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Question: How long can Jeb survive with under-10% polling and poor debate performances?
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until October
 
#2
until November
 
#3
until December
 
#4
until January
 
#5
not until the primaries
 
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Author Topic: How long can Jeb survive with under-10% polling and poor debate performances?  (Read 2866 times)
dudeabides
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« on: September 15, 2015, 09:18:58 AM »

Fiorina and Kasich rise was great.  It take away Bush's supporters.  It is just too many fishes in that small pond.  I don't think Bush can even rise up to be #2 anymore unless a few of these people drop out (Kasich, Rubio, Fiorina).

I like Kasich a lot.  I hope he placed second or win New Hampshire.  That will like a nail in the coffin of Bush.  Kasich of course is a much easier opponent for Trump than Bush.

I see many people ranked Rubio as #1 on a lot of power ranking.  I think Rubio is done for the moment Trump shifted the conversation to immigration.

John Kasich was over rated in that first debate, he was especially weak on defending the Obamacare medicaid expansion and how he'd appeal to ordinary people. He kept obsessing over his time in Washington D.C. as the other senators know Americans don't want a Washington insider.

The answer to the question is, Governor Bush will rise because eventually, people will recognize we need a proven leader, not a self-promoter.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 03:42:35 PM »

Dudeabides and this author are of the many few hold-outs for Jeb Bush, the reason is, we recognise a thoroughbred when we see it.
Let's look at the line - up.
Bush, brand-name recognition,  a proven track record. Florida.
Carson, too nice and a antidote to Trump.
Christie, has been marginalized by Bridgegate, his manner is too loud and grating.
Fiorina, shrewd and a savvy political operator and a healthy antidote to Hillary fatigue,  not to be underestimated.  Also she's a woman.
Graham, sadly not going anywhere.
Huckabee, too holier than thou.
Jindal,  had possibilities.
Kasich, to much of an insider and as Dudeabides alluded in his/her submission,  a self promoter.
Perry, dropped out.
Rubio, Young, energetic and has a good manner.
Santorum,  yesterday's news.
Trump, the less said about him, the better, he's a motor mouth on energizer batteries....going on & on.
Walker, had potential,  still might,  but wouldn't bet the farm on such a scenario.
My money is still on Jeb & I'm keeping the faith😊



He's one of the only adults in the room, amen.


Dudeabides and this author are of the many few hold-outs for Jeb Bush, the reason is, we recognise a thoroughbred when we see it.
Let's look at the line - up.
Bush, brand-name recognition,  a proven track record. Florida.
[…]

you missed a couple letters there, let me fix it for you:

Dudeabides and this author are of the many few hold-outs for Jeb Bush, the reason is, we recognise a thoroughbred when we see it.
Let's look at the line - up.
Bush, brand-name recognition,  a proven train wreck record. Florida.
[…]

much better

The Bush record:
- Reduced taxes by $19 billion, Florida was a leader in economic growth
- Increased state reserves by $8 billion
- One of two states to go to an AAA bond rating between 1999-2007
- Reduced the size of the state workforce by 10%, privatized state services
- Enacted medical liability reform
- Enacted medicaid reform with more private options, saving taxpayer dollars
- Signed into law "Stand Your Ground" and tougher sentencing against those who committed violent crimes
- Enacted Florida's state ban on partial-birth abortion, stood up for the life of Terri Schiavo
- Enacted the nation's first statewide school voucher program and ended social promotion in third grade, the achievement gap was narrowed and reading scores improved
- Enacted worker's compensation reform
- Increased the property tax exemption for disabled veterans from $500 to $5,000
- Tripled the number of veteran's hospitals in Florida
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dudeabides
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 04:24:46 PM »

Dudeabides and this author are of the many few hold-outs for Jeb Bush, the reason is, we recognise a thoroughbred when we see it.
Let's look at the line - up.
Bush, brand-name recognition,  a proven track record. Florida.
[…]

you missed a couple letters there, let me fix it for you:

Dudeabides and this author are of the many few hold-outs for Jeb Bush, the reason is, we recognise a thoroughbred when we see it.
Let's look at the line - up.
Bush, brand-name recognition,  a proven train wreck record. Florida.
[…]

much better

The Bush record:
- Reduced taxes by $19 billion, Florida was a leader in economic growth
- Increased state reserves by $8 billion
- One of two states to go to an AAA bond rating between 1999-2007
- Reduced the size of the state workforce by 10%, privatized state services
- Enacted medical liability reform
- Enacted medicaid reform with more private options, saving taxpayer dollars
- Signed into law "Stand Your Ground" and tougher sentencing against those who committed violent crimes
- Enacted Florida's state ban on partial-birth abortion, stood up for the life of Terri Schiavo
- Enacted the nation's first statewide school voucher program and ended social promotion in third grade, the achievement gap was narrowed and reading scores improved
- Enacted worker's compensation reform
- Increased the property tax exemption for disabled veterans from $500 to $5,000
- Tripled the number of veteran's hospitals in Florida

exactly. thank you for providing so many good examples. Smiley

So you believe poor kids deserve rotten schools, Terri Schiavo's cheating husband was moral, people shouldn't get jobs, and the government spends money better than the people. Okay.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 11:02:53 AM »

, he was especially weak on defending the Obamacare medicaid expansion and how he'd appeal to ordinary people. He kept obsessing over his time in Washington D.C. as the other senators know Americans don't want a Washington insider.

The answer to the question is, Governor Bush will rise because eventually, people will recognize we need a proven leader, not a self-promoter.

Not really, I think medicaid is one of the programs that people support- I want people in poverty to get health coverage. I don't care if it's big government-republicans are fine with big government when it's giving aid to Israel, when it overruled the state of Florida in 2000 or when it's opposing marijuana legislation.

How he'd appeal to ordinary people? The son of working class immigrants from Pennsylvania against the silver spoon Bush Family. P 

I didn't say I am opposed to the concept of medicaid, I was opposed to the Obamacare expansion because we have $18 trillion in debt and it is a band-aid on the underlying problems with our health care system - too much litigation, regulation, and government-control. Governor Kasich has not been able to defend the program using logic, so he moved to emotion, typical of the liberals.

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