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dudeabides
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« on: November 05, 2015, 02:40:45 PM »
« edited: November 05, 2015, 02:42:35 PM by dudeabides »

Bush assumed that most Republicans would ignore the extremists on illegal immigration, would not obsess over Common Core like the old tea partiers with no kids in public schools, would want someone who could win a general election, and would be okay nominating a family who has given so much to public service to challenge someone of another "dynasty" who is a political hack and total opportunist.

Luckily, many Republicans are starting to see the light regarding Trump, but Marco Rubio is the one who is benefiting, not Bush. The Republicans I know, the ones who are well educated on politics, didn't like Trump from the start, but most have supported Rubio or Kasich, not Bush.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 02:51:57 PM »

I want to know the thought process of someone who wants to win the GOP nomination and presidency who:

1. Calls illegal immigration an "act of love"
2. Supports common core
3. Says he is willing to lose the primary to win the general (this never made sense)
4. Has the last name Bush

I am serious I want to know the logic that goes in one's mind leads one to believe they can win based on the above.

I suspect that he was thinking something such as, "What a bunch of retarded, useless clowns. I can win the nomination easily!" He was half-right, but failed to realize how much the party's vocal base had shifted in the directions of "hate" and "stupid".

because "hate" is when you think illegal immigration is ILLEGAL versus an act of love.

I am not a believer that we should reward illegal behavior. But in many cases, perhaps in most, those who come here illegally do so as an act of love to ensure their children have better lives than they have. Bush was not advocating for a specific policy based on the fact that in his view, which is also my view, people who come here illegally do so out of an act of love. Yet the tea party crazies, the people who don't read, believed he was advocating for amnesty. I support a pathway to legal status because we need to balance out humanitarian interests, the rule of law, and the fiscal realities of our time. Deporting people to live amongst gangs and spending $140 billion doing so is not right, though neither is giving automatic forgiveness to people who break our laws. The pathway to legal status is the middle road here.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 02:57:10 PM »

I want to know the thought process of someone who wants to win the GOP nomination and presidency who:

1. Calls illegal immigration an "act of love"
2. Supports common core
3. Says he is willing to lose the primary to win the general (this never made sense)
4. Has the last name Bush

I am serious I want to know the logic that goes in one's mind leads one to believe they can win based on the above.

I suspect that he was thinking something such as, "What a bunch of retarded, useless clowns. I can win the nomination easily!" He was half-right, but failed to realize how much the party's vocal base had shifted in the directions of "hate" and "stupid".

because "hate" is when you think illegal immigration is ILLEGAL versus an act of love.

I am not a believer that we should reward illegal behavior. But in many cases, perhaps in most, those who come here illegally do so as an act of love to ensure their children have better lives than they have. Bush was not advocating for a specific policy based on the fact that in his view, which is also my view, people who come here illegally do so out of an act of love. Yet the tea party crazies, the people who don't read, believed he was advocating for amnesty. I support a pathway to legal status because we need to balance out humanitarian interests, the rule of law, and the fiscal realities of our time. Deporting people to live amongst gangs and spending $140 billion doing so is not right, though neither is giving automatic forgiveness to people who break our laws. The pathway to legal status is the middle road here.

They bring their gangs here with them. They already live amongst them.

Some do, and they should be jailed or deported. But I'm talking about the folks who bring their families here and work on farms or landscaping, those are the ones who do so because of their love for their family.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 04:44:20 PM »

1. Calls illegal immigration an "act of love"

I don't know... probably the same thing his brother was thinking that won him the White House.  Check out the percentage of the Hispanic vote McCain and Romney picked up compared to W Bush.


Maybe he actually has self respect and doesn't want to be a flip flopper.  Also the Republican big business establishment is appalled with the product coming out of schools.  Remember common core was designed by governors in conjuction with the private sector.  It wasn't something cooked up in Washington.  Bush is just trying to be consistent.  Bush and his kind asked for common core.  They designed it.   They championed it.  It's actually the Republicans who are running away from it now who should be asked what they are thinking.

3. Says he is willing to lose the primary to win the general (this never made sense)

You think Etch-a-Sketch is a better strategy?  How did that work out?

Big business wants a lot of things that are bad for the country

What business wants:

1. Tax cuts - Look at the 1920s and 1980s, tax cuts stimulate economic growth!
2. Less regulations - Reagan and Clinton deregulated, the economy grew
3. Free trade - proven to create high paying jobs
4. Bi-partisian immigration reform - good for the economy
5. Repeal Obamacare

Yeah real "bad" for the country.
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