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 on: Today at 08:56:51 am 
Started by politicus - Last post by Swedish Austerity Cheese
I also agree as far as the Progress Party goes, they are a different thing compared to SD. But what is PS except stricter immigration, anti-EU, and anti mandatory Swedish in Finnish schools? Besides the mandatory Swedish thing, those are the exact same pillars as SD stands on. I doubt that there is anyone who really votes for Soini except for those issues. And I'm aware that PS casts itself as the defenders of the welfare state and the working man and what not., but so does SD. That's (as you noted) hardly the reason their voters vote for them.

There are actually plenty of people who voted for PS because of welfare issues and rural issues. Take for example, the party's strongest municipality, Kihniö, where the party got 53 percent in 2011 and 48 percent in 2015. Almost all of that is support for a former Rural Party (Finns Party's predecessor) politician Lea Mäkipää who was elected Finns Party MP in 2011 and who hardly even speaks about immigration but rather about welfare issues and services in the rural ares. Furthermore, in the Kihniö council the local Finns Party group actually supported establishing a refugee accomodation centre in the municipality (even if they qualified it by saying that they wanted to choose what kind of refugees are coming).

If it were rural issues they might as well vote for the Centre Party, and if it were welfare there are two left-wing parties. The fact that individual politicians have shifted for one or another reason doesn't really prove that PS is different from SD. There was a prolific local Moderate politician who became an MP for SD because he felt SD had better Defense policy and didn't like the Moderates cuts to the military. A parliamentary candidate for the Christian Democrats switched because she felt SD was more anti-abortion. That doesn't mean that more than a handful people actually cast their votes for SD because the military, or that many people did so because of their view on abortion. Likewise the people who voted for PS because the Social Democrats or the Left Alliance are to Green must be neglectful at best.

There are people that vote for SD for all kinds of strange reasons, but 90% of those who do, have immigration and the EU as their reason. The same I'm certain is true for PS.

 on: Today at 08:56:46 am 
Started by Mr. Morden - Last post by Sibboleth
So Carson is basically the candidate of the people who leave comments on YouTube videos? Interesting.

 on: Today at 08:54:09 am 
Started by Wulfric - Last post by TDAS04

 on: Today at 08:54:09 am 
Started by Speaker Cris - Last post by Speaker Cris
I started various threads on the following matters:

- Structure and size of the Senate;
- Structure, size and powers of Presidency and Vice Presidency;
- Powers of fed. govt (Senate) and reg. govts;
- Federal elections (President, Senate);
- Number of regions and regional governments;
- Diplomatic relationships with other countries;
- Wiping current laws.

I don't want to overloop a lot of matters, so threads about ban of holding offices and separation of Church and State will be opened in the next days, not now. I hope you'll understand.

Other matters that are inserted in the Constitution and that might be discussed soon (if delegates want):

- Separation of Church and State and generally people's rights;
- Ban of holding offices in other nations;
- Structure, size and powers of Cabinet;
- Structure, size and powers of Court;
- New Constitutional Convention;
- Candidacy and Office Holding Rules;
- Voter Registration and Voting Rules;
- Other things.

 on: Today at 08:53:25 am 
Started by Wulfric - Last post by TDAS04
Graham, easily. Let's not be stupid.

 on: Today at 08:52:30 am 
Started by low-energy loser evergreen - Last post by Unbiased
Apart from the remark, his inability to put together a coherent sentence is rather problematic to his chances of convincing people to vote for him.

 on: Today at 08:52:28 am 
Started by TDAS04 - Last post by TDAS04

 on: Today at 08:50:58 am 
Started by Crab - Last post by weixiaobao
This is just his campaign, right? Not including PACs?

Because Perry and Walker's PAC didn't do much to save either's campaigns.

 on: Today at 08:48:20 am 
Started by TDAS04 - Last post by Torie
Is politcus under some kind of stress? Threatening posters with physical harm or stalking is a very serious matter, and cannot stand. Surely politicus knows that. We've had a recent precedent.

 on: Today at 08:48:16 am 
Started by TDAS04 - Last post by TDAS04

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