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« on: September 26, 2004, 05:15:14 AM »

You have not shown me anywhere in the Constitution where abortion is a right.

The right recognized is free exerise of choice. Not specifically the choice to abort or not, but it isn't prohibited either. Thus as a choice it is covered.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2004, 03:14:57 AM »

You have not shown me anywhere in the Constitution where abortion is a right.

The right recognized is free exerise of choice. Not specifically the choice to abort or not, but it isn't prohibited either. Thus as a choice it is covered.

Liberty = freedom = choice. So again, I guess I can put a knife in someone's back because of the 14th amendment?

But, your choices arn't allowed to purposly deny other humans of their choices. Not dying is a choice that people make.
I expect you to counter with something to the effect of, "but a fetus chooses to live too..." To which I respond, "this is the real heart of the matter. And it is many people's opinion that a foetus doesn't have the same rights as a developed human (just as children don't have as many rights as adults, i.e., more developed humans)"

From a constitutional p.o.v., a foetus is not expressly defined as or protected as a human. From a Biblical p.o.v., the punishment for killing a foetus is distinctivly lower than the punishment for killing a human or a slave (not considered human by Biblical standards). From a feminist p.o.v., the foetus is a part of the expecting mother's body until birth and it is her choice what to do with her body. From my (current) p.o.v., the foetus is a part of the expecting mother's and father's bodies (and to a lesser extent the expecting grandparents, great grandparents, and so on) and thus it is their choice what to do with their bodies. [A bodypart doesn't have to be "attached" (however that can be defined) to be a part of a person's body]


John Dibble, not everyone knows that "!=" means "not equals." Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2004, 12:59:13 AM »

I think we all agree that in a perfect world nobody would feel the need or desire to have an abortion, but it isn't a perfect world so the issue will continue to be debated, probably forever as we will not have a concrete answer to most of the questions.

Which is exactly why we need publicly paid philosophers! Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2004, 01:01:32 AM »

John Dibble, not everyone knows that "!=" means "not equals." Smiley

Yeah, I forgot about that. I'm a Computer Science major so I sometimes forget that not everyone knows basic code.
I took C++ 2 years ago, I always want to use "!=" when I'm  online. Then I took Logic and got used to "~".
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