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Junior Chimp
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« on: April 28, 2008, 11:51:13 AM »

I don't think the IOC care about that type of lesson.

Thankfully, the list of countries with human rights records like China which are seriously capable of hosting the Olympics is fairly limited.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 12:52:09 PM »

I don't think the IOC care about that type of lesson.

Thankfully, the list of countries with human rights records like China which are seriously capable of hosting the Olympics is fairly limited.

How countries are 'like' China though? And how many can hold the Olympics?

Alot of these protests seem to be related to the growth in Western Buddhist converts and a general Orientalism towards all things Tibetan. How many people were chanting 'Free Turkistan' for example. So what this has to really do with human rights is debatable.

I think the protests have been too large to simply attribute them to the points you do. I also think that, on the whole, the protesters are doing so because of a genuine sense that the Chinese government are engaging in human rights abuses (in Tibet or elsewhere). Just because Tibet may be the focus of the protests doesn't mean that their complaints aren't genuine or that they aren't concerned about other human rights issues.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 12:11:22 PM »

@Jas: I should also have mentioned the "rent a protest" group. However I think you would recognize that in the region there is a tendency to overly exoticize the people and their culture.

Probably true.

How much do people know about the Pre-1949 Tibet really?

Indeed, I suspect they don't really know anything about it. (I also know very little about it.)

That isn't to say that the protestors aren't right,

Indeed.


Just like the opposition. (And most people making any political point, on any subject, ever. Wink)
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 01:30:14 PM »

1) No-one else here will know what I'm talking about, but did you see the Cathal O Searchaigh documentary and all the fuss over it? That happened across the border in Tibet. I rest my case.

Fair point. (I didn't see the documentary but obviously couldn't avoid the ensuing media hubbub.)

2) Neither do I; except only to note that it was somewhat of an unpleasant theocracy (which is why Mao invaded it in first case; it certainly wasn't Economics. China has no benefited from owning Tibet.)

3) They are. But I wonder what many of them are for. But I said that about Iraq aswell.

4) I concur.

Btw it's hard to find a country - especially if you dig hard enough - which hasn't abused human rights to a degree in the past quarter century even. (No protests about Greek Occupation of Southern Cyprus, The treatment of Aborigines, the myraid things the US did under Clinton oohhh.. say, the Haiti Intervention, The Gwanghou massarce though I think South Korea had a different government then but not when awarded the games... and so on.)

True. But what sets China apart is the scale of the abuses; the motivations for the abuses; and the fact that China's influence in the rest of the world (which clearly is less than positive, see Darfur, Burma...) is so significant and continuing to grow.
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