
[ ] A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit. (CR)
[ ] Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible. (R)

//Business Tax
[ ] Significantly increase business taxation. (L)
[ ] Increase business taxation. (CL)
  • Businesses are taxed the right amount. (C)
[ ] Reduce business taxation. (CR)
[ ] Significantly reduce business taxation. (R)

//Campaign Finance Reform
[ ] Elections are rigged for the two parties - we need major reform! (L)
  • We need to significantly reduce corporate donations. (CL)
[ ] We need to put more power into smaller donors' hands. (C)
[ ] The McCain/Feingold bill is sufficient. (CR)
[ ] No campaign finance reform is needed. (R)

//Ecology
  • The environment must be our first national priority. (L)
[ ] Good environmental policies are good economic policies. (CL)
[ ] Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies. (C)
[ ] Economic policies must come before environmental policies. (CR)
[ ] The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it. (R)

//Education
[ ] No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding. (L)
  • No school vouchers, increase federal funding. (CL)
[ ] Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding. (C)
[ ] School vouchers for lower-income students. (CR)
[ ] School vouchers for anyone. (R)

//Free Trade
[ ] We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries. (L)
[ ] Some industries need to be protected. (CL)
[ ] Open markets should be approached with caution. (C)
  • Most markets should be open. (CR)
[ ] All markets should be open! (R)

//Gun Control
  • Ban all guns! (L)
[ ] Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks. (CL)
[ ] Guns control is a state issue. (C)
[ ] We should be very wary of gun control. (CR)
[ ] Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control! (R)

//Same-Sex Marriage
  • Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right. (L)
[ ] Same-sex marriage, even if not in name. (CL)
[ ] Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions. (C)
[ ] Marriage is between a man and a woman. (CR)
[ ] Homosexuals need to be treated for their condition. (R)

//Immigration
  • Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty. (L)
[ ] Legal immigration is great. (CL)
[ ] Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed. (C)
[ ] Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration. (CR)
[ ] Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now! (R)

//Military Funding
[ ] Drastically cut military funding, establish a Department of Peace. (L)
  • We should decrease military funding. (CL)
[ ] Keep military budget the same, look to be more efficient. (C)
[ ] Increase the military budget, but find ways to be more efficient. (CR)
[ ] We need to significantly increase military funding to meet new threats. (R)

//Military Intervention
[ ] Military intervention is another way of saying 'empire building'. (L)
  • For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked. (CL)
[ ] Only if we are attacked. (C)
[ ] Only if our national interests are threatened. (CR)
[ ] We can and should use our military might to further our own interests. (R)

//Personal Tax
[ ] Increase income tax for everyone. (L)
  • Increase income tax for the rich. (CL)
[ ] Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets. (C)
[ ] Reduce income tax across the board. (CR)
[ ] Reduce income tax for the rich. (R)

//Public Health Care
  • We need a completely public health care system. (L)
[ ] Universal health care, whether public or private. (CL)
[ ] Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private. (C)
[ ] Only a few public health care benefits. (CR)
[ ] The health care system should be completely private. (R)

//Renewable Energy
  • Renewable energy all the way! (L)
[ ] We should focus on renewable energy sources. (CL)
[ ] Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched. (R)
[ ] Coal and oil are our main concerns right now. (CR)
[ ] We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources. (R)

//Social Security
  • No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding. (L)
[ ] No to private investment, increase funding. (CL)
[ ] Keep social security as it is. (C)
[ ] Let workers privately invest some of their social security payments. (CR)
[ ] Let workers privately invest all social security payments. (R)

//Terrorism
[ ] We should surrender to the terrorists. (L)
[ ] We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice. (CL)
[ ] Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must. (C)
  • We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism. (CR)
[ ] Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force. (R)
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PPP-Louisiana: Jindal & Christie in big trouble, Bush & Huckabee popular on: September 30, 2014, 10:16:10 am
That's poor for all Republicans considering the sample used was a mid-term sample. Not saying Hillary would beat them just that she could more so than Obama could.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 23, 2014, 09:37:07 am
If you think carefully, this discussion doesn't have anything to do with Australia at all.

