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I can understand how people wouldn't want to add anything to something as natural as water.  If the concern stopped there, I could even get behind that thought.

What I don't get is why there is so much hostility to facts, logic, and reason on the extremes of the political spectrum.  If the "establishment" you are fighting against is monied corporate interests or an over-reaching government or the military-industrial complex, go ahead and fight the power.  But since when did the "establishment" become the fields of science, history, and public health?

The right-wing factory machine receives more raw materials to fashion into a Politico headline.

[the temple properties in Kirtland and Independence are not owned by the Mormons but by a different branch of the LDS movement, the Community of Christ. CoC is the branch that considered Joseph Smith III instead of Brigham Young to be Joseph Smith Jr's successor and is the second largest LDS church.]

Illinois would possibly be a swing state if we assume no Mormon migration, as I believe there are some areas there that Mormons consider their 'holy land.'

Close but no cigar. (Of course Mormons don't want cigars.) Nauvoo, Illinois is important but Independence, Missouri is the location of where the City of Zion will be in the last days. Kirtland, Ohio is also of some importance as the site of Joseph Smith's first temple. Incidentally, the temple properties in Kirtland and Independence are not owned by the Mormons but by a different branch of the LDS movement, the Community of Christ. CoC is the branch that considered Joseph Smith III instead of Brigham Young to be Joseph Smith Jr's successor and is the second largest LDS church.

My mother's family is CoC so I was more or less raised in that church for several years. A couple of my mom's siblings even worked as tour guides at the Kirtland and Independence temples some summers as college students (my mom was never terribly devout).

I tend to think that had the mass exodus to "Deseret" (Utah) never happened, the Mormons would look more like Community of Christ does today - much smaller, without the distinct culture. CoC at this point is basically a mainline Protestant denomination. They consider themselves a "peace church" and aren't particularly dogmatic on cultural issues like abortion and homosexuality. The congregation my family attended did not even use the Book of Mormon - it was in the pews next to The Bible and the hymnals but sermons never incorporated it and we were never taught about it in Sunday School. I think part of the reason for this is that unlike the LDS church, CoC members were always a minority in predominantly Protestant areas and thus adapted and evolved to avoid the discrimination Mormons had suffered earlier.

Googled, found it around 2010, lurked for a year or so, joined.

More riots going on tonight, now in Botkyrka and Malmö as well.

Sigh, obviously these people will only end up making things worse for themselves, why don't they understand that?

It's hard to imagine a better course of action for the rioters. They're systematically excluded from society and as a result face tremendous limitations in the political sphere that prevent legal action. Protests would presumably be met with jeers and insults; a party based on immigrant identity would be powerless. Not an insight but I think it's important to point out.

Nay

I don't even know what the guy is trying to say. The article says he said "How'd they know 10 days after the bin Laden raid that it was Seal Team Six?" or something like that. I don't even know what that means.

He's saying the administration didn't keep secret what unit was involved in the raid against bin Laden, and that retaliation against them is what led the helicopter carrying his son and other SEAL members to be shot down by the Taliban a few months later.

Should Governor NVGonzalez be recalled?

[X]- Yes
[ ]- No

If the Governor is Recalled who should replace him as Governor?
[1] Progressive Realist
[2] Spamage
[3] 20RP12

A what? Max chairs this committee.

I have contacted the Justice committee chair if it's the appropriate committee.    

I answered you on that, but I doubt it's in the Judiciary committee powers anyways, unless it's considered related to regional law enforcement, which I doubt.

Anyways, the committee is busy until next Suday, we already are in the impeachment hearings of the Supreme Court Justices (which weren't my choice).

Is it not a legal matter by nature? As I said, we could possible take over for the Judiciary since we are only minimally engaged at present, provided the members agree of course.