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 on: Today at 05:34:34 pm 
Started by dead0man - Last post by dead0man

It's very silly, but has lots of big and obscure words, so it will please some of you.

Nestorianism was mine.

 on: Today at 05:33:54 pm 
Started by VP windjammer - Last post by Senator Lumine
I wouldn't mind supporting the nominee, but I share TNF's concerns regarding wiki access among other things. Now, considering the concerns expressed by TNF and Yankee, do you plan to have a deputy as AG?

 on: Today at 05:33:29 pm 
Started by WorkingClassBro - Last post by shua
Couldn't "capitalism" or "market based" system mean any system exists where people generally are compelled to perform for each other based or some sort of offer acceptance and consideration?

This could all be based on asking whether or not someone is for "human rights" or "freedom".

A market based system is at least in theory based on mutual consent, but capitalism I would understand as involving the use and investment of capital as central to economic activity (though that definition would describe a great many things not usually thought of as capitalism).

What qualifies as "consent" and "capital". If Republicans got their way much of the consent would be through duress and if Democrats got their way much  consent would indirectly implied through the Democratic process

The key is mutual consent, as opposed to collective consent. If someone is commanded to buy or to sell something at a certain rate, that would not be mutual consent between buyer and seller and have no relation to a functional market. Decisions made out of duress on the other hand are not incompatible with a market, though they may be incompatible with a functional economy in other ways.

 on: Today at 05:33:14 pm 
Started by tmthforu94 - Last post by Miles
The good news for Pryor is that they undersampled blacks. Its a bit worrying to see him losing CD1, but they say Cotton's lead there is only "marginal."

Also, they weighed all four CDs equally. CD2 (Pryor's best) cast the most votes in 2010.

 on: Today at 05:31:54 pm 
Started by Emperor Scott - Last post by Lettuce Gay Bacon and Tomato
I hope you're only deluging the Pony part, because the other three shows deserve the to be on the list.

 on: Today at 05:28:57 pm 
Started by Cris - Last post by IceSpear

Either way it's splitting hairs. The popular vote was decided by <1% and the party was nearly split in half. Hardly an also ran like Evan Bayh, who didn't even make it to Iowa. But I do love the revisionist history myth that "Obama DEMOLISHED Hillary in 2008, and Sanders/Schweitzer can too!!!!!!"

 on: Today at 05:28:47 pm 
Started by Cris - Last post by tmthforu94
You can't just exclude certain states. Granted, Obama didn't campaign there, but the fact remains that more people voted for Hillary than Obama.

 on: Today at 05:28:18 pm 
Started by Beet - Last post by Beet

With a disease like ebola I don't think it's unethical to give people the opportunity, with informed consent, to take medications that have not yet passed all the regulatory hurdles. If it was you, wouldn't you want the chance? In March 2009, when a researcher in Germany pricked herself accidentally with a needle that contained ebola, the top experts in the field were consulted within a day and she was given an experimental treatment. Although it was never confirmed that she did indeed contract ebola, she survived fine. The chance of someone dying from the vaccine is very small compared to dying from ebola.

 on: Today at 05:28:10 pm 
Started by Senator Lumine - Last post by Senator Lumine
I'm sorry for Nix, but a faceless man was hired and once the high price I ask is satisfied... well, the faceless men don't seem to miss their targets. Tyrion Lannister, Daemon Blackfyre and Asha Greyjoy are open, next turn starts tonight and new or old players are welcome to join as one of those characters as time goes on. I've decided to accept the Vale declaration of independence, but I wish to be consulted first next time a player wishes to be independent. Finally, and to give you a measure of how much time has passed, we are already at the end of A Dance With Dragons in regards to time, which means Turn Six/AL 300 (2) is chronologically at the end of ADWD and the beginning of the Winds of Winter. Westeros will get more and more snow from now on, so be careful!

 on: Today at 05:27:47 pm 
Started by jimrtex - Last post by muon2
Here's version 2 of my draft plan. In addition to the population I have included the PVI of each district in square brackets, with positive values for D PVIs and negative numbers for R PVIs.

MI (3)
   Mackinac (MI) 3400K [-4.2]
   Huron (MI) 2620K [+3.6]
   St Clair (MI) 3864K [+10.6]

I have it:

Michigan 3300K
Eastern Michigan 2720
Detroit 3864

You may have displaced the population from Lenawee.

Alternative Names

The Great Lakes State
Great Lakes

Eastern Michigan



I would let Jackson and Hillsdale switch districts.  While this does drop the population for Eastern Michigan and make the border more irregular, I think that there may be a Jackson-Battle Creek-Kalamazoo linkage.


Michigan gained its second representative in 1860, and its 3rd in 1890.  Initially it barely held onto the 3rd, but with the development of auto industry easily maintained its 3rd, and gained a 4th in 1950.  It lost the 4th in 1990.

Michigan was the 7th largest state from 1920 to 1970, and has been 7th, 8th, or 9th, since 1880, passing Kentucky, Indiana, Missouri, and Massachusetts during the past 130 years, while falling behind California, Texas, and Florida.  But Michigan will likely fall to 10th in 2020 as Georgia and North Carolina surpass it.

Thanks for the catch. I'll update my PVIs as well.

Jackson is sometimes placed with SE MI and sometimes in a greater Lansing/Mid Michigan region, but I've never seen it thought of as part of an extended Battle Creek/Kzoo area. Hillsdale is less glued than Jackson, but seems more likely to stay with Jackson than not. Looking at Mid Michigan, it's clear that Gratiot and Isabella (with Central MI U) should shift to go with Lansing and the Tri-Cities.

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