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Everyone, put him on ignore, and unlike me idiotically just now, don't feel tempted to click 'show'.

I finally just did that, I seriously don't understand why this German is so interested in me? Like, seriously?

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Do you all reckon that with NZ pushing for a flag change, Australia might actually soon?
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 22, 2014, 08:18:17 pm
Well I can't remember back to the 2006 election as I was only 10 and really my memory of 2014 is hazy. However, my problem with the whole process going on now and the fact that this wasn't an election promise and therefore it should be taken to the electorate. Tbh, I've probably got most of the facts wrong however, I still believe that this road should only be built after there is major investment in the rail network which just isn't going to happen.

You literally have no shame. How are you continuing to to say this bullsh**t??

... Dude? What is your problem. I'm 18 years old, I'm doing VCE at the moment, I was born on the 28/08/96, why do you believe I would lie about that? What would I stand to gain? You are such a creep.

You unknowingly made your personal email address public on your account so that everybody could see your Facebook profile which contained your personal info as well as photographs of yourself, your wife and other friends and relatives. This is widely known and was discussed a few months ago, and only after I brought it up did you remove your email address (wisely so) from public view, and then attempted to argue a very strange and nonsensical defense of your alleged character, which nobody believed.

I have absolutely no idea what you "stand to gain" from your actions, because you are not the only middle aged man on this forum, and this forum doesn't have an upper age restriction. But it's really, really weird.

(Posting a random alleged birth date in full only reinforces the case against you).

Wow? Like, yes you saw an email address but did you see the email address contained the name 'Harry' and '96' and the Facebook account was called 'Bruce', now knowing this maybe I helped my dad set up his Facebook account and used one of my many email addresses to do so? ing moron.
17  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 22, 2014, 10:37:55 am
Well I can't remember back to the 2006 election as I was only 10 and really my memory of 2014 is hazy. However, my problem with the whole process going on now and the fact that this wasn't an election promise and therefore it should be taken to the electorate. Tbh, I've probably got most of the facts wrong however, I still believe that this road should only be built after there is major investment in the rail network which just isn't going to happen.

You literally have no shame. How are you continuing to to say this bullsh**t??

... Dude? What is your problem. I'm 18 years old, I'm doing VCE at the moment, I was born on the 28/08/96, why do you believe I would lie about that? What would I stand to gain? You are such a creep.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Victorian State Parliamentary Election - 29 November 2014 on: September 22, 2014, 04:53:32 am
No matter who wins, we all lose as Napthine and Andrews are among the worst this state has to offer.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 19, 2014, 02:32:59 am
This is how freedom dies.

This is a prime example of freedom, you absolute dumb .
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: PM Series: Question 21 on: September 18, 2014, 07:09:23 am
Agree/ Critical issue
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: CO-Quinnipac: Gardner +8 on: September 18, 2014, 07:06:22 am
...

Either Udall is ed or Quinnipac is ed in the head. I lean towards the later...
22  General Politics / Economics / Re: 2013: Panama has highest level of well-being, Afghanistan & Syria the lowest on: September 16, 2014, 11:44:17 pm
Yes, I'm sure life is better in Mexico than it is in Australia. ..
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: KY Senate Race 2014: Getting lucky in Kentucky on: September 16, 2014, 04:23:29 am
Yeah, that ad is very questionable.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why the Clinton hype? on: September 15, 2014, 09:40:47 am
Wicked witch of the White House = No thanks.

That may seem funny to you but to many calling her a witch is sexist.
25  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which show has a higher percentage of good episodes? on: September 15, 2014, 02:44:28 am
Simpsons is an icon of the 20th and 21st Century, no show has reached it's peak and no show ever will. Comparing FG to the Simpsons is ridiculous.
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