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 on: Today at 07:24:39 am 
Started by 4U9525 - Last post by Gravis Marketing
Ithaca is very liberal, and it's not just students.

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 on: Today at 07:24:22 am 
Started by NewYorkExpress - Last post by Citizen Castro
You guys really do want a corrupt, incompetent old hag as President dont you? Obviously there is no integrity left in the Dem party. All that matters is winning. The fact that the left sticks with Hillary rather than go with Warren or O'Malley show the Dem party is all about winning no matter what the consequences to the country or their party.

It's simple, the consequences of not winning means someone like Bush, Walker, Rubio, or Paul wins.

Cant Warren win or OMalley?

Clinton is actually my third choice. I am supporting Walker or Rubio. But I am convinced that Clinton's presidency would be such a disaster for the Dem party, we'll see the number of elected GOP officials at levels not seen since reconstruction.

Regardless of whether O'Malley or Warren could win, all that matters is that people think they'd have a harder time in the general than Clinton. You can't reasonably claim with such certainty that a Clinton presidency would hurt the Democrats, but you could certainly argue that a Walker presidency instead would hurt the country. I care much more about the condition of the country than of its political parties.

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 on: Today at 07:23:42 am 
Started by Brewer - Last post by Charlotte Hebdo
Socialist Alternative has a completely wrong position on police officers (it regards them as 'workers in uniform', IIRC), is too tepid on the Israel-Palestine issue, and has a tendency to engage in economistic deviations from genuine Marxism.

The horror!

What the heck is "economistic deviations"?

Presumably this

I see. Basically caring about the living conditions of real workers instead of preparing for the glorious revolution.

"the Economists belittled the significance of revolutionary theory and class-consciousness, asserted that socialist ideology could emerge from the spontaneous movement, denied the need for a Marxist party to instil socialist consciousness into the working-class movement, and thereby cleared the way for bourgeois ideology"

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 on: Today at 07:17:05 am 
Started by Brewer - Last post by President bore
Socialist Alternative has a completely wrong position on police officers (it regards them as 'workers in uniform', IIRC), is too tepid on the Israel-Palestine issue, and has a tendency to engage in economistic deviations from genuine Marxism.

The horror!

What the heck is "economistic deviations"?

Presumably this

 5 
 on: Today at 07:14:02 am 
Started by Antonio V - Last post by CrabCake
...any legal system where rich people are able to buy more/better legal representation than poor people is incompatible with most basic ideas of liberal democracy.

 6 
 on: Today at 07:13:32 am 
Started by RR1997 - Last post by muon2
Subatomic particles that generally only appear in cosmic rays and from the decay of mesons and heavy quarks created in particle accelerators.

 7 
 on: Today at 07:08:39 am 
Started by Brewer - Last post by Charlotte Hebdo
Socialist Alternative has a completely wrong position on police officers (it regards them as 'workers in uniform', IIRC), is too tepid on the Israel-Palestine issue, and has a tendency to engage in economistic deviations from genuine Marxism.

The horror!

What the heck is "economistic deviations"?

 8 
 on: Today at 07:07:03 am 
Started by Zen Lunatic - Last post by Jim Bolivar di Griz
Bold pick for sure.

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 on: Today at 07:06:05 am 
Started by Governor TDAS04 - Last post by muon2
Captain Kangaroo

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q3w7w58CREY?feature=player_embedded

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 on: Today at 07:03:52 am 
Started by Jim Bolivar di Griz - Last post by Jim Bolivar di Griz
And here's a historical performance of candidates of all four major parliamentary parties:


PO:

2005:
Donald Tusk: 5,429,666    (36.3%) - first round, 1st place; 7,022,319 (45.96%) - defeated

2010:
Bronisław Komorowski: 6,981,319 (41.54%) - first round, 1st place; 8,933,887 (53.01%) - elected


PiS:   

2005:
Lech Kaczyński: 4,947,927 (33.1%) - first round, 2nd place; 8,257,468   (54.04%) - elected

2010:
Jarosław Kaczyński: 6,128,255 (36.46%) - first round, 2nd place; 7,919,134 (46.99%) - defeated


SLD:

1990:
Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz: 1,514,025 (9.2%) - first round, 4th place

1995:
Aleksander Kwaśniewski: 6,275,670 (35.1%) - first round, 1st place; 9,704,439 (51.7%) - elected

2000:
Aleksander Kwaśniewski: 9,485,224 (53.9%) - elected without a runoff

2005:
Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz dropped out before the election, leaving SLD without their own candidate. Some supported Marek Borowski of SdPl, who got 1,544,642 (10.3%) in the first round and 4th place

2010:
Grzegorz Napieralski: 2,299,870 (13.68%) - first round, 3rd place


PSL:

1990: Roman Bartoszcze: 1,176,175 (7.2%) - first round, 5th place

1995: Waldemar Pawlak: 770,419   (4.3%) - first round, 5th place

2000: Jarosław Kalinowski: 1,047,949 (5.95%) - 4th place

2005: Jarosław Kalinowski: 269,316 (1.8%) - first round, 5th place

2010: Waldemar Pawlak: 294,273   (1.75%) - first round, 5th place

As you can see, PSL is never doing "well" in the presidential election. In fact the only time their considered result as "success" was 2000, when Kalinowski surpassed 5%, which is a parliamentary threshold. In 2010 there were jokes when Pawlak came after Korwin.

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