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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: Today at 09:37:07 am
If you think carefully, this discussion doesn't have anything to do with Australia at all.

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Everyone, put him on ignore, and unlike me idiotically just now, don't feel tempted to click 'show'.

I finally just did that, I seriously don't understand why this German is so interested in me? Like, seriously?

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Do you all reckon that with NZ pushing for a flag change, Australia might actually soon?
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 22, 2014, 08:18:17 pm
Well I can't remember back to the 2006 election as I was only 10 and really my memory of 2014 is hazy. However, my problem with the whole process going on now and the fact that this wasn't an election promise and therefore it should be taken to the electorate. Tbh, I've probably got most of the facts wrong however, I still believe that this road should only be built after there is major investment in the rail network which just isn't going to happen.

You literally have no shame. How are you continuing to to say this bullsh**t??

... Dude? What is your problem. I'm 18 years old, I'm doing VCE at the moment, I was born on the 28/08/96, why do you believe I would lie about that? What would I stand to gain? You are such a creep.

You unknowingly made your personal email address public on your account so that everybody could see your Facebook profile which contained your personal info as well as photographs of yourself, your wife and other friends and relatives. This is widely known and was discussed a few months ago, and only after I brought it up did you remove your email address (wisely so) from public view, and then attempted to argue a very strange and nonsensical defense of your alleged character, which nobody believed.

I have absolutely no idea what you "stand to gain" from your actions, because you are not the only middle aged man on this forum, and this forum doesn't have an upper age restriction. But it's really, really weird.

(Posting a random alleged birth date in full only reinforces the case against you).

Wow? Like, yes you saw an email address but did you see the email address contained the name 'Harry' and '96' and the Facebook account was called 'Bruce', now knowing this maybe I helped my dad set up his Facebook account and used one of my many email addresses to do so? ing moron.
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 22, 2014, 10:37:55 am
Well I can't remember back to the 2006 election as I was only 10 and really my memory of 2014 is hazy. However, my problem with the whole process going on now and the fact that this wasn't an election promise and therefore it should be taken to the electorate. Tbh, I've probably got most of the facts wrong however, I still believe that this road should only be built after there is major investment in the rail network which just isn't going to happen.

You literally have no shame. How are you continuing to to say this bullsh**t??

... Dude? What is your problem. I'm 18 years old, I'm doing VCE at the moment, I was born on the 28/08/96, why do you believe I would lie about that? What would I stand to gain? You are such a creep.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Victorian State Parliamentary Election - 29 November 2014 on: September 22, 2014, 04:53:32 am
No matter who wins, we all lose as Napthine and Andrews are among the worst this state has to offer.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 19, 2014, 02:32:59 am
This is how freedom dies.

This is a prime example of freedom, you absolute dumb .
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: PM Series: Question 21 on: September 18, 2014, 07:09:23 am
Agree/ Critical issue
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: CO-Quinnipac: Gardner +8 on: September 18, 2014, 07:06:22 am
...

Either Udall is ed or Quinnipac is ed in the head. I lean towards the later...
8  General Politics / Economics / Re: 2013: Panama has highest level of well-being, Afghanistan & Syria the lowest on: September 16, 2014, 11:44:17 pm
Yes, I'm sure life is better in Mexico than it is in Australia. ..
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: KY Senate Race 2014: Getting lucky in Kentucky on: September 16, 2014, 04:23:29 am
Yeah, that ad is very questionable.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why the Clinton hype? on: September 15, 2014, 09:40:47 am
Wicked witch of the White House = No thanks.

That may seem funny to you but to many calling her a witch is sexist.
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which show has a higher percentage of good episodes? on: September 15, 2014, 02:44:28 am
Simpsons is an icon of the 20th and 21st Century, no show has reached it's peak and no show ever will. Comparing FG to the Simpsons is ridiculous.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: ME-PPP/MCVAF: Michaud+1 on: September 15, 2014, 02:41:23 am
Cutler is one selfish prick.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NC-Elon University: Hagan leads by 4% on: September 15, 2014, 01:15:09 am
Hagan is obviously an excellent campaigner because all indicators point to the fact that the Republicans should be winning this.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why the Clinton hype? on: September 15, 2014, 12:01:39 am
Obama is perceived as a 'weak' President, alternatively, Hillary comes across strong and powerful which is something the Democrats are looking for.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 14, 2014, 10:24:07 am
I think the key difference is that the Liberals *are* campaigning on the East West link this time around - so campaign on it without signing contracts weeks out from the election.

Not about to defend Labor, just purely a point about the Liberals, not even about the E/W link itself. If it's a major part of your campaign, let the people vote before you sign off on it.



This is what I'm saying. It's ridiculous to commit billions of dollars for an election pledge before an election.
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 14, 2014, 09:36:23 am
Well I can't remember back to the 2006 election as I was only 10 and really my memory of 2014 is hazy. However, my problem with the whole process going on now and the fact that this wasn't an election promise and therefore it should be taken to the electorate. Tbh, I've probably got most of the facts wrong however, I still believe that this road should only be built after there is major investment in the rail network which just isn't going to happen.
17  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: If you could move the Florida capital to another city...? on: September 14, 2014, 06:09:23 am
The moon.
18  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 14, 2014, 04:50:48 am
The desalination plant at the time it was built made sense - did you forget how low dam levels are? The panic over the Muray-Darling? The thing he has said though is that - if the legal challenge fails Labor will go ahead, if not they will scrap the projects. And if the legal challenge is a success only then will they build it. However, this doesn't have to be like this - the government could wait 2 months, and if they win, then sign the contracts. Also, if the Liberals were so concerned about the bottom line, why are the spending millions of the states money advertising state projects?
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary run looking more and more likely on: September 14, 2014, 01:46:48 am
If Hillary does run, she needs to try and win the support of the media who in the past and even recently have been unprecedented cunts towards her.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders backs Obama on ISIS on: September 14, 2014, 01:45:41 am
So almost 2 years after she left the state department people are beginning to realise Hillary was right all along...

