Did Obama win Christians in Utah?

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I think he might've actually.

Keep in mind even in Utah the Hispanics are mostly Catholic.

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Mormon baptism are not considered valid! Christian denominations accept other denominations' baptism as valid if you wish to convert if they were done in accordance with their standards. If I wanted to become a Catholic, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Methodist or some other type of Lutheran I could without being rebaptized because I already have been. And if I get baptized as an adult (which I probably will, but my church does baptisms only once a year, and it's in August), I could join any other church that does adult baptism without being rebaptized again as well. My church doesn't even consider it a big deal I haven't been baptized as an adult or insist on it happening again, I could still take a role or position in it. I'd only have to be rebaptized in order to be ordained as an associate pastor.

However Mormon baptism are NOT accepted. The other denominations listed above require people baptized as Mormons to be rebaptized to convert. The reverse is also true. Mormons don't baptize babies, but if I got baptized in my church as an adult and wanted to convert to Mormonism (let's assume I get a head injury or something), I would have to be rebaptized. If Mormons are Christian, why is this an issue?

I think BRTD may have been a good Jesuit or maybe an O.P. in Spain back in the day.

I really can't imagine myself as a Catholic. Simply can't.

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Mormons also reject the Trinity and their churches don't have crosses on them.

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I think BRTD may have been a good Jesuit or maybe an O.P. in Spain back in the day.

I really can't imagine myself as a Catholic. Simply can't.

Well that was the accepted, authentic form in W. Christendom for a thousand years. You have a rather keen eye for heresy and false churches. You likely could have moved up the ranks, Cardinal.

That's actually rather funny because Catholicism is basically the polar opposite from my tradition of Christianity on most things, (role of hierarchy, emphasis on ritual, style of worship, etc.) And actually I am the "heretic" today, you know my brand of hipster Christianity isn't too popular with the established churches or evangelical leaders.

Mormon baptism are not considered valid! Christian denominations accept other denominations' baptism as valid if you wish to convert if they were done in accordance with their standards. If I wanted to become a Catholic, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Methodist or some other type of Lutheran I could without being rebaptized because I already have been. And if I get baptized as an adult (which I probably will, but my church does baptisms only once a year, and it's in August), I could join any other church that does adult baptism without being rebaptized again as well. My church doesn't even consider it a big deal I haven't been baptized as an adult or insist on it happening again, I could still take a role or position in it.

However Mormon baptism are NOT accepted. The other denominations listed above require people baptized as Mormons to be rebaptized to convert. The reverse is also true. Mormons don't baptize babies, but if I got baptized in my church as an adult and wanted to convert to Mormonism (let's assume I get a head injury or something), I would have to be rebaptized. If Mormons are Christian, why is this an issue?

What about Greek and Russian Orthodox "Christians" and Unitarians (the John Adams kind)?

Orthodox baptisms are accepted as valid in other churches that baptize infants and vice-versa. Unitarians aren't Christian either and don't require baptism. I think some Unitarian churches do if the parents request it but most Christian denominations don't consider those valid because they don't baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (but in the name of the Creator or something like that.)

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The CNN exit poll doesn't have numbers for the Christian groups because they are too small, but it does McCain winning 78% of Mormons with 19% for Obama. And that's 75% of voters.

"Other" and "None" make up 11%. They were about 75% Obama nationwide.

So that means that 14% of voters were Christian. 14.25% of voters were Mormons for Obama, and "other" and "none" were probably around 8.25% for Obama. Obama got 34.22% in the state, and got 22.5% from those two groups based on these numbers. That actually means he would've had to have received the vast majority of those voters. Now he probably did a little worse amongst "Other" and "None" than nationally but it's hard to crunch the numbers and not see him winning Christians.

(The only odd thing I see is the numbers are 2% Protestant, 4% Catholic and 8% "Other Christian. I assume that mostly consists of either black churches [obviously not a ton of those in Utah.] or non-denominationals who refuse to associate as Protestant, but it seems weird that these would make up the majority of Christians in Utah.)

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The Book of Mormon also contradicts the Bible, for example take the bit about Jesus and Satan being brothers. This contradicts a lot about Jesus being the only Son of God, for example see this oft-quoted verse:

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Then the bit about how God was once a man on another planet and therefore did not create the entire universe...

For a more borderline case you might want to ask if Unity is Christian, I'd say they are but I'm sure jmfcst wouldn't.