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WillipsBrighton
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« on: July 21, 2015, 04:25:39 PM »

Someone running for the Democratic party's nomination should be more aware of the various shibboleths of the activist left.

A Republican could respond to activists with "I agree with you. All lives matter." and help himself in the General Election, but that's not a valid way to win a democratic primary.

Agreed. The content of what he said wasn't dumb but the fact that he said it was dumb.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 05:38:54 AM »

Jesse Ventura endorsed Gary Johnson in 2012 and now he's endorsing Bernie Sanders in 2016.

Let's not pretend he abides by ideological logic.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2015, 06:31:36 AM »

Jesse Ventura endorsed Gary Johnson in 2012 and now he's endorsing Bernie Sanders in 2016.

Let's not pretend he abides by ideological logic.

He just goes wherever the anti-establishment winds of the moment are. He's also a 9-11 truther of course.

He had to make a real choice between Sanders and Trump, though.

You don't realize just how true this is. When Trump ran for the Reform Party nomination in 2000, he ran with the backing of the Ventura faction of the party. Lots of people even assumed he was a placeholder.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2015, 02:31:38 AM »

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He then walked back and apologized pathetically. Is this what liberal activists have become. Saying 'all lives matter' is now racially insensitive?

yes, because it is literally always used to derail conversations about anti-black violence.

when martin o'malley, in response to black people saying that the police shouldn't be murdering black people, asks "well maybe but also what about us white people," despite the fact that white people are orders of magnitude less likely to be murdered by police, it's at best terrifyingly out of touch.

it's the equivalent of someone asking you to help because their house is on fire, and you respond "house fires are bad, but also the fact that i stubbed my toe is bad"

Martin O'Malley clearly didn't mean it that way. We all know black people are disproportionately subject to police shootings, that should certainly be part of the conversation.  I don't see how during discussing it, saying that all lives matter, not just black lives, is insensitive.

Also, police killing blacks unjustifiably is a house on fire, while police killing whites unjustifiably is stubbing a toe? Its about quantitative difference here, not qualitative. The fact that the left has taken a serious issue (police brutality) and made it about identity politics and race more than the brutality itself is what is turning people like me away from your ideology even further.

A more apt comparison would be your house is on fire, and when you call for help you are told "Sir, we can't just worry about your house, we have to save ALL the houses" when yours is the only one burning.

Jesus, your willful blindness. Clearly some white people's "houses are on fire" too. The cops are overly aggressive with EVERYONE. Yes, it's worse in the Black community but it's bad with everyone. I don't know why people on the left are so terrified to acknowledge this. It actually helps the case for police overhaul.
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