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Sam Spade
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« on: January 15, 2005, 02:42:31 AM »

So what does NAFTA do if it's not free trade?

As I said, it is really a series of Trade restrictions and regulations.  It isn't free trade at all.

This is clearly not true. Tariffs between Atlasia and Canada and Mexico have practically disappeared now because of NAFTA and the benefits have been huge for everybody. I want add that Texas has profited enormously from NAFTA creating hundreds of thousands of jobs for Atlasians as well as other states in the south, so our Senators need to listen, at least for once.

I tried to point this out earlier, but no one was listening.  Sad

I'm all for trying to make the environmental regulations stronger, but scrapping of the agreements to me is a terrible idea for the reasons you listed above, some of which I have seen personally in real life.
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2005, 02:47:00 AM »

The question that must be asked about NAFTA is a simple one; who's benifited from it?

Have the hardworking folks of my district benifited? The miles of rusting steelworks, ruined and burned out factories and dying coal towns in my district speak for themselves.
Have ordinary Mexicans benifited? No... of course not. Mexico still has an appalling poverty problem, wages are low, labor laws are lax, working conditions are poor and it is becoming economically dependent on Atlasia to a worrying extent.
So who has benifited? I speak for my constituents when I say the answer is obvious... Yet again the only people to benifit in a meaningful way are out of touch Corperate Fat Cat's. Why should our trade policy be dependent on the whims of a tiny minority, most of which belong behind bars anyway?

Typical socialist blame-mongering. 

Many lower, middle class families in the South and elsewhere have benefitted heavily from NAFTA in their business lives as many new jobs have been created from the increased trade of goods and services between the US, Mexico and Canada. 

It is those families, many of whom I know personally, who will devastated by the Senate's lack of conscience here.

Corporate fat-cats have nothing to do with this at all.
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2005, 03:00:25 AM »

Well, I've done more research still, and stuff like this, while from an openly conservative site, has raised doubts in me regarding the merits of revoking NAFTA at this point in time.  While I still don't really know for sure, I tend to like to keep the status quo unless I'm reasonably sure that what we're doing is a good idea.  I also agree with the qualms that others have had that a complete withdrawal from NAFTA would probably not go over well with Mexico and Canada, even if this is a good idea.

Because of this, I'd like to change my vote to "nay".

I realize that this puts me square in the John Kerry seat, but, eh, what can I say?

Thanks for the excellent decision, Gabu.
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