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 on: Today at 08:15:23 pm 
Started by Mehmentum - Last post by ag
FEROG, as it has been said.

 on: Today at 08:14:59 pm 
Started by bronz4141 - Last post by bballrox4717
Gillibrand is NY's most popular politician. There's no way any Republican would come within 20 points behind her, even in a Republican wave.

 on: Today at 08:14:25 pm 
Started by RG Griff - Last post by Wolverine22
I was honestly surprised our idiot AG here in MI didn't try and go the nullification route. With him, it's been one right-wing crusade after another, and I just hoped we didn't go the Alabama route.

 on: Today at 08:14:24 pm 
Started by Matti McBurr - Last post by Matti McBurr

 on: Today at 08:14:19 pm 
Started by Senator Türkisblau - Last post by TNvolunteer
How many of these trolls will it take until Nym and Dave take this problem seriously? 

 on: Today at 08:13:39 pm 
Started by Pope Urban IX - Last post by Zioneer
Thanks, Zioneer. Another question- what is it with Mormons and middle initials?

L.D. Smith answered that, but specifically for leaders, we've had a lot of apostles with similar or the same names, so we use initials to tell them apart. For example, our first prophet was named Joseph Smith (whose own father was also named Joseph Smith), who is identified various as simply Joseph Smith, The Prophet, Joseph Smith Junior, or Brother Joseph (in contemporary accounts). Joseph Smith had a son named Joseph Smith (who became leader of the Reorganized LDS, now known as the Community of Christ), and a nephew who was also named Joseph Smith, who became sixth prophet-president of the Church.

The first Joseph's son was known as Joseph Smith III, while his nephew had the middle name of Fielding, so was known as Joseph F. Smith. Joseph F. Smith also had a son named Joseph Fielding Smith, who became tenth prophet-president, and thus had his full name used to not confuse him with the other two. Even more confusing, the eighth prophet was George Albert Smith, who was himself son of an apostle with the same name (served as an apostle at the same time, in fact), and was cousin to all of the Josephs. We've had a lot of Smiths, basically.

Similarly, the twelfth prophet was Ezra Taft Benson, who was great-grandson of an apostle of the same name.

So we've needed the middle initials to differentiate all of these related prophets and apostles, and now that we've started, we just naturally do it for even apostles unrelated to any of the other apostles (like Uchtdorf, who is completely unrelated to all of the rest).

 on: Today at 08:13:35 pm 
Started by Sawx, King in the North - Last post by oakvale
For whatever it's worth, you have my full and unconditional support.

Sawx has been a loyal friend, a great ally, and a fantastic deputy to me these last eight months. While the time's come for me to move on from this great Party, you'll be in good hands with Sawx at the helm.

 on: Today at 08:13:16 pm 
Started by ElectionsGuy - Last post by Murica!
Yes(I/O), though I'd rather marriage be abolished.

You think people who want to get married shouldn't be able to?...  If you want to be a really neat rebel or you just never find anyone to marry and want to be a loner, just be one; leave everyone else alone.

Damn it Crabcake, I can't come up with a better response than you!

 on: Today at 08:12:32 pm 
Started by Matti McBurr - Last post by Matti McBurr

 on: Today at 08:10:28 pm 
Started by NeverAgain - Last post by Matti McBurr
x Matti

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