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ElectionsGuy
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« on: July 26, 2015, 03:31:47 PM »

34 Senators and 145 Representatives are need for approval. It'll be an all Dem vote but it'll pretty easily be approved.
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2015, 09:20:29 PM »

Proof that the hawkish Democrat is alive and well.

Yeah, all these Safe district Democrats coming out opposing it just shows that the establishment and common wisdom position in Washington on foreign policy is to favor "being tough" over diplomacy. There would probably be far more Democrats coming out against it if it was a Republican deal.
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2015, 02:37:21 PM »

Flake is my new favorite Republican Senator.

I was thinking the same thing, though there's still a good chance he's opposed.
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2015, 04:40:10 PM »


Wow, so if he wouldn't have lost that primary he would be the only Republican.
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 05:16:02 AM »


I expect Collins to be against, but those three in the house are interesting cases. At this point, they're probably trying to weigh their more libertarian beliefs (which would lean to support attempt at diplomacy, even if its flawed) with the backlash from the establishment and Israel lobby if they come out for it. And that means strong primary challenges for all of them as well.
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2015, 11:45:27 AM »


I expect Collins to be against, but those three in the house are interesting cases. At this point, they're probably trying to weigh their more libertarian beliefs (which would lean to support attempt at diplomacy, even if its flawed) with the backlash from the establishment and Israel lobby if they come out for it. And that means strong primary challenges for all of them as well.

All three of them, especially Amash and Massie are the heirs to the Ron Paul throne in the house. It makes sense that they would be the only real holdouts here although I doubt all of them end up siding with the president here.

I think all of them are actually leaning against it. Amash retweeted an AP report about Iran being able to inspect its own sites.
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2015, 06:01:57 AM »


LOL, another libertarian hero who proves to be a bitch of the neo-cons.

He still is a 'libertarian hero' or whatever and his decision change that. Maybe if you read his reasoning you wouldn't be so quick to smear.
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2015, 08:02:26 PM »

Democrats Who Voted For Disapproval
Brad Ashford (NE-2)
Brendan F. Boyle (PA-13)
Tony Cárdenas (CA-29)
Ted Deutch (FL-21)
Elliot Engel (NY-16)
Lois Frankel (FL-22)
Gwen Graham (FL-2)
Gene Green (TX-29)
Alcee Hastings (FL-20)
Steve Israel (NY-3)
Ted Lieu (CA-33)
Dan Lipinski (IL-3)
Nita Lowey (NY-17)
Carolyn Maloney (NY-12)
Grace Meng (NY-6)
Grace Napolitano  (CA-32)
Donald Norcross (NJ-1)
Collin Peterson (MN-7)
Kathleen Rice (NY-4)
David Scott (GA-13)
Brad Sherman (CA-30)
Kyrsten Sinema (AZ-9)
Albio Sires (NJ-8)
Juan Vargas (CA-51)
Filemon Vela (TX-34)
Hopefully all of them get solid primary challenges. With Lipinski, Peterson, Vela, Boyle, Norcross, Green, Sinema and Ashford, a generic Republican would be no worse.
Ashford, Peterson, and Graham have to vote this way to get through the GE. The NY guys are voting w/ their district (Jews hate the deal) you know, what congressmen are actually supposed to do. Beyond that you may have a point.

No, they don't.
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ElectionsGuy
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E: 7.10, S: -7.65

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2015, 01:52:41 PM »

Only leftists, and Libertarian Republicans truly believe Israel having access to nuclear weapons is much more dangerous then Iran having access to them.

Politicus' comments represent what I think about this perfectly.

I don't think anyone believes that, I think a better proposition would be only leftists and libertarians think Israel having a nuclear weapon is as dangerous or dangerous at all compared to Iran having one.
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ElectionsGuy
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E: 7.10, S: -7.65

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2015, 12:05:49 AM »


When people like this openly call themselves "patriots" it makes me lose faith in the word. Saddening.
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