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 on: Today at 03:08:13 am 
Started by SCNCmod - Last post by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└
I support Ellison because I think the Bernie side "deserves" this one.

With that said, Perez and Ellison would functionally be very similar. Ellison is still a creature of Washington. Let's not pretend that this matters very much. Come on guys.

As for the Pete guy, I have no idea who he is but the fact that his last name is "Butt" automatically disqualifies him.

It's funny because Buttigieg has been a Bernie guy for decades:

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In his senior year at St. Joseph’s High School, he was honored by Caroline Kennedy and other members of President Kennedy’s family during a May 22, 2000 ceremony at the John F. Kennedy Library for his prize-winning essay for the JFK Profiles in Courage Essay Contest. Buttigieg’s winning essay centered on the integrity and political courage demonstrated by U.S. Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont, the nation’s only Independent member of Congress

Are there indications that he isn't anymore?

He endorsed Hillary in 2016, but to be fair he waited until April 2016 when it was pretty clear Bernie wasn't going to win.

He's also less anti-business than Sanders. In particular, when it comes to the loss of manufacturing jobs, he blames automation more than NAFTA.

April was before the Indiana primary. Writing something about Bernie 16 years ago doesn't cancel out the fact that he went against his state and county in endorsing terrible Hillary.

So you're cool with your boy Ellison sipping wine with David Brock, right?

Obviously the ideal candidate would tell David Brock to go f**k himself, but that probably wouldn't be helpful for getting votes from the worthless Clinton deadwood hacks who constitute the DNC.

 62 
 on: Today at 03:07:55 am 
Started by American2020 - Last post by publicunofficial
You couldn't get 4/5 support in Congress to rename a post office, let alone go to war.

As for the second section, it'd be easy for any politician to justify any military action and make it fit the criteria in some way or another. "Last Resort" especially is a very bendable clause.

 63 
 on: Today at 03:05:21 am 
Started by Rutter - Last post by 🦀🎂
Naso (Reaaganfan), Inks, Phill, Al, BRTD, BushOK and Torie.

 64 
 on: Today at 03:03:06 am 
Started by watermelon - Last post by publicunofficial
OK now make this list again but only give reasons that Republicans would care about.

 65 
 on: Today at 03:01:26 am 
Started by ͡◔ ᴥ ͡◔ - Last post by publicunofficial
People forget how much groundswell there was for Ben Carson before Trump came and absorbed all the "political outsider" hype. We'll never know if he would've been able to sustain that excitement in a Trump-less primary.

 66 
 on: Today at 03:00:59 am 
Started by watermelon - Last post by watermelon
Elizabeth Warren tears this bum apart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3APVCLcx4U

 67 
 on: Today at 02:58:56 am 
Started by JJC - Last post by publicunofficial
He, Hillary, and Bernie were all against it. I think even Ted Cruz was against it. Even if Obama had somehow won a third term, it wouldn't have gotten through Congress. So... this is the most unsurprising news ever.

Oh come on, Hillary called it the gold standard repeatedly.

Sure, as a federal employee her job was to push the president's priorities. Once she had an independent platform, she came out against it. As I'm sure you know.

Her 2014 "Hard Choices" book supports it. And she has a prior record of privately supporting trade deals she publicly opposes.

She said she would reserve judgement in Hard Choices because the deal wasn't finalized. Regardless, she took a clear position against it and would have tanked it post-election.

Like she took a clear position against the trade agreement with Panama and Columbia while working to secure its passage?

Hillary Clinton is, for all intents and purposes, dead. Move on dude.

 68 
 on: Today at 02:57:16 am 
Started by SCNCmod - Last post by publicunofficial
I support Ellison because I think the Bernie side "deserves" this one.

With that said, Perez and Ellison would functionally be very similar. Ellison is still a creature of Washington. Let's not pretend that this matters very much. Come on guys.

As for the Pete guy, I have no idea who he is but the fact that his last name is "Butt" automatically disqualifies him.

It's funny because Buttigieg has been a Bernie guy for decades:

Quote
In his senior year at St. Joseph’s High School, he was honored by Caroline Kennedy and other members of President Kennedy’s family during a May 22, 2000 ceremony at the John F. Kennedy Library for his prize-winning essay for the JFK Profiles in Courage Essay Contest. Buttigieg’s winning essay centered on the integrity and political courage demonstrated by U.S. Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont, the nation’s only Independent member of Congress

Are there indications that he isn't anymore?

He endorsed Hillary in 2016, but to be fair he waited until April 2016 when it was pretty clear Bernie wasn't going to win.

He's also less anti-business than Sanders. In particular, when it comes to the loss of manufacturing jobs, he blames automation more than NAFTA.

April was before the Indiana primary. Writing something about Bernie 16 years ago doesn't cancel out the fact that he went against his state and county in endorsing terrible Hillary.

So you're cool with your boy Ellison sipping wine with David Brock, right?

 69 
 on: Today at 02:55:21 am 
Started by publicunofficial - Last post by AtorBoltox
To clarify, I'm not saying that I definitely won't endorse Edwards again. But my feelings about him have gone from "automatic endorsement" to "let's think about this very carefully".
This endorsement stuff has to be a joke at this point

 70 
 on: Today at 02:53:05 am 
Started by publicunofficial - Last post by Caripace Clavicle Moundshroud
Franken. Klobuchar's anti-Russian tour with McCain and Graham was reprehensible.

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