Right about what?  That intervening earlier, deposing Assad, and letting ISIS take Syria was the right course of action?  

Free Syrian Army does not equal ISIS.
Maybe not, but they clearly had a number of members who were jihadists, as evidenced by their killing of religious minorities and the fact that a bunch of then-FSA fighters have now defected to ISIS.

The FSA leader clearly stated they had no other goals except the removal of Assad.

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/the-free-syrian-army-doesnt-exist/


This is from 2013, Hillary had been calling for something to happen in Syria since mid-2011.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders backs Obama on ISIS on: September 14, 2014, 12:08:20 am
So almost 2 years after she left the state department people are beginning to realise Hillary was right all along...

Right about what?  That intervening earlier, deposing Assad, and letting ISIS take Syria was the right course of action?  

Free Syrian Army does not equal ISIS.
Maybe not, but they clearly had a number of members who were jihadists, as evidenced by their killing of religious minorities and the fact that a bunch of then-FSA fighters have now defected to ISIS.

The FSA leader clearly stated they had no other goals except the removal of Assad. These religious minorities they were 'attacking' where Alawhites who blindly and stupidly follow and supported every move Assad made, and let's not act like Assad didn't target the Sunni majority during the war and before *cough*sarin gas attacks*cough* If the FSA has become radicalised it's only been in recent times and due to the lack of international support - but that isn't even what has happened considering they are vehemently opposed to the IS.
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 13, 2014, 08:50:50 pm
The Desal contract may have been signed well before the election, but at the previous election, Labor had said that they would not build a Desal plant, and rubbished the Liberal water policy for proposing to build one. Labor didn't have the guts to take that horrendous contract to the people, they just built it and put that millstone around the necks of Victorians. By comparison, nobody ruled out East West Link prior to the last election. Furthermore, funding was announced in the 2013/14 Budget - eighteen months ago. There has been a process. It's not a last-minute thought-bubble, raced through before the election. There is already a caretaker period before an election, in which a Government cannot make decisions which bind a future Government. That already exists, it's a long-established tradition of the Westminster system. You are proposing changing that - pushing it back to two Budgets prior to an election in a four-year term.

If this was like the GST, or the Carbon Tax, where there had been an unequivocal statement of the Government explicitly ruling it out, than yes, the Government should then not change a clearly stated and committed policy - it would need to be taken to the electorate. There was no such statement prior to the 2010 election, there is no need to delay a policy that has already seen substantial planning and pre-development work.

Labor has previously supported East West Link. When the Government announced Stage 1, which will complete the Eastern half of the missing link, Labor said that the priority should be the Western half. When the Government announced Stage 2, the Western half of the missing link, Labor suddenly opposed the whole project. Here is an endorsement from the Leader of the Opposition for Stage 2 of the East West Link, which he now opposes, taken from his address to the Press Club:

Quote from: Daniel Andrews
I think a second river crossing, an important redundancy for the West Gate Bridge and a link direct into the port is a stronger project.

Stronger when you consider the productivity benefits and stronger when you acknowledge that the funds are of course limited.

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A backup for the West Gate which currently handles more than 165 000 vehicles a day as well as the significant commercial and residential growth in the west makes the case compelling.

'West-east' is the way this project should be viewed.

You will note that he even acknowledges the productivity benefits of East West Link.

What we can see from this is that Labor's opposition to East West Link is not from a policy perspective, not a measured and considered position - it's more about fighting off the threat of the Greens in the inner-city seats. That's why Daniel Andrews will say and do anything on East West Link now, like trash Victoria's reputation in international investment markets by proposing to tear up contracts between the State and industry, which would result in less value for money in future infrastructure projects.

This is why the announcement by Daniel Andrews has little to do with East West Link as a policy and more to do with his character and his judgement and the sorts of decisions he makes.

I think the people see through it, too. There was a Morgan poll on Friday - "Regardless of who you intend to vote for at the State Election in November, should the construction of the East-West Tunnel link proceed?" - which found that almost two-thirds (63.5%) of voters support the Tunnel construction, including more than half of voters supporting Labor. Victorians, including Labor voters, don't want Daniel Andrews to trash the State's reputation for his own political gain.

Daniel Andrews is willing to risk jobs, infrastructure improvements, productivity gains and the State's reputation in his desperate gamble for votes.

You're missing the point, both parties supported the desal. Only one atm, with a slim majority and no mandate supports E/W link - it's a policy that should be taken to the election, Victoria's reputation will not be damaged if it is taken to the election, it's as simple as that.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders backs Obama on ISIS on: September 13, 2014, 08:45:45 pm
So almost 2 years after she left the state department people are beginning to realise Hillary was right all along...

Right about what?  That intervening earlier, deposing Assad, and letting ISIS take Syria was the right course of action? 

Free Syrian Army does not equal ISIS.
24  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Would Edward Snowden deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? on: September 13, 2014, 09:50:07 am
The only thing he deserves is a drone missile.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which city would you rather live in? on: September 13, 2014, 08:34:10 am
Isn't violence in Chicago a big issue?
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