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 on: Today at 06:36:17 pm 
Started by JGibson - Last post by JGibson
You only have a few hours left to cast your votes in the Northern Election and the Federal races. Vote Labor candidates up and down the ballot and me for a seat in the Northern Assembly!

- Northern Assembly Member JGibson.

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 on: Today at 06:35:40 pm 
Started by JoshPA - Last post by President François de la Rocque
I don't even think Kasich could win a Republican primary in Ohio anymore.
^^^^

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 on: Today at 06:35:12 pm 
Started by Melior - Last post by ExtremeRepublican
Let me solve this ongoing Eharding-RINO Tom debate on who the real conservatives are: neither of you are real conservatives.  In fact, no one with a negative social score should call themselves a conservative.  In fact, if any of the following are true, you are not a true conservative:

-I think free trade is a net negative for America
-I think abortion should be allowed in most or all cases
-I would rather have unrestricted privacy, even if it compromises public safety
-I believe that there are more than two genders
-I voted for Donald Trump in the primaries
-I did not vote for Donald Trump in the general election
-My social score is below a +5
-My economic score is below a +5

Let me solve this ongoing Eharding-RINO Tom debate on who the real conservatives are: neither of you are real conservatives.  In fact, no one with a negative social score should call themselves a conservative.  In fact, if any of the following are true, you are not a true conservative:

-I think free trade is a net negative for America
-I think abortion should be allowed in most or all cases
-I would rather have unrestricted privacy, even if it compromises public safety
-I believe that there are more than two genders
-I voted for Donald Trump in the primaries
-I did not vote for Donald Trump in the general election
-My social score is below a +5
-My economic score is below a +5

Out of curiosity, which other users would you consider "true conservatives" on this forum?  Because the +5/+5 cutoff knocks out a ton of people.

Honestly, there aren't many on this forum.  Classic used to be, but he has gotten more populist.  You are probably in there, as is TexasConservative.  Sunrise is borderline, but he may think there are more than two genders.  The new R-FL avatar has pretty good politics too, but his econ score is a little low.  Basically, true conservatives believe in the Pence-Walker-Rubio-Cruz-McCrory ideology that isn't represented well on this forum (but that describes most of the people I know in real life).

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 on: Today at 06:35:04 pm 
Started by JoshPA - Last post by MT Treasurer
I don't even think Kasich could win a Republican primary in Ohio anymore.

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 on: Today at 06:34:02 pm 
Started by Dwarven Dragon - Last post by Scarlet Descent
I think you're all missing the bigger picture. Yes, it's pretty likely that enforcing party discipline the way Republicans did will cost us seats in the short term, but guess what, Republicans did that, and now they hold majorities in both houses and do basically what they want with it.

I think you're overstating the effects of what the GOP's discipline The party in power tends to do poorly in secondary elections, whether it's midterms, provincial elections, or the European parliament. The GOP was always going to do well in 2010 and 2014, given the maps they faced, the economic situation in 2010, the 2nd term incumbent in 2014 etc. Likewise, the Democrats ought to do very well in 2018.

The question then becomes, how did the GOP (or any party out of power) relative to expectations? The effects of discipline and the Tea Party are far more ambiguous when viewed through this framework. In the House, it looks quite effective. In the Senate, not so much. Betsy DeVos for example, wouldn't have required Mike Pence's vote if the GOP hadn't choked in Indiana and Missouri in 2012.

Party discipline is what allowed the GOP to filibuster most of Obama's agenda when they had only 41 seats in the Senate. With just one Republican defection, you could have gotten a public option through, a much bolder stimulus plan, an immigration reform, etc. After 2011, Republican discipline turned Obama into a 6-year lame-duck President despite winning reelection. Republican discipline denied him the constitutional right to appoint a justice to replace Scalia. If Republicans had acted like Democrats do, this entire Presidency would have been something completely different. Now Republican discipline (and Democratic indiscipline) allowed T***p to fill his cabinet despite some highly controversial picks, it's likely to ram through an Obamacare repeal that most Americans don't support, and I'm willing to bet that it will rubber-stamp most if not all of T***p's initiatives, even when wildly unpopular.

You think that wasn't worth losing a couple of seats in 2010 and 2012?

Thats more ideological unity and extreme partisanship then simple discipline. Your proposal would ensure that our political system remains completely dysfunctional. How about putting country before party. Making presidents lame ducks because you don't like them isn't acceptable. Blocking everything that isn't exactly what you want with only 41 senate seats and under 200 house seats isn't acceptable. Our nations partisanship is a toxic problem. We need to do what we can to alleviate it, not double down on it. Learn to accept that sometimes what you want isn't what you get. Learn to accept that legitimate debate means you sometimes lose. Or at least change your avatar to the party that you seem to seem to consider more important then your country.

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 on: Today at 06:33:56 pm 
Started by Melior - Last post by nclib
I can more easily understand/respect Romney/Clinton voters than Obama/Trump voters.

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 on: Today at 06:33:35 pm 
Started by Bosse - Last post by Admiral President
Not too well, she hasn't made a name for herself on a national level.

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 on: Today at 06:33:06 pm 
Started by Mondale Won 1 State - Last post by 0% Approval Rating
He referenced an episode of Tucker Carlson which discussed Sweden.

Maybe he should better stop watching Tucker Carlson then... and pay intention to his intelligence briefings for a change.
In the episode he was describing the dramatic increase in crime that happened in Sweden.

...using figures which are blatantly untrue.

According to the National Council for Crime Prevention there's a trend which shows that the use of lethal violence is dropping, and while there was a slight 2% uptick for assault in 2015, rape dropped by 12%. There are also no so-called "No-Go Zones" in Sweden, a story which seems to have its roots in various far-right conspiracy theories who sometimes use a report by the Swedish police as "evidence". The problem is that that specific report cites areas of special focus for the police, and the areas it talks about are actually the total opposite of "no-go zones", they're areas which are getting increased priority and increased police presence. There is also no proof that refugees are responsible for any uptick in crime, and the head of the police's National Operational Unit has stated that refugees are only involved in a small number of police cases in Sweden.

Would have surprised me had it been any different.

In 2015, the year Angela Merkel opened (or rather didn't close, since they were already open) the borders for a million refugees, the total number of rapes in Germany decreased by 4.4% according to the Federal Criminal Police's statistics.

Goes without saying, perception is everything.

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 on: Today at 06:32:40 pm 
Started by Senator LLR - Last post by L.D. Smith
Proud to say that I have never used drugs in my life and never will to the day I die.  The same is true for alcohol.

Are you a virgin too?

This isn't a bad thing.



Now, as for me, thanks to a decent turn of events, I'm getting ready to get rid of my old car...thanks goodness, I'm tired of replacing belts and shocks and all that other crap.

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 on: Today at 06:31:56 pm 
Started by JoshPA - Last post by Vosem
It's pretty clear here in Ohio that Josh Mandel is definitely running for the Senate seat, and Pat Tiberi may be challenging him in the primary. That's it.

Kasich is probably scoping out a 2020 challenge to Trump.

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