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 on: Today at 04:24:42 am 
Started by Kingpoleon - Last post by President Johnson
Democratic: Stuart Symington.

 on: Today at 04:22:12 am 
Started by Alabama_Indy10 - Last post by President Johnson
Barack Obama. The best president since LBJ.

Obama came into office amidst the greatest recession in decades, saved the economy, passed a landmark health-care bill and modernized the country. He was also a decent president without a scandal.

The only things Clinton did better is on foreign and fiscal policy. But the latter were different circumstances and different times.

 on: Today at 04:17:49 am 
Started by The Arizonan - Last post by Robespierre, The Musical
As TiK said above, the Bible was written by various people at various times. Still, it's thousands years old and aside of fruitcakes no one takes these verses literally anymore.

Personally I call the Old Testament the greatest crime/gore book of all times.

 on: Today at 04:17:26 am 
Started by The Mikado - Last post by President Johnson
We are through 12.5% of Trump's Administration as of today.

I just thought you all should be aware.

LOL, this was exactly my thought yesterday as well. I'm always making such calculations...

But only 6.25% of he gets reelected and serves out his second term. This tought is terrible.

 on: Today at 04:04:22 am 
Started by mathstatman - Last post by President Johnson
The race is lean at Lean Democratic. Whitmer is probably the best candidate so far with the greatest chances for an individual. But it's still early.

 on: Today at 03:53:10 am 
Started by heatcharger - Last post by Old School Republican
The only Washington State poster I don't like (I'm sure he'd see this as a badge of honor). HP.

 on: Today at 03:49:10 am 
Started by Castro - Last post by GoTfan
The Sun has just published nude photos of Whittaker with an anti-female Doctor editorial. This is getting [inks]ing ridiculous.

As i thought. This is legitimate sexism and it's f***ing disgusting.

Personally, I don't care if the Doctor's male or female; it's already been established as canon that Time Lords can regenerate into either male or female forms. As long as Jodie does a good job with the role (and judging from her resume, she will), then I'm fine with it.

 on: Today at 03:46:34 am 
Started by YL - Last post by ⚑ Comrade Corbyn for PM ⚑
10 pages devoted to that...

 on: Today at 03:46:20 am 
Started by LouisvilleThunder - Last post by President Johnson
I think a guy like Bullock. But I may be biased because he's my favorite. But he could win the Rust Belt back and some states like Florida and North Carolina as well. He would carry the other Democratic states anyway.

 on: Today at 03:30:58 am 
Started by The Arizonan - Last post by camembert and shame
I was doing some research recently and came across this passage:

13 If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

The Bible was written by many different people at various points, all a very long time ago. They existed, lived within a community that had culture and traditions, beliefs, rituals. They ate food and told jokes, had squabbles, drank too much sometimes, slept with each other. They wrote with their context. There are things going on outside of the pages. The above passage is useful, to me, to show that taking most of the Bible literally is not helpful for personal growth or a healthy tightly knit community.

That doesn't excuse anything but it's important to keep in mind that the overall point is not the minute contents of the book itself, but the bigger picture and story its telling. It is not hard to find objectively bizarre horrifying things going on in the Bible.. but these things are not the purpose of Christianity, or its God. The Bible is a man made product. See in its weirdness a mirror of your own issues. There are good things hidden away in there, too.. very good things. Don't throw out the proverbial baby.

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