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News: Don't forget to get your 2013 Gubernatorial Endorsements and Predictions in!

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 on: Today at 02:18:38 pm 
Started by TDAS04 - Last post by CrabCake
In other words: "Are you a Democrat or a Republican?"

 on: Today at 02:18:17 pm 
Started by Lіef - Last post by Assemblyman Cassius
Yes, it's not a particularly good post, one which doesn't make much sense and could be construed as offensive to some people (although I highly doubt many of them are posting on Atlas).

It should be offensive to anyone who is a halfway decent person.

Well, it's a little distasteful, certainly. But I only take offense to hurtful comments aimed directly at me or people who I'm close to. I mean, try as I might, I just can't feel offended by this. Its not really my place to be offended by it.

 on: Today at 02:17:33 pm 
Started by Tender Branson - Last post by Torie
Scotland really does have marvelous architecture. Pity it does not make up for its suck climate, but I digress.

 on: Today at 02:17:17 pm 
Started by Meursault - Last post by NE Rep SWE
the Emancipation Proclamation freed all slaves on American soil immediately

Was your history education that poor?

*in the slave states

Good to see this forum is as pedantic as ever. My point is that the Emancipation Proclamation is an example of a piece of policy that had a more-or-less instantaneous effect and one which would have no direct carry-over into any subsequent administration.
They were a separate country. The Emancipation Proclamation did nothing outside of keeping the British out of the war.
2,000-5,000 slaves in occupied territories were immediately freed, and more than 3 million slaves were eventually freed by the Proclamation. To say the Proclamation did nothing is simply ignorant to history.

 on: Today at 02:17:06 pm 
Started by Lіef - Last post by Gustaf
While I think Singer is guilty of holding outrageous gay sex parties with young men, I don't think he's a rapist.

A 17 year old who willing goes to not just one of these things but apparently attended a few of Singer's (and apparently Roland Emmerich's) parties and did drugs every time probably should know what was going to happen to him. If he really felt in danger or exploited, he should've not attended or gone to the police after the first incident. The fact that he waited 15 years to do this says a lot to me, too.

He's probably just interested in money because his aspiring acting career didn't work out.

I guess it's a positive for gender equality that victim-blaming doesn't happen only to women these days? :/

Also, it's sad to see the rest of the forum prude brigade lament this as a crime. Clearly shows how much this forum lacks opebo's presence.

 on: Today at 02:16:33 pm 
Started by Keystone Phil - Last post by Lіef
Wow, Guardiola's really done a number on Bayern. A shadow of last year's dominant team.

 on: Today at 02:16:19 pm 
Started by Tender Branson - Last post by afleitch

 on: Today at 02:14:23 pm 
Started by Senator Lumine - Last post by Senator Lumine
Updated Cast:

GM: LumineVonReuental
Assistant GM: Windjammer:

Current Players and Leaders:

Prime Minister Waldeck-Rousseau: Dr. Cynic. (1901- )
Tsar Nicholas II: Snowstalker. (1901- )
Emperor Mutsuhito: SJoyce. (1901- )
Sultan Abdul Hamid II: Kalwejt. (1901- )
King Vittorio Emmanuele III: Sawx. (1901- )
President William McKinley: Clarence. (1901- )
Kaiser Wilhelm III: TheCranberry. (1902- )
Kaiser Franz Ferdinand I: Oldiesfreak. (1903- )
Prime Minister ¿_____?: Spamage. (1903- )

Old Players and Leaders:

Kaiser Wilhelm II: IBDD. (1901-1902)
Kaiser Franz Joseph I: Jack Enderman. (1901-1902)
Prime Minister Salisbury: Spamage. (1901-1903)

 on: Today at 02:14:10 pm 
Started by Lіef - Last post by Lіef
Yes, it's not a particularly good post, one which doesn't make much sense and could be construed as offensive to some people (although I highly doubt many of them are posting on Atlas).

It should be offensive to anyone who is a halfway decent person.

 on: Today at 02:13:14 pm 
Started by Swedish Cheese - Last post by Antonio V
Sorry if I sound pedantic here, but what would "modern conservative" entail, as you see it? I.e., comparable to what foreign parties? Wouldn't they still overlap quite a lot with Moderaterna?

Same question.

You seem to assume that Moderaterna is a conservative party these days...

I mean taking actual conservative positions. Like, cutting taxes and opposing a large welfare state. Wanting a strong defence. Being a little bit patriotic, perhaps favouring some restrictions on immigration.

Moderaterna is doing none of that at the moment, which is why another party could take it.

But isn't M's centrist turn a consequence of the fact that such a "conservative" party would just never manage to become electorally competitive? Pre-2006 electoral history would point in that direction. Tongue

You're taking the wrong attitude. Pre 2006-M usually raked in about 20% of the vote. I think KD would be pretty happy with half of that. Tongue

Well, they certainly could get up to 20% (that's what the FrP did in Norway, after all), but even if they did, there's no way they'd get enough support from other parties to lead a government or to push economic policy massively to the right. Thank God Sweden doesn't have a two-party system. Wink In order to really hold power for a significant amount of time, you need to get at least as centrist as M did.

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