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 on: Today at 07:39:10 am 
Started by TN volunteer - Last post by TN volunteer
And so it begins....

In a Washington Post interview, presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump indicated that he is tentatively exploring one of the most infamous conspiracy theories about Bill Clinton’s presidency as he readies his general election battle plan against Hillary Clinton. In the interview, Trump called theories that the Clintons were behind the 1993 death of deputy White House counsel Vince Foster “very serious,” calling the circumstances of his suicide “very fishy.” “He had intimate knowledge of what was going on,” Trump said. “He knew everything that was going on and then all of a sudden he committed suicide.”



 on: Today at 07:38:49 am 
Started by Wulfric - Last post by tēyōllohcuāni
wait, there are people here who didn't have icespear on ignore? Huh

 on: Today at 07:34:21 am 
Started by Franzl - Last post by tēyōllohcuāni
Don't see what the problem is. The leader of the German Muslim Council thinks he's entitled to change the AfD program as he sees fit and simultaneously link the party to Hitler and the Holocaust. There really is no basis for discussion there.

Well, everyone is entitled to say the truth. Sorry if that triggers you.

I know the words "fascist" and "Nazi" are thrown around by the left like they're going out of business but it would suit you and your ilk well to take a step back and look at what you are actually saying when you're accusing the AfD of being a Third Reich party. You are implying that the AfD advocates or would at least tacitly support the murder/forced deportation of 4 million Muslims in Germany. Think about that for a moment. That is a ridiculous charge. As a matter of fact I think anyone making such a claim should get their ass sued for libel. The AfD is right to take such an uncompromising stance on the issue. It's time to stop the casual accusation of perfectly decent people as Nazis.

when the platform says "islam does not belong to germany", what exactly do you think that entails?

I'd say there are a variety of different positions that you can take between "Islam is a part of Germany" (as claimed by the former president) and "gas all Muslims." This part of the platform IMO is just a response to the aforementioned claim by various politicians about Islam being a part of Germany. Personally, I think they could have avoided phrasing it like that because some people see it in a vacuum and immediately jump to conclusions instead of recognizing it as the mere counterpoint that it actually is. The inherent problem has always been that the folks who claim that Islam is a part of Germany don't actually expand on that assertion. Is it part of our culture? If yes, what are the Islamic elements of contemporary German culture aside from döner kebab? Or are we just referring to the simple fact that Muslims are living in Germany, hence Islam is a part of Germany just as is the case with Buddhism, Shinto etc.?

So as long as their platform fails to call for the expulsion/murder of Muslims, I'd appreciate if people refrained from comparing the party to the NSDAP.
you are evading the question.
1) doesn't "islam does not belong to germany" logically imply support of a germany without islam, and why/why not?
2) if so, how do you (or the afd) propose to reach such a state?
clear and straightforward answers, please.

 on: Today at 07:30:50 am 
Started by RightBehind - Last post by True Federalist
There is another angle to this and in fact Ernest, you just did it so it makes my job on explaining this easier Smiley! You demonstrated a ‘highly counterintuitive’ notion of god, when defending the concept. There is no physical, philosophical or scientific sword by which you can puncture god. There he has been moulded. There has been made untouchable.

But the untouchable doesn’t really provide succour does it? If you describe to someone the omniscient, omnipresent concept of god, you might impress them, but you will struggle to get the investment to sustain belief. So personal concepts of god have to be precisely that. You need the ‘minimal counterintuitive’ notion of god to make it tangible. To make the connection between the believer and the belief.

I suppose it depends on what you look for in religion. I'm looking for a guide, not a master. I'm not looking for a helicopter God who steps in all the time. I've come to appreciate the order that can be found in chaos. I realize many need a firmer conception of the Divine to find em believable, but that doesn't describe me. Incidentally, that love of the beauty to be found in chaos is precisely why I'm a theist. A deterministic universe has zero appeal to me.

 on: Today at 07:29:48 am 
Started by Heisenberg - Last post by TN volunteer
Blitzer: Now, with numbers coming in, we see that there seem to be a lot of votes for somebody who wasn't even on the ballot, Stefany Shaheen. She is the daughter of former governor and sitting Senator Jeanne Shaheen. Stefany was considered a top Democratic candidate for governor this year, but she decided not to run. Apparently, she had such a large following among women (exit polls show practically all Shaheen write-in voters are female) in the state. According to the exit polls, about 65% of them came from CD 2, with the remaining 35% from CD 1. And we can call this race for Sununu, making this the second gubernatorial pickup tonight for the Republicans.
Cooper: This is very interesting, and nobody saw this coming. I wonder if Shaheen will play a spoiler effect in the race, since it is pretty clear that all of them would have otherwise voted for Van Ostern. If Sununu fails to earn a majority, I bet people in the Van Ostern campaign will be upset. It should also be noted that the gubernatorial race was the only statewide race in New Hampshire not to have a major female candidate on the ballot. Perhaps that has something to do with it?

LMAO, this is great.

 on: Today at 07:29:04 am 
Started by White Light - Last post by Simfan34
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being prudish.

 on: Today at 07:24:18 am 
Started by politicallpd - Last post by Heisenberg
In Ohio I think Pat Tiberi would be the front runner.

 on: Today at 07:23:33 am 
Started by Tender Branson - Last post by CrabCake
If 16 year olds didn't have the vote would Hofer have won?

 on: Today at 07:16:05 am 
Started by New Hampshire Conscript - Last post by TN volunteer
What TLN and Raphael said. It basically comes down to this:

1. TN's strong Republican trend (look what happened in KY in the same election and keep in mind that TN usually doesn't vote much to the left or right of KY)
2. White Perot voters coming home for the Republican candidate
3. Clinton's unpopularity + scandals/voter fatigue
4. Gore being a terrible candidate with a phony persona + Bush being a good fit for the state
5. Gore being way to the left of the average TN voter on most issues (abortion, gun control, etc.)

That being said, Gore was able to keep it relatively close because of high Black turnout. He could have avoided getting clobbered among White voters, though.

 on: Today at 07:05:11 am 
Started by ░▒▓████▓▒░ wow neat ░▒▓████▓▒░ - Last post by TN volunteer
The most boring poster on this forum.
Somebody needed to bring him down from his high horse.

You consider this his best post? Sad! I don't know what "high horse" you are talking about, but feel free to use the ignore button if my posts bother you so much. You should know, however, that Maxwell usually gets very condescending when someone disagrees with his views or analysis. No one except for you guys seems to be paying attention to my posts.


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